The Syndicate

ah damn no it doesnt work like that. it activates on the next day after he loses his first life. so he will be here for night 5 after he survives this yeet, and he will vanish for day 6 and night 6, and u guys will have to yeet him on day 7 when he reappears

wait actually if thundercat is the obliterator and he vanishes himself today, does that mean he won't be able to obliterate me? that would be pretty cool

+ long con townsiding makes me feel more relaxed. still not 100% sure we will win even if everyone's alignment is more or less revealed at this point

i mean hell, i could even be fakeclaiming here (im not) and thundercat would be outed wolf by his lack of reaction and going in anti-spewing

C O W A R D L Y

W O L V E S

D E S E R V E

T O

L O S E

imagine thundercat not even attempting to cc me imagine being such a coward. lame!!!

ccing as wolf is such an underused skill that ppl should train to do and utilize more often to win more games

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:09 am we should treat it as if this is not the case, but it's possible martin yeeted a crime boy last night

he did what?

MAN THIS IS FUCKED UP

I AM GETTING FUCKING FLASHBACKS

OF ANOTHER GAME

WHERE I FUCKING BEGGED LONG CON THE 3P TO TOWNSIDE

AND NANOOK HAD A MECH CLAIM THAT KILLED A MAFIA MEMBER

AND I WAS THE FUCKING COP

FUCK THIS. FUCK THIS. FUCK THIS

@Grand Scheme pls pls pls pls pls townside pls dont betray us alison helped u win pls pls help us win pls i love uuuuu

whoooos my favorite canadian? whooooooos the cutest Bane? its YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:28 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:27 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:25 am Was there talk of a mafia roleblocker earlier, due to townie people being roleblocked? Is that accounted for on the days that tutuu checked nova/kyle?

welll martin was roleblocked but he believes flanders was the town auto roleblocker

otherwise i dunno

its not thundercat he has no roleblocking stuff. i kinda doubt the hidden 3p also has any

so the traitor or the last main pack wolf could have a roleblock something something. shrug

why would martin know that?

i dunno thats what he said. check one of his last posts, under the spoiler

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:25 am Was there talk of a mafia roleblocker earlier, due to townie people being roleblocked? Is that accounted for on the days that tutuu checked nova/kyle?

welll martin was roleblocked but he believes flanders was the town auto roleblocker

otherwise i dunno

its not thundercat he has no roleblocking stuff. i kinda doubt the hidden 3p also has any

so the traitor or the last main pack wolf could have a roleblock something something. shrug

112 might be the traitor is my initial reaction. let me go over the playerlist again

long con can u explain why martin died please?

also can i take a deal with u today? do u got any more of those?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:16 am Yeah it's Long Con/Grand Scheme.

I promised to wait for objections in BTSC but I really can't see the downside so I'll just do it now.

oh okay

i thought he's pretty towny lol i can never read LC

well then

if its 112 this gets easier and i will feel more relaxed. i think we might make a flawless poe today

oh the GD is long con or 112 aren't they? leaning towards 112 since alison interacted with long con a bit more? hm. dunno

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:07 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:45 am martin claimed that he thinks nanook is the auto-roleblocker

not sure if i should put the effort to re-read his stuff and check if that makes sense and nook could be fakeclaiming as scum now

or i shouldnt cuz it might let the obliterator anti claim some more

you are once again misremembering things, martin said SSF was autoblocker

oh okay

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:07 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:38 am Thundercat where’d you go

Check scum chat I’m yelling at you to CC

This reads like a red check on TC.

i claimed the red peek on thundercat in the post u quoted yourself earlier, there is no way its the town hidden role

(and i outed the red peek btw, nanook has stayed silent)

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:05 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:04 am i just need to get this out of my system

we (the town) shouldnt lose because of martin being greedy with the gambit demon and macdougall shooting chuck. these were our only mistakes, literally everything else was flawless. it doesnt make sense for us to lose this game when we play flawlessly

I don't understand why you're worried about losing? nanook has outed a red check on Thundercat, we're still up by a billion numbers.

its 9 v 5, with thundercat needing to be yeeted twice its 9 v 6, mafia has 2 KP per night out of the sudden + they have the odd-night obliterator anti-claim that is going to kill me tonight. 3 towns will die tonight and no scum will get yeeted because of lynchproof roles

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:04 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:40 am i may have indirectly slipped gambit demon id by omission (or at least narrowed down to like 2 ppl) in my poe post a bit ago, so have fun puzzling that out but i'll leave it to alison to decide whether to actually reveal

I'm weighing that atm.

GD claims to me that they've fulfilled their win condition now and plan to chill and townside. I don't think we ever exe them, but it might be correct to out them. I don't think they can offer any more deals once their win con has been achieved (nor should people take any deals offered in case of *shenanigans*), and they don't count for parity, so if Obliterator kills them it's fine with us right?

yea that would be good

i just need to get this out of my system

we (the town) shouldnt lose because of martin being greedy with the gambit demon and macdougall shooting chuck. these were our only mistakes, literally everything else was flawless. it doesnt make sense for us to lose this game when we play flawlessly

lol

unless roleblocked lol

i cant tell the difference between a green peek and getting roleblocked by design of the setup i believe

and reminder that i have green peeks on nova and kylemii

if the gambit demon claimed to be nova that was a lie, i found no secrets on nova

thundercant can't be the gambit demon because nothing mentions deals (in my cop result)

cant be the hidden 3p because it doesnt make sense to only put a 3p that can self-protect once and give it nothing else too

he could be the last main pack wolf, i suppose he could be the traitor, i think obliterator

thundercat confirmed mafia, i suggest yeeting there, unless something new comes up that reveals another mafia

i sincerely think town has like 10% chance to win or even less due to us simply not having the mech tools to kill scum despite us having almost flawless poe all game and yeeting scum every day. kinda dont wanna play, it just doesnt feel fair

martin claimed that he thinks nanook is the auto-roleblocker

not sure if i should put the effort to re-read his stuff and check if that makes sense and nook could be fakeclaiming as scum now

or i shouldnt cuz it might let the obliterator anti claim some more

i feel like thundercat makes sense to be the obliterator

after he loses his first life he can "vanish" himself for an extra day + night phase and carry on anti claiming

its a pretty strong protection that makes sense to put on the boss

either that or the unknown 3p who also has strong self-protection

oh wait its turnip head lmao

just woke up

wait

myo isnt in the poll

I KNEW IT I WAS REDIRECTED

look, myo isnt in the poll

he vanished

just like i said about thundercat's role

i was redirected to myo last night

thundecat surviving a yeet is like an extra scum member lol

16 vs 10 (instead of default 16 v 9)

and if myo is also scum then 16 vs 11

how we supposed to win 16 vs 11?

we srsly might lose this game despite playing flawlessly and yeeting scum every day

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:30 am GD informs me that they've fulfilled their win condition today. Should we exe them to be safe or find mafia? I'm leaning towards the latter atm because if 2 kills a night keeps happening our lead might shrink fast.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

right i did misread. i thought this says former

well i townread sig based off of play

could we have the identity of GD be revealed please?

we dont have time to yeet them. we need to yeet thundercat twice

forgot NIK, put him as yellow i guess

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:27 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:21 am 9 v 3 v 2

we might lose this game

i dont know why martin suicided for no reason

don't think he did? he said he knew he was going to die and the post made it sound like it was a poisonish sort of thing (maybe secret 3p?)

he claimed for no reason, making him susceptible to anticlaim, but primarily he took the 2nd deal and died to the gambit demon

it said he died for his greed

9 town and 5 non-town

sig is the gambit demon as claimed by alison

myo and thundercat both scum

tutuu, nova, kylemii - mech town (as long as u think im not fakeclaiming)

alison, nutella - most likely town due to dayplay

thats 5 town and 3 non-town

leaving 4 town and 2 non-town in: 112, long con, joe who?, KZA, NIK, nanook

KZA is uncced oracle and he was pretty open about it

long con is i think towny by play too. so im gonna put them as town

tutuu
nova
kylemii
nutella
alison
KZA
Long Con
112
Nanook
joe who?
myo
thundercat
sig

im basically alignment cop + role cop combined

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:22 am There weren’t any secrets in poly’s role how would you get it in its entirety

the entire thing was a secret. thats how the game was designed (refer to the OP)

9 v 3 v 2

we might lose this game

i dont know why martin suicided for no reason

i hate people who survive yeets. thats bastard in my standard of mafia

its ... not rly fair when we have no KP

(looking at thundercat and myo)

also joe who? is pretty scummy and probably scum

im the flavor cop

my role discovers secrets as written in the op. no town roles has secrets except maybe the secret town role

n1 - polypies

i made it abundantly clear that he was scum. i had his exact role. i hinted at it pretty hard, voting him for no reason, starting the day with "poly scum" and voting him repeatedly. i didnt reazlie dead ppl get janitored. so i left hints.

n2 - nova

no result. i thought this meant i was roleblocked so i didnt hint. it took me time to realize that me getting no result could mean i got roleblocked, but could also mean i peeked town. but he's mech clear town unless i was redirected / godfather shenanigans

n3 - kylemii

same like. i said they're both town to hint as tho i have green peeks on them, still not rly realizing that dead ppl get anitored

n4 - thundercat

(paraphrased)

he can survive the first attempt on his life. when he loses this first life, he can vanish a player for one day and one night. this activates the next day after this thing triggering. he must predesignate a target for this. he can self-target

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a bit weird to me because that appears to be myo's role, he did survive the yeet. i might have been redirected. but no player vanished this day. so i dunno

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in conculsion:

nova, kylemii - almost certainly town

thundercat - almost certainly scum

myo - most likely scum aswell? the mayor flavor doesnt make sense to me. it says the mayor stops the yeet. myo SURVIVED the yeet.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:10 am presuming they saved themself and the mayor isnt someone else who decided to save her bc ??? but who knows

i understood that as myo being lynch proof for that day at least therefore confirmed scum. if it was no yeet wouldnt the flavor been different?

anyway i have some stuff to say. let me see

Nobody reviews syndicate games afaik hosts have full autonomy

I dont know enough about the secret roles but if the obliterator is hard capped at 1 kp per night (or even less) the setup was definitely breakable with d1 massclaim imo

It might be too late

13v5 if we go with cc its up to 2 kp per night for mafia obliterator might be every night

Its not* too late

Its too late

Should we force the poe to claim?

If we have a cc from a town we trade 1 for 1 its worth

If we dont, obliterator might kill the scummy town for us. Or smth

We arent abusing enough the fact that every town role is unique and written in the op

I didnt realize night killed ppl are janitored

This auto janitor is whats keeping a mass claim in check

The obliterator appears to be once on odd night

We could have broken the setup with a d1 massclaim

Why did we shoot chuck didnt he repeatedly claim the armorsmith thing before flanders and falcon (janitored town) died

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:10 pm i've been killed a couple of times early recently after the mafia were getting stomped and the entire game turns to shit lol. If I shoot wrong and then the mafia manage to kill a couple more vocal townies they can win back the momentum pretty easily.

I will shoot I just want to shoot right.

i wouldnt shoot nova or kyleemi

i think nova and kylemii might be town