The Syndicate

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:39 pm So why would she hint at it here?

Because it was a genuine thought. She genuinely did intend to remind Caitlin the game started, for completely innocuous reasons. That thought slipped out because it was an honest thought with no malicious intent. It's no different from saying "alright guys I'm going out for dinner, see you all later" in her mind. Scum say things like that all the time, it's just a part of normal posting/interaction. The slip was that she didn't realize the thought wouldn't materialize if she was town, and even if it did, she would react to me calling it out far less weirdly.

For example I think that town Abigail who actually didn't know it was a rule would just say "oh my bad I didn't know it was a rule" instead of saying my post is stupid and not a big deal. It's a very defensive reaction.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:36 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:33 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:14 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:42 am Which as far as I'm aware breaches zero rules and is a polite reminder

It breaches rules because it could influence the game, eg. if Caitlin is a mafia member planning on slanking for the first part of the game and then going "hey guys sorry I didn't realize the game started ", which is a legitimate wolf strategy, then you privately telling her that the game has started would influence that strategy.

I think you know this given your long term experience with forum mafia and lack of infractions for OGI (ie. you're not robyn), ergo I think you knew from the start that reminding Caitlin the game had started was disallowed by the rules, unless you were both mafia. Ergo I think that you are mafia and slipped by not realizing that your (honest) plan to remind Caitlin the game started was something that only a mafia would think of and not a town.

I legitimately think everything here you said is stupid that it's not that big a deal and that if this is truly a big deal I should be banned on multiple sites cause I've reminded friends on numerous occasions

Oops

^ caught for the wrong reasons scum

This push is scummy from you.


Do you really belueve scum wouldnt reming each other in scum chat instead of here?

My push is based on the notion that they are reminding each other in scum chat.

I find it suspicious that Abigail would say "oh it isn't a big deal you're so dramatic" when I explicitly and clearly laid out why it's a big deal/could influence a game in a significant way, without at least referencing or addressing the explanation I gave.

I think the "it isn't a big deal line" represents an attempt to get me off her back or minimize my read instead of a genuine belief that it's ok.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:27 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:23 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.

I feel attacked

I don't think Sig meant it as an attack to you and you do also consider that town cored ppl may be town anyway

The concept of how I play is that I shouldn't reconsider until later though so I am ostensibly exactly what he said here

I guess

I was just trying to bring up that you're better than you and others that see you as such think

I think Abigail has a great deal of self awareness and accurately assesses her skill level.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:14 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:42 am Which as far as I'm aware breaches zero rules and is a polite reminder

It breaches rules because it could influence the game, eg. if Caitlin is a mafia member planning on slanking for the first part of the game and then going "hey guys sorry I didn't realize the game started ", which is a legitimate wolf strategy, then you privately telling her that the game has started would influence that strategy.

I think you know this given your long term experience with forum mafia and lack of infractions for OGI (ie. you're not robyn), ergo I think you knew from the start that reminding Caitlin the game had started was disallowed by the rules, unless you were both mafia. Ergo I think that you are mafia and slipped by not realizing that your (honest) plan to remind Caitlin the game started was something that only a mafia would think of and not a town.

I legitimately think everything here you said is stupid that it's not that big a deal and that if this is truly a big deal I should be banned on multiple sites cause I've reminded friends on numerous occasions

Oops

^ caught for the wrong reasons scum

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:16 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:07 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:38 pm I'm wary of Caitlin going to bat for me and betting that I'm town off of ??? reasons. Feels a bit pockety, but I'm waiting for her explanation on what her reasoning was.

Oh my how could a townie possibly townread you!

More often than not, it comes from wolves in my experience. Town always thinks I'm scummy, but wolves love to take the opposite stance and defend me because they know they can get me mislunched without dirtying their hands. I know that's not the case for everyone, but that's how it usually goes for me.

"Town always thinks I'm scummy"
"It's slimy that Alison is trying to push on me"

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.

My knee jerk reaction is that it's against his town meta, which is the opposite (extreme paranoia and blind tunnelling of people he suspects). But I think he might actually be more likely to make a switch like that as town instead of mafia. That is, I feel like the big reversal into being overly-trusting of people or overly-willing to clear them is more likely to be motivated by "hey the blind paranoia thing didn't work the last few games, maybe I should try something new" instead of "surely this will fool everyone into thinking I am town".

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:42 am Which as far as I'm aware breaches zero rules and is a polite reminder

It breaches rules because it could influence the game, eg. if Caitlin is a mafia member planning on slanking for the first part of the game and then going "hey guys sorry I didn't realize the game started ", which is a legitimate wolf strategy, then you privately telling her that the game has started would influence that strategy.

I think you know this given your long term experience with forum mafia and lack of infractions for OGI (ie. you're not robyn), ergo I think you knew from the start that reminding Caitlin the game had started was disallowed by the rules, unless you were both mafia. Ergo I think that you are mafia and slipped by not realizing that your (honest) plan to remind Caitlin the game started was something that only a mafia would think of and not a town.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:16 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:43 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:37 pm What about that post says "I'm here for a good time" to you lol

They do this every other game and it sucks quite frankly

I just ignore it, it's white noise as far as I'm concerned. Not game-related and not alignment-indicative. Lots of people come in and say they hate mafia, lots of people come in and say they love mafia. I don't really give a shit, but I think making people feel even less welcome in the game just makes it worse tbh.

Sounds like they made themselves feel less welcome and we're just agreeing with them.

I think you are saying this performatively to try to pocket Sabi tbh considering that you are going out of your way to whiteknight someone who doesn't even want to be here.

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

(I am aware it's night, I'm using vote tags to indicate who I'd be voting if it was day)

I don't give a flying fuck what Sabi thinks of me if they're not reading the game. Point was that there's no need to be unnecessarily rude to people, just ignore it and move on. And I think it's slimy that you're turning this into a push on me.

^ caught for the wrong reasons wolf

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:59 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:41 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:43 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:37 pm What about that post says "I'm here for a good time" to you lol

They do this every other game and it sucks quite frankly

I just ignore it, it's white noise as far as I'm concerned. Not game-related and not alignment-indicative. Lots of people come in and say they hate mafia, lots of people come in and say they love mafia. I don't really give a shit, but I think making people feel even less welcome in the game just makes it worse tbh.

I hate mafia and all of you tbh

Let's have a good time

Jk

Inb4 someone calls this stilted and wolfy

[VOTE: Princess Abigail] aubergine

Caitlin is 0lx right?

I like all the debate about me being "hostile" by the way.

If this is what you guys consider hostile I hope you never have to see actual hostility!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:41 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:37 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:39 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:33 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:18 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm I'm still in retirement. I will slank. I still don't enjoy mafia.

This is it.

So did someone force you to sign up for the game at gunpoint or are you just making decisions that hurt both you and the rest of the game for no coherent reason?

I like Alison, sooooo LAMIST

Neither Sabi or Alison was being LAMIST there at all?

Moreso 'Look At Me I'm So Hostile'?

Im not judging the message not the delivery. Hostility for Alison is not alignment indicative.
She getting baited by sabi is,

hostility in general is not AI for her, but the type of hostility she is displaying is. She isn't hunting, she's disrupting.

I caught 3 wolves man not sure what else you want

porscha is probably also town

scum are the people I voted

falcon/nut obvious town btw

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:55 am I should probs remind Caitlin this game started when she wakes up since I signed up to play with her

Are you:
1) Claiming that you intend to privately communicate with another player about game-related information, which breaches rules about game integrity, or
2) Claiming to share a mafia chat with Caitlin?

[VOTE: Abigail] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:11 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm I have a great role

Alison not claiming Gambit Demon in the GoC.

You think Gambit Demon isn't a great role?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:43 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:37 pm What about that post says "I'm here for a good time" to you lol

They do this every other game and it sucks quite frankly

I just ignore it, it's white noise as far as I'm concerned. Not game-related and not alignment-indicative. Lots of people come in and say they hate mafia, lots of people come in and say they love mafia. I don't really give a shit, but I think making people feel even less welcome in the game just makes it worse tbh.

Sounds like they made themselves feel less welcome and we're just agreeing with them.

I think you are saying this performatively to try to pocket Sabi tbh considering that you are going out of your way to whiteknight someone who doesn't even want to be here.

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

(I am aware it's night, I'm using vote tags to indicate who I'd be voting if it was day)

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm I'm still in retirement. I will slank. I still don't enjoy mafia.

This is it.

So did someone force you to sign up for the game at gunpoint or are you just making decisions that hurt both you and the rest of the game for no coherent reason?

I have a great role