agreed!!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:35 amI'm not sure I'd say anything is common 'round these parts. We do everything with equal rarity.tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:23 amdo you think that hidden godfathers and hidden unaware millers are a common occurance on the syndicate? i wouldn't say that they are common based off of my experience from the last half of 2020JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:18 pm The definition of "bastard" seems to vary wildly around the Internet.
The definition I am most accustomed to would be: a game or role is bastardized if the host overtly lies to you or obscures information that you cannot reasonably uncover.
- The second bit there would mean that millers, godfathers, et al wouldn't be "bastard" in a community where they occur frequently -- players can reasonably anticipate them.
Some folks use the term much more broadly to refer to any kind of game mechanic that is non-standard. I don't care for that depiction, but no matter.![]()
A number of us came from rateyourmusic originally, and games there had godfathers more often than they didn't have godfathers. In that environment, it was something town always kept a lookout for. There, failing to account for a godfather would have just been a foolish thing to do, and newcomers adapted quickly when old timers made it clear cop checks should not be viewed as absolute. On The Syndicate, it's difficult to pinpoint a consistent program or game culture since folks come from all over the place and our games have become a thick mixture of everything -- for that reason I would be less inclined to feature a godfather in a closed setup unless town was given some explicit means of guessing that one exists.
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- Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 am
- Forum: Mafia Game Submission Archive
- Topic: Bird Mafia
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Re: Bird Mafia
- Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:50 am
- Forum: Mafia Game Submission Archive
- Topic: Bird Mafia
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Re: Bird Mafia
sorry; im not trying to come off as if you're advocating for gfs and millers and im opposing u, u were just saying something thats holistically truthful, i just cant miss an opportunity to share my disdain for potentially catastrophic game design, i just want the game of mafia to be played as best as it can be, is all!
- Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:30 am
- Forum: Mafia Game Submission Archive
- Topic: Bird Mafia
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Re: Bird Mafia
and even if they were it would suck a lot for a newcomer player who isnt familiar with a site culture that employs these kind of stuff
its not fair to expect other people to let them know of the site culture during an ongoing game of deception where that newcomer wouldnt even nkow if they might be getting manipulated
im pretty adamant that hidden godfathers and hidden unaware millers are bastard in pretty much every shape form; i agree with calling "godfathers and millers bastard" they way syn called them, i also called them like that in my game
its not fair to expect other people to let them know of the site culture during an ongoing game of deception where that newcomer wouldnt even nkow if they might be getting manipulated
im pretty adamant that hidden godfathers and hidden unaware millers are bastard in pretty much every shape form; i agree with calling "godfathers and millers bastard" they way syn called them, i also called them like that in my game

- Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:23 am
- Forum: Mafia Game Submission Archive
- Topic: Bird Mafia
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Re: Bird Mafia
do you think that hidden godfathers and hidden unaware millers are a common occurance on the syndicate? i wouldn't say that they are common based off of my experience from the last half of 2020JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:18 pm The definition of "bastard" seems to vary wildly around the Internet.
The definition I am most accustomed to would be: a game or role is bastardized if the host overtly lies to you or obscures information that you cannot reasonably uncover.
- The second bit there would mean that millers, godfathers, et al wouldn't be "bastard" in a community where they occur frequently -- players can reasonably anticipate them.
Some folks use the term much more broadly to refer to any kind of game mechanic that is non-standard. I don't care for that depiction, but no matter.