The Syndicate

Mac and I were robbed
Our PoE's intersected to scumteam

Yes, I die if mac dies but not vice versa
I suspected mac because he was more active in last game and in lover chat than the game, but I realized he was 3rd party in that game not a long time ago. He said DKDK me it would be funny and I agreed but i don't wanna play high stakes and DKDK mac atm, I think he was just busy yesterday with other games
I think his reads today are a bit spicy which is unscummy? However Idt i can get behind tsp because i think i had a reason in my post to townread them, Also nutella is scummy idk why shes in macs town core

Vote: nutella
Aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:27 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:02 pm [Mostly-OT] Btw the "yetl" thing is a reference to an incident from a previous season of champs (that I didn't witness firsthand but have heard tell of), I believe the season that DS claims to have been "robbed" of winning lol. Basically he was in F3 with locked-in votes, there was a player named Yeti, and DS baited out the wolf by deliberately voting for a misspelling of Yeti's name so it wouldn't actually go through, and when the other player jumped on it DS caught them as a wolf and voted them instead, and I believe it is the reason that MU added the "invalid vote" warning. It's controversial but I think it was hilarious and clever tbh, I can see why it could be considered dirty play and why they changed the vote label to dissuade it, but I don't know if I'd call it "angleshooting" per se. [/Mostly-OT]
That's shit play and unsportsmanlike.

no

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:27 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:26 pm Easy, she was everyone's top townread. Seems like an obvious kill choice in any world. And potentially a frame job on me. Also she was misreading Jay as town, so. Wifom and all that.

I explained the yetl thing earlier btw if you would care to read my posts. While you're at it, check out my sweet case on Jay.
She wasn't mine.

Who was your's?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:28 pm How bout this. I'll just post this person's role, and you can all discuss what alignment you think this person is?

"Rock n Roll Suicide

When you die (by any means), you can choose to enter a neighborhood with a player of your choice rather than go to dead chat."

Seems town right?

How is this allowed?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:06 pm Also if Jiwon knew she was lovers with Mac on D1 why did she seem pretty eager to eliminate him at one point (and obviously again today but that can be more excused by her awareness that many of us would like to resolve her slot) ....maybe she just figured that leetic was going to be it at that point anyway. Idk. This is weird.

Her reaction to the lover stuff is pretty interesting on a second look. She says it would be a good deal if DS is scum and then goes ahead and hammers. Is that a bus with the tradeoff of taking down a townie too? I personally think it's pretty easy to read that way. Especially since nobody really suspected DS at the time.

After the flip she says "I created the most suspicion against DS" which......isn't really true at all lol. She was more like "what the hell might as well hammer in case DS is scum" without really suspecting him much beforehand (she had like one post with some minor pressure on him tbf). I think she knew exactly what she was doing.

[VOTE: jiwon] aubergine

linki: it's not a bullshit read. your slot's interaction with DS is hot garbage and you know this. if you were reviewing that slot from a neutral position you would have it as orange, I am certain. sure there's nothing really conclusive, but to me it fits the exact mold of a teammate pairing, partially because of the lack of material.

your read on me is the fake one. You know that I only go hard on you like this as town. In FTL I kept you comfortably in my pocket. You 100% know that I don't treat you like this as scum. You're full of shit.

Besides, you are the one who broadened the POE pool too much. You concluded your interactive exercise with a 50/50 split, which is not your typical pattern. You are leaving your options open. I have exactly three suspects.

Damn I so wish I could vote for you. But I think Jiwon is pretty likely your partner here so it's ok.

Only thing I said about McD D1 was "why are you town?" and lover claim, did I shaded my my platonic love because I knew someone else was going to get DKDK'ed anyway and I wanted town to think when I reveal as lovers with McD, I wouldn't ask a question to my love if I am mafia because I wouldn't want my love to get DKDK'ed because that would kill me? I think I know why you are weirded out, you are trying to bend what you think about my post too much because that would be convenient for you since you want your d1 SR on me to be consistent and try to find anything that could be scummy about me.
As for DS hammer, I didn't know DS was scum and what you said is based on I knew that DS was scum, I simply didn't but I knew he could be scum, his flavor post was already weird and it would be good to DKDK 2 scummy players for 1. I tried to get credit for it because I was like what the hell, if It will help me to survive it will. That's also what town wants

I think I will DKDK between Nutella, Mac and Jay, maybe LC.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:35 pm with jay off the table my vote will likely be between jiwon and mac. will be back in a bit to look further into them

nutella suspecting us and voting for me while if she votes mac both of us will die is

DS obviously knows scum enough to make WIFOM reads, his town to scum readpile could mean anything, I skipped it while rereading~

RE:Mac
Those doesn't show that you are not scum with DS lol~ You wasn't even voting for him at EoD

Because I like it and agree with LC's handling to lover claim is townish but I mean, it could be some kind of distance since if it was true DS was also going to get DKDK'ed but that seems unlikely for now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:29 am I wish I had more to talk about, but I like it anyway -- especially LC's handling of the lover claim. I dig.

I didn't have a read about Long con but I think I will sheep Jay on this, at least for today.

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:56 pm Anyway, I won't just say :I am town" with nothing behind it, I literally created the most suspicion against DS and basically hammered him, if you want I can quote my posts but I'm going to sleep, soo~
Good night, everyone~~

OK, it might be Epi who created the most suspicion against DS but I hammered him. OK, leetic was already going to be the DKDK but still, I said it is a good deal to DKDK leetic if DS is scum and I pointed out that DS shouldn't be townread for what he did in D1

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:43 pm
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:04 pm
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
This is exactly my feelings on Leetic's appeals to "If I'm a wolf, who are my partners then, huh?"

Like I've said that as a townie....on day 4 after getting in fights with literally the entire playerlist. On D1, it doesn't mean much.

While I'm using a post, here's about where I'm at

Dunya (light green starts here)
Jiwon
Dusk
DS (yellow starts here)
LC
Mac
Nutella (orange starts here)
Leetic <- but Leetic is not scum with Epi or Nutella probly
Epi

I should be dark green btw, again, I've already lock cleared myself so it's strange to me no one has picked up on it yet
if you keep saying you’ve lock cleared yourself, aliens come down from space and rip you apart or something

This looks also good

Page 7 has a lot of discussion between DS and Epi about postcounts and a DS vote from epi, I think those's a TR for epi but they could be a deepwolf since

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:19 am epi is very cunning as scum.

That's not our problem for a nowthough, I think it is ok to TR epi

Reading whole game but I want to post my thoughts about first 5 pages (next posts after) in the light of new info we learned~

DS. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:31 pm Fyi If Duskfall hasn't town telled to me by end of day then he is just scum

Dusk have already towntold before the moment DS posted this, the fact that DS didn't try to convince others this is Dusk's town meta already makes Dusk confirmed town

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:11 pm If there's a vanilla role pm nanook would definitely give it to scum and I have seen ds try this kind of stunt as both alignments so it means nothing to me

And if that + this doesn't make Dusk IC, I don't know what does~

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:05 am POE is leetic, tony, jack

everyone else has given me reason to townread them

gg see yall next game

I still feel weirded out from this post, townread everyone except no posters and person who is suspected by everyone

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:23 pm It is possible there are multiple mafia teams and/or 3p i think, my role power is knowing when it is lylo or mylo. When i die the amount of scum alive is also revealed. Might as well claim that now I'm a pr that can probably die and not matter

When is ever DKDKlo or MyLo in a game with 2nd mafia team or 3rd party? Never unless one party is dead since they would kill each other

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:11 pm mac/ds would be funny but nah

If mac is scum, no way nutella is also scum~ No balls enough to group partners like this I think

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:39 pm
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:23 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm Your power, mostly — the number of scum will be revealed upon death implies a changing number of scum.
Why?
I just thought it does. I dunno. It’s not 9-2, is what I’m saying, and the way that power works makes me think it’s not 8-3 either. Therefore...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:05 pm Well I'm not vanilla so I wouldn't know, but also it kinda seems like you're doing a sketchy angleshooty thing that you shouldn't do
he’s probably making up the whole thing, I think

I just feel that setup speculation seems townie and calling out DS as fake is townie~

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:14 pm DS, this is either severe angleshooting and you know it, or you’re faking. I’m choosing the more charitable option. I’ll call it NAI cause I’m nice. Let’s get on with the game.

This is even a better look for TSP~ Really thinking TSP considered it to be an angleshoot

Idt un2 rn

I will read soon, sorry I was busy~

I am platonic lovers with mac, DKDK'ing Mac will solve all of our problems~
Vote: Macdougall

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:28 pm
DS. wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:19 pm Dropping where I am at before I run out posts
Town
Dusk
Dunya
Jiwon
Nutella

Null to scum
Tony
Jack
LC

Poe:
Leetic
Mac
Epi

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 pm DS - Not lynching today (I don't lynch new people Day 1)
And yet you're on me day 1
Nutella is the one that doesn't belong in the top group. He had no engagements with her at all. Epi is probably town because he tilted DS a bit. My POE is the middle 3 plus nutella.
Well I know I'm town so I know he simply had TMI on me. IMO Jiwon is the one that really doesn't fit.

Well I know I'm town so I know he simply had TMI on me. IMO Jiwon is the one that really doesn't fit.

Also I know GTacc, he is a cool guy from Mafia451 that hosts Turkish games, I was in one of them

Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:12 pm Anyone know about the album and can tell if flavour solve is possible?

Maybe rock n roll suicide is mafia? That seems mafiaey name for a song

Does voting now do anything?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:56 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:49 pm ok, that was bad. i'm just so

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:50 pm poe:
mac
epi
nutella
LC
Explain these two posts s'il vous plaît.

Those are the posts that prove dunya is town and why we should never reconsider it, also you are the silver plate!

Anyway, I won't just say :I am town" with nothing behind it, I literally created the most suspicion against DS and basically hammered him, if you want I can quote my posts but I'm going to sleep, soo~
Good night, everyone~~

Wait I forgot we can post at nights lol

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:28 pm lol, i love jiwon. i want her to play in all the games.

Hahaha thanks, but why~?

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

Oww yes :3

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:20 pm why would leetic tag that on when talking to their lover?

I don't find talking like that to your lover weird at all~

If DS is scum though, it is a prettay good deal

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:52 pm I wanted to entertain scum dunya here but I can tell she genuinely suspects me so I'm gonna go ahead and say she's never scum here

And no dunya I'm not trying to pocket you lol, lynch me if you must but we will have words
Why do you want to do that?

(While I’m posting I just wanna day that I hate post count restrictions. I like quoting a single post and talking about it. I like telling jokes. Not being able to do these things freely cramps my style and affects my tone. It’s also much easier to break a “no more than x posts” rule than any other rule. I suggest dropping post restrictions an hour before eod to prevent game effecting overposting if that isn’t already a thing.)

The day is ending and you are not even close to post restriction

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:11 pm If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Are you lovers with DS?

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]

@TonyStarkPrime why are you not voting?

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:48 pm
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:35 pmexcept
Because I said except instead of expect?
Because I asked 2 people are they town?
Because I jumped to macdougall?

Hoxy is it because I forgot to but "~" in my post~?

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:35 pmexcept

Because I said except instead of expect?
Because I asked 2 people are they town?
Because I jumped to macdougall?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:45 pm
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:44 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:43 pm
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:41 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:40 pm that jowin post pinged me a little
Pinged you in what way?
it was slightly scummy, why do you think that is?
I gave a clue?
If you can tell me why i think it is scummy it would no longer be scummy

DKDK?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:43 pm
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:41 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:40 pm that jowin post pinged me a little
Pinged you in what way?
it was slightly scummy, why do you think that is?

I gave a clue?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:40 pm that jowin post pinged me a little

Pinged you in what way?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:38 am plurality at EOD

I remember someone (dünya?) mentioning majority only DKDK but there are also plurality? Why would you think that~?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:21 pm LC vote someone else I'm town you scallywag

Why are you town? You can't just say you are town and except people to unvote you, that's borderline narcisstic.
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Let's see posts at bottom

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:48 pm Gonna nip this in the bud, no I am not ziggy or a pr, I actually tried to clear myself based off of wording in what I assumed was a cut and pasted vanilla role pm

That's what

, sorry. Flavor! Was. With the flavor being vanilla

Just trying to not get modkilled so I didn't post it exactly lol

Anyone who has seen me play knows that I will try to auto clear myself as town any way possible

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:11 pm If there's a vanilla role pm nanook would definitely give it to scum and I have seen ds try this kind of stunt as both alignments so it means nothing to me

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:12 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:11 pm If there's a vanilla role pm nanook would definitely give it to scum and I have seen ds try this kind of stunt as both alignments so it means nothing to me
This is fair.

I'm still lock town though

But dusk said you do that as both alignments... Why are you town?

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:16 pm Happy to move TSP into my high deep greens.

Deep greens:
Dusk
DS.
Tony
Jack
Jiwon

My piss yellow list:
Epi
Nutella
LC

My shady list:
Leetic
Mac

I agree but I'm not sure on Jack and DS. They are my face yellow to me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:01 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Spoiler: show

What tissue is this?

Mac seems unworky and not leading, I would DKDK him. leetic also disappeared but I think I should DKDK Mac. [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

I'm back~

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm Your power, mostly — the number of scum will be revealed upon death implies a changing number of scum.

Why?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:49 pm Long con its not to late to pretend you were meming don't go down this road

Who is long con?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:24 am I didn't even read what the sides were about

I saw you being on this thread for more than a couple of minutes before you made a post and you didn't read~?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:35 pm Why is it not VOLO for vote or lose?

Vololo~

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] are you the letter U? Because I love U~

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:23 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:16 am My read on leetic is microscopic but asking for partners doesn't make sense because I can say anyone could be partners with him except for like dunya and nutella. It's not like everyone stated a scumread on leetic, you know~?
It's not that everyone had a scumread on me. It's that no one made any significant efforts to change the thread climate when it was against me (e.g. by defending me or trying to go after a different target).

That was what I initially thought but it is not unlikely for scum to watch and do nothing about it since they'd have to wager their credibility in case you really get lynched. And we are in like just 3rd page at most, there is a saying here, "Many things can born before sunrise"~

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:16 am It's not even like everyone stated a scumread on leetic, you know~?

I added one word to my last post, I also want to say "I can't have partners I am scumread by everyone" is an overreaction~

My read on leetic is microscopic but asking for partners doesn't make sense because I can say anyone could be partners with him except for like dunya and nutella. It's not like everyone stated a scumread on leetic, you know~?

To be honest, I'm not a fan of whole "this is town, take it to grave" thing when it is really just a gutread just on a post that is unrelated to game and don't have anything like meta behind it, and I hate when someone goes like "I've read all of the openings, this is most scummy VOTE: MOST SCUMMY OPENING PERSON" when everyone has at least like 15 posts, it is stupid do ignore all of the other posts and think reading solely based on opening when it is just something like "Hello everyone" is a good idea. MS stats says "greeting everyone openings" are more significantly scum than town for newbies but I don't think anyone here is a newbie? That being said, scummy things can be said in openings or first posts. My problem is with just focusing on first posts.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~
He was attempting to provide context to what seems like at best a joke wagon and at worst a yolo lynch

I think memeing in response to that is actually perfectly placed

I agree joking is fine but I didn't find it funny :< Nevertheless, to each their own~

Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~

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