The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:41 pm By the way tommy you got probably the worst thing this game, even the vanillas were either scum or got picked as a lover, you’re welcome

You suck

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:27 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:24 pm Tony not trying to rag on you ~too much but I will say that in mafia you can't always control everyone's reads, for example epi here tinfoiling was beyond your control. If he was going to lynch you despite being cleared, you can't control that, so it's not something you should be worrying about here. Your original plan was good, but you have got to stick to that in future games. If someone is going to tunnel you and gamethrow despite mechanical evidence that's on them, not you. By that same logic, you have to do your part to stick to the mechanical win.

Reads are subjective and everyone gets them wrong, that's sort of mafia. But mechanics are rigid so getting them is the most important part of the game. If there's ever a mechanical win, go for it, don't back out because you assume someone else will game throw next day.
I think you're right Dusk and I'll take this as a learning opportunity. I'll note that the way this played out also was a mechanical win, but it wasn't as clean as my original option. I just overthought it. Bad!

True true lmao

Tony not trying to rag on you ~too much but I will say that in mafia you can't always control everyone's reads, for example epi here tinfoiling was beyond your control. If he was going to lynch you despite being cleared, you can't control that, so it's not something you should be worrying about here. Your original plan was good, but you have got to stick to that in future games. If someone is going to tunnel you and gamethrow despite mechanical evidence that's on them, not you. By that same logic, you have to do your part to stick to the mechanical win.

Reads are subjective and everyone gets them wrong, that's sort of mafia. But mechanics are rigid so getting them is the most important part of the game. If there's ever a mechanical win, go for it, don't back out because you assume someone else will game throw next day.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:03 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:45 pm God fucking damn it Epi the evidence was all there and you just fucking ignored it. This could have been an easy win but you refused to think for a second. Grrrrrrr

Anyway everyone bow down to my Jaydar

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:49 pm I nailed both remaining mafia before I died, and Tony had proof LC was lying, but no Epi's ego is too big to reevaluate or consider a dead townie's perspective.

I feel bad for Tony having seen all this through neighbor chat too.
For someone so acutely concerned with how words may cause offense or negatively influence someone's mental state, you sure don't seem to mind dishing out some derogation when it suits you.

Bro you had the role pm to resolve the 1v1, what was the logic in voting tony??

Unironically feel like I just played a maf champs game

Everyone please remember this was not my fault when voting

Apparently long con didn't even have the right claim? But epi still voted. Tbh epi and tony just decided they wanted to lose the game here

Incredibly tilted

Wait are you unironically trying to push me

:ohno:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:35 am
Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:32 am
Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:30 am @TonyStarkPrime are you actually town that had a mechanical win idea then didn't follow it and hard cleared scum or are you trolling? LOL
town, mechanical win idea, didn't follow it, hard cleared scum. not particularly happy about it.
I actually maintain that it was proper play but maybe I was just too tired to be mafiaing.
Going against a 100 percent town win to hard clear scum as town is never the proper play
lets think this through.
I send you a role. LC kills you. Epi doesn't get anything. LC convinces Epi that he (LC) had been blocked. Epi is strongly predisposed to believe LC. I lose. It's not a 100 percent town win.

No you overthought a 100 percent win and decided to lose the game for your whole alignment dude. You can tinfoil infinite world's in a closed setup but sometimes you just have to play the game, like you should've done here. You can't account for every single possibility or role existing. Sure anything is possible, but that doesn't make hard clearing the guy ccing you a good play.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:32 am
Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:30 am @TonyStarkPrime are you actually town that had a mechanical win idea then didn't follow it and hard cleared scum or are you trolling? LOL
town, mechanical win idea, didn't follow it, hard cleared scum. not particularly happy about it.
I actually maintain that it was proper play but maybe I was just too tired to be mafiaing.

Going against a 100 percent town win to hard clear scum as town is never the proper play

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] are you actually town that had a mechanical win idea then didn't follow it and hard cleared scum or are you trolling? LOL

Alignment long con?

W/e gg

I'll feel like a huge dummy if this is the 1 percent world but Tony will feel dumber ok

Actually i guess I can just flame postgame for Tony gamethrowing if he sent to epi and not me anyways

It feels slightly better to redo I think though I have no doubts you are town I don't want to rush the end of the game for no reason

I mean Tony is mafia but there's still a mechanically correct way to play here LMAO

Why did you send my cleared town role pm over the person counterclaiming you?? Like what's the logic here

You could've sent Tony's role, proving he's not rolecop

Long con why did you not follow the plan we would be winning rn now I've to go through this wait again, what's the point in sending the role of the person already confirmed town

Ok guess we have to rerun Mylo

Kk good night frens hopefully mafia doesn't have a roleblocker

Epi you and me are cleared here long con and Tony are the people cc'ing each other btw, but the plan lets us find whichever out of them is the mafia

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:47 pm Nobody even gives a SHIT about my Night action. How wild is that?

What's your role again do we know?

What's your role again epi

Also this plan doesn't work cause mafia can just target the person that they are meant to give the role pm to right

Oh wait no I guess this does work, ok long con make sure you follow above please

Ok mechanical wins make me happy

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:36 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:33 pm Ok so obviously me/epi are confirmed town and there is now wifom to send the other persons role pm to whoever lives and get town auto, good luck role cop sender please carry us to victory
I agree with the first clause you have.

Why would LC be in doubt?

I mean I think tony is the lynch regardless but if I get sent a role pm telling me long con is vanilla I'm lynching him

Oh nvm he claimed to send me a random role not randomly send someone's role to a set target f. Guess I'll see you guys tomorrow if Gy has not accepted me into their loving arms

Actually this game is auto already, since Tony claimed his role works by going to a random living player, it has to go to whoever out of me/epi lives, so if me or epi don't get a role pm Tony is always the lynch since his roleclaim is false

Ok so obviously me/epi are confirmed town and there is now wifom to send the other persons role pm to whoever lives and get town auto, good luck role cop sender please carry us to victory

Gl if you're alive tomorrow epi

Cool epi is hardcleared

DS is usually anti bussing so I'll probably not tinfoil and do Tony + jjj

Oh dear I am going to have to decide the game tomorrow aren't I

Oh neat he stuck to his fakeclaim i don't have to tinfoil

jjj's role is if during a night he get's the most concert visiting votes he becomes vote immune the next day, only works once per game and can't work in mylo/lylo

Ok jjj's role is not what he claimed if he get's the concert vote he becomes immune (fails going into lylo) so he has lied multiple times this game, including coming into lylo. So jjj is either scum here or we get to blame the game on him for fakeclaiming for no real reason last night, trying to get immunity.

Aside from that i am going to accept long con as town for sending me jjj's role pm and sending town a role pm n1 also. Epi is probably town due to relations with jjj today, apparently voting and unvoting jjj makes it unlikely scumpartner. So team here is almost definitely just jjj + tony

Not revealing till role cop claims, this is also my last post until rolecop claims. In the event anyone posts after this without claiming rolecop I'll assume you are not, so town rolecop if you withold your claim the odds are I will end up voting you today and we will lose. There's no reason to withhold here

There's exactly 2 mafia alive and I likely have the correct solve and will vote immediately after the rolecop claims and is confirmed, no one else should vote before me

Btw I have rolecop result today

Rolecop needs to claim

Same to [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] and [mention]Epignosis[/mention] for above actually

[mention]nutella[/mention] what's your read on Tony and long con again?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:34 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:04 pm @nutella do you agree the role cop sender has to be town if you are town?
Not totally sure, but probably? Idk why a mafia would send a townie another townie to remove from the poe

Exactly so he's just town from your perspective and you should never ever lynch?

Nvm found it not for ages

When's night deadline

[mention]nutella[/mention] do you agree the role cop sender has to be town if you are town?

In a world where role cop sending role can send a role pm to a player, though I am assuming it's targeted I guess, they always send to a partner unless they are attempting to fake clear their partner who has a townie role

So yeah if a role cop sender claims town then they are cleared unless Nutella is mafia imo

If any town has a rolecop sending role claim and clear Nutell immediately tomorrow, if not Nutella is near lock scum I think? The rolecop sender is either nutellas scum partner or town

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