The Syndicate

I’d laugh if alexa flips wolf

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:55 pm Somewhat worried about dyachei too. All they've done this game was shooting Marmot.

Their town stock rose with ilario’s claim

There’s other reasons to townread belzy regardless of the mason thing anyway

maybe i'll read the OP properly by endgame

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:39 pm I wonder how role selection would have worked if wolf captain chose that option.

Doubt it would be an option to pick in the roles list.

No idea how it would work if captain picks players though

i am so confused

Paopan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:29 am Btw.

It was Creature who unvoted TSP when I proposed we should vote TSP to save Guillo

hmmmmmmmmm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:09 pm Now Paopan 6
Creature 4

I really don't know what the wagon changes imply

It implies I'm indecisive.

@Sloonei

Who are creatures partners?

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:05 pm Though i have 2nd thoughts on Wilg.

What if Wilg is mafia?

flipped wolves were scattered at EoD1 on their votes which I think means they didn't care who died, probably implying wilgy is town

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:55 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:54 pm It's funny someone pointed DADV when Paopan was top wagon and suddenly Paopan was rescued.

What is a DADV?

dead air, dead villager

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:54 pm It's funny someone pointed DADV when Paopan was top wagon and suddenly Paopan was rescued.

That was me and falcon who unvoted. I am town and falcon is very likely town

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:52 pm Now Paopan is leading I am happy.

It's a tie. Alexa's vote doesn't count.

[VOTE: Paopan] aubergine

I'll make it 5-5

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

yes

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:41 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:39 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:34 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:29 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:25 pm Wasn't expecting a modkill today, but alright. She probably wasn't getting healed anyways since Neeko highly doubts there is a day doctor.
Honestly Creature is still probably a better kill than Paopan.

Why?



I'm not a fan of either slot, so what makes Creature more or less scum than Pao in your opinion?

It's mostly because if Mafia chose players Creature would be chosen over Paopan.
Also the Paopan v Alexa feels TvT especially since Paopan is still insisting Alexa is Mafia even though she's very unlikely to flip Mafia.

Pao might be the mafia captain. Also, we don't know if the mafia team picked players over roles yet.

So mafia team picked a bunch of VTs?

tbh I didn't read the flips lol

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:34 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:29 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:25 pm Wasn't expecting a modkill today, but alright. She probably wasn't getting healed anyways since Neeko highly doubts there is a day doctor.
Honestly Creature is still probably a better kill than Paopan.

Why?



I'm not a fan of either slot, so what makes Creature more or less scum than Pao in your opinion?

It's mostly because if Mafia chose players Creature would be chosen over Paopan.
Also the Paopan v Alexa feels TvT especially since Paopan is still insisting Alexa is Mafia even though she's very unlikely to flip Mafia.

Pao might be the mafia captain. Also, we don't know if the mafia team picked players over roles yet.

I felt more confident in my meta read on c4 than creature

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:08 pm I think we should be voting for Creature instead of Paopan, but I lack the time and energy to make a final push.

Please can you quickly summarise your thoughts on creature?

I'd look at your ISO but the ISO machine is broken

paopan is frustrating but it definitely started to feel like we were sleepwalking into his yeet

science

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:27 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:19 pm Post Alexa death Ilario pinged me.

Rn: Sabie OR Pao. Likely Pao. Not W/W but likely W in here.

If incorrect, I could also slap that Ilario button.

Yeah, I saw that too. Def strange. Is there any indication that ilario was starting to TR alexa before they died w/ no flip?

I assumed it was just guilt for the modkill

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:19 pm Post Alexa death Ilario pinged me.

Rn: Sabie OR Pao. Likely Pao. Not W/W but likely W in here.

If incorrect, I could also slap that Ilario button.

Why do you think they are not w/w?

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:17 am It's pretty obvious Alexa is a wolf. But very nice scumpaint

How is it "obvious"

don't be shy

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:15 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:13 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:12 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:07 am If you end up flipping town i swear to god...

I mean... the signs were there. If you are town and voted me. This is really on you.

"9 more hours to deduce who are the remaining 2 wolves"

How am I meant to interpret this?

2 remaining wolve after who? Pao?

That was how I originally read it, yeah

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:12 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:07 am If you end up flipping town i swear to god...

I mean... the signs were there. If you are town and voted me. This is really on you.

"9 more hours to deduce who are the remaining 2 wolves"

How am I meant to interpret this?

welcome to the JPIC talks to himself thread

putting my vote back on paopan

Maybe I'll just take it as a wolf claim and call it a day

If you end up flipping town i swear to god...

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:21 am 9 more hours to deduce who are the remaining 2 wolves

Anyway, I am a role that transcended down from the heavens and loyal to one person who I loved~
Oh lord, please provide for them and guide them.

Faith makes all evil good to us, and all good better; unbelief makes all good evil, and all evil worse.
Faith laughs at the shaking of the spear; unbelief trembles at the shaking of a leaf.

?????

It could be. Unfortunately Pao is unreadable and it is hard to parse his thoughts this game. The only time I remember him having some coherent thought was when he wanted to save guillo

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:50 am Could the TSP wagon be pure here?

no because it had hollowkatt

sig ( 13 ): alexa, Master Radishes, Paopan, falcon45ca, DrWilgy, Justplayingitcool, Belzy, sabie12, hollowkatt, TonyStarkPrime, c4e5g3d5, LinearPoint, 112
hollowkatt ( 11 ): Phil and Gloria, Master Radishes, Belzy, Paopan, Sloonei, sabie12, 112, falcon45ca, dyachei, DrWilgy, alexa
DrWilgy ( 10 ): sabie12, dyachei, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca, Paopan, Phil and Gloria, LinearPoint, hollowkatt, Creature, alexa
Guillotine ( 10 ): ilario, Belzy, Sloonei, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca, dyachei, TonyStarkPrime, 112, LinearPoint, Phil and Gloria
112 ( 9 ): Sabie, dya, alexa, paopan, TSP, creature, falcon, guillo, wilgy
c4e5g3d5 ( 9 ): Falcon, sabie, paopan, linearpoint, dya, sloonei, belzy, TSP, wilgy
sabie12 ( 9 ): DrWilgy, dyachei, Paopan, Sloonei, c4e5g3d5, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Phil and Gloria, 112
TonyStarkPrime ( 9 ): Master Radishes, alexa, Justplayingitcool, sabie12, DrWilgy, hollowkatt, Creature, LinearPoint, falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool ( 8 ): DrWilgy, dyachei, Sloonei, alexa, sabie12, ilario, Belzy, Paopan
Paopan ( 8 ): DrWilgy, Justplayingitcool, alexa, sabie12, hollowkatt, TonyStarkPrime, LinearPoint, Phil and Gloria
LinearPoint ( 7 ): Guillotine, Phil and Gloria, Sloonei, hollowkatt, Creature, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca
alexa ( 3 ): Phil and Gloria, guillo, TSP
falcon45ca ( 3 ): 112, Guillotine, Belzy
Phil and Gloria ( 3 ): 112, Belzy, hollowkatt
Master Radishes ( 2 ): Belzy, hollowkatt
Sloonei ( 2 ): hollowkatt, 112

midday vote count

Sloonei defended me and wilgy today (two slots in the PoE), albeit with less conviction wrt wilgy. One could argue that sloonei is defending wilgy because they are aligned, but if that were the case I think he would put up a much stronger defense that he provided. It was a very simple short reason. I have felt towny vibes from sloonei today, and a good point was made that P&G had an odd treatment of sloonei that perhaps implied they weren't partners.

One point in wilgy's favour is the votes from the flipped wolves on day 1 was pretty spread out. this feels it implies that seanzie was not a save on wilgy and scum did not care who died at day 1

I was not in the btsc with sabie/belzy/alexa. Im not sure what to make of what was going on in there, but I think I have to side with belzy/alexa seeing as it is 2v1 and both are outside of my POE and they were very adamant of what was said, or not.

would a team of sloonei/pao/sabie work?

for wilgy/sabie/pao to work, the wolves have decided to heavily bus pao and cut their losses

alexa - likely to just be town for raisins
Belzy - mech on porscha
dyachei - killed marmot. town stock dramatically rose with ilario 3p claim
falcon45ca - outted TSP and confirmed radishes. Is just town for the P&G crap at day 3.
LinearPoint - gave vest to alexa. Likely town if alexa town
Porscha - mech on belzy

My POE is probably just this:

Creature
DrWilgy
ilario
Paopan
sabie12
Sloonei

Sloonei/creature are probably the towniest people in my PoE.

Pao is just outrageously scummy and if he is town then he's not doing a great job of showcasing his townie self. Day 2 votes look decent and the fact nobody is defending him gives me some pause. A wolf!pao heavily implies that sabie is a wolf as well.

and then DrWilgy exists as a slot. An enigma.

If there is a mafia outside of my PoE then I think we lose as we will never get there. Pao and Sabie feel like the most likely hits in my poe outside of Ilario who is a claimed 3p (they're never endgaming).

just posting these for reference

hollowkatt (16): Creature, sig, LinearPoint, Belzy, 112, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, Sloonei, dyachei, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca, alexa, sabie12, Guillotine, Master Radishes, Phil and Gloria
sig (11): Sloonei, Belzy, 112, Porscha, falcon45ca, alexa, sabie12, LinearPoint, Master Radishes, Phil and Gloria, Justplayingitcool
112 (10): Sloonei, Porscha, hollowkatt, sig, TonyStarkPrime, alexa, dyachei, DrWilgy, Paopan, Guillotine
Guillotine (9): 112, Creature, Sloonei, Master Radishes, dyachei, Justplayingitcool, LinearPoint, ilario, DrWilgy
DrWilgy (8): TonyStarkPrime, c4e5g3d5, dyachei, hollowkatt, 112, sabie12, Paopan, LinearPoint
TonyStarkPrime (8): Paopan, Porscha, Belzy, Guillotine, Justplayingitcool, falcon45ca, hollowkatt, Master Radishes
sabie12 (5): alexa, sig, falcon45ca, hollowkatt, Phil and Gloria
c4e5g3d5 (4): Phil and Gloria, sig, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

having said that, maybe Pao is this GoC's version of Kaif

I think I have to agree with Sloonei's observation on Pao. It does feel easy and nobody is coming forward to his defense so far today

Pao constantly making drive-by posts and dipping is annoying lol.

How am i flying under the radar

What the heck happened here while i was asleep

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:24 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:21 pm Mac has so far been the only mafia flipped that has pushed Wilgy.
But most of Wilgy's wagonis still alive: sabie12, dyachei, falcon45ca, Paopan, LinearPoint, Creature, alexa

Mac seems like someone distancing.

I think someone mentioned before that Mac has bussed a lot as a wolf. could be wrong

creature have you ever top posted as a wolf before