The Syndicate

so i've ran through the whole ordeal and got none of it

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:43 pm So I guess that's our first evidence of redirection then? Which sort of bolsters that kyle could have been redirected from ted as well

unbelievable

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:56 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:41 am Here, a question : let’s assume you’re a villager, although i highly doubt it atp.

you said you needed kyle to target you with his thing. did you ever hint to him that you needed him in order to get yourself cleared? or that he should use his ability on you?

I straight told him to and he did lmao

and did he say you did what you did?

Here, a question : let’s assume you’re a villager, although i highly doubt it atp.

you said you needed kyle to target you with his thing. did you ever hint to him that you needed him in order to get yourself cleared? or that he should use his ability on you?

villagers that have no relevant info to give to town (which you don’t seem like you do) would full claim here almost always. wolves struggling with fake claims are gonna delay it for no reason other then they can’t claim a convincing role to stay alive, so they just go for the delay while giving “snippets” of their “role”.

you can go ahead and point anything you want

you not full claiming here with night actions is pretty much equal to outing imo.

no reason for villager wilgy to hide a cop check from the thread when he’s already claimed what his role does, thus you are susceptible to “soup kills” anyway

it’s just another case of a wolf making a silly point about soup kill paranoia because, in reality, they probably can’t back up their claim / they need more time to think about it.

my point is clear

correction : he apparently moved his vote.

why were you voting for me in the first place, wilgy?

another thing : if wilgy truly believes in the “mass claiming is bad and there are mechanics to mess with it” then his vote on me is already >rand to be a throwaway vote and it doesn’t bode well with what I know of his villa play.

(he tunnels his scum reads and i doubt he has any reason to vote me rn, especially if he says mass claiming is bad since there are mechanics to temper with it)

kyle’s action could’ve been reasonably redirected or tempered with somehow, especially since he claimed a cop by d3 or there could be other mechanical shenanigans going on

the weight of my reply is grand

and i’m pretty sure i’ve already explained the wilgy thing several times, but his claim pretty much nails it imo

still no elaboration on his role = outed, it’s about a bad of a claim as you’d expect any wolf to make when they’ve been howling and not reading anything from the thread

there’s no way that wilgy as a villager doesn’t just full claim here imo, especially with everyone giving relevant information about their role

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:16 am This day should be Ted's day.
Trusting him when Kyle has a mechanical confirmed peek doesn't look good.
'But Michelle, Ted said he is 3rd.'
Yes, i know, but the way he is not explaining why he wants to lynch DrW is nagl.
I would lynch always Ted before DrW here.

lol

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:58 pm What does btsc mean. Never seen that acronym before lol

behind the scenes chat

i’m loling so hard rn

it’s 1AM, gonna sit on wilgy

please read my posts, been dropping truth bombs the entire day phase

going to sleepland, bai

if so, how aren’t you able to clear yourself in 5 night phases? what?

nobody claims to have been btsc’d by wilgy or given a peek, right?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:53 pm Is wilgy claiming role cop?

he’s claiming to be able to give btsc and peeks to people

i’m giving it a 5% wilgy thinks that as a villager, it’s very anti-town to claim his role information because he’d be at danger to die when his role doesn’t do anything great, especially in a game where claims were flying all over the thread.

can’t be real life. also, wilgy, explain how your role is to give people btsc or cop checks and you couldn’t clear yourself in 6 days with that? Or am i misunderstanding something

wilgy, can you say why you are scared to die this game?

i think it’s safe to say you haven’t read most of the game and getting soup killed essentially clears you even if you do die

so what was stopping you from claiming at all?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:40 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:10 pm i have a switch thingy from alison

which one was this btw?

I assume bus driving

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:39 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:03 pm also sup, just got out of shower and it’s 12 AM, ama

how was the shower?

in that middle spot, slightly to the hotter side

i think the feeling is amplified by you having 300 posts and every time you seem to be in thread, you seem to have no clue what’s going on at all and ask questions that i can’t believe you’re genuinely interested in for catching wolves

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:26 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:03 pm i feel like wilgy has been openly howling for the past 5 dayphases

I would like further insight into this.

Clearly this is not the case based on several reads we have from other players on me.

What about me makes you think I'm howling?

multitude of things

one of them being that you just claimed what your role does but you are “scared” of mechanics when you have 4 votes on you. it makes no sense (because you’re in contention for dying by day voting and even if you thought you’d get soup killed, apparently you couldn’t clear yourself in 6 days with this, so wolves killing you with an alleged soup kill sorta “clears” you) especially seeing as your role isn’t anything too strong. Plus, a lot of people claimed parts of their role by D3 and nothing happened to them, and by D4-D5 there was a full list minus 4 claims or something.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:22 pm Can you claim flavour?

I will not. No role hunting. Kyle softclaimed some of it via the choices host gave him if you can figure it out.

we’re at the point where ~everyone has claimed a part of their role, and judging off of the fact that you seem to be in contention for a yeet, i don’t see how you think it’s not important to claim everything.

you’ve already claimed what your abilities do, which isn’t anything OP. why would you not provide a flavour with it?

Can you claim flavour?

what kind of role is that? lol

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:12 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:10 pm i have a switch thingy from alison, i could use it on made

although if we’re wrong then I believe i’m donezo

but at this point of the game, mafia would probably have to place their kp on someone that half the thread thinks they’re mafia / some evil 3p.

see, you guise have so many uses for me, i may even be your most valuable asset aorn

oh that's right, you can bus drive now

you can use alison's ability simultaneously with your normal ability?

the reason i wanted MR to reflect Made was in case he was the last wolf and he carried the kill, then it'd just reflect onto himself and maybe save us a phase

if MR doesn't want to do that, then yeah, you should bus drive Made

yeah i’ll just do it

why are people moving off wilgy? just stay on him imo

he claimed to have been a self-clearing role in the case of a very simple scenario occurring and hasn’t claimed a role related thing since the thread has opened

i have a switch thingy from alison, i could use it on made

although if we’re wrong then I believe i’m donezo

but at this point of the game, mafia would probably have to place their kp on someone that half the thread thinks they’re mafia / some evil 3p.

see, you guise have so many uses for me, i may even be your most valuable asset aorn

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:04 pm @tedxtr

If you target who you need to, does that trigger the gun that same night, or do you have to wait another phase?

i have to wait another phase

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:04 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:03 pm i feel like wilgy has been openly howling for the past 5 dayphases

Yeh dood Sloonei was my teammate.

idk what the sloonei thing is but i’m just gonna say it doesn’t matter at all, since your other posts are howlers

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:03 pm Ok ok ok ok, my brain is on now...if Ted can kill people, and he kills within the PoE, he's an asset to town. @tedxtr can you do that?

i can’t, but we can act like i can if it gets me to live

your call

(i can get a kill on a role that’s likely mafia, has an offchance of being 3p)

also sup, just got out of shower and it’s 12 AM, ama

i feel like wilgy has been openly howling for the past 5 dayphases

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:54 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:52 pm did made claim anything concrete btw?

They are invulnerable and cannot be killed.

that's it? lol

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:53 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:31 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:18 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:18 pm I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

Town, pls acknowledge this

you're still voting me though

I literally just made the only compelling case for you to survive the day, are you sure you want to be giving me of all people attitude?

am i

did made claim anything concrete btw?

so if i get to live, i've gleaned from the thread suggestions on what to do tonight.

idk if i'll be back, i'll try, please read my posts again and acknowledge the right line of play, even if you think i'm a wolf, and the hostile 3p argument is pretty much out of the way. and i think i've made a good argument for why i'm not scum either.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:38 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:36 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:35 pm which is to say it seems just mostly convenient for you and inconsistent with other things we've seen.

why would there be a rule that bans you from sharing whether players are a specific role, when you aren't even given knowledge of what alignment that role is

i never claimed how my peek works or what kind of peek it is. so don't make assumptions.

do you have a kind of peek that gives you information that you don't actually need to find the Death Star?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:37 pm Not being able to claim who ted has targeted is weird, but think if he was lying he wouldn't use that as a defense.

yep, and it makes sense for anyone actually reading my posts and doesn't assume how my stuff works. since i never claimed what type of peek i have and how it works in relation to my other stuffs.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:35 pm which is to say it seems just mostly convenient for you and inconsistent with other things we've seen.

why would there be a rule that bans you from sharing whether players are a specific role, when you aren't even given knowledge of what alignment that role is

i never claimed how my peek works or what kind of peek it is. so don't make assumptions.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:33 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 pm i can claim my other abilities but can't claim the peeks i got. i think it's also because it's supposed to be used to get to the 3p, take it out in silence and get out of the game.

we already have 2 cops, and i reckon it's not balanced to get even more peeks. i can just decide to town side and out all my checks then.

this rule thing seems pretty fully loaded nachos guy to me

it makes sense even though it's surface level suspicious.

or maybe it's there for some other reasons, have no clue. not my problemo, but that was my best guess.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 pm Chopping him maybe advances our position but like it still doesn't eliminate a wolf yeah?

it actually doesn't...at all (fmpov, at least, since i know i'm telling the truth) lol

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:18 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:18 pm I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

Town, pls acknowledge this

you're still voting me though

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:26 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 pm He's not town, ok?

i can take out a mafia role though. not helpful enough?

I unvoted, not helpful enough?

the next step towards retribution is to vote for wilgy

like read the points people have against me on this page, mainly Michelle

absolutely nonsensical, right? it's because she thinks because i'm a 3p claim then i'm not town and thus must die, even though my actions would benefit the village.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 pm He's not town, ok?

i can take out a mafia role though. not helpful enough?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 pm i can claim my other abilities but can't claim the peeks i got. i think it's also because it's supposed to be used to get to the 3p, take it out in silence and get out of the game.

we already have 2 cops, and i reckon it's not balanced to get even more peeks. i can just decide to town side and out all my checks then.

I don't believe this, come on Ted, how can you have peeks?

yeah, how can i possibly have peeks when my action is to outlast a role.

absolutely unbelievable.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 pm Ted wants to live and knows that psychologically today is the day when everyone wants him dead.
If he succeed to convince everyone he is harmless, which can be a lie, btw, he can achieve wincon but he don't give more than words against others he said he scum read.

this is confirmed false. if i were any harmful 3p that blows up (since there were lacking kps) then i detonate yesterday.

and if i'm scum then there's a pretty high chance i get redirected or blocked by roles, so there is no reason for me to stay alive. it's actually even MORE towards my detriment if i'm a wolf, since if there's a team of wolves (2 and above), my buddy / buddies would be forced to carry the kill, sooooo...exposing them to more odds of getting blocked or tracked for no real benefit.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:48 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:47 pm You want to read my tinfoil?

Spoiler: show

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I'm losing confidence in my townread on Radishes

112 being 3p made me lose credibility in MR, but there be bigger fish to fry.

Plus I like MR's avatar.

that's such a wolf thing to say

i wonder why

i can claim my other abilities but can't claim the peeks i got. i think it's also because it's supposed to be used to get to the 3p, take it out in silence and get out of the game.

we already have 2 cops, and i reckon it's not balanced to get even more peeks. i can just decide to town side and out all my checks then.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:14 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:12 pmproblem : i can't claim that. the obvious part is that i haven't targeted the ship.

why not? is there a rule?

wouldn't the most efficient thing to do be to pool our resources and find the Black Pearl immediately

bingo. idk why i can't claim stuff. i assume it has to do with punishing mechanics for claiming 3p, they're supposed to stay hidden. otherwise no idea.

i think if you read my other posts, it does make sense why it'd be a mafia role or a 3p over town.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:38 pm @Dyslexicon i believe you misunderstood my actions ever since i've claimed

i've specifically said the strongman activates upon finding the role. and it's why i was saying that it makes sense due to the lack of town kp and small, concentrated guaranteed kp on a 3p / mafia makes sense in a setup where town doesn't have a lot of kp.

but when people don't see a villa claim they don't care anymore, doesn't matter if they are a 3p. even though i'm making a ton of sense.

the argument is more for my role being legit but it works for this reason too