The Syndicate

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:08 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:05 pm aaaaaand another reason for the ship to be mafia over town

why do i have a strongman over just a normal vig shot? do town roles usually have a bulletproof vest? i've only seen it on one site but that doesn't really count, i'd say, since it isn't the norm.
I have seen town been given bulletproof vests before, yes

i highly doubt it, but i guess it differs based on experience.

how much time have you played for?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:07 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:03 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:01 pm If we keep you alive can I steal your strongarm kill
idk how your role works. i have more than one ability, so i assume it's rng'd between my abilities?

and, again, my strongman ability works ONLY if you find the role. so idk if it'd work if you can just straight up choose what ability you want to steal.
I assume you've targeted people in finding their roles? Who have you targeted thus far?

problem : i can't claim that. the obvious part is that i haven't targeted the ship.

aaaaaand another reason for the ship to be mafia over town

why do i have a strongman over just a normal vig shot? do town roles usually have a bulletproof vest? i've only seen it on one site but that doesn't really count, i'd say, since it isn't the norm.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:01 pm If we keep you alive can I steal your strongarm kill

idk how your role works. i have more than one ability, so i assume it's rng'd between my abilities?

and, again, my strongman ability works ONLY if you find the role. so idk if it'd work if you can just straight up choose what ability you want to steal.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 pm I'm open to letting Ted Slide if and only if the other bus is sexy and cool and within the PoE as per Made's proclaimation

also what game is the flagship thing from? was there a boat mafia

it's FTL mafia

and another argument that i forgot to talk about was that I researched it (since i remembered the game the role was from) and that ship was a mafia role there.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:52 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored
so then just roleblock me / redirect me. you have no reason to believe i'm doing any harm.

again, i'm not a mass destruction role of any kind. otherwise i just trigger yesterday. and if we somehow don't stumble upon mafia, we can just take me out later. we already have some info on me, but none on a person that's actually being wolfy fmpov.
wouldn't roleblocking and redirecting you prevent you from finding your boat
you forget that my wincon is to outlast the ship, i don't really have to find it myself. as long as it dies, i leave the game victorious. and my point is that it's >rand to be mafia also.
why do you think it's probably not a town boat

i've never seen outlast wincons with town targets. it's always between 3ps or 3p with hunting mafia. and just from a perspective of town lacking KP (we only had a claimed n3 vig?) it seems a smart balance design to have a role that can take out a mafia role / 3p role. as in, it's low kp but it's concentrated and guaranteed to land on an evil.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored
so then just roleblock me / redirect me. you have no reason to believe i'm doing any harm.

again, i'm not a mass destruction role of any kind. otherwise i just trigger yesterday. and if we somehow don't stumble upon mafia, we can just take me out later. we already have some info on me, but none on a person that's actually being wolfy fmpov.
wouldn't roleblocking and redirecting you prevent you from finding your boat

you forget that my wincon is to outlast the ship, i don't really have to find it myself. as long as it dies, i leave the game victorious. and my point is that it's >rand to be mafia also.

i think wilgy has a lot of wolf equity and he hasn't claimed anything despite being vague in ways that he could clear himself. he also didn't start by claiming his role in a game where ~everyone has claimed except for 2-3 people and he was placed in the near PoE.

i doubt he targeted martin tonight of all people that "he didn't need to die in order to clear himself" so why didn't he come forward with more role info?

hint : it's because everyone is doing nothing and placing nonsensical votes on a claimed 3p. he's stalling.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:43 pm we're basically at the point of the game where we're working our way down the PoE, if there's someone you think deserves to be ahead of you in the PoE that's how you can survive long enough to prove your flagship thing
Yeah. This. Keeping Ted around as a backup chop is silly and he knows it. If he wants to live that's not the argument that's going to win me over.

what? why? it makes perfect sense to me.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored

so then just roleblock me / redirect me. you have no reason to believe i'm doing any harm.

again, i'm not a mass destruction role of any kind. otherwise i just trigger yesterday. and if we somehow don't stumble upon mafia, we can just take me out later. we already have some info on me, but none on a person that's actually being wolfy fmpov.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm I think the argument is that you aren't town, and you might be just lying. The only way to know for sure is for the role you're hypothetically searching for to kill to speak up (unlikely cus they either just don't exist or they would get shot if you survived) or to yeet you.

That's mostly the logic behind it.

or to let me in the game until it goes away or until i eliminate it. since the role is >rand to be a mafia role.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:40 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:34 pm Actually it'd be good for Wilgy to share more on his role.

Like everything.
no, i think you guys are better off voting me for no reason when i've laid the logic in front of your eyes
I have no qualms yeeting a 3P tbh.

i hope the wolf / wolves are deep. since i could've sniped a potential deep role easily. but the village wants none of it.

@Dyslexicon i believe you misunderstood my actions ever since i've claimed

i've specifically said the strongman activates upon finding the role. and it's why i was saying that it makes sense due to the lack of town kp and small, concentrated guaranteed kp on a 3p / mafia makes sense in a setup where town doesn't have a lot of kp.

but when people don't see a villa claim they don't care anymore, doesn't matter if they are a 3p. even though i'm making a ton of sense.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:34 pm Actually it'd be good for Wilgy to share more on his role.

Like everything.

no, i think you guys are better off voting me for no reason when i've laid the logic in front of your eyes

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:30 am These are the wagons right now, I agree a counter wagon is really necessary, but looking at how Ted is posting I am almost sure he is scum/antitown anyway.
looking at how he wanted to push me into the Poe doesn't fit with a town Ted who would interact with me before labeling me as possible scum yday

these are the accusations that go towards my slot

"he isn't town"

ok, so you're just saying i'm a 3p. 3ps aren't scum. and it's about the 50th time that i say that my wincon is achieved when a possible big bad role is down (which can also reasonably be mafia). how i'm being voted is beyond my comprehension

shouid've added a wolfy pop-in notice within that post, missed opportunity

i'm still clueless as to how / why i'm being voted over wilgy or someone that we have no info on.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:30 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:48 am i really don’t get how you can vote for me rn over wilgy, i swear

here’s what you know thus far :

> i hunt for what is likely a mafia role
> i am not a mass destruction role, since i just blow up last night
> in case i am some mafia role, i am not a threat. i can always be a backup yeet.
this makes sense to me.

grats, you're a true champion

i have uni i’ll bbl

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:53 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:33 am [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
This a serious case or are you just making things look interesting?
Need an acceptable cw.

If ted is 3p, then LC and tutuu are the scum but I townread both. Ted should probs be yeeted

that’s actually not true. @Kylemii describe your thing again?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:51 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:45 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:42 am oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?
Not that I know of
suspeeesh Isn’t it?

doesn’t matter rn though, we can’t even vote for her
Not really

he didn’t use it on anybody else though, right?

why not? and especially, why not on her again? from his role description, kp is achieved if you target the same person.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:45 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:42 am oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?
Not that I know of

suspeeesh Isn’t it?

doesn’t matter rn though, we can’t even vote for her

i really don’t get how you can vote for me rn over wilgy, i swear

here’s what you know thus far :

> i hunt for what is likely a mafia role
> i am not a mass destruction role, since i just blow up last night
> in case i am some mafia role, i am not a threat. i can always be a backup yeet.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:43 am
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:40 am @Timsup2nothin do you get any more shots?
Nope.

lame

maybe if i get to live we can shoot what probably is a mafia

oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?

why’s tutuu “spewed” though?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:35 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:01 am I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who
tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:23 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:00 amjust in case kyle isn’t lying about being 3p (i couldn’t check tonight) then it has to be tutuu, don’t think it can be LC
question w/r/t this, i feel like you've theorized that i was 3p or indy or at least searching for something or someone since like day 2, did you check me to see if i was the space ship you're looking for

my abilities are kinda scuffed, they work as if i were a joat

i used up my peek on someone n2 and gotta wait for it to get back in order

and i wasn’t as strong on you d2 like i was d3 or d4 (forgot which one it was), i believe the only info we had on d2 w/r/t you was the posting restriction thing. think you outed more stuff (the “checks” ) d3 and above

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:18 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:03 am i would’ve said probably michelle in that pool too but kyle cleared them? or was it not a clear?

dunno, harder to muster up interest in solving when you aren’t actually a villager and everyone votes you just cuz you claimed 3p
cannot clear michelle or or wilgy really.

without knowing what power i steal and with the power being public knowledge the thief power mostly just functions to stress me out.

then just vote one of them, you already know my claim and you already know i’m not a mass destruction threat too. if we yeet one of then and they’re mafia there’s also a chance that they flip the ship.

you will have me in the back of your pocket if you miss on other people, we have no info on wilgy at all and he’s a very likely mafia fmpov, no reason to go for me rn, just let me achieve my wincon

i’m clearly not a mass destruction role, otherwise i just blow up last night, there’s no reason to yeet me here

not like anyone cuuuurrrrs, the moment i claimed my role i was a dead man walking, not sure why i was dumb enough to not lie about it, maybe i’m just that naive and thought villagers are gonna understand, since it made a shit ton of sense fmpov so i thought it’d make sense for them too

oh well

i hope wolves win this yo, gl in your journey

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:08 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:46 pm Alison selecting out of the agreed pool smh

Oh well, made is probs town anyway
i'm tired of my contractees dying because I need them alive to fulfil my win condition

made claimed to be unkillable at night and consensus town during the day

so I picked made

then bring some sense into their heads

maybe i should’ve claimed from the first day like someone made the great comparison (think it was mr)

yes, when you get a wincon of “outlast x” the greatest thing to do is to claim what you are on D1

like cmon

[VOTE: tutuu ] aubergine

i would’ve said probably michelle in that pool too but kyle cleared them? or was it not a clear?

dunno, harder to muster up interest in solving when you aren’t actually a villager and everyone votes you just cuz you claimed 3p

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:50 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:35 am don’t know how i’m keeping my composure in this game. town’s getting sloppy in complacency.

if you think the last mafia steals people from the poll just have kyle steal one of my abilities at random, cuz i don’t have such a thing.

but i realize most of the votes are gonna be nonsensical at this point in the game
I've been saying this for a while. It has not made me popular. I would much rather spike a wolf than you, who are probably exactly the third party you claim to be.

So.

Who's a wolf?

good job, you know how to discern real claims from fake claims.

and first guess would be wilgy. I didn’t like the way he claimed + I assume at least one of the mafia roles can get themselves “maybe cleared” off of their night action.

just in case kyle isn’t lying about being 3p (i couldn’t check tonight) then it has to be tutuu, don’t think it can be LC

don’t know how i’m keeping my composure in this game. town’s getting sloppy in complacency.

if you think the last mafia steals people from the poll just have kyle steal one of my abilities at random, cuz i don’t have such a thing.

but i realize most of the votes are gonna be nonsensical at this point in the game

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:38 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:37 pm and it's useless to check me, since i will be bus driving myself.

if the flagship is a 3p, then they most likely have to take me out too. the sole reason i claimed was because i wouldn't need to worry about dying at night from their role, and thus losing.
wait, dumb question, were you able to busdrive yourself last night

no, i would've claimed so as my first post with the claim if that was the case, obv. and if i were lying and concocting a fake claim, i just would've claimed that.

which is why i have no clue, i just know i'm legit. someone smarter than me should add the puzzles together.

gonna go for some turbos or valorant now

i at least ask for 2 np, one where i check for them and one where, if i identify them correctly, strongman them.

or if i get the peek right, we can just yeet that person on that day and i leave the game.

and it's useless to check me, since i will be bus driving myself.

if the flagship is a 3p, then they most likely have to take me out too. the sole reason i claimed was because i wouldn't need to worry about dying at night from their role, and thus losing.

i have more than one power, but the relevant one that you're asking about...idk how that would prove me unless you exactly check the flagship. and i guess that confirms that i am not lying in that regard.

gonna go play valorant

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:28 pm We didn't let 112 achieve her win con.

We still have time to stop Alison achieving hers.

Let's be POWERTOWN and not let any other faction share our victory.

what about MY wincon? i defended you early br0, didn't you feel our connection? i did

if Kyle isn't the flag ship then it's probably Michelle btw. i hope it's sloonei and i can leave the game VICTORIOUS.

not like anybody cares though, fypov it's a 2 in 1 deal, i mean nothing to the village. if flagship doesn't leave at the same time i do, then it's just a mafia role and my early analysis on michelle being rebel flag ship counts a lot more imo.

not even letting me achieve my wincon after i've helped with yeeting that cat fellow

@TonyStarkPrime come solve this, i'm telling the truth about my role, that's all I know

who said mass claiming by d5 is a great idea, this feels more overwhelming than any math problem i've ever encountered

where's TSP, isn't he supposed to be a mech genius or something?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:11 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:37 am kyle already said he has multiple powers, among which can be normal checks too fwiw

because i also do have one, but i've been running like ass
I don't think I have ever said this, not in any meaningful way at least.

yeah that's actually true, you did signal boost that you had an op ability though, by saying "i gotta charge up my ultra" whateva

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:10 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:07 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:54 pm Thought about reading what I slept through...read one page of mech bullshit...skipped the rest.

I agree with Ted and believe his claim. I also think he is probably right about the wolves having a powerhouse bulletproof, and @tedxtr I'd examine Tutuu if I were you. I can give a plausible mech sequence that includes her being bulletproof.
the thing is, i think kyle is a 3p and lying about most of the things, including the checks.

there's a world where he just randomly role peek'd people and gave their alignments in the form of a parity check for...God knows what reason.

and another point : no way 3p checks as same with everyone else. what's the point of a parity cop then? parity cops are the most useful for finding 3ps, are they not? well, not only them, but we have a parity AND a normal cop right now, right?

the normal cop doesn't check for 3ps afaict
Kinda does. If he targets a 3P they get no instruction. Us being us, they might quote the Simpsons anyway and give him a false red, which would be funny, but if they don't quote Pesci OR Simpsons then he effectively has a 3P check...or got redirected or blocked or whatever.

ehh that's assuming stuff, we don't know for sure how jack's role interacts with a 3p

second claim as in, second person to claim something about their role, not a full claim.

so here's the thing, if kyle is somehow town, then i was either bus driven or he got roleblocked early?

the second thing doesn't seem all that impossible given that he was ~the second claim after alison, and he also claimed to have powerful actions.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:54 pm Thought about reading what I slept through...read one page of mech bullshit...skipped the rest.

I agree with Ted and believe his claim. I also think he is probably right about the wolves having a powerhouse bulletproof, and @tedxtr I'd examine Tutuu if I were you. I can give a plausible mech sequence that includes her being bulletproof.

the thing is, i think kyle is a 3p and lying about most of the things, including the checks.

there's a world where he just randomly role peek'd people and gave their alignments in the form of a parity check for...God knows what reason.

and another point : no way 3p checks as same with everyone else. what's the point of a parity cop then? parity cops are the most useful for finding 3ps, are they not? well, not only them, but we have a parity AND a normal cop right now, right?

the normal cop doesn't check for 3ps afaict

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