The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:17 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:10 pm I know this was said in DVC/Post game chat but Scotty really really is the reason this game was won by town. He came into the last day hellbent on solving the game, was the first one to really really vocalize suspicion on anyone in the soup post, and worked really hard to come up with the right solve.

His shot on Lime Coke was inspired genius, and then his turn on Alison likewise. GG Scotty.
I gotta only take some credit. Yea, I did what I could when my ass was on the line, but I definitely wasn’t the first to suspect the soup. ‘‘Twas an overall town win!

Dolby might have been UTR but in my ISOing he correctly called out soon after the soup that the soup might be fake and LC might have been the bad one on it. It’s little details like that that made me shoot Alison instead of him at the end.

Also thank you to the graveyard who wanted me dead for about 4 nights in a row but couldn’t make it happen when it would’ve counted

Yeah, but that's kind of my point. When your ass was on the line you stepped up hard, put the game on your shoulders, and solved. That deserves to be recognized and appreciated

I know this was said in DVC/Post game chat but Scotty really really is the reason this game was won by town. He came into the last day hellbent on solving the game, was the first one to really really vocalize suspicion on anyone in the soup post, and worked really hard to come up with the right solve.

His shot on Lime Coke was inspired genius, and then his turn on Alison likewise. GG Scotty.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:26 pm nice work team

Sorry about that

I should have known better than to trust my role. Paranoia is a hell of a drug.

Alison, good fucking game. You played your ass off and honestly I didn't get there on you till after Scotty shot you, and even then I was like 51 you 49 Scotty. I thought legit it was between Scotty/Dolby for most of the last day.

mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:59 pm Gg

I'd want to ask for criticism and suggestions on my play, but I can't really do that when I don't even read 50% of D1. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@hollowkatt you're the only player that I know who's different inside the game than outside. Why?

I have no idea. I'm trying to learn chill. It's a journey though

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:59 pm Wow
Scotty Goat!

Awesome game everyone! Guillo thanks for hosting!

My flip was so fake that i only sheeped the townies on the spirit judge vote tbh

@Guillotine please post my real role for @hollowkatt to read it.

I'm so sorry Michelle!!!
The good news is now I know I just flip my read on you and I'll be right!

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

like if there's no soup left and the wolf doesn't have extra KP it doesn't matter which one of them goes today does it.
The only way town loses tonight is if the wolf can kill more than one person.
If we chop Alison and she's town the wolf kills me and y'all solve it tomorrow or don't.

If we chop Scotty and he's town the wolf kills me and y'all solve it tomorrow or don't.

in all seriousness though chopping town today, if there's no extra KP just means tomorrow is a legit F3 for whomever is alive.

If Chop Alison then F3 can be
Dolby/Scotty = Fucked if I know
Dolby/Mac = Dolby
Mac/Scotty = Scotty

if chop Scotty then F3 can be
Dolby/Alison = Alison
Dolby/Mac = Dolby
Mac/Alison = Alison

I'm going to vote for Alison today.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:29 pm ok Scotty and Alison cross voted.

yes

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:22 pm Uh I don't even know if Scotty has voted?

He voted in the poll

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:15 pm @hollowkatt what are you gonna do?

let it rand lol

just for the record lylo is not announced and votes do not lock in lylo

so...
either alison "can't be shot"
or
scotty lied about his second gun.

curious.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:29 pm
A crack of thunder is heard loud and clear and a beam of light as clear as day could be seen from afar.

guillo with the trolly slow roll

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:26 pm If neither of Dolby or Alison are wolves, then gg mac or HK.

I did see that Mafia ascetic is a role on the Grand Idea Thread, which would fit for Mac, but I think everything else is so much more likely toward Dolby/Alison. They both have such strong town and scum equity. It really sucks fam
If HK is scum there’s really no way I would be able to know that, so gg

if I were scum here I'd be lolcatting all the way to the bank b/c I'm literally never dying

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:23 pm Ok fam, I don’t think I can wait too much longer. And I hope this doesn’t lose us the game. I did what I could.

I’m shooting, and if I’m wrong, I’m immediately voting for the other. Hopefully there’s no fuckery.. Good luck town

Pew Pew

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:48 pm I don't know. TH, Michelle and Nanook are the most likely faked flips if I had to guess. Nanook was kinda townie on play and sheeped both me and Mac onto both LC and Ender D1. Michelle has a polarized scum range and she was very firmly in her town meta when she died. TH was obviously just omega scummy.

taking that and running with it worst case we have one less dead wolf and two more dead townies. not that that makes too much of a difference other than making macs "do we have two wolves after LC" thoughts potentially more relevant. But the only way that would be true AND that the game isn't over is that scotty has two real guns today and there's no more soup.

TH was super scummy yeah, but I have seen town TH scoop before. Michelle I disagree with you on, I think the wolf flip is accurate there.

Probably it's all water under the bridge and probably if you are the last wolf me asking this isn't going to catch you out. I appreciate it though

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:43 pm Yeah, it's mech correct.

Do you think any of the flips have been faked? I know that was a hot topic earlier this game and now we're kinda sitting in the "accepting things at face value" bucket.
I ask b/c I'm looking through both your and dolbys isos for associations with the flipped wolves to get a better handle on where I think the last wolf is.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:36 pm Good morning. Anything you want me to address, or should I just let you do your ISO-ing in peace?

are you still thinking scotty should be shooting between you and dolby?

I'm a staunch advocate for shooting me here. Mostly b/c then I'll be dead.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:24 pm “Mom always said not to play the roulette table just betting on red or black. But it’s so enjoyable to watch that ball! Spin spin spin

Your odds are almost 50/50, if it weren’t for those stupid 0’s mucking up the probability. Hence why the house always has an edge in that game. Mac is my 0 (but not A zero, ya dig?)

HK is the card counter at the roulette table, and no one will catch him counting cards here. Guillo is the guy on the surveillance cams makin sure I don’t count cards at roulette.
Listo and nook got into a fight at the bar over the pretty waitress and died of their injuries. C4 choked on a pretzel while at slots.

I’m drunk off of whatever booze the person at this spot left, and just want it to be over

Until tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow”

-William Shakespeare

That's why you put it all on green

Mansnicks never had a chance to hand out guns, let alone 4 of them. So guns had to come from somewhere else.
We also know that the shots were taken publicly yeah? Like they were all in thread guns.

What we're not considering is whether or not any of those were faked posts. We haven't seen a modposter role flip yet, though Martin could have had access to that (I have not checked the list of actions his wildcard would have access to).

in the original Everyones JOATED game on MU mafia had access to a fake mod post role that we tried using on N1 to fake Rokon as mafia to spew some of us as town. Guillo was on that wolf team and it would not surprise me at all if he was inspired to grab something like that for his JOATED game role sets.

This does look good for dolby being accurate in handing out guns. What doesn't look good is his claim that he gave me one but I never got it or I'd have shot TSP myself. I also didn't see anything flip that would prevent me from getting that gun.
So either dolby is lying, there's a role that hasn't flipped that redirects gifts like that, or some other fuckery.

Also hai wolf team browsing this forum, how's it going? Looking to see if we make the wrong call?

These are the only roles that have flipped thus far that could hand out a gun. Martin can only hand out a gun if there's a gun handing out role available in the list guillo linked. Ender can only hand out a gun if he uses Wildcard AND THEN hits the chance martin would have had to get a gun from the linked list.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:06 am

mansnicks has been eliminated
He was Town

As Town Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more night actions. Don't have to use in any specific order.

x3 RocketKnight
The RocketKnight may each night pass a gun to another player in the game. Guns received from the RocketKnight can only be fired during day phases and have a 50% chance of revealing the shooter.

x3 RocketKnight
The RocketKnight may each night pass a gun to another player in the game. Guns received from the RocketKnight can only be fired during day phases and have a 50% chance of revealing the shooter.

x3 RocketKnight
The RocketKnight may each night pass a gun to another player in the game. Guns received from the RocketKnight can only be fired during day phases and have a 50% chance of revealing the shooter.

You got a limited amount of RocketKnight uses.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:07 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:56 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:06 am I'm town.
JUDGEMENT DAY

@Guillotine
Statement is False

Ender has DIED

Ender was Mafia

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Mafia Jack Of All Trades.

You win when you overpower the Town or there is nothing that can prevent it. You may not holster your actions.

As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night by private messaging any of the hosts. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.
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As Mafia Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more night actions. Don't have to use in any specific order.

x3 Cop Invalidator
The Cop Invalidator may at night target a person and make them unable to be successfully investigated by Cop abilities for the rest of the game. May not self target.

x3 Dark Spirit
If you die the night this action is activated or the following day, you become a restless spirit, and your flip will reveal only your alignment.

x3 Wildcard
The Wildcard may target someone each night and use a random power on them still left in the game, randomly selected from any other power role in the game. If there are no other power roles left in the game, then the Wildcard's action does nothing.

If You die with the Dark Spirit activated, you get a new set of actions. You don't have to cycle through these actions to use one again and you can use multiple actions per night. You however MAY NOT holster.

x3 Restless Spirit
The Restless Spirit is still allowed to vote after having died in the game. The Restless Spirit may not post anything other than their vote and you are also not able to use any night actions that you had while you were alive. The restless spirit loses its vote power at final 8 and beyond. Restless Spirit does not gain access to the graveyard and retains READ-ONLY access to the mafia chat. You cannot be resurrected.

Note: The Restless Spirit does not count for parity, may not post or otherwise be interacted with by living players. Do not angleshoot this!

x3 Drag To Hell
At night, you may target a dead player to drag them from the DVC straight to hell. Players in hell cannot be resurrected or interacted with by the living.

x3 Spirit Blocker
At night, you may target a dead player to block any post-mortem abilities or any non-ability actions they can perform at night. You cannot target the same player two nights in a row.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:00 am
MartinGG99 has been eliminated

MartinGG99 was Mafia
Mafia Jack Of All Trades.

You win upon reaching parity to town and all other threats to your survival are dead. You may holster your actions every night.

As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night by private messaging any of the hosts. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.
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As Mafia Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more night actions. Don't have to use in any specific order.

x2 Tactician
During pre-game and at night, the Tactician may redistribute all abilities available for his entire team except the tactician ability itself and those that vanished with the dead teammates. Does not count as visit.

x2 Strategist
At night, the Strategist may change one ability his faction got for one ability that they don’t (except killing actions) from the link bellow (until post #80 only), the strategist cannot replace itself or tactician. This does not act as a recharger. Roles cannot contain multiple actions. It must be Mafia Aligned role actions.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... f=7&t=2159

If the selection is too broken for this format, restriction will be added by the host.

x2 Insanizer
You may target a player during the day, which will add "Insane" status to the target's role. "Insane" will cause the target's role actions (if any) to do exactly the opposite of what was intended. (A Doctor will kill, a Cop will frame, a Killer will protect etc).

You got a limited amount of Tactician, Strategist and Insanizer uses.

Guns have been claimed to be given to Dolby, Scotty, Seanzie, HK, Mac.
Of those we have seen Seanzie and Mac fire with a negative effect (seanzie died, mac = ascetic). Scotty scored a hit on LC. Dolby shot TSP.

I think the vest giver to Mac also flipped, seanzie was armorsmith.

bbiaf, looking at flips/roles stuff. Also pulling associations with flipped wolves and some thoughts on fake flips to come

Wish I had that gun you said I had. That'd have been cool

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:28 am 1. Tbh I just don’t want to consider the 3v2 world.
2. I can’t give myself a gun
3. Yeah I gave Seanzie a gun during dawn, because my flavorcard hit N1, and it blew up for whatever reason. Or he got a second gun and it was used first. I claimed that I knew that HK/Seanzie received guns from the same source to avoid soup as a gun giver. I was that source. I’ve been really paranoid about soup this whole game but I think scum could just win here if they still have a soup so yeah

these don't particularly read as someone who's soup paranoid to me

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:23 pm I’m getting soup killed for this

HK, Seanzie, and myself were all intended gun recipients last night. This is a random 3, and non-exhaustive.

I did receive a gun

HK’s and Seanzie’s guns came from the same source

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:26 pm Actually, calling it a gun is not accurate but if I use it someone will die

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:30 pm I’m debating if it’s worth using because soup kill exists but basically, I can select a post and if the person is lying they die

What it does read as is someone who's trying to look really townie b/c they're "offering good information/actions to town in the face of soup".

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:21 am Mafia wins upon reaching parity to town and all other threats to their survival are dead.

If the day began with 3 mafia but town Scotty holding 2 real guns it plays out.

wouldn't it be funny if the soup was 3 wolves and a town

We can't have 2 wolves left mac or the game would have ended already b/c that's parity.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:21 am If I take all mech away.

Dolby and Alison are towny as fuck.
Scotty has pinged me but mostly was townread by a lot of town including C4 who was adamant, who also scumread LC and was right.
HK I have felt you were scummy for the majority of your game. You haven't even gotten towny since your return and are only coasting on the mech.

So if we were to take away all information, which frankly we probably should at this point of a bastard game. I'd kill you.

So I flipped wrong? That's your "non-mech" solve?

did anyone claim Nanooks pelt? I can't remember

ok, from my perspective then I'm clear obvs and Mac is obvs town.

Scotty - shot LC
Dolby - lie checked Ender
Alison - Claimed Michelle death

Those are the pelts people can claim yeah?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:16 am The Osie post and some of the earlier LC posts are actually pretty good logs.

they are, and while I believe mac to be a strong enough player to survive the majority of his pack mates suspecting him, I'm more inclined to believe they knew he is town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:59 pm Yeah like why is that so hard to believe?

My initial solve was that you and Ender were mafia from the d1 wagons. If there is even a remote shred of evidence that there is flip bullshit in play, you having the card you have makes you getting that ability put on you a near certainty.

ok, here's why that's hard to believe.
I'd have to plan to fake a red on TSP which is a bad plan b/c realistically TSP is no threat to the wolf team this game based on how he played D1 yeah? Why fake on TSP when I can fake on you, dolby, TH, michelle, honey, or Flea? All of whom were more town read than TSP was D1.

Then you'd have to believe the wolf team used a fake flip/janitor/role reversal of some sorts AND flip me with roles that aren't town roles (like no way does role madness mafia get alignment cop that's just dumb game design and guillo isn't dumb).
THEN you'd have to believe that we were banking on hitting that 10% chance to resurrect, which if that never happens all I did was trade 1:1 for TSP, which again, is poor mafia play and I think you respect my wolf game more than that.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:48 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:46 pm If you think it's WIFOM just call the bluff. Scotty supposedly has a gun; he can resolve my alignment right now if it's legitimate.

My solve is Scotty -> Mac. I don't see a good reason for Scotty to have those guns in his hand unless he is mafia. I would probably go Mac over Dolby if he is green on the sole basis that both sides have been mech cleared (one got time looped, the other shot a wolf) and Mac is more likely to be cunning enough to fake it.
Dolby also was time looped today and only broke out of it when LC flipped. It's impossible for him to be a wolf unless this entire game has been set up for him to be the deepest of deep wolves.
The way that Dolby is a wolf is if he uses a daykill to bus Ender and then asks LC to time loop him (or fakes a time loop). In a Scotty V and HK V world someone has faked being sabotaged by the mafia so he can't be cleared off that.

I would go Mac over him mostly because I think Mac is about ten thousand times more likely to fake a sabotage on himself than Dolby is.

and I wouldn't put it past him to pull that off.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:51 pm Scotty shooting a wolf teammate when he did is just nuts to think about. I am not gonna be the guy that tinfoils mafia killing teammates. I did that once and it cost me a lot of dignity.

So I am taking Dolby, Scotty as clear.

Is there a world where HK is a wolf?

Maybe he is the wolf with the card shuffling nonsense?

for that to be true you'd have to believe I flipped incorrectly the first time b/c my card as revealed in DVC says I come back as the alignment I originally was

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:46 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:44 pm cause that's the only thing I can think of when she says shoot between her and dolby is "less likely to shoot the person offering to be shot"
and GTH dolby is town
Saying to shoot between me and Dolby is not WIFOM it's mech correct play. You're the most cleared town and Mac is claiming a vest.

yeah, I get that it's mechanically the "right" thing to do. The wifom part is who suggests it first. But I'm also feeling kinda paranoid at the moment

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:46 pm If you think it's WIFOM just call the bluff. Scotty supposedly has a gun; he can resolve my alignment right now if it's legitimate.

My solve is Scotty -> Mac. I don't see a good reason for Scotty to have those guns in his hand unless he is mafia. I would probably go Mac over Dolby if he is green on the sole basis that both sides have been mech cleared (one got time looped, the other shot a wolf) and Mac is more likely to be cunning enough to fake it.

Dolby also was time looped today and only broke out of it when LC flipped. It's impossible for him to be a wolf unless this entire game has been set up for him to be the deepest of deep wolves.

cause that's the only thing I can think of when she says shoot between her and dolby is "less likely to shoot the person offering to be shot"
and GTH dolby is town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:38 pm I'd go Alison over Dolby. Pretty comfortably.

so alison going for the wifom play then here?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:28 pm If Scotty has a second gun he should fire it to clear himself by proving he had two live guns. Then if the game doesn't end you can just solve between the survivors. Mac is probably a bad choice since he has claimed to have a vest, and I think HK is just town so you should probably fire between me and Dolby.

this feels like GOC ngl

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:00 pm That said, there is no world in which Scotty wins this at f3. So it's a hail mary anyway. Scotty has claimed to have a second gun. That'll clear things up even further. If he is town, he is very likely to shoot at a wolf imo.

Please note that for the fifth time I am hard claiming having an unpopped vest though.

Alright. Do you think it's more or less likely that Scotty is the last wolf?

If you think it's less likely do you think Dolby or Alison is more likely the last wolf?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:58 pm I was pushing LC/Scotty worlds literally today fwiw. So the idea that there is absolutely no benefit to Scotty taking that shot if he can take it, is not true. I was pretty much bullying everyone into going Scotty into LC as our solve. This is like the one thing that could have happened to prevent Scotty being today's chop and LC being an auto chop afterwards imo.

I wouldn't say you were bullying anyone into a scotty/lc solve. I know I came into the day thinking scotty. Alison did too, clearly.
Thing is though, and I think you said this in your next post, is that Scotty doesn't win in F3 anyways. He doesn't need to if there's an available soup b/c he knows I'm vt and he knows Dolby is lie detector, and if he's got any faith that you're telling the truth (don't say anything if you're not) about being ascetic that's gg for wolves b/c that leaves him and alison

Which is why I said that the original soup is the only soup and was a legit soup attempt b/c the game ends

mech reasons to town read:
me: Flipped town, rezzed as same alignment as flipped
Dolby: Lie Detected Ender, was souped, shot TSP, was Izanoomi target
Mac: Tried to shoot me (uncountered) D2 on my TSP Red, was Izanoomi target
Alison: claimed Michelle death, was kidnapped
Scotty: killed Lime Coke

I know I am town
Mac, Alison, Dolby targeted by powers that have flipped wolf.
Leaves scotty. Except that he just killed Lime Coke who I think was in no danger of being a real push today so like the only reason to kill Lime Coke is b/c it's his only chance to get to tomorrow

Mac react to LC death is townie and also he yelled at me for angleshooting with dolby being Izanoomi. Probs doesn't need to do that if he's a wolf he just ignores it and lets me draw a modkill b/c closer to parity and "don't break rules dumbass" is super easy cover.

Dolby makes an interesting point about does Wolf?Scotty take that shot at 4v2.
Lets work through that.
If he does he's making it 4v1 right now and he MUST get a town chop today. Who would that be? It won't be me, it won't be dolby, and it won't be mac. Must be Alison. But then Wolf?Scotty loses tomorrow b/c there's nobody left to chop. He can't get me, he can't get mac, and he can't get Dolby.

Wolf?Scotty didn't have to make that shot to win today IF the soup wasn't real OR they have an additional soup. Mac - Ascetic, Dolby - Lie Detector, HK - Vanilla Town = one alive wolf scotty, and one alive wolf Lime Coke, and one alive town Alison.

That the game hasn't ended means that the soup as submitted was real, yeah?

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:28 pm I gotta go run an in person mafia game in 15 minutes

wolfy pop-out

jkjk

lol I forgot nanook flipped wolf. Probably put him around michelle for confidence

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:17 pm I guess mafia could be holding onto the soup and it's actually LyLo today.

I've been saying if they can soup again (which if we think soup 1 is fake they can) today is lylo
and now that there's 5 of us left I think it's still lylo for a single wolf.
Chop town, soup 2 (dolby/me) = parity

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:16 pm Dolby feels just uber town here. I am never tinfoiling him.

HK ... gotta be town.

Hmmm I guess I'll do this the old fashioned way.

Which of the mafia flips are we most confident is real in order?

martin
ender
lc
michelle

GOD DAMN SCOTTY that's a hell of a shot

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:29 pm Come on of course he’s not just playing a game, he’s either insanified or pretending to be, so looks like I gotta do this on my own

too true, ok, lets talk.
I think dolby being Izanoomi hard clears mac.

So that's one "can't be a wolf".

I know I can't be a wolf so for me that's two.

Alison was kidnapped and no town has flipped kidnapper AND nobody has claimed the kidnapping. This proves Alison is town UNLESS if and only if there are two wolves and alisons partner is the kidnapper.

That's three.

Leaves one (or two) wolves in LC, Dolby, Scotty.

Of those Dolby sheeped me on TSP (eh, not incriminating tbh), killed Ender via Lie Detector (seems townie as fuck), and generally has been playing very townie.
So dolby being town comes down to "is he faking the Izanoomi" or not.

does Dolby being Izanoomi hard clear mac? I think it does

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