The Syndicate

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:27 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:26 am It's okay it's on me. I've just always believed in my ability to find town and make the game fun for everyone but lately I've been being a bitch and protecting woofs a lot.

Like Mac here. Or Cobalt in champs. And that was like the one part of my game I believed in. Ig I also believe I'm good at talking my way out of SRs when I'm motivated too.

I don't think you've made this game worse at any point

And town reading wolf Mac just happens lmao

lord knows I've gotten suckered many times lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:56 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:53 am In the world where you're town I think your weakest clears are lily and wigly and neon. All three of them are highly skilled wolves and the reasons you're clearing them are rather flimsy

Can you talk about Neon more and their wolf game

I don't think they play EoD like they did as w/w with Mac. Do you?

I hate how egocentric this sounds in my head but I'm typing it anyways. I think it's likely that at least one wolf who isn't Mac followed me onto your wagon. I was the one who started the Esooa flash wagon, it gained some traction and with as vociferous as I was about defending Mac and given how D1 went down I think it's possible that it emboldened neon to be more Mac positive than she otherwise would have needed to be.
But I can totally see arguments for the other side.

I wish I had a better argument or some concrete evidence to point to as opposed to just thinking about things as they relate to me. Of the clears that risiinq has that I called weak Neon is perhaps the strongest one, but also the one that I have the most concerns about in terms of wolfing skill.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:39 am I don't have a real answer

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:40 am can i know what u think about my poe

So when you say this:

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:05 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:59 pm @risiinq- sheep me. Its one in Jack/Hk 100% of the times, if not both

no. i am hypothesizing a nook/hk dichotomy

What you really mean is this:

HK is a wolf
Nanook is town

Otherwise you'd have already thought of how your world view would look the other way around.
That's not a dichotomy that can be explored, that's a world you're presenting as "factual as far as you know" which isn't actually doing any solving.

As far as your POE goes I think at absolute best you've got 2 wolves in there, likely 1 at most, entirely possible that it's zero tbh.

I don't think Esooa/Mac can be paired in any world. If they are that was some fantastic theater and wolf chat has to be either salty as fuck or full of laughs.
Likewise if Nanook is a wolf I don't think he hitches his wagon to me and then cajoles Mac to join in. The main part of why I suspected nanook during D1 and into D2 until I stopped paying attention to his posts is that he's trying to use meta that isn't applicable here, and if it was Santy would have jumped on that and hammered it, so would have Jack. which also tells me that Jack and nanook aren't paired (knowingly).

If the team consists of multiples of jack, nanook, mac, esooa I would have been dead and buried D1, Ender would not have gone over. They have too much meta about my wolf game that they could have used.

In the world where you're a wolf you're calling your partner town.
In the world where you're town I think your weakest clears are lily and wigly and neon. All three of them are highly skilled wolves and the reasons you're clearing them are rather flimsy. They could have counted on me going over D1, shifted into a weird state where it was clear I wasn't going to be the D2 AND I was defending Mac, which could save me for the D3, which would explain why I ended with only nanook on my wagon.

I think nanook is a true believer in the HK is wolfing case, this does not feel manufactured any more. If it was I think he would have abandoned it by now, but here he is with his continuation vote and at that point he's just shitting the bed if he's wolfing. He's got next to no thread presence and/or credit, he can't really be useful to create cases and make pushes without relating them to me in some way. I'm his albatross if he's a wolf.

In conclusion I think you're either a wolf or you've got really bad clears up there, which tells me you're a wolf.
Soz

Even after nanook drops his big case, with discord screenshots, it wasn't enough to get me over. And those 4 know my town game is no slouch even after going on a bender of cussing.

I think your POE is bad, basically.

I see how you argued yourself into it, I just can't agree with it for the reasons I laid out above.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:35 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:21 am

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:05 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:59 pm @risiinq- sheep me. Its one in Jack/Hk 100% of the times, if not both

no. i am hypothesizing a nook/hk dichotomy

why? Specifically I want you to lay out why nanook, as wolf, would be pushing HK, as town, when there are other, perhaps vastly better (especially after the hyperposting started) players that they could have been pushing?

I get it if you think it's wolf HK and town Nanook, but if you flip me I'll be green so I want to hear you lay out the reverse of what you think is true.

do you think nook is pushing you in good faith? i find it hard to wrap around how stuck he is on ur slot

I'll hold my answer till you answer the question

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:05 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:59 pm @risiinq- sheep me. Its one in Jack/Hk 100% of the times, if not both

no. i am hypothesizing a nook/hk dichotomy

why? Specifically I want you to lay out why nanook, as wolf, would be pushing HK, as town, when there are other, perhaps vastly better (especially after the hyperposting started) players that they could have been pushing?

I get it if you think it's wolf HK and town Nanook, but if you flip me I'll be green so I want to hear you lay out the reverse of what you think is true.

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:18 pm Like, the reason I came so mad is cuz people just threw ris/Mac interactions from the past day and just twisted it to fit a narrative or just straight uo ignored them? Just to put a lazy vote in Ris. And that is even when I at EoD presented a compelling case ln why the FLIPPED WOLF has and insane equity with other slot who hasnt been towny AT ALL.

And somehow ris is the lead wagon? Like wtf

do you seriously think I go that hard defending Mac, starting the Esooa counterwagon with minutes left in teh game day, and then end there if I'm a wolf with mac?

That's like putting out a big blinking sign that says "I am a wolf you complete and utter jacket"

alternately this is all wifom and you should have killed me D1. you'll never know

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:09 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:09 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:00 pm Can Nook and hk just have their love-hate sex already.

The sexual tension is a lot

Sorry I draw the line at antagonistic flirting

Then stop all the sexual fireworks.

I need a cig when I'm reading yall.

smoke 'em if you got 'em

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:00 pm Can Nook and hk just have their love-hate sex already.

The sexual tension is a lot

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:05 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:00 pm still don't think HK is a wolf

I think mac treated him almost exactly how he said mafia would probably treat scumHK lol

the best tip I ever got regarding wolfing is tell as little lies as possible.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:49 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:47 pm [VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine
#obligatory

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:46 pm like if anyone at this point in the game pushes me/esooa i will just assume they're doing it in bad faith. mac tried so hard to discredit esooa and push her towards a ML this entire game

I'm going to need you to explain this

It was funny in my head so I wrote it. You'll notice my vote in the poll didn't change though

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine
#obligatory

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:46 pm like if anyone at this point in the game pushes me/esooa i will just assume they're doing it in bad faith. mac tried so hard to discredit esooa and push her towards a ML this entire game

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:33 pm I do not believe wolves just sat around to not push me while I was being voted for literally no reason half this game. Santy I think had a decent EoD even if cringe and I re-read some of him and think he's given a lot of good thoughts so is prob town, though I've not read Mac at all btw

HK is just trolling and can't read my posts so voted me and also is probably town because of the n1 things

and Risiinq has done none of that

I'm so incredibly bad at this game right now that I'm just going to sheep either you or Sabi. Hopefully you're both town

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:29 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:27 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:26 pm I'm gonna vote Riisinq and if they flip woof I'm voting HK with the assumption the woods just decided that dropping a nuke on the game thread was a good idea lol xD

you could vote me now and I can go meme in DVC

I could... but I want you to suffer with me instead

I loathe you with the passion of 1000 fiery suns


















jk I luff you

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:26 pm I'm gonna vote Riisinq and if they flip woof I'm voting HK with the assumption the woods just decided that dropping a nuke on the game thread was a good idea lol xD

you could vote me now and I can go meme in DVC

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:11 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:10 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:09 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:08 pm Anyway we got a wolf.

Esooa flashwagon was wolves saving Mac.

I started it, who joined me?
Mac
Neon
I can't remember if there was anyone else.

Jack and snowy

cool
Probs just neon then with another wolf on mac for credit. I still town read Jack. risiinq could be a wolf but I'm not finding them if they are

I don't townread jack


So try again.

Mac was shielding jack a lot

I'm gonna keep town reading Jack. You can make up your own mind.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:11 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:09 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:08 pm Anyway we got a wolf.

Esooa flashwagon was wolves saving Mac.

No, i am not convinced esooa/mac is v/w

....

Ma'am that was blatantly unpaired wagons.

Also your eod was terrible.

risiinq = snowy?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:10 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:09 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:08 pm Anyway we got a wolf.

Esooa flashwagon was wolves saving Mac.

I started it, who joined me?
Mac
Neon
I can't remember if there was anyone else.

Jack and snowy

cool
Probs just neon then with another wolf on mac for credit. I still town read Jack. risiinq could be a wolf but I'm not finding them if they are

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:08 pm Anyway we got a wolf.

Esooa flashwagon was wolves saving Mac.

I started it, who joined me?
Mac
Neon
I can't remember if there was anyone else.

anyways GG Mac and, with all due respect, You're a jerk

I AM THE WORST MAFIA PLAYER EVER

I'm not gay

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:25 pm I thought the day was over honestly until I checked thread just barely but I'm not giving more, if I die you're all literally awful at the game so not my fault

I own my suckage

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:24 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:01 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:52 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:48 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:47 pm it's infinitely more fun to troll nanook than it is to try to solve him

Where are wolves, old-thing? Help Queek. No be troll-thing.

1-2 within achro, esooa, mac, nanook

none within jack, sabi, porscha, wigly, risiinq

1-2 within santy, lilypetal, neon

I would shoot nanook with a dayvig gun if I had one because I have a burning need to know if he's wolf trying to push me off of meta he has or if he's town and believes his read.

I would chop esooa before I chop mac, and before I chop achro, unless mac flips town in which case chop both of them.

That's about where I am Queekers

Very good, pawn-lackey. Talk to Queek about Esooa. Queek thinks Achro and Mac things are town. Queek thought Esooa was town, too, but old-thing and beard-thing both say maybe Esooa have furry wolf-thing tail. Maybe Queek miss something while doing more important tasks, yes-yes.

I did not like how she sheeped the push Nanook started. I think she's been opportunistic and she's painted herself into a worlds corner without really being willing to re-evaluate those worlds. Her tone feels flat to me and there's none of that normal solving hunger I associate with her. It's very viby. If I'm alive tomorrow and you are too I'll pull quotes where I think she's been not town.

With regards to painting herself into corners I mean she's got a strong wolf read on me and a strong wolf read on Mac and while it may look on the surface that we're partnered given how vociferous I've been about town reading Mac he's not reciprocated so if I flip wolf Mac is almost always going down the next day.

Like in no universe is wolf HK going to town read wolf mac as much as I do because again, hard paired from the HK ISO perspective. Very few worlds will wolf HK town read town Mac that hard, again because the most common "next day" response that happens is "of course HK had TMI on Mac".

Sure, town HK could town read wolf Mac that hard, I've been snowed before. I don't think I am.

yeah wolves stopped pushing you because of your good posts like not reading the fucking game

You can't find a single post from this day I wolf read you

You can't

If you're not going to play don't play, you don't need to pretend to by posting bullshit you realize

shhhhh wolf it's ok

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:24 pm DONT KILL ESOOA I WILL LITERALLY CRY

here's an onion to get you started

do the townie thing and flash wagon esooa you plebs

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:21 pm Could yeet Alison. Smells like elf-thing. Too quiet like elf thing. Queek not attracted to elf-things!

always yeet Alison yes

why not esooa?

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine

here's your flash, 9 minutes left get in on the bottom floor

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:10 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:57 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:53 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:50 pm Wagons were me/Mac most of the day and suddenly hk is trying ti shield Mac so much..... Yikes

my town read on mac has never wavered, why is it suddenly strange?

You have him in the highest mafia equity bucket.....

I still don't understand why this is hard to understand.
I think there is minimum one wolf in achro, mac, esooa, and nanook. I town read mac.

What do things have in common?

channeling my inner IAWY and calling it a vibe on the state of the thread itself. I think it would be a town slam fucking dunk if all 4 of those players are town. I think it's still town sided if it's 3 of them. I think it's sticky, and it is sticky, if there's 2 in that bucket. Which brings me back to calling it esooa/nanook and the Mac/Achro thing is really just two strong willed townies talking past each other and not finding a way to work together.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:09 pm i dont really feel like budging tho idk

also my secret read is mac would be more angry about being wagoned as town d2 and wouldnt just be like "sorry town"

but idk if its correct

and my secret read is if mac is a wolf the wolf team is doing everything they can to save him and yet I'm literally the only person shouting to the walls that mac is town and lord knows I'm doing fuck all about changing things

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:01 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:52 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:48 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:47 pm it's infinitely more fun to troll nanook than it is to try to solve him

Where are wolves, old-thing? Help Queek. No be troll-thing.

1-2 within achro, esooa, mac, nanook

none within jack, sabi, porscha, wigly, risiinq

1-2 within santy, lilypetal, neon

I would shoot nanook with a dayvig gun if I had one because I have a burning need to know if he's wolf trying to push me off of meta he has or if he's town and believes his read.

I would chop esooa before I chop mac, and before I chop achro, unless mac flips town in which case chop both of them.

That's about where I am Queekers

Very good, pawn-lackey. Talk to Queek about Esooa. Queek thinks Achro and Mac things are town. Queek thought Esooa was town, too, but old-thing and beard-thing both say maybe Esooa have furry wolf-thing tail. Maybe Queek miss something while doing more important tasks, yes-yes.

I did not like how she sheeped the push Nanook started. I think she's been opportunistic and she's painted herself into a worlds corner without really being willing to re-evaluate those worlds. Her tone feels flat to me and there's none of that normal solving hunger I associate with her. It's very viby. If I'm alive tomorrow and you are too I'll pull quotes where I think she's been not town.

With regards to painting herself into corners I mean she's got a strong wolf read on me and a strong wolf read on Mac and while it may look on the surface that we're partnered given how vociferous I've been about town reading Mac he's not reciprocated so if I flip wolf Mac is almost always going down the next day.

Like in no universe is wolf HK going to town read wolf mac as much as I do because again, hard paired from the HK ISO perspective. Very few worlds will wolf HK town read town Mac that hard, again because the most common "next day" response that happens is "of course HK had TMI on Mac".

Sure, town HK could town read wolf Mac that hard, I've been snowed before. I don't think I am.

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:57 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:53 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:50 pm Wagons were me/Mac most of the day and suddenly hk is trying ti shield Mac so much..... Yikes

my town read on mac has never wavered, why is it suddenly strange?

You have him in the highest mafia equity bucket.....

I still don't understand why this is hard to understand.
I think there is minimum one wolf in achro, mac, esooa, and nanook. I town read mac.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:54 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:50 pm Hk townreading here Mac so strongly doesnt make sense

Its cuz he is an idiot-thing

sure, cause name calling makes it better. good job

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:50 pm Wagons were me/Mac most of the day and suddenly hk is trying ti shield Mac so much..... Yikes

my town read on mac has never wavered, why is it suddenly strange?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:48 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:47 pm it's infinitely more fun to troll nanook than it is to try to solve him

Where are wolves, old-thing? Help Queek. No be troll-thing.

1-2 within achro, esooa, mac, nanook

none within jack, sabi, porscha, wigly, risiinq

1-2 within santy, lilypetal, neon

I would shoot nanook with a dayvig gun if I had one because I have a burning need to know if he's wolf trying to push me off of meta he has or if he's town and believes his read.

I would chop esooa before I chop mac, and before I chop achro, unless mac flips town in which case chop both of them.

That's about where I am Queekers

but like seriously I do strongly think Mac is town and I think his wagon and removal is being driven by the wolf team. He does not feel anything like say the hydra game where his hydra partner was a no-show and he basically end gamed by his lonesome (and I think won) and it's just not the same mac here. This mac is more like town mac to me.

it's infinitely more fun to troll nanook than it is to try to solve him

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:24 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:19 pm y'all haven't seen disconnected dgaf HK yet but you're about to tomorrow
everybody gonna get just random ass suspicions, probabaly starting with achro because alphabetical

Knock it off

ur jealous because you're like 5th on the list

I mean there's still over an hour to go in the game day but people seem dead set on Mac for some reason I don't understand and don't care to go looking for

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:19 pm Why are you threadspewed town hk?

cause by all rights I should have been unanimous wagon today but now it's just nanook which means even wolves aren't/can't push me for "the good of the thread" they have to go on content and my content is good

y'all haven't seen disconnected dgaf HK yet but you're about to tomorrow
everybody gonna get just random ass suspicions, probabaly starting with achro because alphabetical

also I'm threadspewed town now so that's awesome

I'm ride or die that Mac is a miss

when does the day end?

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:41 pm Is there a correct way to ISO? Cuz when I did the post search on Sabi it bringed me up even results from post in other topics wowee. And I hate that quotes just dont let me read the content sabi put in a post wowee

ok.
at the top of your screen, below the syndicate banner you'll see "board index > active mafia games > the hustle"
Click "the Hustle"
You'll see our game listed.
Click the number in the Replies column. This brings up the post count by player screen. Click the number in the posts column to see only the posts from that player in this game.

Alternately find the player you want to ISO in the game thread. Click the "Posts in topic" number.

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:10 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:57 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:56 pm v!hollowkatt as one of the options and that is an exclusive reason for the kill is like never true because wolves have multiple options even if they're wanting to kill someone who is explicity townreading HK and killing someone who doesn't wolf read wolf over.. someone who does is just not how it works. And low posting wolves would explicitly rather kill higher posting and more influential people because the thread influence aspect, which OW had very little of, is already important but even more so then. And then this is all amplified by the fact it's a weird kill as you've said yourself

But cant you apply this fact to like, being more vocal people sussing those slots? Why not kill sabi for example?

sabi, bless their soul, does not have thread impact or pull even with the massive number of posts that they have. If the wolf team was concerned about sabis pull sabi would be dead.

And like, isnt sabi PoE A LOT similar to Visor?

As in Me/Achro/Lily with a lot of sus? Think maybe Mac/Jack too but the three that Visor sussed I remember sabi sussing too, tbh

if true would point more towards a "wolf team that understands what visor is capable of" I would think, which points squarely at myself, mac, achro, esooa, possibly jackofhearts, and potentially you but I'm unsure of your MU experience or if you've played on sites like The Org or CFC.

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:57 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:56 pm v!hollowkatt as one of the options and that is an exclusive reason for the kill is like never true because wolves have multiple options even if they're wanting to kill someone who is explicity townreading HK and killing someone who doesn't wolf read wolf over.. someone who does is just not how it works. And low posting wolves would explicitly rather kill higher posting and more influential people because the thread influence aspect, which OW had very little of, is already important but even more so then. And then this is all amplified by the fact it's a weird kill as you've said yourself

But cant you apply this fact to like, being more vocal people sussing those slots? Why not kill sabi for example?

sabi, bless their soul, does not have thread impact or pull even with the massive number of posts that they have. If the wolf team was concerned about sabis pull sabi would be dead.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:56 pm v!hollowkatt as one of the options and that is an exclusive reason for the kill is like never true because wolves have multiple options even if they're wanting to kill someone who is explicity townreading HK and killing someone who doesn't wolf read wolf over.. someone who does is just not how it works. And low posting wolves would explicitly rather kill higher posting and more influential people because the thread influence aspect, which OW had very little of, is already important but even more so then. And then this is all amplified by the fact it's a weird kill as you've said yourself

the visor kill points to one of two worlds:
a world where one of the wolf team members is familiar with visor and how, even with low engagement and low presence can just wreck a wolf team
or
a world where the wolf team wanted to solidify visors reads before he could re-evaluate

yeah they look similar but they're really not. One of them is more akin to a fear kill and the other is an advantage kill

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:49 pm @hollowkatt did you reply in why are you voting me instead of Mac? What makes you lean more to me rather than Mac?

I didn't reply. I am voting you because I think you are a wolf. I am not voting mac because I do not think he is a wolf. I have played a metric fuckton of games with mac as all possible alignment combinations (including 3p) and in all of them this is mac indicative behavior, not alignment indicative. I judge mac on the results of his pushes only. It generally takes me a couple of days to get to a read on Mac but when I do it's fairly accurate.

like when achro says "mac is lying about being tilted by sabi" I don't look at that and go "chop all liars" I look at that and go "mac being mac, he'll have a poop and feel better in the morning/afternoon/whatever"

meh even flickr doesn't post images here correctly.

anyways, over 300:
sabi - 752
achro - 596
santy - 485
mac - 429
lily - 378
esooa - 359
porscha - 354
nanook - 306

oh for fucks sake imgur

ok, bbiaf, finding a new image host