The Syndicate

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:50 pm Can we nominate Socky quotes from sign-up threads?

Nutella's makes me giggle.

we are doing it live

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:33 am role madness gothic.

you awaken from a deep slumber and discover that you have a notification on mafia the syndicate dot com. you open your inbox only to find a shimmering greenish blur hovering over where the pm should be, preventing you from clicking on it.
you rub your eyes and shake your phone, unsure if you are still dreaming. finally you are able to open the message. in nearly indecipherable text it reads:

CONGRATULATIONS. YOU ARE SURREALIGNMENT. YOU WIN THE GAME WHEN A̴̛̙̜̞͎̫̤͋̀̏̔͌̄̅́̅̈́̐͛̚L̵̜̝̪͙̬̰̎́́̽̈́L̷̢̡̺̩͙̞̣̜͐́̌͋͒͒̀̇͗̉̈́͘ ̴̡̨̻̻̲͎͎̌͗̇̈́͝͝͝T̸̥̹͓̞͕͍̞̪̳̹̀̂͠H̵̞̥͇̜͔́̽̔͒̈́͂̂̀͘͠Ŗ̴͉̣̹͈̱̀̀̈̕Ḗ̴̲̟̘̼̟͚͈̏̈͒̈̀͐̕Â̶̧̹͚̮̮̘͊̎̈̍͘͜͠͝T̶̡̢̢̛̬̤̤̤̫̞͇̖̫͗͌̐̄̊̆͘ͅS̴̮͚̦̎ͅ ̵̢̨͔̬̙̹̱͚̱̪̰̝͓̜͛̏̆͒̂̐̊̌̄̄̒̃̐͗̈T̸͔̗̠̥͔̦͚̻͔̒̑͐̐́̈͂̀͝Ȍ̵̖̌ ̷̡̺̲͖̦̝̻̅̔̕̕͝T̵̺̭̆͂͆̔̾̄̉͂͋̈͝͝͠͝ͅH̸̢̲̲̦͓͐̎̀̅͒̽̂̏͝E̵̘̟̞͎͙̣̟͎̰͆̎̀̔̀̽̕͘ͅ ̶̨̧̙̱͎̰͎̻̦͎̞̀͑Ȑ̴̡̺̰̱͉͎͊͋̉̾̆̌̎̚C̵̛͔̜̜͍̦̞̖̺̗̯̙̞͈͇̿̈́̈̈́̀͆͛̇̐H̸̺͖̰̠̠̯̝̭̮̹̰̃̃̔̎̃͌̉̿̕J̶̟̣̞͓̠̮̪̗̪̦̪̯̣̀̀͗̈̌̇̒͆͑͗̑͘̚͠F̸̧̨̲̥̩͕̞͎͙͚͓̩̂̏̑͌̏̌̀͂̒͆̂̈́̎ͅ ̴̨͓̠͚͙̝͓̳̬̙̻̬͔̗̑̈̐̈́̊͊Ȍ̶̰̲̦̖Ŗ̷̢̧̢̬̜̝̜͇̼̟͇̠͒̈͆̈́̂̏̄͛̈́͐J̵̢̰̤̣̠͍̫̦̦͕͈̼̘̳̤͛̒̊̅̇̔͋͘̚͝Ę̸̧̟͎̣̥͚̈́̿ ̵͚̪͈̖̲̙̥͔͈̬̥͗̅̆͛̓͒ͅX̷̧͖̱͔͎͂̓Ģ̸̱̺̘͍̫̺͔̩̻͆̔̃̉͛̂͐͑̃́͝ ̸̨̡̣͚͍̮̩̘̹͔̲̘̄̍̅̾̿̈́̈̑͒̌͘Ȓ̶̟̣̥̲͎̯̠̰͌́̄̕͘͜J̵̢̢̩̹͖͚̼͈̝̞̄͌̂̒̔̒̄͌̓̍̒̚͝͝ͅA̷̛̤͉͇͈̠̝͓̳͐̾͌̄̀̊̽̏̀͌V̷͈͇̜̰͓̺̙̺̥̥͊͝ ̴̲̪̙͍̱̊͋̈́́̈B̷̧̛̟̲͉̩̮̙͇̖̩͚̖̉̅͛̀͐̃̑̄͋̒͗̽̃͜͝X̶̦̺͇̫͆̑̄͌̓͐͗̃̄̐̾̆͊̕͝Ḱ̴̛̳͈̘͒͌̅K̷̡̢̖͚̟͖̠̫̩̼̝̫̰̒̽͗̒ͅ ̶̧̱̠͓̜̗̗̤̟̩͙̓̈́̄̔͗͋̀̅͂̇̈́̈͒͘̕H̴̠̺̉̌̇̉͊́̏̿͛̏͋̕ͅA̴̢̢̹̤̹͇̱͓̪͚̫̓̎̋͂̋̄̊̈́̚̕͠ͅͅV̵̢͕̻̦͈̻͙̫͓̀̀̋̉̀͝ͅͅĘ̸̛̩̠̜̤͓͉̻̿͐̀̾͛͜ ̸̡͕͚̞̜̤͎̠̣͔̻̣͇̮͔̉B̴̢̢̤̜̜̱̭͓͚̀̽͊̔̎͂̏̀͆͠͝E̴͚͉̻̻̦̳̦͒̆͛͊̅̂̆̚ͅȄ̸̤̲̦̙͐́̏̿͘N̷̫̮̫͉̣̳̈̑̄̑̑̽̒͑̓͐̾ ̴̡̳̣͓̭̦̗̻̻͇͠E̶̢̢̫͕̦̭̤̞̬͔̘͑̿́͐̒͗̓̽̀̒̉͋̉̂̾͜ͅL̶͖̼̲̻̫̩͍̭̈́̀̓̐͊̊́̒̀͘̕ͅÏ̸̛̛͕͙̘̖̩̽̄͐̀̈́͊͋̚M̴̦̟̝͉̱̭̼͚̙̰͑̈́͒̅̆͗͗͐͊̿̋͘͜Ȋ̵̧̧̺͔̟̬̦̠͍͖̯̱̺̏̾͊̈́̀̂̿̀͒̂̂N̶̲̽̆͝ͅĂ̸̡̱͕̟̞͉̫͙̦̖̗͖̭̯̒́̇̈̔͋̑̅̉̾̈͜͠͠T̴͉̤̩̝̪̦̰̪̣͐̉̎Ė̸̪̩̭̤̣͖̪͑̊̏̐̎͋͊̀͠͠Ḍ̶̥͆́̓͂̿́̍̎̚.̵̨͚̞͖͉͇̘̟̤͍̭̅̓

you tremble at the great terror and responsibility that lies before you. you cannot fully comprehend the magnitude of this monumental challenge, but somewhere deep within your gut you know that it is a darker and more dangerous trial than anything even the lauded Thundrous Marmot of the Marsh ever faced. you contemplate this in a heady state of delirium as you brush your teeth, and the adrenaline surges in. you can do this. you will transcend the limitations of ordinary alignments. you will overcome the petty scumreads of mere mortals. you will face your foes until the final phase like none other has done before. you are infinite.

OH MY GOD

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:11 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:46 am Yea saying that the ppl who gave their feedback to the setup are only accustomed to bread and water games is a mischaracterization. I dont believe you parsed DkKoba's posts properly
maybe I did? it seemed to me like they were complaining about the game being complex and having a lot of variables, and then stated that they would rather sign up for a game that wasn't either of those things, but they couldn't because there weren't any.

I dont believe so! In their opinion the game is too easily broken / abused by town

I personally disagree even though it is guaranteed that a mafia member will be yeeted almost every single day (just like it happened in sprityo's game). i find the unlimited soup kill that can kill unlimited number of people strong enough to compensate

we are mafia players who read a lot of posts, thats what mafia is, i think the accusation of clogging up the sign up thread is silly

conversations are good, if i was running a complex open setup i'd love to hear feedback, and i think for long con its the same

@DkKoba please dont perceive the posts that were thrown at you as an accurate representation of what the syndicate is :P

Yea saying that the ppl who gave their feedback to the setup are only accustomed to bread and water games is a mischaracterization. I dont believe you parsed DkKoba's posts properly

high five :P

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:02 pm From other players it's no better or worse than posting in just emojis.

disagree. if you were truthful that u haven't read ur role pm and u claimed this on day 0, then what u said here is the true. ur basically not rly a player yet. so u could associate that with posting in emoji

but if you deceive the other players and not reveal that you haven't read your role pm, they would make the natural assumption that you indeed have read it. if they are good players, they will correctly identify that you don't have TMI / aren't informed, therefore you are town. so if you happen to be mafia, you would be punishing other players for playing good, hence, u know

i never claimed my thoughts are official not sure where'd that come from. they are unofficial but truthful at the same time! hosts can still override whatever they want i dont see the issue in that suggestion. but back to the original topic, ur maybe right that calling it cheating is hyperbolic since it doesnt necessarily give u an advantage if we think result-oriented. on principle it gives you the advantage that you get to overcome the biggest hurdle - knowing who is town so u dont need to fake solving. u can do real solving. its not just about knowing ur teammates, if u play normally u know the town too, everything u do has got to be faked and manufactured, thats the point of playing as scum. instead of "cheating" ill settle for "obnoxious" or "insufferable" or "unsportsmanlike". some sites ban you for doing it and i think it makes sense why they do so

mafia should have standardized rules. i have proposed we make a rule set for the syndicate and that was kind of rejected.

its cheating because the game "mafia" is supposed to be uninformed majority vs informed minority. anything else devolves from the game, its no longer mafia. if you happen to rand the minority (mafia) but you selfishly remove your TMI by not reading your role PM, it's like you're town, it's not fair towards the other players. like even if the overall winrate stays the same, on principle, its not fair towards the other players, its dirty

i promised you but i don't know if i will have the time :P

moving to sub

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:18 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:30 am - person gets voted
- person is asked to claim
- if person claims and nobody cc’s they become comfirmed town
- rinse and repeat until you wagon someone who gets cc’d
Doesn't this process just rack up the town claims for an easy soup kill? How many town end up claiming during each lynch before one single baddie gets caught in a claim battle? 5? 6?

Not to mention, this sounds like a super-shitty way to play, and I really don't see everyone agreeing to play that way. Every single game I have ever run has been open-setup, and they have never involved a soup kill, and I don't think they have ever devolved into anything resembling that.

it would depend on how good town is. i see roughly 3 town for 1 mafia, so chances are 3 town claims for 1 mafia yeeted if town just yeets randomly

i dont think its a shitty way to play, claiming your role when you're put on the chopping block and then if no cc town moving on to someone else. its the optimal way to play and unless someone is being obtuse and selfish and "i WaNnA hAvE fUn In My OwN wAy" they wouldn't lower their team's chances to win and they would follow the optimal plan to win the game.

all that said since your soup kill is potentially unlimited i see no problems with it. they can also just guess they dont need claims

it is better to have a soup kill in the way you implemented it than to have the subjective "pls dont claim" rule which is bound to have ppl debating whether or not someone broke that one

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:32 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:58 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:58 pm i plan on protecting myself from soup kill by not opening my role pm until LYLO
Have you ever not opened your role pm, or is that just a thing you say?
it's a legitimate strategy i've considered several times but i've never had the self control to pull it off

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:33 am it's also a Bad Strategy

its also cheating and you shouldnt do it. its not a "legitimate" strategy

in cuz i promised u <3

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