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Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:17 pm I wish I was a cop so I could just know Jess's alignment so I can just be her buddy all game assuming she's town I don't want jess to be mafia I don't want to have to figure this out

i am mafia, but buddy anyway and let me take you to endgame

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:13 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:12 pm @sloonei -

thoughts on alison?
She has made two day 0 posts that tell me very little. why do you ask about her in particular?

her two opening scumreads are one of your townreads (foresight) and another person that you (iirc) implicitly townread (tonystarkprime)

i was curious if that concerned you at all

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:59 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:53 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:51 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:47 pm
Has anyone revealed themself to be a mafier yet?
not particularly - i feel that finding the scum in a 26 player list on d1 is like finding a needle in a haystack, but finding the town is a much more achievable and realistic goal

ive primarily focused on collecting townreads and then working backwards from there to get scumreads
Who are the town reads?
you, foresight, long con

other names (tonystarkprime, esooa) pending
I can never get a real town read Q-Q
you're like, suspiciously towny. i'm weirded out by how quickly i townread you lmao
PLEASEE

this makes me wanna townread u lmfao

@sloonei -

thoughts on alison?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:57 pm What did you think my concern with you was, @staypositivefriend? did you already tell me and i just forgot?

i thought that town!sloonei would probably be concerned about my lack of inquisitiveness

most of my posts up to that point were passive and not particularly direct or aggressive - and i think town!sloonei has only seen town!spf in the context of her aggressively badgering people with questions in the earlygame. i was expecting you to draw attention to my passivity, which you did in a roundabout way with your actual concern

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:53 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:51 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:46 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:41 pm @staypositivefriend Sloon said the thing. Was it the right thing?
nah sadly, it was in the ballpark, but it wasn't The Thing

i actually do think his concerns are towny though
Has anyone revealed themself to be a mafier yet?
not particularly - i feel that finding the scum in a 26 player list on d1 is like finding a needle in a haystack, but finding the town is a much more achievable and realistic goal

ive primarily focused on collecting townreads and then working backwards from there to get scumreads
Who are the town reads?
you, foresight, long con

other names (tonystarkprime, esooa) pending
I can never get a real town read Q-Q

you're like, suspiciously towny. i'm weirded out by how quickly i townread you lmao

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:53 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:03 pm two primary reasons:

1. cloaking my townreads in ambiguity almost always gets interesting and telling interactions out of people. in this case, i think that foresight's intense amount of stress that only grew larger as i refused to directly answer his question is likely to come from a town indicative place. his irritation felt completely authentic- i honestly don't think that foresight would care that much at all if he was playing from a scum mindset

2. one of my early townleans was on you, but i felt uncomfortable outing that early into the game for a number of reasons. (partially out of the vanity of not wanting to be wrong). the other was on foresight
My concern, as TSP alludes to, is that spf's secret town reads maneuver is something I do often, and notably did in the Champs Finale to the frustration of about half the roster. Part of me feels like spf is mirroring my town meta here, maybe unconsciously, as a way to earn my trust.

We have played... three? games together. Two were in the Champs setting (both town/town), and more recently we were scum partners in Grasslands here on The Syndicate. When we've been town together, we were both distinctly aware of one another (I think. I was aware of her, at least) because our playstyles are similar. I would expect a mafia staypositivefriend to be hyper aware of my perception of her in this game, in what would be the first game we've ever been aligned opposite each other. So kicking the game off by doing a combative thing that Town Sloonei does for attention would be a viable way to do that.

Except, like Foresight says, there really wasn't much call for that play here. When I did it in Champs, the thread was moving at a breakneck pace, but I felt it was lacking traction. I did it to slow things down and get people to focus on particular issues. This thread was not moving at a fast pace when spf dropped her post. If anything, it needed more spiciness.

I'm also unclear why she was hesitant to declare a town read on me a half hour ago, but is comfortable doing so now.
the thing is - i do the "I Have Secret Reads That I'm Not Gonna Share Yet" is a maneuver that i do very commonly as either alignment

i did it in grasslands when we were teamed together, i did it in the rock falls invitational game when i was town, and i even did it multiple times in champs. it's just a style of scumhunting/provoking discussion that i really like doing, and i think it's a mistake to assume that this tactic that i do incredibly often of my own accord is something that i'm doing to appeal specifically to ~you~. truthfully, i didn't even associate that tactic with your playstyle at all

i would probably be incredibly aware about your perception of me if i rolled mafia against you, but your analysis implies a depth of thought that i haven't actually put into my posts so far.

my choice to withhold my reads provoked a lengthy discussion that we are still discussing right now 5 pages later - do you not agree that this might be more valuable than if i had simply said: "i townlean foresight and sloonei' and left it at that?
How do secret reads you don't share provoke discussion?

it usually results in people being suspicious of me for not outing my reads

or people trying to guess what reads i have, which can be a good way into tricking people into sharing reads that they weren't consciously prepared to out

or people trying to badger me into outing my reads, which can be alignment indicative within itself (and i think it was for foresight)

in any case, it usually gets more interesting reactions than if i just say: "i townlean x'. it's the same reason why i like self-voting in RVS

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:51 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:46 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:41 pm @staypositivefriend Sloon said the thing. Was it the right thing?
nah sadly, it was in the ballpark, but it wasn't The Thing

i actually do think his concerns are towny though
Has anyone revealed themself to be a mafier yet?
not particularly - i feel that finding the scum in a 26 player list on d1 is like finding a needle in a haystack, but finding the town is a much more achievable and realistic goal

ive primarily focused on collecting townreads and then working backwards from there to get scumreads
Who are the town reads?

you, foresight, long con

other names (tonystarkprime, esooa) pending

sidenote: long con's approach in this game is distinct from how i've seen him play as both alignments. he usually has a fairly strong sense of apathy/detachment from the gamestate, and he seems a lot more invested/interested in this game solely from the way that he's presenting himself

i don't know if this is alignment indicative but i actually do tonally townread him somewhat - probably just the underlying assertiveness behind his posts

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:46 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:41 pm @staypositivefriend Sloon said the thing. Was it the right thing?
nah sadly, it was in the ballpark, but it wasn't The Thing

i actually do think his concerns are towny though
Has anyone revealed themself to be a mafier yet?

not particularly - i feel that finding the scum in a 26 player list on d1 is like finding a needle in a haystack, but finding the town is a much more achievable and realistic goal

ive primarily focused on collecting townreads and then working backwards from there to get scumreads

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:41 pm @staypositivefriend Sloon said the thing. Was it the right thing?

nah sadly, it was in the ballpark, but it wasn't The Thing

i actually do think his concerns are towny though

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:03 pm two primary reasons:

1. cloaking my townreads in ambiguity almost always gets interesting and telling interactions out of people. in this case, i think that foresight's intense amount of stress that only grew larger as i refused to directly answer his question is likely to come from a town indicative place. his irritation felt completely authentic- i honestly don't think that foresight would care that much at all if he was playing from a scum mindset

2. one of my early townleans was on you, but i felt uncomfortable outing that early into the game for a number of reasons. (partially out of the vanity of not wanting to be wrong). the other was on foresight
My concern, as TSP alludes to, is that spf's secret town reads maneuver is something I do often, and notably did in the Champs Finale to the frustration of about half the roster. Part of me feels like spf is mirroring my town meta here, maybe unconsciously, as a way to earn my trust.

We have played... three? games together. Two were in the Champs setting (both town/town), and more recently we were scum partners in Grasslands here on The Syndicate. When we've been town together, we were both distinctly aware of one another (I think. I was aware of her, at least) because our playstyles are similar. I would expect a mafia staypositivefriend to be hyper aware of my perception of her in this game, in what would be the first game we've ever been aligned opposite each other. So kicking the game off by doing a combative thing that Town Sloonei does for attention would be a viable way to do that.

Except, like Foresight says, there really wasn't much call for that play here. When I did it in Champs, the thread was moving at a breakneck pace, but I felt it was lacking traction. I did it to slow things down and get people to focus on particular issues. This thread was not moving at a fast pace when spf dropped her post. If anything, it needed more spiciness.

I'm also unclear why she was hesitant to declare a town read on me a half hour ago, but is comfortable doing so now.

the thing is - i do the "I Have Secret Reads That I'm Not Gonna Share Yet" is a maneuver that i do very commonly as either alignment

i did it in grasslands when we were teamed together, i did it in the rock falls invitational game when i was town, and i even did it multiple times in champs. it's just a style of scumhunting/provoking discussion that i really like doing, and i think it's a mistake to assume that this tactic that i do incredibly often of my own accord is something that i'm doing to appeal specifically to ~you~. truthfully, i didn't even associate that tactic with your playstyle at all

i would probably be incredibly aware about your perception of me if i rolled mafia against you, but your analysis implies a depth of thought that i haven't actually put into my posts so far.

my choice to withhold my reads provoked a lengthy discussion that we are still discussing right now 5 pages later - do you not agree that this might be more valuable than if i had simply said: "i townlean foresight and sloonei' and left it at that?

im gay

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:03 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:57 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:55 pm i want you to tell me first

because if i tell you what it is, then you could just say "that was my concern!', even if it wasn't
But I am town, I wouldn't do that.
the only way to prove that is to tell me what your concern is
If that's all it takes to prove town status, then it's a low threshold
i would only townread him for it if his concern was the exact concern that i was expecting town!sloonei to have. sadly, it wasn't
But I haven't said what it was yet.

And you also said you are town reading me anyway.

i assumed that the question you asked me ~was~ the aforementioned concern

and that's true, i would just townread you more if it was what i thought it was

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:03 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:57 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:55 pm i want you to tell me first

because if i tell you what it is, then you could just say "that was my concern!', even if it wasn't
But I am town, I wouldn't do that.
the only way to prove that is to tell me what your concern is
If that's all it takes to prove town status, then it's a low threshold

i would only townread him for it if his concern was the exact concern that i was expecting town!sloonei to have. sadly, it wasn't

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:00 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:57 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:55 pm i want you to tell me first

because if i tell you what it is, then you could just say "that was my concern!', even if it wasn't
But I am town, I wouldn't do that.
the only way to prove that is to tell me what your concern is
Why did you cloak your town reads in anonymity?

two primary reasons:

1. cloaking my townreads in ambiguity almost always gets interesting and telling interactions out of people. in this case, i think that foresight's intense amount of stress that only grew larger as i refused to directly answer his question is likely to come from a town indicative place. his irritation felt completely authentic- i honestly don't think that foresight would care that much at all if he was playing from a scum mindset

2. one of my early townleans was on you, but i felt uncomfortable outing that early into the game for a number of reasons. (partially out of the vanity of not wanting to be wrong). the other was on foresight

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:56 pmI'm gay
esooa counterclaims spf. interesting.

esooa confirmed mafia?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:57 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:55 pm i want you to tell me first

because if i tell you what it is, then you could just say "that was my concern!', even if it wasn't
But I am town, I wouldn't do that.

the only way to prove that is to tell me what your concern is

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:54 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:47 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:37 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:33 pm

there's 26 people here - i'm definitely not concerned about the thread being dead. and i feel like being coy right now :P
The fact should make you even more concerned. We have 26 slots to sort, chop chop.
You may be feeling a bit of extra urgency if these phases are shorter than you're used to. This is a relatively slow start, but I'm not concerned about the pace. It's the weekend, we have four active games on this site right now, lots of people just don't seem to be here right now. They'll show up.
I couldn't care less about the people that aren't here. Someone is here and is actively choosing to keep the game slow.
I have a different concern, but I want spf to do some more things before I speak about it.
if your concern is what i think it is, then youre probably just town
What do you think it is?

i want you to tell me first

because if i tell you what it is, then you could just say "that was my concern!', even if it wasn't

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:30 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:28 pm [VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

Poison & Long Con are mafia as well.
TSP is a maybe
why are poison & long con mafia
Their posts are bad.
I guess you agree on c4 since you didn't ask about that one

which ones?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:47 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:37 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:33 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:32 pm spf the thread is dead an hour and a half in, this isn't the time to play coy.
there's 26 people here - i'm definitely not concerned about the thread being dead. and i feel like being coy right now :P
The fact should make you even more concerned. We have 26 slots to sort, chop chop.
You may be feeling a bit of extra urgency if these phases are shorter than you're used to. This is a relatively slow start, but I'm not concerned about the pace. It's the weekend, we have four active games on this site right now, lots of people just don't seem to be here right now. They'll show up.
I couldn't care less about the people that aren't here. Someone is here and is actively choosing to keep the game slow.
I have a different concern, but I want spf to do some more things before I speak about it.

if your concern is what i think it is, then youre probably just town

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:37 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:33 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:32 pm spf the thread is dead an hour and a half in, this isn't the time to play coy.
there's 26 people here - i'm definitely not concerned about the thread being dead. and i feel like being coy right now :P
The fact should make you even more concerned. We have 26 slots to sort, chop chop.
You may be feeling a bit of extra urgency if these phases are shorter than you're used to. This is a relatively slow start, but I'm not concerned about the pace. It's the weekend, we have four active games on this site right now, lots of people just don't seem to be here right now. They'll show up.
I couldn't care less about the people that aren't here. Someone is here and is actively choosing to keep the game slow.

i would argue that my choice to not immediately share my two early townleans is provoking more conversation than it would if i had chosen to share them immediately

i just dont feel a sense of urgency about this game, in all honesty. the majority of people not posting on a sunday does not concern me - there's still a lot of time

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:33 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:30 pm i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )
That doesn't sound scummy at all, staypositivefriend.

thank u sloonei, not sounding scummy is kind of my specialty

also, cool to play w/u again

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:32 pm spf the thread is dead an hour and a half in, this isn't the time to play coy.

there's 26 people here - i'm definitely not concerned about the thread being dead. and i feel like being coy right now :P

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:28 pm [VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

Poison & Long Con are mafia as well.
TSP is a maybe

why are poison & long con mafia

i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:57 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:55 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:49 pm Thread's asleep cmon.

@staypositivefriend
@Sloonei

Do you believe Grogu's claim?
sure
All that talk of trying extra hard huh.

hey now, i said that i was gonna low-effort :P

i think grogu claiming to be green is non-alignment indicative because it would be the easiest thing in the world to make up - it's not like he's claiming a role with specific or unique abilities. it's the equivalent of trying to read into someone that says: "i'm town", imo

but i think his tone is fine so far - even good

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:49 pm Thread's asleep cmon.

@staypositivefriend
@Sloonei

Do you believe Grogu's claim?

sure

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:13 am Lol your idea of how to win is "lets all just try heaps hard". So idealistic. You can be town.

i have faith in all of us

since all of the town aligned factions can win if the enclaves all get eliminated by night 5, the real Gameplan should probably actually be everyone high-efforting and banding together to create a townsweep, before anyone has to worry about fulfilling their other win conditions

dont know if that'll happen though. i'm probably going to low effort a little bit, but im excited to be here nonetheless~

pros: sometimes i make the mafia cry

cons: i crumble if i don't have other people to bounce my thoughts off of

gameplan: No.

misc: i'm drinking vanilla coke right now. it's pretty good

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