The Syndicate

rip tutuu

hope we somehow land on a wolf here

challenge impossible

delta, please keep your word and kill me this time, no funny business

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:48 pm The thread is so quiet. I am doubting everything now.

gone be a loss, embrace it

wow babe, those are some nice wagons

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:46 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:41 am

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:25 am [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

not feeling science right now
for uh
for history!

parking on a lurker slot with no wolfy actions cuz there's a ton of v/v violence so you just have to push someplace else to avoid accountability

particularly tutuu sucking, belzy pushing tutuu, esooa thinking i can be a wolf here

same thing with what epi's doing, how tf can he ever wolf read either me or esooa is beyond comprehension

Tutuu sucking?!?!?

hey, you could be a wolf!

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:25 am [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

not feeling science right now
for uh
for history!

parking on a lurker slot with no wolfy actions cuz there's a ton of v/v violence so you just have to push someplace else to avoid accountability

particularly tutuu sucking, belzy pushing tutuu, esooa thinking i can be a wolf here

same thing with what epi's doing, how tf can he ever wolf read either me or esooa is beyond comprehension

delta / epi

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:40 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:34 pm Mafia:

ted
esooa

Wow, really? How did you create those reads?

cuz he's a wolf

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:01 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:35 pm I don't like the composition of Belzy's wagon.

What's wrong with it?

You and Ted have made little-to-no impression on me this game, which is worrisome. Tutuu is... Tutuu.

I did check Ted's ISO after Xan's comment though and Ted actually does look pretty townie. You on the other hand don't.

I just swapped in last night. I'm not sure what impression you're expecting me to make. Sounds to me like you already know Belzy's alignment.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

think this was a pretty sudden progression and it didn't come across as natural from having belzy a wolf previously, and it looked pretty strong too

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:33 am now that epi's dead

sean

as for epi, i agreed with sean's read. i actually had that same read but i didn't wanna bring it up cuz i was unsure. now that epi's dead, it feels better to explore.

he does seem here like he has this politician's tone that he usually doesn't have as a villa.

Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:19 pm i should probably learn from xan/sam being v/v last game but think theres a wolf in belzy/seanzie wheee

it came across like a TMI attempt while trying to show he is evaluating xan more carefully now. regardless of what he randed, he should've known to be more careful of xan this time around, but the way he's doing it makes me think it's coming from the wolf angle of feigning exploring the possibility of him being villa, but it's for the silliest of reasons, like the fact that he was wrong on a w/w callout last game. he's not even saying directly that xan could be a villa, but he brings up that just because last game he was wrong, this game might mean they are both villagers

it looks manufactured to me

and i've mentioned a lot of his pushes are based on "idk why you'd do this" where a villager would be curious to find out where the actions are coming from / motivation

re-read my case, i made it on him

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:50 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:43 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:59 pm @tedxtr hello

Hello

I wanted to ask about your reads but you answered already lmao

but ty for saying hello

why you thinking Delta's a wolf? I think my reasons I said for him/xanjori being t/t in general was good. I think he generally interacted with Xanjori like a town, both by dynamic and just what he was saying

I’ve made the big case, plus his gameplay makes sense to me as a wolf.

He’s mentioned he finds himself stuck as suspected when wolfing but still managing to find a way out. I think that’s because of his perseverance and power of will.

His argument with xan was weird to get into after just being wrong last time and he was focused a lot on it despite of it. Plus i explained how i think he tmi’d xan / sean in an attempt to look like he’s actually considering xan’s potential to be villagery (which would’ve been the normal reaction as a villager), but instead he kept tunneling him while bringing weak points that would consider that view of being hedgy on him

I’ll explain on pc rn cuz ik the last part prob makes little sense

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:59 pm @tedxtr hello

Hello

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:40 pm @tedxtr what happened to ur delta sus? u asked him to nk you last night

Nothing

Im at delta / wilgy / epi in some order

Tho i think delta would’ve capped me if he was wolf, who knows

doctor boogerz

well if he's a villa then my common sense was closer to truth

he's got to be awolf lol

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:59 pm Opem night again?

ye

[VOTE: xan ] aubergine

gl us

lol

nah im gonna unvote / vote xan if it comes down to it

im deeply unsettled by him afking this EoD and i don't want to be the reason he gets to live if he's a wolf

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:47 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:46 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:44 pm i think the key aspect is that he does not care to appear villagery as a villager. he just picks up on something and rams it to the ground til something gives

him doing more than the usual solving makes me believe he could have randed wolf that cares about their position. villager him does not care about his position.

wait when did u last play w wilgy?

eons

this fiddles me timber iss just like last rand ur saying stuff bout my meta when u havent played with me in TWO YEARS. same for woogerz

altho i get that the point of mafia is to at least try

maybe u like to word ur stuff confidently iono mane

the core concepts shouldn't change. im not gonna give up on meta that had consistently landed me a good read on him just cuz we haven't played in a while. i have no reason to assume it's changed if it didn't change for as long as i played with him

no matter how much you want to change your meta, there are some things that simply can not be changed. you can change micro level stuff, but there's levels that are the foundation.

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:46 pm since like
he got misyeeted in the original rand for not solving

i think i can speak for wilgy that he does not care about that. first off, the game didn't even continue so his elimination doesn't matter at all and shouldn't have upped his desire to be alive here

and again, he just doesn't care about that on principle

also to be clear, i don't want people to take it that solving is bad

but in this case, he just said this person is not w/w with this person, which is a very easy thing to do. if he would've showed depth then obv it's something different

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:44 pm i think the key aspect is that he does not care to appear villagery as a villager. he just picks up on something and rams it to the ground til something gives

him doing more than the usual solving makes me believe he could have randed wolf that cares about their position. villager him does not care about his position.

wait when did u last play w wilgy?

eons

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:42 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:41 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:39 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:30 pm also there's a subtle cue that he's stating his wolfread on falcon as being wolf because he did not react appropriately

whereas with his usual suspicions he actually votes for something and not as a part of how people respond, if that makes sense

I am trying to compare the games, but even what is different could not mean much. How fam are you with Wilg?

i haven't played with him in a long time, but when he was a wolf, i caught him, when he was a villa, i found him

And you feel like you caught him?

nah it's too early to tell lol. i don't claim that type of confidence, i wouldn't say he's outed and to swap the wagon from xanj.

im a bit selfish and want to see it go through. i think xan is a villager solely cuz there was no cw all game, but he was here and seems to not have posted in a long time so maybe he's just a wolf

i think the key aspect is that he does not care to appear villagery as a villager. he just picks up on something and rams it to the ground til something gives

him doing more than the usual solving makes me believe he could have randed wolf that cares about their position. villager him does not care about his position.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:39 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:30 pm also there's a subtle cue that he's stating his wolfread on falcon as being wolf because he did not react appropriately

whereas with his usual suspicions he actually votes for something and not as a part of how people respond, if that makes sense

I am trying to compare the games, but even what is different could not mean much. How fam are you with Wilg?

i haven't played with him in a long time, but when he was a wolf, i caught him, when he was a villa, i found him

that's ok

also there's a subtle cue that he's stating his wolfread on falcon as being wolf because he did not react appropriately

whereas with his usual suspicions he actually votes for something and not as a part of how people respond, if that makes sense

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:39 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:27 pm Falcon is a wolf.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Why?

Falcon's not actually pushing for engagement. I pitched a softball and got a gif.

pretty tame callout

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:24 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:24 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:22 pm Weird thing: original rand I was more willing to lynch Wilg day 1 than now, but Wilg waa town that time.

im starting to think he could easily be a wolf

Could you elobarate on that?

not really, a lot of it is based on meta from years ago. i can't be too confident due to that, but in here i think he outed more thoughts that show solving than his usual MO of voting someone and tunneling til he spots something to change his mind

and his re-entrance is pretty poor

+ he's here for an EoD which is wolfy in and of itself lmfao

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:22 pm Weird thing: original rand I was more willing to lynch Wilg day 1 than now, but Wilg waa town that time.

im starting to think he could easily be a wolf

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:19 pm My full reads:

Belzy







Rest

imagine the embarrassment if belzy was a wolf

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:12 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:11 pm the batsignal makes wilgy a locked wolf

sorry wilgy

Yeah Delta told me to hop in thread

did you say this cuz you knew i wolf read him?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:12 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:11 pm the batsignal makes wilgy a locked wolf

sorry wilgy

Yeah Delta told me to hop in thread

yeah, i BET

the batsignal makes wilgy a locked wolf

sorry wilgy

[VOTE: DrWilgy ] aubergine

will be funny if we kill him again without knowing

Im sheeping belzy until the end of the game

delta you better nk me

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:54 pm Belzy only makes up this whole thing if theyre the Main Character

to be fair, it's easier after having you say you didn't get the pm last game

this guy was the only wagon the entire game

if he's a wolf then damn

what wagons, it's literally just him

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:37 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:33 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:23 pm Ted also got super quiet at start of the rerand

Can you explain how you're interpreting this as AI?

He got scared not knowing how to switch it up coz how often do u wolf in this position - never

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:07 pm Doesnt sound different to me from his push on me last game

respecting your elders, being cautious

i rate that