The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:17 pm Hahahaha

sorry

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:54 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:49 pm ngl I feel like we failed to make use of the Theme of the game
So many more crushes left unrevealed.

falcon45ca was Ashley.

Ashley might have been more of a middle school crush than a high school crush, but I think it extended decently into my freshman year at least. She was smarter than I was. Her eyes conveyed a degree of warmth and kindness that none others ever seemed to during the worst era of my childhood, and I never forgot her for that. She was a good egg, and she was nicer to me than perhaps any other human in those days (at least in our limited interactions). I think she had a strong religious bent that I didn't quite understand at the time, and it makes me wonder if there was a little whoo boy, yikes under the surface, and she ended up marrying another of our classmates very young. I hope they're doing alright, wherever they are.

RERUN!

ngl I feel like we failed to make use of the Theme of the game

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:40 pm I don’t think that I’m ever letting Falcon live but that really does explain why I didn’t really think it was anybody lol

Yeah pretty much. Like I was confident enough that you, alive tomorrow, push falcon to take the risk on being wrong with rondo. And then likewise knew that I'd be pushing falcon tomorrow if I lived.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:59 pm honestly ill just

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

i don't REALLY think it's right but im having a hard time thinking anything is right

obvs running out of time but ok. You are thinking myself, Wigly, and Porscha are some level of clear from Moon spew, right? That would leave yourself (obvs you're not going to push there), Ender, and Rondo. And you've been on Ender for a long time.

If your clears are right, and you are not a wolf, then it follows that chopping between Ender, Rondo, and Falcon gets the wolf 100% of the time, and gets the wolf today 33% of the time. I feel like those are odds worth taking especially given your level of confidence on the clears.

If I'm misrepresenting or misunderstanding your level of confidence in those clears let me know, but currently I'm in agreement with you on them.

and honestly if it rands between rondo and falcon I think we've got a 50% shot at getting the wolf.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine and here's why:

When I laid out the idea that mac could have been killed to lock his reads in on Ender/Falcon Rondos response wasn't "Oh, that might make some sense, lemme see what I think about that". Instead it was "if Mac was killed to lock in his reads that means his reads are right and Ender/Falcon have to be town" and then votes me which I can't wrap my head around.

Like ok, if I'm wolfing here why do I want to bring up Mac locking Ender/Falcon as town when I know I can get Falcon over the line and I bet I can get Dolby to work with me to get Ender over the line.

That's two down. I can NK Dolby after he helps me with Ender and then I'm left with Rondo and Porscha and Wigly. Rondo and Wigly are chops I think I can get, so always NK one of them and bring the other to F3 with me and Porscha who I've got pocketed pretty well (in a wolf HK world anyways)

There's 5 minutes left and I'm either voting Falcon to just be done with it or I'm voting Rondo for being surface at best

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:16 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:57 pm Like Mac nails Moon to the wall in two posts. Then goes on to say it's always Dizzy/Moon (we know that's wrong), and locks Falcon and Ender as town.
Killing Mac here locks those takes in stone, he can't re-evaluate them. So if the wolf team is not within those two it's not in their best interests to kill him, they want him making bad pushes.

Mac is incredibly good at the game of mafia but he is not infallible.

I'm tempted to say the last wolf is within Ender/Falcon just based on that. Falcon dropping off of a cliff today makes me think two separate things:

1. He's depressed wolf

2. He's town that doesn't care

and with Falcon tbh both of those things could theoretically be true and we don't know till he either comes back and does something or dies.

Kinda wanna just kill him and see what happens but I think probably he flips town. I just don't think I can find that in his posting

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:28 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:16 pm The tea leaves told me that the mafia are between Mac, Ender, and Dizzy.

I'll ask the Moon what it thinks later tonight.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine
Even worse second post.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:28 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:12 pmHiiiiiiiiiiii
Legitimately suspicious first post.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:27 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:04 pm Ender is the entire wolf team and has to be today's yeet

now that that's out of the way he cannot call me out for pocketing him when i pocket him later
This is a god awful first post. Do better.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:52 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:32 pm I’m ok with Wilgy’s energy. His votes are mildly towny, simply for the fact that it’s not on me. Maybe. His overall takes are questionable to me. However, the content so far has been questionable as well.

Moon asking me to not vote is probably mildly towny.

HK probably ok. I think.

I don’t think Mac has had any real takes so far. But he can speak more to that when he comes back.

I do have another question to @Porscha - what in your mind connected me and Moon?
all my takes were real

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:59 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:57 am I so much want dizzy to be town that I'm not sold mac, sorry
but yeah i'll vote moon w/e (sorry moon)
I ain't selling anything but the truth, and your desire for dyslexicon to be town doesn't change reality except for in your own little brain.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:30 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:35 pm I am town!

Look upon my works, ye mighty and yadda yadda yadda
Falcon used his towntell.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:31 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:38 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:04 pm Ender is the entire wolf team and has to be today's yeet

now that that's out of the way he cannot call me out for pocketing him when i pocket him later
I'm being pocketed by Dolby help.
Ender is LOCK town.

Ok this logic doesn't make sense to me.

In a World where they kill mac to lock in his reads doesn't that mean Falcon and ender are town?

[VOTE: HK] aubergine

read what I said then read back what you said and figure out why you're wrong.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:14 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:51 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:45 pm @Dolby do you think remaining wolf kills Mac from fear of him having the solve, ability to reach the solve, or vengeance for moon?
I think they probably feared him reaching the solve.
I wonder if they killed him to lock in his reads. I don't think he had the solve in thread. I do wonder if he had an inverse solve though
Honestly it was RVS I don't think Mac did more than meme I didn't even really see any of his content

I quoted most of his content a few posts ago

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:13 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:49 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:29 am hollowkatt
DrWilgy

Porscha

Dolby
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
RondoDimBuckle

If I can sort 4 town outside me we can chop through me that's okay.
@EnderWiggin Here's how I'd sort that list:

HK
Porscha

Wigly
Dolby

Rondo/Ender

Falcon

If day were ending in 10 minutes where do you vote?
I mean if you are saying Rondo/Ender where it can only be one of us I agree. Why not put yourself as highest town? Could that be Wolfy?

Yeah.

The thing that gives me pause is him saying "you can chop through me if I can find 4 villagers who aren't me" because that puts him squarely in the firing line and does so earlier than "necessary"
Why would a wolf write that unless it''s pure wifom.

Like Mac nails Moon to the wall in two posts. Then goes on to say it's always Dizzy/Moon (we know that's wrong), and locks Falcon and Ender as town.
Killing Mac here locks those takes in stone, he can't re-evaluate them. So if the wolf team is not within those two it's not in their best interests to kill him, they want him making bad pushes.

Mac is incredibly good at the game of mafia but he is not infallible.

I'm tempted to say the last wolf is within Ender/Falcon just based on that. Falcon dropping off of a cliff today makes me think two separate things:

1. He's depressed wolf

2. He's town that doesn't care

and with Falcon tbh both of those things could theoretically be true and we don't know till he either comes back and does something or dies.

Kinda wanna just kill him and see what happens but I think probably he flips town. I just don't think I can find that in his posting

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:28 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:16 pm The tea leaves told me that the mafia are between Mac, Ender, and Dizzy.

I'll ask the Moon what it thinks later tonight.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine
Even worse second post.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:28 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:12 pmHiiiiiiiiiiii
Legitimately suspicious first post.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:27 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:04 pm Ender is the entire wolf team and has to be today's yeet

now that that's out of the way he cannot call me out for pocketing him when i pocket him later
This is a god awful first post. Do better.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:52 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:32 pm I’m ok with Wilgy’s energy. His votes are mildly towny, simply for the fact that it’s not on me. Maybe. His overall takes are questionable to me. However, the content so far has been questionable as well.

Moon asking me to not vote is probably mildly towny.

HK probably ok. I think.

I don’t think Mac has had any real takes so far. But he can speak more to that when he comes back.

I do have another question to @Porscha - what in your mind connected me and Moon?
all my takes were real

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:59 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:57 am I so much want dizzy to be town that I'm not sold mac, sorry
but yeah i'll vote moon w/e (sorry moon)
I ain't selling anything but the truth, and your desire for dyslexicon to be town doesn't change reality except for in your own little brain.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:30 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:35 pm I am town!

Look upon my works, ye mighty and yadda yadda yadda
Falcon used his towntell.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:31 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:38 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:04 pm Ender is the entire wolf team and has to be today's yeet

now that that's out of the way he cannot call me out for pocketing him when i pocket him later
I'm being pocketed by Dolby help.
Ender is LOCK town.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:45 pm @Dolby do you think remaining wolf kills Mac from fear of him having the solve, ability to reach the solve, or vengeance for moon?
I think they probably feared him reaching the solve.

I wonder if they killed him to lock in his reads. I don't think he had the solve in thread. I do wonder if he had an inverse solve though

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:29 am hollowkatt
DrWilgy

Porscha

Dolby
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
RondoDimBuckle

If I can sort 4 town outside me we can chop through me that's okay.

@EnderWiggin Here's how I'd sort that list:

HK
Porscha

Wigly
Dolby

Rondo/Ender

Falcon

If day were ending in 10 minutes where do you vote?

@Dolby do you think remaining wolf kills Mac from fear of him having the solve, ability to reach the solve, or vengeance for moon?

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:37 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:30 pm @Dolby You started the game claiming Ender is a wolf. Have you ever wavered from that stance?
Obvs I can read your ISO but if you could walk me through why/how you started with your Ender sus and then work forward from there I'd appreciate it.
i mean if you're talking about d2 i simply thought that ender made the most sense as a moonwink partner and was more likely w than falcon and rondo

if you mean why i started the game saying "ender is the entire wolf team" that was just me having fun and i did not believe that

Sure. You can see how it's easy to come to "dolby is susing ender as a continuation bet" though right? Given how vocal you were during the having fun bits and then starting off today with how Ender makes the most sense as a Moon partner.

@Dolby You started the game claiming Ender is a wolf. Have you ever wavered from that stance?
Obvs I can read your ISO but if you could walk me through why/how you started with your Ender sus and then work forward from there I'd appreciate it.

[VOTE: sleep] aubergine

we don't have enough information and I want to see who dies next. This is not a joke post

Rondo has definitely improved since the last time I was here. Falcon otoh hasn't posted since they became top wagon. Yes I know we have till Dec 1 to decide but right now I want to kill Falcon more than anyone else. Rondo like I said has improved. Dolby and Ender are objectively fine. Porscha I still town read, nothing she's done today has dropped that read for me.

Wigly is the outlier for me. I think he's town but I have less reasons to town read him than anyone else I've mentioned thus far.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:04 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:36 pm max one wolf in ender/rondo
did you learn that in math class hk

yes

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:40 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:36 pm max one wolf in ender/rondo
:wowee:

ikr
big brain time from HK

How do you read Dolby Ender? Because I don't really want to chop Rondo today, I just want Rondo to make better posts. They're dropping surface level posts with the occasional deeper thought but for the most part they're very ineffectual.

Dolby otoh has been driving herd for most of the game. He's not steering chops but he's very vocal, which makes me think is he purposefully not steering chops?

max one wolf in ender/rondo

@RondoDimBuckle what if I said to you "Rondo, I think your posts are super surface level and I'm not seeing the level of detail and nuance I expect from someone doing a catch-up of the thread"

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:01 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

the spirit of dizzy says "make better posts"
No

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

the spirit of dizzy says "make better posts"

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:43 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:34 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:29 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:25 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:49 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:12 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:32 pm I don't know anything about Rondo. My vote on them was to see how they'd react. I don't have enough data yet to understand how they're playing yet. I'd put them in the Mac+HK cluster, and in that cluster, I think I'd order it HK > Mac > Rondo. HK because, selfishly, I'm going to like people who townread me more. Rondo because I know the least about them.
lol
Can confirm yeah
so moon says hk is town cuz they didnt vote them, since moon had to keep up fake appearances that they were playing the game on total OMGUS to validate their suspicion on me. buuuttt if moon said mac was more town than rondo, and then voted mac, then what does that mean for rondo? does it mean anything
I don’t think that it means anything bc I think that Moonwink decided to just leave a vote on Mac bc lol fun. Mac isn’t a productive vote for her in any world (besides maybe trying to appear towny I guess but it wasn’t towny), so I do not believe it means anything for Rondo.

I think that when initially Moonwink shifted onto rondo she was on for like half an hour before moving back to Mac?
Mac had to be the NK b/c of Moon.. probably
well moon had already been got so what's the point in NK'ing mac when he's afk in the game anyway

because spewed town via wolf Mac is incredibly dangerous even if he's afking the game. There's no predicting if/when he'll show up and dunk the other wolf.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:28 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:03 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:15 am Tbh if it’s not Ender it’s Rondo and if it’s not them it’s Falcon

I should probs read through Wilgy again but yeah
Why is it not me or Porscha?
i r eccomend reading posts in the game

ppl think you're spewed town from your interactions with moon

yeah I know that, I more wanted Dolby to articulate it. Mostly because dumpstering a partner early is something I absolutely have in my tool set and dolby would know that.
So yes, while my interactions with Moon are good for me, it shouldn't be enough for a hard clear.

I'd say more my efforts to find dizzy town and push that read while parked on Moon is a better reason to town read me

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:29 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:25 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:49 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:12 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:32 pm I don't know anything about Rondo. My vote on them was to see how they'd react. I don't have enough data yet to understand how they're playing yet. I'd put them in the Mac+HK cluster, and in that cluster, I think I'd order it HK > Mac > Rondo. HK because, selfishly, I'm going to like people who townread me more. Rondo because I know the least about them.
lol
Can confirm yeah
so moon says hk is town cuz they didnt vote them, since moon had to keep up fake appearances that they were playing the game on total OMGUS to validate their suspicion on me. buuuttt if moon said mac was more town than rondo, and then voted mac, then what does that mean for rondo? does it mean anything
I don’t think that it means anything bc I think that Moonwink decided to just leave a vote on Mac bc lol fun. Mac isn’t a productive vote for her in any world (besides maybe trying to appear towny I guess but it wasn’t towny), so I do not believe it means anything for Rondo.

I think that when initially Moonwink shifted onto rondo she was on for like half an hour before moving back to Mac?

Mac had to be the NK b/c of Moon.. probably

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:15 am Tbh if it’s not Ender it’s Rondo and if it’s not them it’s Falcon

I should probs read through Wilgy again but yeah

Why is it not me or Porscha?

I've read no spew. gg on chopping moon, that was awesome. shame on all y'all for dizzy, that was bad. don't do it again.
Mac being the NK isn't a surprise but I wanted it

alright, dinner is ready and the rest of the house frowns on playing mafia at the dinner table. I'll try to pop back in before the day ends but this is probably my last post today.

That being said:
do not kill -
dizzy
porscha
dolby
wigly

do kill -
moon
rondo

Fuck you, Candice

I'd made that read off of their early game stuff but the posts on p8/9 are horrible

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:10 pm like maybe there's a world where I'm super pocketed but I struggle to see Dizzy = wolf thus far this game and I've caught dizzy wolfing before.
Do you town read Rondo more than me?

I don't really town lean Dolby, no.

oh wow Rondo fell off a cliff too
ok, Rondo is on the table for sure

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

like maybe there's a world where I'm super pocketed but I struggle to see Dizzy = wolf thus far this game and I've caught dizzy wolfing before.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:58 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:56 pm the only good news if dizzy dies is that at least we can look at how they were pushed.
Oof. This is not a good post though.

I know how I'm pushed. Mac had a thing about one of Moon's posts on Page 2. Ender sheeped this (also ender reads me wolf or maybe not?). Porscha sheeped this because she really didn't like Moon. Falcon voted me for being partnered with Rondo, as random as Mac's vote.

It's great.

I also made the mistake of trying to solve the game and try to squeeze things out of it. It's very wolfy of me and how dare I

I'm wracking my brain on how I can save you. I won't move to Rondo, that's a non-starter. Dolby isn't moving to himself and I think you town lean there.
I don't think any of us are willing to move to wigly, I think we all think he's town.

That basically leaves Porscha and all three of us need to pile there and hope it rands to her over you.

So when I say "the only good thing" is being able to look at how you're being pushed it's less reviewing the posts of today and more grilling the ever loving fuck out of the people who pushed you and by pushed I mean legit pushed not shitposted a vote there.

the only good news if dizzy dies is that at least we can look at how they were pushed.

I think if I'm wrong on my town reads it's rondo

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:45 pm Oh it’s just Ender you think

tbh I'm not looking at who can be partnered. maybe I should be, but I'm voting moon b/c I think they're wolfy and I'm voting Ender because I think they've had the worst day so far in terms of producing content.
I have concerns that ender isn't actually a wolf but I'm telling myself that if we get 1 of 2 today we're still in great shape.

I think dizzy is town and I think there's a wolf on his wagon. I don't think mac is a wolf and I still want to call falcon town mostly as a reverse volume thing. Porscha I think is just obvs town

starting dinner, ping me if needed

justification is "he fell off a cliff"

moving a vote here
[VOTE: ender wiggleman] aubergine

is falcon threadspewed town?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:11 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:04 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:24 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:10 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:09 pm @hollowkatt Why is Moon slop? His buddying of me is beautiful tbh

I don't know anything. I want everyone to post way more
Porscha reads like she's struggle-posting would be the best way to put it. Like nothing is seriously wrong but her posts read like they took effort to make.
Sure.

I asked about Moon though. =p
lol that you did. I had Porsches on the brain.

Moon... it's their mac posts and the way they interacted with you. it doesn't *feel* good.
I call BS on the Mac stuff. What Mac did is no different than what he usually does to me on D1 when he's trying to get a feel for me. He's done this as both alignments to me.
re: he's done this as both alignments to you

do you feel like he's trying to vote you off or trying to get a feel for you an what does getting a feel for you entail from scum him
sorry this wasn't directed at me but I dont find it very believable from moon b/c even if mac pushes moon first day every day (though his posts for the reasoning, imo, are very understandable and valid and don't feel made up), if he's being 100% serious right now then he *isn't* just pushing you to get a read on you. he already made the read (and hasn't rescinded it)

This is a town post

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:04 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:24 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:10 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:09 pm @hollowkatt Why is Moon slop? His buddying of me is beautiful tbh

I don't know anything. I want everyone to post way more
Porscha reads like she's struggle-posting would be the best way to put it. Like nothing is seriously wrong but her posts read like they took effort to make.
Sure.

I asked about Moon though. =p
lol that you did. I had Porsches on the brain.

Moon... it's their mac posts and the way they interacted with you. it doesn't *feel* good.
I call BS on the Mac stuff. What Mac did is no different than what he usually does to me on D1 when he's trying to get a feel for me. He's done this as both alignments to me.
re: he's done this as both alignments to you

do you feel like he's trying to vote you off or trying to get a feel for you an what does getting a feel for you entail from scum him

Moon misses my point there as well. It's not how Mac treated Moon, it's how Moon backed off of how they were reading mac and saying "oh I was just trolling".
Then there's this:

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:24 pm I don't really have anything to say about Mac at the moment. I got the reaction that I thought I was going to get, but I don't think it's anything I can read into this early. Straight up null.

I've liked my interactions with Dizzy so far in spite of the read I gave out earlier? I'd probably put them higher in my reads list than Mac atm.

If you were trying to get a reaction, and you thought you might get the reaction that you did get, null as a conclusion seems really not great.

Spoiler: show

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:03 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:23 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:20 pm I do like this double chop though. I've always liked that mechanic.

I vote we try to end the game on D1 and just win.
For the memes.
For the glory.
This is the first time I've played a game with it. My first thought was that it could be treated almost like a parity cop check, but I feel like just saying that out loud would discourage people from getting into conflicts and arguments. :<
tbh i don't understand this

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:38 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:04 pm Ender is the entire wolf team and has to be today's yeet

now that that's out of the way he cannot call me out for pocketing him when i pocket him later
I'm being pocketed by Dolby help.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:06 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:01 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:44 pm
Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:11 pm I made myself pancakes. <3
panickakes
The best kind.

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine
real talk what do you think about Dolby?
Pocketing me.
I do seriously think he's wolfing here. This reminds me more of how he wolfs Secret Hitler in terms of just owning things and trying to drive the thread to the direction he wants to get to. As far as his partner I don't actually think it's you. Possible it's dizzy but unlikely tbh
The dynamics of SH are way different than forum mafia, also i want a take on if me and Ender are partners. With that said, I haven't been driving the thread anywhere, and I can't counternance a take that any of my first page pushes could be read as serious

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:45 am I can sheep Mac sure.
i kinda take issue with this, this is one of the few playerlists where wolf ender can just get away with this

but honestly yeah dizzy and moon were kinda weird p1 on a vibes level

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:09 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:53 pm I would like it known that I am not yet making a public read on Dizzy
So this is how you're going to do it, hm?

Can't get OUTED if you don't have an opinion, hmmm?
this is wolfy
unironically agree even though im not positive that rondo is serious. Dizzy recently porported to want to make the game less dead and solve and the whole sequence of posts from them around there is weak.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:14 am Also, as I'm sure you are all aware, if we mischop with both our chops today, tomorrow is Lylo! :wowee:
dizzy stop fake townslipping dammit

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:24 am I do want to solve good this game.
Right now we are all cringing, including me.

Most interesting things that has happened so far:
I seriously thought Moon/Ender could be a team before Ender had posted haha.
Dolby triple posted.
Porscha wants me to be town.
Rondo is kind of town reading Ender.
Rondo clearly scum slipped in his percentages; the answer is clearly light blue.
I'm gonna need you to go over why you thought that about moon and ender? Porscha stuff means nothing. Rondo and Ender doesn't really mean anything bc they're connected and know each other or something like that

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:26 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:58 am hell, I put my second vote on HK for fun (for now)
HK vote good.
Moonwink vote bad!
ok then vote hk?

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:17 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:57 am Someone utter a read on me, one way or the other please.
Your bantering with Dolby last night seemed a little too over the top for me, which is why I kinda laughed when Mac brought up yours and my bantering. I think one or both of you could be scum?
this is fine tbh.

both of us scum would be kinda wild though

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:44 pm moon seems sufficiently perplexed to be town
don't really agree with this tbh but im struggling so far

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:26 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:06 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:57 am Someone utter a read on me, one way or the other please.
u r town
I know.

But are you? Unsure.

How do I best read you?
tbh I have no idea. I'm solidly in "shitposting and throw things out at random and see what happens" and frankly half the time I say something it's because I want to say it, not necessarily because I believe it to be true.
Like I really do wolf read dolby for how he opened the game but I can't explain why I do or make any reasonable kind of push there, just a gnawing in my soul that says dolby isn't town.

I like your posting. maybe I'm wrong but I want you to be town. I want rondo to be town as well as their posting amuses me. On page 3 of the thread Moon felt sufficiently perplexed at what is going on in the thread that I want to town read them.

I town read Mac because I kinda just always do that, until I stop doing it.
this is a more reasonable take on me tbh. Like it's literally just "idk it's a gut feel" but i like it more than "Dolby is trying to drive the game as a wolf"

going to have to question what you like about Dizzy's posting and why Moonwink being perplexed makes them town? Haven't seen much to Wink's posting that feels.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:53 pm FIRM townreads:
HK
MAC

LOOSE townreads:
Wiggon
Falc
Rondo
why is ender a townread for people he is not being pog town ender

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:07 pm @Dolby, talk to me about your heavy focus on Ender early game. Those posts felt kinda stilted to me.
my good friend Ender is the entire wolf team, and we must get out his partners

tbh moonwink asking for more votes is the towniest feel from them so far lol

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:27 pm I'd probably put Dolby below Mac in my reads for the heavy focus on Ender earlier. It didn't feel natural to me.

HK is on the same level as Mac -- nothing really jumped out as scummy to me, but I also don't feel like I've got much to read off of him just yet.
of course it's not natural lol, I was going to do it no matter what.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:39 pm Porscha is under Rondo for the aforementioned stuff regarding the vote on me and the non-vote on Dizzy.

Falcon didn't vote for me. Don't have anything else on them. Probably between HK and Mac in my reads.
really not seeing why this is sus for Porscha here but eh I should ask them why they TR Dizzy.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:07 pm Actually, reading back, Macs posts might be mildly towny for him.
Don't like this post this is literally telling wilgy what he wants to hear

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:52 pm
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:24 pm I don't really have anything to say about Mac at the moment. I got the reaction that I thought I was going to get, but I don't think it's anything I can read into this early. Straight up null.

I've liked my interactions with Dizzy so far in spite of the read I gave out earlier? I'd probably put them higher in my reads list than Mac atm.
I guess let me ask you this, if you were reaction fishing, how do you get the reaction and then feel null.

There's gotta be somethin right?
in retrospect this was a towny wilgy post

@Dolby no, I don't read you and ender as being paired. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my explanation re SH vs what you're doing here but the idea is the same. Your play here feels more like a gish gallop than it does trying to start the game play/solving time. More like throwing enough junk at the wall such that even if we do get flips there's enough early "spew management" being done that we wouldn't find your partner.

I don't read your opening posts as "serious" I read them as "purposeful muddying of the waters".

When I said that Moon seemed like Perplexed town what I was trying to say is that the way Moon entered, and vv early posting, seemed to indicate they didn't know what was going on, that they were uninformed. I've since walked that back and explained it elsewhere.

With regards to liking Dizzys posting it's basically that dizzys posts are friend shapped, welcoming to read, and disarming. Yes dizzy is an incredible wolf and yes he can post like that, I just don't think he is. I think he's trying to understand other players motivations and alignments in such a way as to be town vs where he can find weak links to make pushes even on stronger players. Like nobody here is a slouch at all and dizzy isn't looking for weakenesses to push on he's looking to understand alignments. At least that's my impression from his posting.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:03 pm @hollowkatt I know I'm voting you. I'm sorry, bb, I love you. But can you please talk to me about your world view right now?

it's currently consumed by Le Tour and The Open

No really, I'm sitting on Page 5 at the moment so anything posted since then I don't really have an opinion on. As of that point I'm still comfortable with my earlier posted reads list for the reason I've already talked about. I'll give more when I'm on "current page"

porscha stocks climbing from page 5 posts, liking their push on moon

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