The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:20 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:17 am I read the first sentence and stopped. Trusting a 3P HAS NEVER GONE WRONG IN THE HISTORY OF MAFIA.
We’re not really trusting ilario with anything. Alexa is already poisoned. She’a flipping today whether we trust ilario or not.

Yeah, so I guess we leave them both for today and kill elsewhere?

I read the first sentence and stopped. Trusting a 3P HAS NEVER GONE WRONG IN THE HISTORY OF MAFIA.

Yeah don’t out ilario, i think ur likely town

I guess the most suspicious thing i find about alexa is that she was shot n3? But wasn’t double tapped for the kill and they went for radishes instead

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:37 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:21 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:17 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:14 am If creature AND alexa are wolves it means my entire worldview is wrong
what's your entire worldview?
That they are town - i have been townreading creature since D2 and thought the mech stuff is in Alexa’s favour

Wilgy
Pao
Sabie
Sloonei

Is my current PoE from the top of my head, but I appreciate i need to look back and read mac’s iso when i have time. Radish had you as town iirc so im gonna respect his legacy
Ask yourself how the mafia team is likely to be playing this phase.

To annoy me

Depends on the team but i guess in generally they’d be trying to interpret mac/tsp spew asap to fit their preferred worldview

If you think u were the nk (when alexa was supposedly shot) then i have info that this is incorrect

Also explain the nk

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:17 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:14 am If creature AND alexa are wolves it means my entire worldview is wrong
what's your entire worldview?

That they are town - i have been townreading creature since D2 and thought the mech stuff is in Alexa’s favour

Wilgy
Pao
Sabie
Sloonei

Is my current PoE from the top of my head, but I appreciate i need to look back and read mac’s iso when i have time. Radish had you as town iirc so im gonna respect his legacy

If creature AND alexa are wolves it means my entire worldview is wrong

If Alexa is wolf, do you think she is lying about the bo vest and being shot?

[VOTE: pao] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:41 pm Well, I'm somewhat wary of the soup, but fuggit

I shot P &G

Wut

Wouldn’t surprise me if there was a third party within dya and ilario lol

Would pao, sabie and Sloonei work for the final 3?

Did HK ever say why he claimed? Always thought it was weird

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:24 pm I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

Same

We should have listened to gullotine lol

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:11 pm Pretty sure it's going to end up being Paopan, JPIC, and Wiggly.
Sabie doesn't seem like they are going to be Mafia.
ilario or dya may flip scum just because another dayvig flipped Town, but are low priority.
sloonie or Creature also might, but just don't seem more likely than the above 3.

I have wanted to kill pao and wilgy numerous of times

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:06 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:01 pm ok me/sabie/belzy killed mac with our event prize vig

also omg can anyone heal me .-.
3 people got vig and all shot the same person?

I imagine it was one vig and they all had to decide who to shoot

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:06 pm Should be three wolves left, right?

Yes

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:03 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:02 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:01 pm ok me/sabie/belzy killed mac with our event prize vig

also omg can anyone heal me .-.
Nice

So sabie and belzy confirmed then?
well i'm confirming belzy as town

sabie is technically not confirmed because it was a majority vote

also sabie said they were shooting paopan and iddn't??

I see

Thought the consensus that sabie would holster because soup

So any reason sloonei isn’t scum?

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:01 pm ok me/sabie/belzy killed mac with our event prize vig

also omg can anyone heal me .-.

Nice

So sabie and belzy confirmed then?

@falcon45ca

What was your check?

Tony Stark was always the worst MCU hero

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:06 pm I think there are only 3-4 people that can read me well enough to *confidently* catch me wolfin. One of those people haven't done so yet this game. If anything that should indicate me as town, but I'm surprised this person hasn't just called me town yet. Pondering that one.

Is this referring to Mac?

nice double post

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:46 pm I think JPIC is my top non-conf town. I just detect a streak of v!JPIC even if it's more muted than I want.

I'm sorry; I just don't have the energy to play mafia games as I once did

I am here for jpic takes tho

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:46 pm I think JPIC is my top non-conf town. I just detect a streak of v!JPIC even if it's more muted than I want.

I'm sorry; I just don't have the energy to play mafia games as I once did

I am here for jpic takes tho

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:25 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:14 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:12 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:00 pm And everyone has gone for a rest now that we have TSP lined up, and I get that, but honestly @alexa @Belzy @Porscha @falcon45ca you guys are increasingly likely to be souped soon, so now may be your last chance to say things.
Lynch Mac.
Why? What's your reasoning?

And what else? Who else do you scumread or townread? Give me a rundown as a legacy post in case you get killed?
Tomorrow, start with lynching Mac no matter what. Likely continue with lynching Wilg and or Sloonei, maybe Sabie but not sure. I am not sure about jpic.

What aren't you sure on?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:34 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:39 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:39 pm This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends

This is the way the world ends

read ilario's posts on Creature.

Still think Creature is town. If he is wolf he has done very well to imitate his town game

maybe im biased but it should tell you something nobody from the non-confirms left alive have defended me this game...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:48 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:00 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 am Someone tell me Sloonei's agenda this game as scum, or where he has been clearly helping wolves, or something.
Only thing that comes to mind is that he's cased two villagers so far (assuming LP is a villager), and he's tried to paint me as scum albeit on a smaller scale. Not sure what his reads were like wrt dizzy, marmot and tsp
You are in the POE. I have done no painting.

same thing

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 am Someone tell me Sloonei's agenda this game as scum, or where he has been clearly helping wolves, or something.

Only thing that comes to mind is that he's cased two villagers so far (assuming LP is a villager), and he's tried to paint me as scum albeit on a smaller scale. Not sure what his reads were like wrt dizzy, marmot and tsp

good morning

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:14 pm Could JPIC moan about being cqlled a wolf as wolf?

I only complain when im towny as fuck

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:56 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:41 pm Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha
Just cuz I like staring at coloured lists.

What's clear is the scum did the usual thing where they don't want to sit too close together as if wagon proximity will give them away. What's unclear is how much of that was based around Wilgy; if Wilgy is town, the flavour of how they made their vote choices will be different.

I think there are certain slots that just have to be wolves. If we end up flipping e.g. Wilgy and he's town, suddenly we're running out of PoE space and we need to open up to dya/ilario or something.

What are people's thoughts on LP btw?

I think LP is town

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:56 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:51 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:50 am I do have to say, a team of dizzy/marmot/TSP/Mac/wilgy/sabie/Sloonei (or some combo like that) sure feels like Sabie or Wilgy randed wolf captain.

But also they've had a tracker and role cop flip, which shows a wolf captain thinking about finding out roles for a potential soup kill. That feels deliberate.
I still think Mac/TSP fits weirdly considering how they both treated my slot day 2. But Mac is being an ass so screw him.
Summarise what you mean by that? I've 'caught up' but, you know, I can't keep everything I've read in my head all at once (unless it pertains to me).

--

Mac is, in order of likelihood, either:

(a) a wolf who hasn't had the time or ability to control the thread, so went for a 'twtbw' and is now doubling down and hoping we shrug and go 'wtf, twtbw' and let him live for now. Refuge in audacity and all that. Along the same line, w!Mac is also trying to disrupt town solving process but surely now realises it isn't working but can't suddenly flip his approach away from that.

(b) town who is deliberately acting this way for some reason he thinks will be beneficial in the long run

(c) town who truly believes what he is saying

oh god, I gtg but I'll quickly answer

tsp and mac both unvoted just before the midday deadlines, which put tsp up for voting contention instead of me

ok, gtg for realsies now. going to a football match

up the palace

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:50 am I do have to say, a team of dizzy/marmot/TSP/Mac/wilgy/sabie/Sloonei (or some combo like that) sure feels like Sabie or Wilgy randed wolf captain.

But also they've had a tracker and role cop flip, which shows a wolf captain thinking about finding out roles for a potential soup kill. That feels deliberate.

I still think Mac/TSP fits weirdly considering how they both treated my slot day 2. But Mac is being an ass so screw him.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:46 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:04 am All I ask is to be taken out of the POE and create teams with me not in it. I'm cleared because no mafia captain would pick me in their team lol
What makes
U sure they picked players and not roles?

I'm not; but I don't think my role would be useful for scum compared to the other roles we have seen in the game.

The best part of game ending is I can laugh at all the people who dared thought I was a wolf

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:29 am Fuck you JPIC I have better things to do than this.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:36 am Oh hi radishes

I have determined to read both you and c4’s iso because i think i can read you both decently well

Probably will check marmot’s iso if he is playing as well

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:47 am I want to kill marmot just for this post

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:17 am Is there a red on nutella too? I really did miss a lot.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:33 pm Do we just lynch Marmot?
sell me
'Retract' was the wrong word perhaps, but this implies you're not fully convinced despite your earlier statement.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:16 am Oh hey, my gut feeling on marmot was correct
I can see how this sort of progression on a scum player comes from a partner.

You make an excuse for isoing Marmot, hedge it and pretend to not even know if he's playing, find something to call scummy, say nothing again and in fact push someone to 'sell you' on it, then after the flip be like 'aha so I was right.'

That's a narrative that could exist. I'm not saying it IS the correct narrative, but it is not a stretch of the imagination to believe it.

I'm still calling you town so go to bed.

That was me having a gut reaction on marmot. I thought marmot's post at the time was a classic post a wolf makes; it wasn't something I felt massively strong on true but enough to have some suspicions.

I asked Creature to 'sell me' because I didn't know what his thought process was as I felt he made a out of nowhere post. It's also why I suspected creature because it felt like he was dragging his heels across the floor

also i need to exert my towny self on the thread even more because I am clearly not doing a good enough job

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:23 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:07 am has anyone checked for tsp spew
I really can't be bothered to parse his iso.

TSP is good at throwing all sorts of shit at the wall, even as town. I don't know that I'd trust conventional partner hunting techniques.

Maybe check other peoples ISOs that talk about TSP then? idk

I need to make sure you lock shield me so Mac can't peddle his fake news on the thread

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:23 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:21 am @Master Radishes

where did I retract on marmot?
Are you really gonna make me re-open your iso for this

I've said I think you're town

Yes

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:22 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:04 am All I ask is to be taken out of the POE and create teams with me not in it. I'm cleared because no mafia captain would pick me in their team lol
Anyone who watched you in Champs would consider it. You crushed the town in G5.

You're not Radiohead JPIC anymore.

it was a fluke that won't be repeated

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