The Syndicate

Dizzy is the role wilgy revealed. If he is mafia he is mafia but he is still that role

I dont think its likely he would have used his only shot nutella

I suppose its likely that he didnt, and that martin reveived feedback telling him that his roleblocked failed due to nutellas action being unblockable, but then how would dizzy know to chime in? He would have no way of knowing martins role or the feedback martin got if dizzy is mafia its too convoluted i think to take advantage of mech claims like that and make his claim

Dizzy is a great wolf player basesfoff the way he talks and makes posts but i have no reasons to believe he is a scum mech prodigy and i believe his sincerity that convoluted mech games are not his thing

I know that he is a great wolf but the evidence here points to him being town imo

Also shouldnt strongman kill nullify nutellas role?

At least if i was the game designer i would make it so if nutella was strongman killed her role doesnt get to activate and she doesnt get to revive jack

If he attempted to strongman kill nutella why would martin get told that his roleblock on nutella failed?

Because nutella disappeared and her action cant be roleblocked?

I suppose i cant argue that this cant be a possibility. It is. But we know dizzys role to exist by wilgy. Wilgy said "mega protector" or something

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:49 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:48 am Also if dizzy strongman killed martin i also dont think that martin would have been explicitly told that only him roleblocking nutella has failed

But regardless a protective role is confirmed to exist and dizzy is the one claiming it
I want to understand your first sentence

Martin has two portions to his role - he protects his target from night kill and he roleblocks them

On n3 he said that he received a night result from the hosts telling him that his roleblocking part failed. That and only that

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:46 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:37 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:34 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:29 am
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Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:27 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:25 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:23 am
I don't doubt Dizzy targeted Nutella, but I doubt now it was protection. I don't see how protection would nullify a roleblock, and a thing that could have the result of failed roleblock on n3 could be a strongman kill.
Idk why you don't consider this part of my idea when you answer me, because that would explain some things
Mafia would kill Nutella but she make that move of switching herself with Jack, and all that Dizzy if he is mafia could do was to invent a role to match the result, in a way that could be accepted by everyone.
I don't know if this is true but we shouls check how that claim was posted and when
Nothing explains why Wilgy received Dizzy's role, except mafia imposed a result to be expressed itt to verify a role that may not exist.
But dizzy claimed the role BEFORE wilgy's result
Dizzy claimed after Nutella switched with Jack, so in day 4
Yeah, and wilgy revealed his result on the day we yeeted ted
That was later in the game. Now we know Wilgy as villager would not invent the result, but at contrary, would post what he received

Why received Wilgy, instead of my role, and after i was visited by Ted, a role claimed by someone who wasn't targeted that night ?
Isn't this convenient to confirm that the role is in the game?
The theory that mafia has a framer esque role that implanted a manufactured feedback result for wilgy that dizzy the mafia had full control over and then dizzy the mafia claiming that manufactured feedback result as a role seems like a very far fetched theory and seems less likely than dizzy being town and mafia having some kind of redirecting powers
Lets find the logic of redirections, if Ted targeted Martin, me and himself, then someone targeted Wilgy to receive Dizzy's claimed role? Is this possible? Why exactly Dizzy's?

Are we sure there is one mafia left itg? Or there can be 2?

Radishes attempted to make wilgy target himself too on that night

I dont have the answer for what happened

Busdriver should in theory resolve first

But long con received results from tracking ted, he didnt track u, unless u visited all those 3 people

So bus driver didnt resolve before long cons track

So we have no way of knowing i think, and things are being resolved in ways that arent conventional by the looks of it

Also if dizzy strongman killed martin i also dont think that martin would have been explicitly told that only him roleblocking nutella has failed

But regardless a protective role is confirmed to exist and dizzy is the one claiming it

We dont know what the order of operations is unfortunately, some of the syndicate admins are working on setting some kind of standards for future games but its not here yet

Martin (if memory serves) claimed that he was told that only the roleblocking part of his role didnt work on nutella. He wasnt told that his protective part on nutella didnt work.

If his entire action fizzles because the nutella slot was empty, i think he would have gotten the result that his entire action didnt work, and he wouldnt reveive elaboration thay only the "negative"(by his own words) part of his role didnt work

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:34 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:29 am
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Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:27 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:25 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:23 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 am
Wiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
LC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martin

martin died on that night, so martin was the victim of the factional kill

im not sure if anyone received a ted song on that night. but i think that we can assume that ted busdrove himself with you?

remember that martin claimed that he received feedback from the hosts on night 3 when he targeted nutella telling him that the negative part of his role (the roleblocking) didnt work, only that part. he was expplicitly told about it

no one else have claimed i believe to interact / protectnutella on that night. tony didnt. dizzy is the only claimant

so i believe we have confirmation that some dizzy targeted nutella on n3 and protected nutella from getting roleblocked, i believe this is confirmed

its not a 100% town peek on dizzy i guess u can argue that but i believe its confirmed that dizzy protected nutella from getting roleblocked by martin n3 (even if there are mafia shenanigans i dont see a way in which this isnt confirmed)
I don't doubt Dizzy targeted Nutella, but I doubt now it was protection. I don't see how protection would nullify a roleblock, and a thing that could have the result of failed roleblock on n3 could be a strongman kill.
Idk why you don't consider this part of my idea when you answer me, because that would explain some things
Mafia would kill Nutella but she make that move of switching herself with Jack, and all that Dizzy if he is mafia could do was to invent a role to match the result, in a way that could be accepted by everyone.
I don't know if this is true but we shouls check how that claim was posted and when
Nothing explains why Wilgy received Dizzy's role, except mafia imposed a result to be expressed itt to verify a role that may not exist.
But dizzy claimed the role BEFORE wilgy's result
Dizzy claimed after Nutella switched with Jack, so in day 4
Yeah, and wilgy revealed his result on the day we yeeted ted
That was later in the game. Now we know Wilgy as villager would not invent the result, but at contrary, would post what he received

Why received Wilgy, instead of my role, and after i was visited by Ted, a role claimed by someone who wasn't targeted that night ?
Isn't this convenient to confirm that the role is in the game?

The theory that mafia has a framer esque role that implanted a manufactured feedback result for wilgy that dizzy the mafia had full control over and then dizzy the mafia claiming that manufactured feedback result as a role seems like a very far fetched theory and seems less likely than dizzy being town and mafia having some kind of redirecting powers

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:23 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked

we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3

why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
Wiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
LC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martin

martin died on that night, so martin was the victim of the factional kill

im not sure if anyone received a ted song on that night. but i think that we can assume that ted busdrove himself with you?

remember that martin claimed that he received feedback from the hosts on night 3 when he targeted nutella telling him that the negative part of his role (the roleblocking) didnt work, only that part. he was expplicitly told about it

no one else have claimed i believe to interact / protectnutella on that night. tony didnt. dizzy is the only claimant

so i believe we have confirmation that some dizzy targeted nutella on n3 and protected nutella from getting roleblocked, i believe this is confirmed

its not a 100% town peek on dizzy i guess u can argue that but i believe its confirmed that dizzy protected nutella from getting roleblocked by martin n3 (even if there are mafia shenanigans i dont see a way in which this isnt confirmed)
I don't doubt Dizzy targeted Nutella, but I doubt now it was protection. I don't see how protection would nullify a roleblock, and a thing that could have the result of failed roleblock on n3 could be a strongman kill.
Idk why you don't consider this part of my idea when you answer me, because that would explain some things
Mafia would kill Nutella but she make that move of switching herself with Jack, and all that Dizzy if he is mafia could do was to invent a role to match the result, in a way that could be accepted by everyone.
I don't know if this is true but we shouls check how that claim was posted and when
Nothing explains why Wilgy received Dizzy's role, except mafia imposed a result to be expressed itt to verify a role that may not exist.

No, youre mixing things up. "The thing that could have the result of a failed roleblock could be a strongman kill" - yes in theory. But it has nothing to do with our case, because nutella was the one getting roleblocked, not dizzy

We know nutella died by her own role, she claimed it after her death using hyenas role

In radiohead mafia there was a town role that protected a target from all disruptive effects including getting roleblocked, i acknowledge that you think that such a role is weird but i dont think its weird, i have seen it before, wilgy also confirmed it

Even if dizzy is a mafia strongman killer, he also proteted nutella from getting roleblocked n3

wilgy: attempts to visit michelle
radish: makes wilgy visit wilgy
result = wilgy visits dizzy

lol

you should all just vote tim, he's the last mafia

surely if made redirected wilgy on the night wilgy claimed that role cop he would have claimed it right? he definitely would have

so yeah scum has ... a busdriver i think. or something like that. redirector-esque

either that, and / or the interactions between the compexity of some of the roles wasnt accounted for, and some resolutions of some of the action were made up on the spot

or syn is mafia and he somehow inhereted ted's busdriving power after ted got yeeted and he used tht but no lol. syn isnt mafia based off day talk

but i find no reasonabl explanatinos for the mechanics

kyle thinks he got busdriven, im assuming an ambiguous feedack message

made attempted to target kyle, and ended up targetting himself

so... someone busdrove made with kyle?

or ... made has a role thats like. "target a player. for every other player that targets your chosen player this night, redirect their actions back to them"

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:59 pm i'm confused by the thief process last night

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:00 pm i didn't get a busdrive but i think i maybe got busdrove? but also idk what that even means

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:00 pm my vote is worth 2 today, somehow, because i stole from made

kyle stole made's power on day 7

i need to find out who did kyle targeted after he stole made's ability

kyle stole made's ability

made attempted to give post restriction to kyle on the same night (given by alison)

made ended up targetting himself with it

made is a redirector

how does this all tie

kyle also did mention that there were a bunch of inconsistencies / the hosts overlooking some interactions / the hosts arguing about "should this work like that"

so about made's role - looks like he received all of those abilities pretty fast. 1 scrap for 1 vote on the yeet wagon. day 1 we had like what - 10 votes? or maybe less

i think he fully unlocked his ability by like day 4

let me try to dig up if he talk / claimed / implied tht he redirected wilgy to dizzy

but im ttrying to think - does this explain why he redirected himself from kyle to himself?

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:10 am
Day 8...intermission

You may not be able to see yourself dead in your dreams...
but you sure can see others dying.

When a hero sacrifices themselves for the greater good,
is it always in the best interest?

Dodo needs to keep sleeping and keep dreaming to find out.

Made has not made it out alive.

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Made was Engi Crewmember, Town.

Collect scrap to trade in for a new ability. Scrap for that Day equals the number of votes the Day’s victim received. Every five scrap unlocks the next tier. Example: Five scrap collected and cashed in = a modest ability. Thirty-five scrap collected and cashed in = a superb ability.

Dual Lasers: Your vote is worth two.
Med Bay: Two votes against you will not count.
Halberd Beam: Add a vote by PM to two adjacent names on the poll
Flak Cannon: Make any three additional votes by PM (must be different names)
Mind Control: Control the person your target will target at Night
Zoltan Shield: Any single attempt on your life will fail
Stealth: Take yourself off the poll permanently

It is still Day 8. Made has been removed from the poll. Please vote elsewhere.

right. mind control. made did have a redirector power

okay, i missed that. so does this explain the redirecton on wilgy from michelle to dizzy? let me think

about made's redirection - yes i just went over that. i dont believe that he knew about it though. but he did say the word "find busdriver at my place" or something. was tht part of his engi role? let me double check

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:34 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:31 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:22 am what power did alison give to made again? why is made saying that alison gave him the power to curse someone to talk funny?

made was cursed to talk funny. roleplaying Otis from the barn yard (i googled it, its a cow)

he tried to target Kyle but his action got reflected back to him

Wilgy also trie to target Michelle but action ended up being reflected to Dizzy

so mafia still does have a redirector? what were the theories with the redirector earlier
Made received a busdriver I believve
that was ted
No, I'm pretty sure he received one. I specifically remember having an interaction that he received some sort of redirection

it was ted who received the busdriver

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:25 pm offered bus driver to ted

@tutuu your mech post is slightly wrong, I choose when I offer the bargain if I redirect votes or night actions, it isn't both by default, other than that you're correct

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked

we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3

why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
Wiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.

LC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martin

martin died on that night, so martin was the victim of the factional kill

im not sure if anyone received a ted song on that night. but i think that we can assume that ted busdrove himself with you?

remember that martin claimed that he received feedback from the hosts on night 3 when he targeted nutella telling him that the negative part of his role (the roleblocking) didnt work, only that part. he was expplicitly told about it

no one else have claimed i believe to interact / protectnutella on that night. tony didnt. dizzy is the only claimant

so i believe we have confirmation that some dizzy targeted nutella on n3 and protected nutella from getting roleblocked, i believe this is confirmed

its not a 100% town peek on dizzy i guess u can argue that but i believe its confirmed that dizzy protected nutella from getting roleblocked by martin n3 (even if there are mafia shenanigans i dont see a way in which this isnt confirmed)

@Hyena can you claim everything about your role please?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:31 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:22 am what power did alison give to made again? why is made saying that alison gave him the power to curse someone to talk funny?

made was cursed to talk funny. roleplaying Otis from the barn yard (i googled it, its a cow)

he tried to target Kyle but his action got reflected back to him

Wilgy also trie to target Michelle but action ended up being reflected to Dizzy

so mafia still does have a redirector? what were the theories with the redirector earlier
Made received a busdriver I believve

that was ted

if i go with the line of thought that mafia has a redirector i wont insist so much that people lock me as town due to kyle's peek then, i still think that u should because he shot tim on the same night he peeked me, so if he was redirected away from me wouldnt that also mess with his target nanook? but yea

@Justplayingitcool we could be right on our read on the reasons behind the modkill, but its possible radish never roleblocked tim because i think its confirmed that mafia has a redirector

i really need to update the mech post

so there is in fact no mafia curse giver. i control + f'd "curse" in made's iso and he seems to use that word liberally to call multiple stuff curses. he called kyle's role thieving ability a curse, he called jackofharts' ability a curse. it was just alison's power

alison did offer made a deal but she didnt say what it was. was it a double voter?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:35 am - I offer a permanent ability to someone at night. abilities are: track, roleblock, silence (can't speak during next day), disenfranchise (can't vote during next day), give a post restriction, thieving (steal the abilities of who you voted for), protecting, bus driving

its the post restriction lmao

i thought post restriction would mean like - a post cap. u cant make more than X posts

but looks like it makes u talk funny

so alison gave made the post restriction power, made attempted to post restrict kyle, what ended up happening is made targetting himself with that post restriction and he made himself talk funny, then he broke it on purpose to die

what power did alison give to made again? why is made saying that alison gave him the power to curse someone to talk funny?

made was cursed to talk funny. roleplaying Otis from the barn yard (i googled it, its a cow)

he tried to target Kyle but his action got reflected back to him

Wilgy also trie to target Michelle but action ended up being reflected to Dizzy

so mafia still does have a redirector? what were the theories with the redirector earlier

Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:43 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:37 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:33 pm Any last second questions? cuz I do need to get. Scummy or w/e yeah, I’ll be back in like 5 hours. If you need me I’ll be cleaning my room like I’m fucking Cinderella
1. Where you surprised to find you had targeted yourself?
2. How do you know you targeted yourself?
3. Why did you tell Kyle last day that he would find a bus drive, if you didn’t have one at the time?
Yes.
2. I cursed Kyle to talk to animals and now I am Otis from back and the barn yard
3. I thought he could purchase the bus driver role himself.
1. Why? It was obvious it would happen.
2. What the fuck are you talking about.
3. Why was this relevant to tell him? Why did you think that? Why did you not tell him that he would receive double voting instead for example?
1. Not from my POV, this was my first time using alisons power
2. I cursed Kyle to talk funny, and now I’m talking funny
3. Figured it wouldn’t matter cuz he’d get everything, but since Tim shot me, that didn’t happen. Unless Kyle also got my kill protector.

for example - there could have been a host error and tsp was cursed by the same curse made was cursed, and he couldnt talk about it, and he was supposed to lose his protection on jack but the hosts made an error and didnt roleblock tony, or something like that

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:02 am @tutuu

How do you explain the night when radishes blocked tim? I think we established that TSP saved Jack but then TSP was retrospectively modkilled, meaning the kill on Jack would have gone through.

thats true yea

but this rides on the assumption that we understand all the details and the reasons behind the modkill (because tsp didnt quote enough)

we could be wrong on our assumption / this could not be the full picture

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:59 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:09 am i probably need to constantly keep reminding myself that you speak 5 languages and you arent that advanced in english yet compared to the other languages u can speak which could be a plausible explanation for us perceiving each other's intentions as something very different than how we perceive our own intentions
My English is at written and reading decent level and i can't really speak, i understand like 20% of what i am listening, so i can make unintentionally understanding mistakes, and this is because i don't have a base of grammar and use of language like i have in the languages i learned more than 10 years each in school.
Playing mafia improved my level immensely but it's not like half of skills are enough to master a language and I often go to dictionary to check if i understand well or not
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:11 am there is no logic in me being scum because i colored ted's name in pink and he later claimed 3p - as u can see from that jpic quote from a past game of mine (radiohead) i painted null reads as pink. also, as i've explained, i painted ted's name in pink because he was a 0 poster ergo null. alison was a neutral 3p ergo null
I always post any thought that is passing through my head to check it with everyone, the fact I listened more what everyone else said about you than my paranoia is obvious because you can say i tunnel you hard but in fact i searched for evidence of who can be scum based on interactions in the flipped scum posts. Of course i interpreted wrong and Made's flip is the proof reading in scum posts may be pure wifom.
The problem is i still found evidence who increased my suspicion and again I had to post them, to check if what i see is correct or not. I received negative feedback and idk how to explain but i don't want to disregard them and be the only one to keep a scum read for you. But I miss some answers and i can't connect few dots to admit i am wrong without these.
The explanation of me posting all my thoughts and what i find is that I see mafia as a game of teamwork, and the role I dislike the most is serial killer because he is alone.
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:12 am i asked people if i should claim because i was unsure if it was a good or a bad decision for me to make. i didnt want to be impulsive and make a bad decision

you might think its scummy but im not scum - there is ... nothing much else i can add about that?
My question about how many votes modifiers can be in town vs scum part still stands even if you are villager, is a thing that needs scrutiny fmpov

ted's role nullified votes, he nullified your vote on n1, he was mafia

112's role forced people to vote for whoever she commanded them to, she was 3p

so there you go, not all roles that interact with voting are town

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:55 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm I like that big nutella post.
I thought it was horribly flawed...almost flawed enough to think it had to be intentional...and was considering breaking my intent to ignore the thread for a good chunk of time.

Now I am pissed, because you have forced my hand.

WTF do you find to like in that post?
how is this post real? it's theatrical, is it not? this isn't how tim talks, ever, no?

@hollowkatt

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:44 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:41 pm Completely random tangent:

What is everyone's opinions on Tim?
I have felt vaguely good about him since early on, but I do not understand his view of me in this game. It might just be paranoia on his part and a desire not to let me in particular ruin the game. But there have been a number of times where he's objected to posts of mine in ways I just do not understand.

i'm too narcissistic to have an opinion of him in regards to anything other than myself.
Nothing personal...I honestly trust no one.

look at this one

since when does sloonei call himself narcissistic. is he not usually a robot who talks very seriously and dry-ly?

i read this whole quote chain, imagining sloonei and tim saying these posts with their real voices and it just sounds funny. like a bad comedy movie

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm I like that big nutella post.
I thought it was horribly flawed...almost flawed enough to think it had to be intentional...and was considering breaking my intent to ignore the thread for a good chunk of time.

Now I am pissed, because you have forced my hand.

WTF do you find to like in that post?

how is this post real? it's theatrical, is it not? this isn't how tim talks, ever, no?

@hollowkatt how much experience do u have with tim? i highly believe he has pocketed u

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm I like that big nutella post.
I thought it was horribly flawed...almost flawed enough to think it had to be intentional...and was considering breaking my intent to ignore the thread for a good chunk of time.

Now I am pissed, because you have forced my hand.

WTF do you find to like in that post?

since when does tim get pissed like that at people and writes WTF in caps?

does this not sound theatrical and fake?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:11 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:54 pm Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?
I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.
Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?
They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.
Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:29 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:11 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:54 pm Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?
I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.
Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?
They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.
Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.
What?
The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

This could very well be w/w

Remember that scum knew from the start that the game isn't multiball

so a mafia partner harping on another partner for somtehing that only they know isn't a factor in this game could be a straightforward way to play - try to distance and try to feign lack of tmi in one post

my poe is

timsup2nothing
hollowkatt
long con

for tim - he had no reason to claim he was a vig on day 3. "IM A VIG AND IM SHOOTING MADE" - in a 27 player game with funky roles that could cause all sort of mechanical mischief - its irrational for tim to be town and to claim. if he is mafia there is a line where it makes sense - its a towny claim, and he was under pressure

tim has also went over how good he is as the scum alignemnt and i believe him - players who say this tend to not lie

tim has not pushed a single scum this game afaik, let me know if im wrong

he grumbled about us killing 112 (scum), ted (scum), has pushed and tried to shoot me, radish and made (all town)

now that i said this i do remember tim fighting sloonei at d1 or d2 where tim accused sloonei of tmi-ing the multiball factional kill. let me try to find it up. it could be w/w because wolves would know for a fact that it's not multiball, so 1 wolf (sloonei) theoryzing how do the multiball wolves factional kill rotate, and another wolf (tim) hammerin at him for "tmi"-ing could be a straightforward distancing attempt

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hollowkatt - i believe him generally about his role - that it's a passive self-protective role. therefore i dont want to townclear him because long con tracked him to nowhere - long con's track could have been disrupted.

regardless of his alignemnt he is scumsiding hard from my perception - i dont remember him burying wolves, i do remember him trying to kill me and is now trying to kill syn.

i dont think its that likely that he's a wolf who has pocketed tim. i think that its more likely that he's a misguided villager that was pocketed by tim

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long con - for the millionth tim and hopefully this is common knowledge now - there is a line where marmot loses tetris on purpose to long con, long con becomes a n2 roleblocker, roleblocks kyle, kyle receives a false positive

i cant point to much that i think long con has done or said that is that scummy - but in the case where we're somewhere wrong in all of this - i would urge people to look into LC. he hasn't been putting himself in people's faces that much compared to others

my read on jpic is similar to syn - i have little experience with jpic, in the only one game i've played with him he gave up relatively quickly as mafia - i am unsure that a player who gives up like he did in radiohead and openwolves is also capable of powerwolfing and making all the towny posts and pushes and stuff he has been doing this game - jpic has been putting himself in people's faces, has tried to townlead, has done all the reasonable and expected stuff an eager town player has done. its unlikely that he's mafia because it would be inconsistent with the last time i've seen him play as mafia

my distrustfall for hyena would be him having the bravado that he's turning the game around and voting for towncore. it's somethign i can see myself doing as wolf to amuse myself. but im not sure if he's that kind of person; i already mntioned i townread some of his other bravado

my distrustfall on kyle would be if he .. is a 3p. or if nanook was town. but there is no reason to doubt the mech that kyle is town

i've been mafia with syn, he was kind of limp and got yeeted d1, i dont believe that if he is mafia this game he would:

-put himself out there so much
-get in people's faces, try to townlead
-do the thing with radish and then retract it
-be able to constantly towntell and do stuff. with all due respect he only recently got into playing mafia, yea? i dont believe he is at that point where he can rand scum and make the posts he has made this game

he is very pure town and he is getting voted by misguided villagers and a wolf

i think michelle is most likely town, i dont want to get into it

wilgy rolecopped michelle but he ended up getting dizzy's role so i think it still stands

@Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked

we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3

why are u still voting him, what are you doing?

@Dyslexicon who are we voting for chief?

i asked people if i should claim because i was unsure if it was a good or a bad decision for me to make. i didnt want to be impulsive and make a bad decision

you might think its scummy but im not scum - there is ... nothing much else i can add about that?

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