The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 3:35 pm I literally gave a solve, fuck off you obnoxious twit

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 3:32 pm Oh that’s a nice look, blaming me for my death. You jagoff.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:27 am Better record than yours!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:22 am I’m literally agreeing with you that I should be shot tonight, you don’t need to keep spewing shit.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:16 am I don’t feel the need to engage with your garbage anymore. We can discuss in postgame and compare who shot scum and who pushed a scum agenda despite being confirmed town.

I’m not fighting it anymore, shoot me tonight then I’ll be smug in post game.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 7:35 am Quite simply, I'm fighting pride at this point. Boo was an early civ read for me because I liked his approach. I can see how his tone and content may betray the logical approach and rebuttals that appealed to me. Nanook was another logic-based read because I don't think it's in baddies' interests to make the game harder for themselves unless absolutely necessary. I don't think that Dragomir was a lock for bad guy of the day for Day 3, because all the night discussion was about the people on Nanook's list. Unless I'm mistaken, Johann was the only one who had Dargomir in his sights Night 2 to that extent. You'd have had to press super-town hard at that point to make him the central focus. I was still uncertain of you at that point, so I don't know that I'd have thrown in with you, despite my thoughts of him.

To turn around and take two early civ reads and consider them in the POE now means admitting that I was duped from Day 1. It's been a long time since I was that wrong in a game and it stings. I'm processing it still. I'll come back in the afternoon after some time in the office.

Johann wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:49 am Most people here believe Nanook is town bcs he shot red and nanook himself likes to brag about it. If you read D2 i was the first one to push on Drago and the one that advocated his death the most. Rest of people soon picked it up too and Dragimir became suspect number 1. Dragomirs death was 100 gurantee. Nanook shoot Dragomir and the rest is history. After killing of Dragomir nanook started to boast how he is townie and he killed a scum, like he is the only one that knew Dragomir is scum. In fact majority of us knew and sooner or later he would die. So Nanook decided to cement his town position and shoot scum. Nothing now stands in his position.

After that he became cocky and took a back seat because he is confident in his position. You now have a player that killed a scum and is universaly read by most to be town and can get the gun again... yet mafia chooses to poison me? It makws 0 sense at all to leave Nanook alive after everything like 0%. If you were scum ask yourself would you leave Nanook alive? Ofc not!

He then said despite having "juciy opportunities" to push for me he didnt. What kind of townie says shit like that? Like hello?

This day phase so far has been really bad. No activity or trying to figure out stuff. Most of you are all locked in your reads and too lazy or stubborn to change. If one of you just dropped it for a bit and read some you would see a bigger picture.

You are being played hard and with activity and passion like this you will lose hard

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 4:16 am

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Quotes galore that I want to point out when I’m not on my phone. I feel like James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. Nanook and Jack seem to be arm-wrestling for control of the game today. Nanook was posting like someone who was sure he was going to get poisoned last night but showed no surprise at it not happening. Instead, he pivoted into a strong stance. Jack continues to flail about. It’s like the more he talks the harder it is to see clearly (or what I thought was clearly).

So, here is the state of things right now from my perspective. Both Nanook and Jack have town cleared me, Funny, and a couple others. On the other hand people in the town clear pile are suspecting Boo, Jack, and Nanook. I don't feel like Boo or Jack are arm-wrestling for control, because there's a chance one will get shot after the other for all we know. From my perspective, they are trying to push forward arguments why the other could be scum for the people in their town clears.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Can anyone see Jack-Nanook teammate compatibility in any of this? That’s the tinfoiliest of tinfoil for two baddies to go this cutthroat and vocal, but it drowns out all discussion and wears everybody out. Is that happening here? It feels too organic to be fake to me. I still want to believe that common sense dictates it is pointless for Nanook to kill a teammate when he doesn’t have to. Someone said he did it recently. If that’s true, then I have to wonder if he’s ballsy enough to try the same play again so soon. I didn’t play whatever game that was, so I haven’t been burned by it personally to vacate him of that defense.

If Boo flips town, one of those two are gonna get shot next, so they can't really hide from people. I think it's more likely that only one of them is scum, if at all.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Nanook and Jack both seem to have Boo in their shoot list. Johann has said today that both Nanook and Boo look like scum. If it weren’t for that, I might worry that Boo was being touted about as a red herring. That could still be the case in the tinfoiliest of tinfoil, but that means we’re being played hard and/or overlooking someone. I am guilty of mostly sheeping a civ read of Funnygurl based on the civ reads of others. With no playing experience with her, I have to trust your collective guts on her.

In Nanook's case, I feel like he was forced to include Boo in their shoot list after me and a bunch of other people kept yelling in the game that he should be in the PoE. So no, I don't hink Nanook and Jack fall under the same category as far as Boo goes.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm I am too stubborn to abandon my town tead on Nanook just yet.

That's fine. Even if Boo flips scum, I wouldn't automatically assume Nanook was scum with them. I think the only thing I'd do if Boo flips scum is clear Jack completely.

Thank you both for these posts. If Boo's flip can clear Jack, then that's at least something. Are there any other shots in the POE that could clear someone like that?

I'm going to change my vote to [VOTE: Funnygurl] aubergine.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 7:50 am We’re just shooting me tonight, full stop. I’m not going to be the losing mis-kill, so the options are ONLY a) shoot me tonight and find a replacement for me in the towncore I laid out, or b) give me the gun and if I don’t shoot scum you can shoot me tomorrow and I’ll accept the loss.

There isn’t another option, cause I’ll tell you right now I’m not going to deal with this bullshit another game day, either resolve my slot now or lock me town. I don’t really give a fuck which at this point.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 6:39 am Dude, I’m obviously not going to get poisoned while I’m being pushed so hard. That’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.

Also I wouldn’t have gotten poisoned until last night, but do you know what happened yesterday...that’s right, idiots pushed me! Well, tbf, jack might not be an idiot, he might just be scum, but not everyone has that excuse.

Anyways I’m disengaging again now, I find it hard to believe how hard you’re deciding to throw here but you do you I guess. I will say I told you so in post game.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 6:37 am I’ve done literally the only thing of tangible value to town this game and meanwhile you and jack are sitting over there going “fuck you Nanook you suck”

Jack has the excuse of possibly being scum but you’re confirmed town playing exactly to the scum wincon, so good job there, I hope you feel proud of yourself after you see my flip.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 6:25 am Lord save us from the idiots.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 5:45 pm if he's a wolf he's just one wolf though. there's another. i'd rather be safe and like not off the one person who shot red

are we at mylo rn o__O

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 4:26 pm

Johann wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:20 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:41 pm give me the gun

What is your comment on recent posts

jack is onto something. y'all shoulda been more paranoid after a jack flip, not using the same poe

also, jack's alone

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:41 pm give me the gun

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:09 am I also refused to push Johan despite very juicy opportunities to do so.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:02 am It’s also fairly hard to take you serious when you’re pushing me

You keep saying “do something,” but guess what...I’ve already done more than any other town, I shot drago. So get the fuck over yourself and find someone else to push, or accept that you’re likely getting shot for playing to the scum wincon.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:34 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:00 pm also idfk what's wrong with flip flopping. at least i'm out here acknowledging that i've been wrong. consistent reads are for twg gods or ppl who are too bullheaded and end up wrong, or wolves

I'm all about the flip flop life FG. Flip flop til ya don't stop I say.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:30 pm

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Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:25 pm

Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:56 am

boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:53 am

Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:42 am

boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:39 am

Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:33 am
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks

I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.

Listen here.

Those 2 have no influence on me what so ever, no one in this game does. I don't know any of you besides Dragomir. You maybe are my prime shot but i am not an idiot that will close them self in the shell and donkey it.

I am asking you a simple question. As someone who sees part of dougal that's scummy - why do YOU wanna kill him

The same reason anyone wants to kill anyone in mafia (well. usually, at least), I believe it's part of my win condition. I can see what Mac is trying to do here, but I think he misplayed, is mafia, and does not have the numbers to make his plan work. It could be close, but it's increasingly looking like it won't be. He's even lost you. Maybe not fully, but enough.

Ok
Listen here

Can you stop playing the victim for a second and answer in a simple manner - WHY DO YOU THINK DOUGALL IS SCUM.
I don't wanna hear stuff like " i can see what mac is trying to do here"
Like you have to have a reason , a reason you can put in words why is he scum. If you do put it in words or by god i will put a bullet in you

There is nothing in here that strikes me as "playing the victim." I think boo is explaining why he suspects Mac, in his own way (i've noted that boo's reads aren't always clearly stated, but I don't necessarily suspect him for that). When he says he "can see what Mac is doing", he means that as in he believes that he can see Mac manipulating the thread toward a certain end: that is why boo suspects mac. "Playing the victim" would imply that boo's attitude projects an air of persecution here, as though he feels you are unfairly questioning him, but I don't get that sense at all. I see him answering your questions in the way he's comfortable doing. This aligns with his general attitude throughout the game. His approach is unorthodox, but it's clearly stated.

Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:56 am

boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:53 am

Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:42 am

boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:39 am

Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:33 am

boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:32 am

Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:25 am
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?

TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.

I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks

I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.

Listen here.

Those 2 have no influence on me what so ever, no one in this game does. I don't know any of you besides Dragomir. You maybe are my prime shot but i am not an idiot that will close them self in the shell and donkey it.

I am asking you a simple question. As someone who sees part of dougal that's scummy - why do YOU wanna kill him

The same reason anyone wants to kill anyone in mafia (well. usually, at least), I believe it's part of my win condition. I can see what Mac is trying to do here, but I think he misplayed, is mafia, and does not have the numbers to make his plan work. It could be close, but it's increasingly looking like it won't be. He's even lost you. Maybe not fully, but enough.

Ok
Listen here

Can you stop playing the victim for a second and answer in a simple manner - WHY DO YOU THINK DOUGALL IS SCUM.
I don't wanna hear stuff like " i can see what mac is trying to do here"
Like you have to have a reason , a reason you can put in words why is he scum. If you do put it in words or by god i will put a bullet in you

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:20 pm

Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:16 pm @slooney

I asked boo to explain to me in simple terms why is dougall scum to him but he couldnt drop the victim mentality for one sec and kept saying some big words like.some politician

I do not see him playing the victim. Could you show me the post(s) you're talking about?