The Syndicate

that was so fucking obnoxious. i wasnt even gonna say anything post-game i dont care about the outcome. but what is this disgusting shit.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:24 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:59 am i was realistically both a role cop and an alignment cop combined :P

No you weren't that is my point lol

what is your point?

you're speaking nonsense

the public info that we all knew was the first part of marmot's role. the one that i shared itt

i correctly identified that sprityo wouldn't put such a lame survivor role as a 3p considering the puppet master and gambit demon, and that no possible interesting enough of a win con could justify the bland role

you were screaming at me in all caps "STOP WITH THIS "ROLE BEING LAME" SHIT, READ THE GAME NOT THE HOST FFS", to support your argument that you think thundercat is 3p

game ends, post game rolls up, we see that thundercat is mafia and not 3p, and you ping me and say "haha suck it tutuu i was right and you were wrong :P"

why are you trolling?

i was realistically both a role cop and an alignment cop combined :P

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:46 am It's worth noting that mafia while having access to the strong kill never actually made a kill through protection

technically it's not a strongman kill then, the way most people refer to strongman kill is a kill that is unstoppable. from what i read your implementation was a 2 KP kill. i think it would be correct to call it that (2 Kill Power kill) and not a strongman kill

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:06 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:05 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:02 am Did @tutuu actually know more about my role and win condition? I was terrified she was going to reveal more, but she never did.

It says in the endgame reveal that the strongman part wasn't revealed to her

@tutuu it was specifically set up to not give away alignment suck on that #iwasright

@nutella please explain this post, was this aimed at the village who misyeeted you or was this aimed at me?

Like if my role said "see all secrets unless some of those secrets are specifically designed to not be seen by you" - then thats fine, then im not being lied to about what my role does

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:06 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:05 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:02 am Did @tutuu actually know more about my role and win condition? I was terrified she was going to reveal more, but she never did.

It says in the endgame reveal that the strongman part wasn't revealed to her

@tutuu it was specifically set up to not give away alignment suck on that #iwasright

Suck on what? As i said the role doesnt make sense to be 3p considering how sprityo made the other two 3ps

Game was pretty scumsided, it was 16 vs 9 but with two mafia having two lives it was de facto 16 vs 11

Also this is the second time i rand cop and there is specifically another role in the game that is designed to fool me and no one else (last time in philosophers mafia, a godfather existed only for me)

I dont rly like being lied to lol, my mafia philosophy is very different. My role says that i can see all secrets but i didnt see all secrets about marmot's role. Its fine to not tell me all secrets but i would have worded/designed it differently so u dont have to lie to ur players about what their role does

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:03 pm I’d like to help you son but you’re too young to vote

LMAO

my read is that TH is town and mafia have the same power just like the town mayor to stop a yeet. and they decided to use it yesterday

and you're supposed to combo it with Thundercat the Mastermind-Obliterator

In case he dies, the whole town rejoices and mass claims, then thundercat comes back, the mafia mayor stops the yeet and thundercat gets to obliterate

112 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:17 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:15 am anyone who has the luxury of owning a bathtub but doesn't occasionally just luxuriate in lavender and eat vine fruits for hours is a cop and should not be trusted

acab

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:04 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:03 am should have stayed on thundercat

i cant imagine an interesting enough wincon to justify the role

READ THE GAME NOT THE HOST FFS CHILL WITH THE "ROLE ISNT INTERESTING ENOUGH" STUFF

i read the game and i thought sig was towny

@Joe Who? are you 3p? is your posting restriction to post in emojis?

should have stayed on thundercat

i cant imagine an interesting enough wincon to justify the role

@Turnip Head might as well full claim everything (if you're town)

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:59 pm Or literally 1 second ago

then its fine, i have no complaints

from a game design standpoint i would dislike it if the leeroy ability has been activated but it's not announced itt as it is activated, but instead we learn about it at the end of the day

"-Leeroy: Kill yourself to determine the day’s lynch target. Sets remaining Day time to 24 hours."

that's not what the tooltip says

oh

maybe sig is mafia and he claimed this to fish out some claims from the town?

@sig please leeroy joe who

so why did u claim at all?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:42 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:42 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:41 pmRight or you

you arent saying "or u" at nova right?

Nah I was lol

u know i copped him n2 and i found no secrets therefore he's peeked town unless my peek was messed with?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:41 pmRight or you

you arent saying "or u" at nova right?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:38 pm so TH and TC have both claimed secret role?

tc is claiming the secret 3p role

112's tracker claim was scummy imo

it was unnecessary, she wasn't under threat by sig, she also didn't out her results

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:33 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:32 pm

Thundercat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:24 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:19 pm Besides Joe I want another option

Leeroy TH. They're not Mayor and Town already has 2 roles affecting the elim. Having a secret role that can also tank is very very unlikely. Also the alleged Nanook track/watch, bus-driver is potentially possible but very ehh

TH isn't the mayor?

The elimination wasn't stopped, so no they can't be

he wasn't eliminated though?

But it went through is what I mean. Mayor stops the elim and turn it into a no lynch which is clear. An immunity to the yeet has it go through with them as the target, and they survive.

i agree, but the host is funky in a lot of ways. expect the unexpected, imo

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:33 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:32 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:31 pm nanook can be a watcher, he claimed that he believes scum having ninja or something

anyway i dont rly trust nanook

Not alongside TH's denial of having not visited someone.

TH soft claimed that they're a visiting town role and they're claiming mayor so that people leave them alone

actually im not sure if they claimed they're a visiting town pr but i believe they soft claimed that they're a town role different than mayor

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:32 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:31 pm nanook can be a watcher, he claimed that he believes scum having ninja or something

anyway i dont rly trust nanook

Not alongside TH's denial of having not visited someone.

TH soft claimed that they're a visiting town role and they're claiming mayor so that people leave them alone

nanook can be a watcher, he claimed that he believes scum having ninja or something

anyway i dont rly trust nanook

i support using your leeroy on joe who, its a slot we want dead

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:23 pm Should I kill kza so they can check someone that seems optimal

please no we are low on numbers

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:21 pm was there something about nova? i'm trying to untangle the spaghetti real quick who was the person who claimed indie survivor

i copped nova n2 and i found no secrets

@nutella

i should have pressured / reaction tested thundercat before outing his role

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:37 pm Btw can anyone else confirm that LC is the GD? I assume yes?

alison confirmed yeah

sig wagon overall cleaner. i dont like joe who and thundercat on it, but everyone else is lock town from my pov

as for the thundercat wagon - TH is a sketchball, longcon is townsiding but he is kind of not rly town, nanook isnt exactly clear, sig is (imo towny) but alot of ppl think scummy, 112 is a sketchball

original votecount:

sig
5
28%
Voters: Kylemii, Joe Who?, Alison, Thundercat, nutella
Thundercat
5
28%
Voters: Turnip Head, Grand Scheme, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, sig
Towny McTownface

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new votecount:

sig
5
45%
Voters: nutella, tutuu, Thundercat, novaselinenever, Kylemii
Thundercat
4
36%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, sig, 112, Grand Scheme

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these combine into

sig - kylemii, joe who, alison, thundercat, nutella, tutuu, nova - 7 votes
thundercat - turnip head, long con, nanook, sig, 112 - 5 votes

i have a townread on sig but im sheeping nutella

i have scumreads on 112 and joe who

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:26 pm OMG IT WORKED THE MAGIC POUT EMOJI TRICK YAYAYAYAY

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nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:24 pm tutuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu if you trust me vote sig

sigh

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

what happened to my vote it disappeared

oh the host changed the poll thats why. alright

i will keep my vote on thundercat the mastermind-obliterator

2 stuff could have interfered with my nova cop peek on n2:

1) polypies
2) sabie12, who could have doppelgangered either polypie or martin the busdriver

nothing could have interfered with my kylemii cop peek on n3 (unless completely unknown variable), so kylemii is the most clear

Replace th with thundercat

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:06 am Basically, even if TC is mafia, the diff between exeing TC and exeing TC's teammate is that exeing TC's teammate makes it a lot harder to lose to a masskill.

Its the same tbh since he vanishes for a day and night

If we assume hes mafia and only 1 maf buddy remaining

Yeet th > go to night > start next day, wake up to a mass kill, but th has vanished (i assume wont count for parity). So 1 maf remaining. Yeet that, th returns, yeet

Otherwise

Yeet maf buddy > go to night > start next day, wake up to a night kill> only 1 maf remaining (th). And proceed as usual

A downside is if we leave th to be the very very last scum we yeet. If we do that, after we take his first life, we wont yeet scum (cuz there are none) while we wait on the day he has vanished. Altho i guess thats ok, he will disappear anyway and probably wont be able to kill at night so maybe we dont lose anything in this scenario

So probbaly the result is the same as long as we yeet mafia

Unless th doesnt completely leave the game when he vanishes, only then it matters

Like its a 3 day investment to yeet thundercat

First yeet, vanish on the 2nd day, yeet on 3rd day

Even if we kill all the other mafia we will need to do this 3 day investment to kill him

Why not get rid of his first life now

Yeet another mafia tomorrow

Finish him the day after tomorrow

Think about the l o n g. .t e r m. g u y s

Man i dont believe thundercat is survivor thats just lame and the host doesnt seem to like lame roles

There are 5 non towns but LC is townsiding and mafia traitor doesnt count for parity

So rly there are de facto 3 anti-town members for the purposes of parity

I think thundercat is the obliterator and we need him dead at some point anyway, we will need to double yeet him at some point, so might as well now. Dunno

The vig huh

Well alright

Wait wtf town ninja who was a town ninja

Oh so u saw TH visiting someone but if thunal was busdriven and u watched her, u think that TH might be a visiting town pr that visites someone completely unrelated

But no, even if thunal was busdriven, u saw TH visiting someone (as a watcher)