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Think it was pretty reasonable for spf to kill marl (he also was going to hard-defend arete), and then killing nutella over me last night probably hurts more than it helps by painting a target on her back. (I do regret that "has it occurred to you that you might be wrong" post btw, it probably came off a lot douchier than I intended in text without vocal cues / tone behind it. It was meant more as a real question that was poorly worded and came off as a rhetorical snark. Sometimes I do get wrapped up in playing devil's advocate and the plot gets lost somewhere.)Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:49 pm I think the last wolf is in syn/dizzy/spf
SPF turning on c4 is more or less what i'd expect when the noose of the PoE starts shrinking onto them as we near the endgame
Syn just has like
no reason to townread him at all
and dizzy i still feel felt agenda-ey to me the day vulgard died, even if they've explained their thought processes
Frankly, this line is just bizarre if spf is town. Though to be fair, it's probably bizarre either way. Maybe he was only trying to subtly imply I should townread c4.
i don't know, that's a long way away and I'd want to re-read stuff before making a definitive suggestionouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:49 pm Zack if I'm stuck in a f3 of SPF and dizzy who should I vote
(Maybe replace dizzy with Nutella)
sunbae wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:01 am 1.) The reasonable solve is the straightforward one. It's Vulgard + Dya/SPF + Chloe/C4/Arete. If Vulgard is a wolf, a bunch of people become clear to me. Arete due to the reaction all day today. Bronana due to the pressure from Vulgard at times and Bronana's confusion on Vulgard near eod2. Dyslexicon due to the word usage read on Vulgard out of nowhere. Marl due to the night chat fake claiming thing. Outed Wolf due to the Wrong post.
Of the remaining people, SPF and Dya are not teamed. Just read SPF's ISO and the constant movement back to Dya. Nutella and Dya are not teamed, just read Nutella's ISO and see how hard they go at Dya d1. However, SPF and Vulgard could be paired due to the way Vulgard kept getting others to town case SPF for him. I would go Dya first due to Vulgards defense of Dya into shifting to pushing them a bit once “outed”. If Dya is a wolf, I would clear SPF and Nutella. If Dya is town I would go SPF. If SPF were a wolf, I would clear Arete and C4 (people Vulgard got to town case SPF for him) and finish off the game with Chloe. If Chloe didn't end it, I'd shrug and vote Nutella and be unhappy but everyone else would be clear to me (note, Nutella is not paired with Chloe due to the way Chloe sponged the Nutella thing onto Amy). To make that more visually appealing instead of word vomit:
Vulgard → If wolf, Dya → If wolf, Chloe → If town, C4 → If town, Arete
Vulgard → If wolf, Dya → If town, SPF → If wolf, Chloe → If town, Nutella
Vulgard → If wolf, Dya → If town, SPF → If town, Chloe → If wolf, C4
oh my god, it even has a watermark
they did bring it up yesterday fwiwouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:19 pm I'm surprised arete brought up the post after death thing today and not yesterday
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:26 pmHoping this is a redcheck and not a save, but I'll take either.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:00 pm Night 2 has ended. Nobody has died.
Day 3 begins. You have 48 hours to place your votes.
I’ll post a quiz answer key here later when I can.
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:29 pmI'm going to sleep soon but I need to ask this.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:07 pm that makes two days in a row where I ended the day with dyachei as one of my strongest suspects, only to not feel confident to push the momentum in the direction of their chop
im done with that. i want dya gone today and if they're a villager then I take responsibility for it
Are you still shielding c4? I have some thoughts about dya myself but I need to ask this first.
as soon as d3 started vul probably realized there was a very good chance he was fucked, I'm skeptical of reading much into anything he said that day
there are a couple points in his posts that are very yikesArete wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:42 am I'm pretty sure Vul is already out of his wolfrange from his linguistic analysis of SPF but there are a couple points in his posts that are very yikes
right now I would call him like 98 percent town but I should have a more confident read later and this isn't at sheepable territory yet
(for the unfamiliar, Vul and I have highly accurate reads on each other, essentially 100 percent accurate discounting third parties)
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:54 am my maximum postcount for today is 420.......blaze it........
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:36 am my instincts are telling me that if im misreading anyone in that pool, it would be bronana
he doesn't seem to even believe that one himselfouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:01 am literally the only read hes pushed since dya is dizzy i think (c4)
I think the middle paragraph also applies to c4, he is doing a bunch of nothingbronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:50 amthis is the part of a game where a lot of wolves stall and have a hard time keeping up with the villagers that have no such issues. there is inevitably a bunch of villagers tinfoiling and arguing with each other all day, and it can be hard to break into that as a wolfnutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:43 amwell if one of them is a wolf they're basically rolling over, if you're the wolf you're fighting bc you have a chanceouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:42 am i think all of my posts this day phase are still better than c4/aretes
shrug
arete freezing up and giving reasons why all these villagers and villagers and struggling to find a real push is pmuch the classic, when you have TMI that good players are town you can more clearly see all the reasons they're town and sometimes that creates a mental block (especially when they're all people who will vigorously defend themselves)
i honestly can barely recall them pushing anyone all game except for the brief case on tangy d1 and syn yesterday. is this normal for them? am i misremembering something? these are genuine questions, not rhetorical.
this is the part of a game where a lot of wolves stall and have a hard time keeping up with the villagers that have no such issues. there is inevitably a bunch of villagers tinfoiling and arguing with each other all day, and it can be hard to break into that as a wolfnutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:43 amwell if one of them is a wolf they're basically rolling over, if you're the wolf you're fighting bc you have a chanceouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:42 am i think all of my posts this day phase are still better than c4/aretes
shrug
1. he really didn't push alison, and like one of those is a wolf and that is not a damnable ratio at all for d2 anywaystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:37 am if i had to pinpoint my concerns about visor, they would look like this:
1. played a large role in concentrating momentum against the widely incorrect POE pool of amy/alison/dyachei
2. felt overconfident and oversatisfied with their solve during the first couple of days, without a proportionate amount of logic to back it up. seems unconfident and unsure of themselves now in comparison
3. has seemed to struggle to solve the game in holistic terms today and has felt a little directionless with their solving (i know they mentioned they dont have the time/mental energy to fully solve, which is fine)
but i do agree that his early push on dyachei is villager indicative and a bit of a hard sell to be a bus
just because visor and i have been playing with each other for a decade and have vaguely similar styles and are both in the 18-65 age demographic doesn't mean we read each other with a stunning degree of accuracy or anything. if anything it used to be the opposite.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:27 am zack, is outed wolf just a villager? give me your guidance
listen here you little shitouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:20 am i uh, wouldnt trust my zack read 100%
i dont actually play a huge amount of games with him (mostly because we retire every 3 games for half a year :P )
i mean i think hes a villager this game but i wouldnt feel confident betting the game on any of my reads lol
didn't he wolfread you for a thick, solid, and tight portion of d1?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:12 amto my knowledge, c4 has been a wolf in exactly one game. (CoV). we've played 3-4 games together outside of that, and in all of those games, c4 was the first person to read me with a high level of accuracy, and he spent a large portion of those games stubbornly trying to make other people agree w/his read on me (similar to how he's approached this game)bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:08 amhow many games have you guys even played together? didn't c4 say he's wolfed twice or something?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:07 amit's not a joke. c4 has never misread me in a game before. if c4 is a villager then he's misreading me for the first time ever. if c4 is a wolf then he's TMI'ing me as town. in either reality, the odds of me being town are more likely than not. i don't understand why an argument like that makes you feel "wrong" - you're gonna have to be less abstract about itouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:52 amLike I get in the world where it's a joke but it's still a joke that has the intended effect to make you think along those linesouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:49 am That line SPF wrote about reading C4 as a villager so they should be a villager just felt super wrong
@bronana
Ordered list, I guess ?
fwiw i acknowledge the flaws of "godreads" considering that we saw one of them go wrong in this game already, but still lol
being cleared for my shitty playstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:07 amfwiw i completely agree - i would never clear someone solely for finding dyachei wolfy, because i have no doubt that dyachei wanted to be bussed/distanced from, and that the remaining wolf distanced from them quite a lot - this plays a large role into my feeling that zack is probably a villager. i'm more interested in seeing who had the most inorganic/convenient shift to wolfreading dyachei overallnutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:00 amyeah this. dya very much knew they were going down soon enough from pretty early in the game, so there probably was some bussing, and i hope you realize this is a big part of why i don't feel like i can clear you eitherouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:58 am part of the problem is i bet dya told their wolf team mid d1 to bus them (or at least floated the possibility of having to do so) because me and sunbae pushing dya d1 is exactly what happened in the org game (where they flipped wolf) and i imagine they knew a repeat was on the cards at that point
so its hard for me to divorce a legitimate soulread on dya from riding a bus to glorytown
Because he's the hero PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 6] deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A bronana knight.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:54 amtinfoil zack instead so i can fucking die if the game doesnt end todayouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:52 am " if she is a wolf then this is the strongest game i've ever seen her play"
(fwiw i read all of the post - but not sure i have a huge amount of questions for you)
this is something i have been thinking. i looked at some former nutella wolf light games and a lot of them are generally worse than this though there is once decentish one in there which has increased my paranoia levels. i fear we cleared nutella too early sometimes, though hally and alison both v read her so i guess i can blame them :P )
there is only one wolf so lol? i can't tell if this was a joke or notstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:40 am if he's a wolf then he's probably TMI'ing zack as town
whoa whoa whoa hey now, i said I didn't remember you being a main pusher! that's totally different than me asserting that you weren't! (i am sort of joking but also kind of serious :P)staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:20 amre the godread stuff: i mean yeah, sure, but that still doesn't explain why you find anything about that wolfyouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:16 amp much 0% i dont believe you actually think im a wolf and i think you just voted me to get some kind of reaction out of me (esp cause you said earlier this phase that you dont think im a wolf (slight paraphrase but you get it)staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:09 am how much of your vote on me is influenced by my vote on you, btw?
i had the reaction to your posts when i read them earlier i just didnt drop it then
"it's not a joke. c4 has never misread me in a game before. if c4 is a villager then he's misreading me for the first time ever. if c4 is a wolf then he's TMI'ing me as town. in either reality, the odds of me being town are more likely than not. i don't understand why an argument like that makes you feel "wrong" - you're gonna have to be less abstract about it"
forgive me if ive had enough of godreads for one game :P
"that's wacky. why is it wolfy for me to acknowledge that i was being widely misunderstood and that i perceived myself as a likely mischop? would you prefer that i lie about my position in the game?"
i think you overstated your position in the game a little, nutella has been the main one driving pushing you over recent times - i pushed you a bit when i was cartwheeling towards the bin, syn is dead, arete, does arete count?
maybe i am not remembering others correctly and perhaps you landed in some sort of null zone and you thought well its gonna be soon - and thats fair
i don't think any of the things i said are slam dunk cases but i did want to put them out there because people can respond to them and create some sort of dialogue
i was kinda hoping you didnt respond to my posts first lol. i wanted to see others chime in a bit first (i guess i shouldve just not replied to this but too late now, im not retyping these words)
these are like little tennis balls lobbed up into the thread waiting for someone to hit them
i really didn't overstate my position in the game tbh - my memory is that i came into today with nutella and bronana having both agreed that i was not a main pusher of dyachei (even though i was!) and with nutella and arete actively suspicious of me, with you/bronana both making vaguely paranoid comments about me as well. i perceived my odds of being the chop coming into today fairly high, and it's not unreasonable from my position why i would feel that way even if things ended up turning out a bit differently than i thought
also that's fair, i assumed that your vote wasn't 100% serious but i was a little thrown off by the reasoning that you gave right now because it seemed so abstract and so non-specific at a point in the game when you have more than enough evidence to base your reads on solid, concrete stuff
i mean i pushed chloe/syn since d2 or whatever all game and then everyone agreed it was syn yesterday and he was green? lolnutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:09 amidk sometimes it makes me feel better though, like if several villagers converge on one answer it might be a sign it's just correctouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:06 amamen
happens all the time lmao
how many games have you guys even played together? didn't c4 say he's wolfed twice or something?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:07 amit's not a joke. c4 has never misread me in a game before. if c4 is a villager then he's misreading me for the first time ever. if c4 is a wolf then he's TMI'ing me as town. in either reality, the odds of me being town are more likely than not. i don't understand why an argument like that makes you feel "wrong" - you're gonna have to be less abstract about itouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:52 amLike I get in the world where it's a joke but it's still a joke that has the intended effect to make you think along those linesouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:49 am That line SPF wrote about reading C4 as a villager so they should be a villager just felt super wrong
@bronana
Ordered list, I guess ?
what post are you talking about?outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:52 amLike I get in the world where it's a joke but it's still a joke that has the intended effect to make you think along those linesouted wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:49 am That line SPF wrote about reading C4 as a villager so they should be a villager just felt super wrong
@bronana
Ordered list, I guess ?