The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:13 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:09 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:57 pm imagine needing to sort a peeked member of the town
Imagine someone peeked town playing this anti-town and then being upset when people wolf read them...
im not playing anti-town, this is your own wrong opinion. ive been heavily contriubing to a ton of stuff

i would argue that wanting to kill members of the town is in fact whats anti-town, so, pot calling kettle black etc

See, here's the thing Tutuu, I don't think you're town. So me pushing you here, for me, is pro-town. You think I'm wrong, but that's all you offer is "you're wrong", "michelle is wrong". You don't offer solutions, you don't try to work with people, you just say words.

If you're peeked town I expect you to put on your big person pants and LEAD TOWN. If you're so green PLAY like it. Being confirmed town (which also, why aren't you dead?) is a responsibility you're actively shirking.
Like ok, I've seen Tim play peeked town, he's terrifyingly good. I've seen Radish peeked town. Same deal.
I've been peeked town, played my arse off trying to solve, push people to get their alignments spewed.

You're doing none of the things confirmed townies do. Instead you're kvetching b/c people still suspect you, in a game that's clearly got more role trickery than most, and in ways that are extremely hard to keep track of AND to solve through.

Without mechanics you're like LOCK wolf to me. So think on that for a bit I guess. The only reason I've been putting you in town buckets is because enough people have said tutuu is town via mechanics BUT I think those mechanical reads are wrong, and now that people are starting to explore those possibilities instead of solving and working you're just unhappy people want to wolf read you.

Stop, please.
IF you're town, be town! Solve things, work to find and bag wolves. If you're actually peeked town then DO something with it. Don't coast on "I'm peeked so whatever".
THAT is anti-town and I'll die on this hill if needs be

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:13 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:09 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:57 pm imagine needing to sort a peeked member of the town
Imagine someone peeked town playing this anti-town and then being upset when people wolf read them...
im not playing anti-town, this is your own wrong opinion. ive been heavily contriubing to a ton of stuff

i would argue that wanting to kill members of the town is in fact whats anti-town, so, pot calling kettle black etc

oh look, tutuu calling someone else wrong b/c she doesn't like what they say.
Maybe, instead of just calling people wrong, and complaining you could do town things?

I want a tutuu flip today

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:57 pm imagine needing to sort a peeked member of the town

Imagine someone peeked town playing this anti-town and then being upset when people wolf read them...

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:53 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:35 pm If tutuu is a wolf then she's exactly godfather or she's a wolf with kyle. We know kyle wasn't messed with due to the shot with nook. We know Tim wasn't simply role blocked and this was a scum kill causing a fake flip on nook because Tim has claimed his kill gets refunded. Nobody else has claimed or taken responsibility for the shot on nook. Most likely I believe kyle really did steal the shot from Tim because I remember him heavily hinting at it the day before the Nook kill.

If fake flips are a thing then surely we should be able to scub away and reveal the real flips because idk how we're meant to solve the game if we can't trust the flips.

@Michelle - you've said you'd provide a novel on why tutuu is scum a few times. Please provide a case.

@tutuu - please can you remove Michelle from ignore if you still do? If you're town, I completely get your frustration and annoyance, but we need everybody to communicate with each other (now more than ever) and it isn't really helpful just ignoring another person.
The novel will wait until tomorrow but from the top of my head i know few things
- tutuu had/has all game a strong pockety attitude and if this doesn't work a full Ate mode to reject any scum read addressed at her. This is not a towny activity
- she put me in top town without any reason in her first reads, which implies tmi
- her rainbow reads followed the thread consensus iirc, and I think that rainbow is lamist
- after few scum flips and the successful infiltration in mechanically cleared players her activity dropped and all she did was to defend herself
- her activity in town's help - posting flipped roles and mechanics of the game may very well be agenda-y
- if her activity would be towny she would be dead long ago
- how many roles to alterate the poll votes are in this game? Made, you, tutuu, something is not right here, these roles are not all in village's hands, if the claims are true.
If her claim is fake, however, it is more telling.
I know thete are more but is Sunday, 9 pm and i need some rl time
- tutuu had/has all game a strong pockety attitude and if this doesn't work a full Ate mode to reject any scum read addressed at her. This is not a towny activity

this is your own wrong opinion. i am not pocketing anyone since im town. its hypocritical of u to dismiss frustration as "ate bad" considering the way you played yourself in the most recent game ive seen u play - bread mafia. "this is not a towny activity" is also clearly false, and you should know that better than anyone

- she put me in top town without any reason in her first reads, which implies tmi

i put you in top towns because i attained a townread on you. you not understanding my read does not necessarily mean that i have tmi

- her rainbow reads followed the thread consensus iirc, and I think that rainbow is lamist

my rainbow reads do not always follow the thread consensus, thats a ridiculous statement. you thinking that my rainbow is lamist is also demonstrably wrong, i have done it as town before

- after few scum flips and the successful infiltration in mechanically cleared players her activity dropped and all she did was to defend herself

there is nothing to respond to here. you are assuming that you have reached the conclusion. the only thing i can respond to this statement is that you're wrong. i didnt inflitrate anything since im not mafia. my activity has been turbulent, i would say the same thing applies for almost everyone

- her activity in town's help - posting flipped roles and mechanics of the game may very well be agenda-y

is hypocritical of you to say considering you've been spamming vote counts. it may be agenday or it may not be. just because something might be scummy does not mean its valid reason for u to list it as to why u think someone is >rand scummy unless ur arguing that specific thing is >rand scummy. "tutuu might be helping town by making mech posts" is not a valid scumread, the valid scumread would be "i think tutuu is more likely to make mech posts as mafia than as town"

- how many roles to alterate the poll votes are in this game? Made, you, tutuu, something is not right here, these roles are not all in village's hands, if the claims are true.
If her claim is fake, however, it is more telling.

technically i dont alternate the poll, i pick the tie. instead of a 50/50 coinflip i get the choice. i dont affect the poll

there @Justplayingitcool, i already know the response that i am about to receive, so good job for tricking me to waste my time writing this post

all of your responses are basically "nuh uh" or "you're wrong" or "no I'm not doing that thing"

pro tip: this is not how to be town. This is how to be caught for wrong reasons wolf.

Made was always going to be a shot.
If you think I have wolf equity I'd advocate to solve that sooner rather than later.
Like wise with Tim, if you think he's got wolf equity solve that sooner than LYLO.

I don't think Syn has wolf equity, nor do I think Hyena, Tutuu, Kyle, or LC does.

You could argue that Dizzy has wolf equity, you could also argue Michelle does.

Basically I'd take off of the table the following people:
hyena
syn
tutuu
kyle
LC
Myself, but I can understand why others wouldn't.

I'd have to have a very convincing argument made to consider Tim as wolf.
I'd have to have a convincing (note not very convincing) argument to consider Dizzy or JPIC as wolf.
Even less convincing to think about Michelle.

That basically leaves me with Made as the "obvs wolf" and if that's wrong I'd start looking long and hard at Michelle, Dizzy, JPIC, Tim in about that order I think.
If I missed someone it's b/c I'm scrolling up and down to see the poll list, not b/c nefarious reasons

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:54 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:51 pm that doesn't have to be an If statement
I trust nothing until I see a mod posted flip.

I meant we can still suck even if made flips wolf.

that doesn't have to be an If statement

Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:37 pm but yeah, uh, I don't actually think tutuu is scum. LC is prob fine. Kill Tim then kill HK. Personally, I'd go for someone else before Alison, but that cuz i still don't see why she needs to die. but yeah.
great game ____ & _____!! (i technically can't mention their names or i'm complying with the curse)

see y'all on the flip side

1000 post in one game is new record, and third new record in a row

but yeah, see ya later nerds

It is finished.

o7

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:56 pm @hollowkatt

Two things to hopefully make you feel better:

1) Sometimes town Tim is genuinely clueless and does not take over the game specifically for that reason. Wolf Tim is never clueless and will pretty much always take over the game.

2) You may have noticed that my town playstyle is not a terrific good fit with the Syndicats. Taking over a game here is really fucking hard work for me. So if town is gonna win by me taking over and spiking the last wolf it is going to happen later, not sooner. F5 maybe. F12...just not. At this point I'm more focused on just not getting mislynched for not being Syndicatty enough.

thanks, appreciated.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.

I'd allow kyle, jpic, and syn in that last slot. probably in kyle/syn/jpic order

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:46 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:40 pm If you want to yeet Michelle, answer this: who is her main suspicion?
tutuu and has been for days
Right. How could the last (?) wolf laser-focus on a mech-cleared villager for so long?

because nobody cares enough to call her on it?
Like ok, assume Michelle is a wolf, and she's been hyperfocused on Tutuu for days. Nobody is susing Michelle based on that tutuu read, nobody is pushing her on it, we're all just like "oh michelle your tunnel is so quaint" and then we forget about it.
Keeping the "push" as it were on tutuu absolves Michelle from solving other people, she can just keep defaulting to tutuu wolf as long as we're not pressuring her for other things.

Maybe we ought to do that, no?

@Michelle gimmie wolf reads that aren't tutuu please and thank you

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:42 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:32 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:30 pm
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hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm

I'll pick Syn
I'm getting a little scared of Syn tho.
fair. I'm scared of both of you.
@Hyena why are you putting made in the town core
Because I'm flipping this game upside down. Made was on the bottom, so now, I'm putting him on the top (except for me, of course -- I'm in charge here now).

Also, we're probably chopping one of JPIC or Dizzy today. Whichever stays will -probably- get a momentary reprieve from getting chopped the next day, which is when we'll probably chop one of Kyle or Syn if the game doesn't end. Those are the plans for the next two day phases.
are you high
What if I said yes? :3
could i have some :'(

i think my edibles must be expired by now

that does seem to happen after a bit.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:40 pm If you want to yeet Michelle, answer this: who is her main suspicion?

tutuu and has been for days

Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:07 pm @Timsup2nothin the point of that game is: I think you're solidly town, like just unimpeachable, and I know you can take over games.
My concern about you is that you're not. You're content to just exist.
I know you've claimed shots, and the shots you've claimed make sense. I don't dispute that.
What I don't like is that my main perception of you is "you're all all wrong" that you had going for several days while we were chopping wolves.

Suddenly, when you can't impact things by voting and pressuring we start chopping townies. I see you railing vs made but I don't see you actually burying him like I know that town!Tim can do.

With Syn: My concern there is all sorts of tinfoil and doesn't make sense, I think. Like He's playing a really townie game, and he's made the right chops at the right time. It's basically some fear that he's been the mastermind behind those, aka busing.

Like GTH I have Syn as town, and if we (the three of us) make F3 I'm fucked trying to figure out which of you two it is.

I don't think we get there tbh, I think Made is the wolf we're looking for.

i'm also concerned about Michelle. Like of everyone else in the thread Michelle is the one I have the most fear about.
I will off myself right here right now. I am civvie willing and ready to risk it all on some petty type

-k-

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:58 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:50 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:37 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 pm I'm kinda good with Hyena being in charge here.
wanna play a game?
whatcha got?
The game is: you're peeked green
YEAAAH! HK and TIM towncore! Let's go!

Here's about where I'm at:
townies:
HK
dizzy
hyena
tim
syn
lc
kyle
jpic
tutuu

here there be wolves:
made
michelle

not either:
alison

@Timsup2nothin the point of that game is: I think you're solidly town, like just unimpeachable, and I know you can take over games.
My concern about you is that you're not. You're content to just exist.
I know you've claimed shots, and the shots you've claimed make sense. I don't dispute that.
What I don't like is that my main perception of you is "you're all all wrong" that you had going for several days while we were chopping wolves.

Suddenly, when you can't impact things by voting and pressuring we start chopping townies. I see you railing vs made but I don't see you actually burying him like I know that town!Tim can do.

With Syn: My concern there is all sorts of tinfoil and doesn't make sense, I think. Like He's playing a really townie game, and he's made the right chops at the right time. It's basically some fear that he's been the mastermind behind those, aka busing.

Like GTH I have Syn as town, and if we (the three of us) make F3 I'm fucked trying to figure out which of you two it is.

I don't think we get there tbh, I think Made is the wolf we're looking for.

i'm also concerned about Michelle. Like of everyone else in the thread Michelle is the one I have the most fear about.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:50 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:37 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 pm I'm kinda good with Hyena being in charge here.
wanna play a game?
whatcha got?

The game is: you're peeked green

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:30 pm
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hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:49 pm
There's 11 players remaining. If the five of us are town, then we only need to find ONE more person that's town, excluding @Alison (though Alison, if you want to help out with this, you're free to join, too). Who should be the last person we include in our towncore?

@Timsup2nothin
@Made
@Long Con
@hollowkatt
I’d say it’s always Long Con as town. Tim is probably scum, HK could be scum, Long Con is almost always town
MADE! NO! WE'RE A TOWN CORE! PICK SOMEONE -NOT- IN THOSE FOUR!!!
I'll pick Syn
I'm getting a little scared of Syn tho.
fair. I'm scared of both of you.
@Hyena why are you putting made in the town core
Because I'm flipping this game upside down. Made was on the bottom, so now, I'm putting him on the top (except for me, of course -- I'm in charge here now).

Also, we're probably chopping one of JPIC or Dizzy today. Whichever stays will -probably- get a momentary reprieve from getting chopped the next day, which is when we'll probably chop one of Kyle or Syn if the game doesn't end. Those are the plans for the next two day phases.

what if I were to say to you: I'm not moving off of made.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 pm I'm kinda good with Hyena being in charge here.

wanna play a game?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:30 pm
Spoiler: show
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:49 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:47 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:46 pm Okay, I've had it. I'm bored AND annoyed at how the game is going. Too much talking about mechanics, not enough people doing stuff. So fuck it, let's do it.

@Timsup2nothin @Made
Let's make a towncore together. Right now. Let's flip this game upside down.
@Long Con and @hollowkatt
You two can join, too.
There's 11 players remaining. If the five of us are town, then we only need to find ONE more person that's town, excluding @Alison (though Alison, if you want to help out with this, you're free to join, too). Who should be the last person we include in our towncore?

@Timsup2nothin
@Made
@Long Con
@hollowkatt
I’d say it’s always Long Con as town. Tim is probably scum, HK could be scum, Long Con is almost always town
MADE! NO! WE'RE A TOWN CORE! PICK SOMEONE -NOT- IN THOSE FOUR!!!
I'll pick Syn
I'm getting a little scared of Syn tho.

fair. I'm scared of both of you.
@Hyena why are you putting made in the town core

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:46 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:59 pm @Long Con

Who did you track?
Hollowkatt targeted no one. Alison is off the poll.

This is correct btw

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:49 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:47 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:46 pm Okay, I've had it. I'm bored AND annoyed at how the game is going. Too much talking about mechanics, not enough people doing stuff. So fuck it, let's do it.

@Timsup2nothin @Made
Let's make a towncore together. Right now. Let's flip this game upside down.
@Long Con and @hollowkatt
You two can join, too.
There's 11 players remaining. If the five of us are town, then we only need to find ONE more person that's town, excluding @Alison (though Alison, if you want to help out with this, you're free to join, too). Who should be the last person we include in our towncore?

@Timsup2nothin
@Made
@Long Con
@hollowkatt
I’d say it’s always Long Con as town. Tim is probably scum, HK could be scum, Long Con is almost always town
MADE! NO! WE'RE A TOWN CORE! PICK SOMEONE -NOT- IN THOSE FOUR!!!

I'll pick Syn

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:43 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:41 pm Okay, fine...no kill Kyle, but I'm just gonna kill made. Reading the thread yesterday it was like "if it isn't Wilgy it's Made" from top to bottom and side to side. I genuinely had no choice but to do the due diligent town vig thing and try to shoot him. If y'all go haring off in some wild new direction today just because he shrugged off a vig shot and had some confusing power interaction with Kyle you gotta go without me.

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

By the way, if you think w!Tim shot the only person who fully understood how town sided I have been all game long, get help. I didn't kill Radishes and I'm not a wolf. Period.
this is exactly what w!Tim would say

Probably. But also what t!Tim would say

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:33 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:20 pm I have BTSC with Wilgy today
Can confirm this was my intention. I remembered someone mentioning maybe tracking me or HK, and I was worried that mafia would use that to maybe kill Tim, who I said I was initially going to give a BTSC to, and frame me for it.

you're good

[VOTE: made] aubergineripperoni MR, sorry Wiggly

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:51 pm agree with dizzy. the one thing I hate most in mafia is when townies lie to me. because I expect scum to lie to me, but townies lying make it super hard to trust
And yet you've played with Tim...how many times?

there's a reason I default wolf read him

agree with dizzy. the one thing I hate most in mafia is when townies lie to me. because I expect scum to lie to me, but townies lying make it super hard to trust

guaranteed there's a wolf between the two of them.

just runner runner through wiggly and made.

@Long Con @tutuu vote someone that matters, Tim ain't it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:12 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:11 pm Well, he’s more up to date anyway. Also, doesn’t someone else have Nutella on the line? If not, it would be good to talk to Nutella too
jack did

jack got deaded tho
I want to speak to the manager

bad news: there is no manager to speak to
good news: you're the manager now

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:07 pm Hyena, you should make one with Wilgy IF he flips town, so we can know what the fuck is going on

that doesn't suck

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:59 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:31 pm @DrWilgy just to be clear, if we yeet made instead tonight and I choose stefan instead of carl, what happens? what's the worst thing that could happen
Don't do that. May as well reveal all since I might not have time to be back before eod.

My power is to turn someone into Carl or myself into Stefan. I've stated multiple times I won't Stefan due to a negative.
~Carl is a rolechecker simple and clean
~Stefan is abit more weird. Stefan can btsc someone, BUT whoever I'm with in BTSC will flip red regardless of alignment.

I didn't want scum to know my full power in chance they start messing with flips via Stefan BTSC, but oh well at this point.

I hope that I'm the only power role that can affect flip outcomes. I'd think it'd be very powerful in scum hands.

what is btsc?

The Tim voters should know better by now. and that they don't is problematic at best, wolf indicative at worst.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:58 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:53 pm I want Wilgy to be the wolf precisely because he's the only one not very deep.
I could just be Wilgy. I just feel like his claim and all is messy and weird, in a way that's "weird" for scum. Would he just lie about getting the result of my role when targeting Michelle? Why? Did he just mix us up? At the same time, I leaned real 3p on Ted exactly because I felt his claim was really strange to make as mafia. So clearly, I can't assume others would do what I would've done.

Wilgy has unresolved mech in getting my role.
He forgot to use his action last night even when we told him to do what he could to clear himself.

I find his post about "Just yeet me so we can finally start yeeting the correct people" very questionable, as we have definitely been yeeting exactly the correct people the whole game.

There's a lot of AtE that I'm weak for. I had an inkling of Sloonei whiteknighting Wilgy as well, but it definitely wasn't as strong as 112. I'm not sure.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:00 pm Also, if Wilgy is going to go "please just hammer me" and not solve for the rest of the game, that does not inspire me and doesn't even seem like a town attitude to me.

basically all of this.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:36 pm i mean, again, its not hard to find anyone as town right now. the last wolf is deep, so

what do you mean the last wolf is deep?

they have The Fear

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:55 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:10 pm and radishes is my mason br0, we don’t go there

yeah, that post concerns me, but like I'd rather have made/wiggly over radish today.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:47 am Made definitely has the wackiest claim so far

cool, lets just do that then.
[VOTE: made] aubergine

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:10 am is there any 2 people you could find yourself in a final 3 with and not know which one to vote?

me tim syn immediately comes to mind.
me tutuu michelle would be tough too.
basically any f3 where I'm expected to cast the right vote is a bad f3

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:43 pmwhat is dadw

dead air dead wolf
just like dadv is dead air dead villager

is this dadv or dadw?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:47 pm HK, you are a real comics fan like me, not like whatever Syn is. Trust me, if you want House of M-level greatness, this is for you.

I'll check it out!

Made wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:30 pm Imo, Age of Ultron was one of my least favorite marvel movies, and WandaVision redeems it. deff worth that watch, especially with the season ending tomorrow so you can binge it

I'll be doing that!

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:03 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:58 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:49 pm am I the only one who just can't stand wanda?
Why?
I think the actress portrayal is really one dimensional, at least in the movies. I haven't watched wandavision yet though. I think the scriptwriters are grappling poorly with the age old question of "how do you challenge a character that can literally re-write the fabric of reality with a thought" and they're leaning on trauma as a crutch.

Made wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:51 pm I get it HK, gonna avoid spoilers, but like she's deff a flawed character, in an needy kinda way that can be too much. Trauma does that to folk tho
I've seen the movies, not wandavision though. Yeah, she's flawed and there's a LOT of trauma in her past, I just feel like the way she's written is very one dimensional and leans too heavily into the "grimdark" instead of the fantastical reality bending powers
I was always disappointed with her movie portrayals. They had her as a telekinetic with a dash of telepathy, as though they had her confused with Jean Grey. WandaVision really blossoms her power into a more appropriate House of M kind of level. She's still flawed, and I'm fine with it - the show is absolutely fascinating and enthralling, like nothing I have seen. Every second of every episode is delicious candy to me. It will definitely win many awards across the awards spectrum.

I'll give it a go! From the trailer I saw, and adds that I see on youtube occasionally it looks really good, and very different from the movies

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:49 pm am I the only one who just can't stand wanda?
Why?

I think the actress portrayal is really one dimensional, at least in the movies. I haven't watched wandavision yet though. I think the scriptwriters are grappling poorly with the age old question of "how do you challenge a character that can literally re-write the fabric of reality with a thought" and they're leaning on trauma as a crutch.

Made wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:51 pm I get it HK, gonna avoid spoilers, but like she's deff a flawed character, in an needy kinda way that can be too much. Trauma does that to folk tho

I've seen the movies, not wandavision though. Yeah, she's flawed and there's a LOT of trauma in her past, I just feel like the way she's written is very one dimensional and leans too heavily into the "grimdark" instead of the fantastical reality bending powers

am I the only one who just can't stand wanda?

You can drive me nowhere if you want to.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:01 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:57 pm JPIC does your "let's not let the votes get too high thing" result in an earlier end?

If so, chop me baby.
wdym?
I want out. Hammer me like you still love me.
I know this kind of thing isn't supposed to sway me, but it did. Wilgy is gonna flip town.

Chop the AtE

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