The Syndicate

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.

The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill

boo entrances can be great indicators

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:11 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:37 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:39 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:08 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:58 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:35 pm of all the ppl chillin with their entrances schia felt the most awkward
I don't see it, I think Schiavetto entered fine
the self vote felt like trying too hard to me
trying too hard to what? it's early game

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:36 pm Quas not liking things for being awkward and hedgy seems so level 0 in general

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:36 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:38 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:34 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:27 pm

She made playlists for everyone in champs semis

She was a wolf.
That is not my point. (spamming non game related posts is kinda wolfy yeah, but doing it just after accusing someone of it is erraticaly townie... or just a joke. Let me time to get used to their posting style )
idk what youre saying here tho this is hedgy beyond belief
I don't like the call out for this post being hedgy
Before you ask and not read my posts, there you go, the reason behind my vote
too late i already asked but this reasoning sucks anyways. Wolves post hedgy stuff, why you so horny to defend wolfy folks?
Because this is a way I haven't seen you play

you've only see me play mashes but I think this is not what makes my mash play different from my small game play

in fact i depend a lot more on snap reads in mashes

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:29 am (Yes entrances can be good indicators but I don't want to carry on this conversation topic because I'll get in how to wolves push certain things and I['d rather just watch like a hawk and use my pro scumhunting skills that no one will listen to kek)

ok lol

i'm actually still struggling to understand cape's logic behind "wolves don't have awkward openings reliably, for example when i was a wolf i had a wolfy opening and nobody called me out for it so i won"

Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:31 am is this the off topic option

overwatch 2 is a bad game. if i get a push map one more time i am going to lose my mind.

go waste 3,000 hours in dota

or don't, your call

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:33 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:31 am i'm actually still struggling to understand cape's logic behind "wolves don't have awkward openings reliably, for example when i was a wolf i had a wolfy opening and nobody called me out for it so i won"
I'm debating if Cape TMI'd Scia or not. Right now I lean: Other people will check in and tell me so not my problem. I still think Sabi and nutella are wolfier

i'm not super sure what to make of sabi as a player yet. Think I need to play a few more games with them to get a grip there

haven't thought much about nut yet, saw your posts. Figured I'd just wait to see her post more before making a call

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:35 am As an LC one-trick I can say Dota is a good game.

they're giving out free arcanas right now if you log in

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:37 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:35 am
Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:33 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:31 am i'm actually still struggling to understand cape's logic behind "wolves don't have awkward openings reliably, for example when i was a wolf i had a wolfy opening and nobody called me out for it so i won"
I'm debating if Cape TMI'd Scia or not. Right now I lean: Other people will check in and tell me so not my problem. I still think Sabi and nutella are wolfier
i'm not super sure what to make of sabi as a player yet. Think I need to play a few more games with them to get a grip there

haven't thought much about nut yet, saw your posts. Figured I'd just wait to see her post more before making a call
My biggest problem is it felt like, half the stuff they were calling people out on for making no comments or doing anything was then followed up by then asking a lot of questions to almost fit the narrative that they weren't doing the exact thing they called people out on. it just seemed like a lot of busywork and I really hated the entire bundle of posts.

sorry who is this in reference to, nut?

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:38 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:37 am
Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:37 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:35 am
Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:33 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:31 am i'm actually still struggling to understand cape's logic behind "wolves don't have awkward openings reliably, for example when i was a wolf i had a wolfy opening and nobody called me out for it so i won"
I'm debating if Cape TMI'd Scia or not. Right now I lean: Other people will check in and tell me so not my problem. I still think Sabi and nutella are wolfier
i'm not super sure what to make of sabi as a player yet. Think I need to play a few more games with them to get a grip there

haven't thought much about nut yet, saw your posts. Figured I'd just wait to see her post more before making a call
My biggest problem is it felt like, half the stuff they were calling people out on for making no comments or doing anything was then followed up by then asking a lot of questions to almost fit the narrative that they weren't doing the exact thing they called people out on. it just seemed like a lot of busywork and I really hated the entire bundle of posts.
sorry who is this in reference to, nut?
Sabi.

Nutella just calls people out for level 1 posts that if you looked at on a base is "wolfy" it's pretty bad tbh

ok i just don't remember sabi calling people out much at all

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:40 am Also here is my bullshit:

Spoiler: show

i mean i see abbey road, built to spill, neutral milk hotel, and in rainbows and i can't be hating

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:41 am How do I IsO again help

click on posts in topic, took me a second as well. I kinda see what you mean by sabi now, she's only made throaway "__ is wolfy" posts which is why they didn't register as much with me but they have entirely been about players being lacking or whatever. have a hunch that could be player indicative though give me a few minutes

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:49 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:42 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:41 pm Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday
Do you have no thoughts or comments to make
This really pinged me because before this it's mostly filler (and it's rvs so grain of salt) but after it's just this mass of content and it felt so timed because they were barely making comments and then said this about Creature ewwww

from my *extremely* limited experience with sabi they seem to be content averse beyond drive by reads anyways. Not convinced they wouldn't just do it hypocritically as a villager is whats giving me pause

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:54 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:52 am
Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:49 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:42 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:41 pm Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday
Do you have no thoughts or comments to make
This really pinged me because before this it's mostly filler (and it's rvs so grain of salt) but after it's just this mass of content and it felt so timed because they were barely making comments and then said this about Creature ewwww
from my *extremely* limited experience with sabi they seem to be content averse beyond drive by reads anyways. Not convinced they wouldn't just do it hypocritically as a villager is whats giving me pause
Eh, most of there content I read based on this game did not give me the whole "arrogant villager that would make this kind of post" vibe but if I am wrong then it's not as bad. For now I've spammed the thread enough so I'll bow out.

i'm debating whether i want to backread other sabi games or if thats too much effort even for my comeback effort game

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:43 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:41 pm
Schiavetto wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:40 pm Petit's gross for the hasty vill read off of zero knowledge about me or the horse I came in on + weirdly self-aware followup

but.

But!!!!

If I am wrong and petit is town thatn quas is maybe wolfy for sliding in on that
is just a bad post. why call out me and not the other people who pointed out the same thing?
felt like you were just kind of jumping in to say what was already said but maybe that's just me not really feeling your post in the thread's overall rhythm

i think this post in particular is a much better example of what you're trying to get at @Cape90 and a good look for schia

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:00 am Never played with IAWY wolf but I did get the impression that they would try less as a wolf?
But then this also sounds like a terrible assumption

i was gonna try to claim like 2018 meta but this seems like a poor idea. I don't think IAWY is the kind of player to not try ever though. Not saying they'll sweat every game but they'll always try

i am going to be mildly amused if town!cape tunnels me twice in a row

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:05 am that unvote guy looking pretty good to vote [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

lol

okay i think cape is town

@Inawordyes 's mafia game is legendary as the Yates slayer

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:12 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:11 am @Inawordyes 's mafia game is legendary as the Yates slayer
Quas wishes he wasn't so obvious as scum

fully serious when i say the only player i actively am worried about pre rand as wolf is abraxas

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:13 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:12 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:11 am @Inawordyes 's mafia game is legendary as the Yates slayer
Quas wishes he wasn't so obvious as scum
fully serious when i say the only player i actively am worried about pre rand as wolf is abraxas

well ok pre rand doesn't make sense but you know what i mean

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:14 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:13 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:12 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:11 am @Inawordyes 's mafia game is legendary as the Yates slayer
Quas wishes he wasn't so obvious as scum
fully serious when i say the only player i actively am worried about pre rand as wolf is abraxas
who?

if you know you know

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:15 am Also, Liquid getting rekt by Pudge

i favored aster this game going in. ori is a monster on the hero and i don't believe in zai lesh this patch. storm has also looked not great. i do think matu can solo carry this game though

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:17 am @LordQuas @Chelsea its few hours into D1, I am going to throw out drive by reads that's what I do when games are uncapped.

My play style is like this.

that's what i was saying

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:19 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:17 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:15 am Also, Liquid getting rekt by Pudge

i favored aster this game going in. ori is a monster on the hero and i don't believe in zai lesh this patch. storm has also looked not great. i do think matu can solo carry this game though
People flame me when I pick pudge bruh

1 or 2 pudge is very gross rn. Not as insane as last patch but i think that hero is lowkey busted

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:22 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:21 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:19 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:17 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:15 am Also, Liquid getting rekt by Pudge

i favored aster this game going in. ori is a monster on the hero and i don't believe in zai lesh this patch. storm has also looked not great. i do think matu can solo carry this game though
People flame me when I pick pudge bruh
1 or 2 pudge is very gross rn. Not as insane as last patch but i think that hero is lowkey busted
I feel like I could play sniper in this game, dude just sitting 2 screens away shooting people

if you're liquid i think you just write this one as a draft issue and go next

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:43 am When will I make a game related post

presumably when ti is done for the night

might call it a night, planning on staying up for ti a so might pop in every so often but thread seems dead and i don't stay up this late often enough to use my brain much at the moment

out since early this morning, going to instantly run and be out again. Should be back quite late tonight to catch up and tomorrow morning

IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:11 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:11 pm
IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:09 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:07 pm
IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:04 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:47 pm
IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:41 pm

idk a couple hundred? Nothing has happened and it hasn't even been 24 hours, there's no reason for the average post per player to be in the double digits at this point
Wait... What
961/23 = ~42

Let's say 41 after deducting mod posts

That's still to high for an average for day 1 after less than 24 hours. Or idk maybe we just hit 24 hours. Still too much noise.
Complaining that there's a lot of posts is one thing; actively saying that people should have posted less is another. The fact that you're latching onto this is not a good look.
Give me a second to reply this, I'm not familiar with this board's emoji selection so it's going to take me a second to decide which one conveys the maximal amount of contempt, condescension and pure eye-rolling
Disengaging. I don't communicate with hostile players. Have a good game.
See now drawing lines in the sand to justify why you don't have to play the game is actually not a good look.

lines such as complaining about people playing the game?

not sure if i'll get the chance to catch up like I planned but I'm here for a bit

hm Creature might be in his rare low posting village meta but i can't actually with any confidence say he's not wolfing which is not a great sign for his alignment

i kinda thought cape was towny when i was real timing with him

dz was suitably weird earlier, guillo i might just sheep hk on but lemme go read that. Def not an inspiring start

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:17 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:16 pm i kinda thought cape was towny when i was real timing with him
Cape can do that as wolf.

He fooled me that way in a game he randed scum against me

yeah i'm sure. Honestly cape's willingness to back off of me could be wolf indicative for him

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:23 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:17 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:04 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:57 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:36 pm Quas not liking things for being awkward and hedgy seems so level 0 in general
seems to work though. you disagree that wolves struggle to post as naturally as town?
I think it's dependent on the person, I think in my scum game I won on this website I had a very awkward opener that townies acknowledged and brushed off.

It feels like too much stock is always put in those reads and it is really easy for mafia to take advantage of something that seems obvious like "player x's posts are awkward" it's why I am not vibing with nutella actually either
was your counter to "wolves have awkward openers >rand" really just "i had an awkward opener when i was a wolf so wolves don't have awkward openers"
I was trying to get at the fact that I wolves and town can be awkward in the beginning of their game so pushing on it seems easy and trivial and opportunistic. This is coming from a player who has less experience then a lot of forum mafia players

this whole interaction just came off to me as gut towny but its totally fakeable i suppose

guillo's iso was honestly fine EXCEPT specifically the push on chelsea that was extremely forced like he didn't actually have a reason to push chelsea he just wanted to

I kinda want to just leave creature alive to see what his claim does for shits

[VOTE: Guillotina] aubergine

@Chelsea if i let you double dip tonight is that a good thing. Just y/n

this site is slightly bugged for me some reason. Doesn't show embedded videos & I vote embeds don't work. Fine on mobile just here apparently so prolly like a cookie issue

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:33 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:31 pm Quick time read: Manny feels different to when he is scumming, feels more willing to shade others and jump on people tbh. And I don't disagree that Creature has been suspicious, going there is a bit iffy for me given the claim where Creature said that he's resolving for day 2 or whatever
Did you see what Wind said about a previous game where creature claimed to get out of a chop and was scum? I don't really want that to sway us when he has nothing else going for him

I haven't seen manny as wolf before so good to know

i think its entirely possible he's doing this but don't feel particularly inclined to risk it given setup. If he isn't lock clear we just kill him tomorrow, no excuses

@Cape90 before you leave out of curiosity if i let you double dip tonight would that do anything. Not saying I will

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:36 pm What is double dip

dip twice

low key my only super strong town read is chelsea so take that as you will

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:41 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:32 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:31 pm Quick time read: Manny feels different to when he is scumming, feels more willing to shade others and jump on people tbh.
How would you know if im different to when im scumming i literally have played 3 actual games so far and i randed town in all of them.

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:33 pm I haven't seen manny as wolf before so good to know
because i havent randed wolf yet idk where did he get that from unless Santy or SilverKeith told him about my wolf meta?.
@Cape90 @Cape90 @Cape90 @Cape90 @Cape90 @Cape90

not to put words in cape's mouth but didnt aro rand wolf in champs

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:42 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:41 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:40 pm cape still ignoring manny thing
I think he's lolcatting/anti spew mode...
I quite like how he pissed on my read tbh

zeus likes to be pissed on

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:43 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:41 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:32 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:31 pm Quick time read: Manny feels different to when he is scumming, feels more willing to shade others and jump on people tbh.
How would you know if im different to when im scumming i literally have played 3 actual games so far and i randed town in all of them.

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:33 pm I haven't seen manny as wolf before so good to know
because i havent randed wolf yet idk where did he get that from unless Santy or SilverKeith told him about my wolf meta?.
@Cape90 @Cape90 @Cape90 @Cape90 @Cape90 @Cape90
not to put words in cape's mouth but didnt aro rand wolf in champs
Manny isn't aro, he's just using a pfp schia gave him

this changes things

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:43 pm Re: Creature roleclaim. What kind of roles would be useful to town that could be proved at the start of a day phase? I haven't played much role madness.

vig, cop, a weird ic, some sort of booster / gift giver (arms dealer?)

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:45 pm Honestly Quas calling me lock town should worry me but it doesn't but I feel like it SHOULD.

i should be worried calling you lock town d1 but it doesn't but I feel like it SHOULD

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