The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:04 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:02 pm fine, sorry i’ll try not be an ass

really have no idea how anyone could consider me as a wolf here though, and especially not a wolf with axe who i have been trying to kill all game as everyone ignores me
1. Brief speculation of a thought and posting it is not tantamount to believing it and pushing it as a reality.
2. You are right that you are probably the least likely pairing.
3. Being suspected is not an insult, nor is it a justification for lashing out.

you’re right, sorry

one thing to note re: the marmot kill

from wolves’ pov the setup was either 1 or C

they knew that a BP was in the game from the start because BP is always with two goons but they didn’t know whether watcher or tracker was the other PR

and watcher is the most dangerous town PR in the matrix and the possibility of it being in the game would definitely make wolves dodge

my guess is they thought i would be watched N1 (or jay if he’s v) so they went for marmot instead? so i don’t know if marmot dying over me actually means anything, which was my one reservation with NAA being a wolf D2

fine, sorry i’ll try not be an ass

really have no idea how anyone could consider me as a wolf here though, and especially not a wolf with axe who i have been trying to kill all game as everyone ignores me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:57 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:56 pm scene from wolfchat

mac: yo, you should pretend to derp about wilgy flipping BP and i’ll clear you off it
axe: nobody will ever buy that lol
mac: no dude just trust me
axe: alright if you insist, and i’ll try to spew you clear on my way down
I'd rather not be mocked please. I am not really up for it.

then please get with it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:54 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:50 pm yes because the wolf team that's left haven't spewed themselves distanced, good joke
so your solve is that i’m a 500 posting wolf who has been hard bussing my teammate since the beginning of the game?

are you trolling?
Do you realise who you are speaking to Hally?

yes, which is why i assume you can’t actually believe that

scene from wolfchat

mac: yo, you should pretend to derp about wilgy flipping BP and i’ll clear you off it
axe: nobody will ever buy that lol
mac: no dude just trust me
axe: alright if you insist, and i’ll try to spew you clear on my way down

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:50 pm yes because the wolf team that's left haven't spewed themselves distanced, good joke

so your solve is that i’m a 500 posting wolf who has been hard bussing my teammate since the beginning of the game?

are you trolling?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:48 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:23 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:38 pm Sorry for not being louder @Dyslexicon. It felt like an increasingly obvious mistake as the EoD went on.

I have two clears. I'll be giving them due diligence, but in the meantime

Axe
Jay
Mac

Who in here can be unaligned?
So I mean, we take this to presume C4's "clears" are Nanook and Hally.

Hally and C4 both come into the day with a clear on Nanook, a thought I did not have. C4 also clearing Hally but seemingly not the inverse. Both were voting Axe together over the two town.

I would say it's rather guaranteed that one of them is mafia and it is probably just C4.
i don’t understand how your conclusion follows from anything you said above it but i’m a villager
Dizzy voters alive - Axe, Jay
Mac voters alive - Nanook
Axe voters alive - Hally, C4

Obviously I have the benefit of knowing that I am town. I survived a 3/3 flip with another town. In this scenario it is quite likely that at least one of the mafia was outside the vote imo. It is unlikely both mafia were stacking on Axe. It is likely therefore that there is one mafia between you and C4. You both came out with firm clears on Nanook, with c4 extending that courtesy to you. I didn't have Nanook as clear entering the day, and I don't have you clear so that bothers me about both of you also. I have C4 as significantly more scummy than you on play (though a caveat later).

I am reading Jay as my top town still (maybe I am a sucker). You and C4 are both clearing Nanook. Nanook doesn't feel aligned to you specifically. I am strongly willing to rule out Nanook/Hally. In fact it is quite likely that C4/Hally treating Nanook is a clear is spewing him in fact clear. It is plausible that both of you actually presumed he would be read clear from "roleswapping" and are spewing him so. I am willing to take him as a clear now that my hard difference check are treating him as such.

So unless I reopen my POE and attempt to reside in a world where Jay has out of nowhere decided to perform his best mafia game I've ever seen (this is no hyperbole, I have never seen him match his town meta to this degree before). I have a POE of 3 with a hard difference check between you and C4, which essentially makes Axe a red check I guess.
alright, this makes more sense now

well i can tell you that i never freeze like that as a wolf at EoD and stay on axe when i can choose to kill you or dizzy assuming v/v

when i’m a wolf i always vote on a main wagon and i would just vote whichever of you/dizzy i thought was more dangerous to me instead of trying to get a cfd on axe

i frequently freeze and stay off wagon as a villager though
i mean, this is pretty heavily spewing axe as mafia and your teammate lol.

except if you’re reading the game i’m never w/w with axe

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:42 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:35 pm nook what’s your solve?
Well I'm voting axe so

Draw what conclusions you will

i know, i’m asking who you think he’s with

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:41 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:29 pm I feel like the actual solve is going to be virtually the least likely one and if I figure it out and push into it I will probably just get mischopped in retaliation lol.
do you actually think i can be a wolf here?
Yeah of course. What kind of question is that?

i’m the villageriest villager itg

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:23 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:38 pm Sorry for not being louder @Dyslexicon. It felt like an increasingly obvious mistake as the EoD went on.

I have two clears. I'll be giving them due diligence, but in the meantime

Axe
Jay
Mac

Who in here can be unaligned?
So I mean, we take this to presume C4's "clears" are Nanook and Hally.

Hally and C4 both come into the day with a clear on Nanook, a thought I did not have. C4 also clearing Hally but seemingly not the inverse. Both were voting Axe together over the two town.

I would say it's rather guaranteed that one of them is mafia and it is probably just C4.
i don’t understand how your conclusion follows from anything you said above it but i’m a villager
Dizzy voters alive - Axe, Jay
Mac voters alive - Nanook
Axe voters alive - Hally, C4

Obviously I have the benefit of knowing that I am town. I survived a 3/3 flip with another town. In this scenario it is quite likely that at least one of the mafia was outside the vote imo. It is unlikely both mafia were stacking on Axe. It is likely therefore that there is one mafia between you and C4. You both came out with firm clears on Nanook, with c4 extending that courtesy to you. I didn't have Nanook as clear entering the day, and I don't have you clear so that bothers me about both of you also. I have C4 as significantly more scummy than you on play (though a caveat later).

I am reading Jay as my top town still (maybe I am a sucker). You and C4 are both clearing Nanook. Nanook doesn't feel aligned to you specifically. I am strongly willing to rule out Nanook/Hally. In fact it is quite likely that C4/Hally treating Nanook is a clear is spewing him in fact clear. It is plausible that both of you actually presumed he would be read clear from "roleswapping" and are spewing him so. I am willing to take him as a clear now that my hard difference check are treating him as such.

So unless I reopen my POE and attempt to reside in a world where Jay has out of nowhere decided to perform his best mafia game I've ever seen (this is no hyperbole, I have never seen him match his town meta to this degree before). I have a POE of 3 with a hard difference check between you and C4, which essentially makes Axe a red check I guess.

alright, this makes more sense now

well i can tell you that i never freeze like that as a wolf at EoD and stay on axe when i can choose to kill you or dizzy assuming v/v

when i’m a wolf i always vote on a main wagon and i would just vote whichever of you/dizzy i thought was more dangerous to me instead of trying to get a cfd on axe

i frequently freeze and stay off wagon as a villager though

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:29 pm I feel like the actual solve is going to be virtually the least likely one and if I figure it out and push into it I will probably just get mischopped in retaliation lol.

do you actually think i can be a wolf here?

nook what’s your solve?

mac wya on jay?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:24 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:16 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:09 pm

That... is a derp to a level that's night unfakeable lmao.
no way town derps about that
What do you mean? You think mafia Axe's plan is to just pretend like DrWilgy didn't die and flip beloved princess?
you think town NAA doesn’t know the night was 48 hours? lol
entirely possible honestly
mac, 24 hours passed, wilgy died, the night changed to 2.5 then radishes died 24 hours later

nobody is disconnected enough to miss all that
and a mafia does?

i don’t even know if he was saying he thought wilgy was alive or he just wanted to resolve nook/figure out what happened between wilgy/nook last EoD

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:23 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:38 pm Sorry for not being louder @Dyslexicon. It felt like an increasingly obvious mistake as the EoD went on.

I have two clears. I'll be giving them due diligence, but in the meantime

Axe
Jay
Mac

Who in here can be unaligned?
So I mean, we take this to presume C4's "clears" are Nanook and Hally.

Hally and C4 both come into the day with a clear on Nanook, a thought I did not have. C4 also clearing Hally but seemingly not the inverse. Both were voting Axe together over the two town.

I would say it's rather guaranteed that one of them is mafia and it is probably just C4.

i don’t understand how your conclusion follows from anything you said above it but i’m a villager

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:22 pm Its purely a post to vent it doesn't matter if you know what I'm referring to or not and tbh id be surprised if you did lol
alright well if you’re a villager i'm sorry for my part in misreading you last day and making the suck for you

*the game suck for you

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:22 pm Its purely a post to vent it doesn't matter if you know what I'm referring to or not and tbh id be surprised if you did lol

alright well if you’re a villager i'm sorry for my part in misreading you last day and making the suck for you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:16 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:09 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:07 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:03 pm I think it goes without saying we should solve Nanook / DrWilgy. We should have solved that Yesterday
solve it how? wilgy is dead
That... is a derp to a level that's night unfakeable lmao.
no way town derps about that
What do you mean? You think mafia Axe's plan is to just pretend like DrWilgy didn't die and flip beloved princess?
you think town NAA doesn’t know the night was 48 hours? lol
entirely possible honestly

mac, 24 hours passed, wilgy died, the night changed to 2.5 then radishes died 24 hours later

nobody is disconnected enough to miss all that

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:20 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:17 pm Can we stop circlejerking now or
i don’t know what this is referring to
Days 1 and 2

yeah i still don’t know what it means

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:19 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:54 pm why is nook a clear first and foremost?
i don’t think a wolf tries to roleswap with wilgy there. the entire way he handled it just felt villagery to me.

also i’ve been privately considering him a villager since he told jay to fuck off but it feels like a gross read to make. i know he said he would say it as a wolf but i think people often think they could say stuff as a wolf that they wouldn’t actually say.

sucks that i’m having to make that read though
I've literally said it as mafia lol

what game? context matters

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:17 pm Can we stop circlejerking now or

i don’t know what this is referring to

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:16 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:09 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:07 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:03 pm I think it goes without saying we should solve Nanook / DrWilgy. We should have solved that Yesterday
solve it how? wilgy is dead
That... is a derp to a level that's night unfakeable lmao.
no way town derps about that
What do you mean? You think mafia Axe's plan is to just pretend like DrWilgy didn't die and flip beloved princess?

you think town NAA doesn’t know the night was 48 hours? lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:09 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:07 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:03 pm I think it goes without saying we should solve Nanook / DrWilgy. We should have solved that Yesterday
solve it how? wilgy is dead
That... is a derp to a level that's night unfakeable lmao.

no way town derps about that

who is nook even teamed with if he’s a wolf?

he’s obviously not with jay or c4 and he voted mac at EoD over dizzy

so i think his teammate can only be NAA, which again leads me back to NAA being a wolf even if i’m wrong on nook

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:03 pm I think it goes without saying we should solve Nanook / DrWilgy. We should have solved that Yesterday

solve it how? wilgy is dead

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:55 pm We’re not getting a sleep option, so perhaps the group should agree on a top town read. Doesn’t have to be immediately.

well if i can’t say myself i’ll say nook

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:54 pm why is nook a clear first and foremost?

i don’t think a wolf tries to roleswap with wilgy there. the entire way he handled it just felt villagery to me.

also i’ve been privately considering him a villager since he told jay to fuck off but it feels like a gross read to make. i know he said he would say it as a wolf but i think people often think they could say stuff as a wolf that they wouldn’t actually say.

sucks that i’m having to make that read though

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:48 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:37 pm been kicking myself for my EoD for the past 48 hours

i wanted to vote mac to save dizzy but i was hoping we could get NAA over instead and poll was closed when i went to change to mac

just atrocious play on my part, sorry
voting mac to save dizzy would have been an identical situation except dizzy would be here and I would be dead so meh

well i don’t know that and dizzy’s EoD felt better than yours in the moment

but w/e i’m not gonna dwell on it, just hope you’re a villager so i can save some face

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:47 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:44 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:38 pm Sorry for not being louder @Dyslexicon. It felt like an increasingly obvious mistake as the EoD went on.

I have two clears. I'll be giving them due diligence, but in the meantime

Axe
Jay
Mac

Who in here can be unaligned?
i wouldn’t unalign any of them from each other
that's quite a statement to make out of hand? how much effort did you consume determining that before you arrived there?

i didn’t reread anything in the night because i was sick of the game but i don’t remember anything that unaligns you three

if there’s something i’m missing feel free to tell me

nook
jay
mac
c4
NAA

taking out nook

jay
mac
c4
NAA

jay/mac - lol if this is the team, sadly not even impossible at all but we’re probably losing if so
jay/c4 - possible but seems not likely because of jay’s vote on c4 at EoD
jay/NAA - possible
mac/c4 - seems not likely because c4 stayed off wagon at EoD
mac/NAA - possible
c4/NAA - possible

this is all off the top of my head so if you think i’m missing something lmk

afair NAA works with anyone and c4 is only really a good fit with NAA

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:38 pm Sorry for not being louder @Dyslexicon. It felt like an increasingly obvious mistake as the EoD went on.

I have two clears. I'll be giving them due diligence, but in the meantime

Axe
Jay
Mac

Who in here can be unaligned?

i wouldn’t unalign any of them from each other

either NAA is a wolf or the game makes no sense so i assume it’s the former

i really have no idea why it was impossible to get him killed both days and i’m always voting him today barring some earth shattering revelation

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:34 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:32 pmcan we sleep?
We can't

welp

been kicking myself for my EoD for the past 48 hours

i wanted to vote mac to save dizzy but i was hoping we could get NAA over instead and poll was closed when i went to change to mac

just atrocious play on my part, sorry

i’m clearing nook forever

your move wolves

can we sleep?

idk what to do here

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

cfd NAA?

i really don’t know what’s going on

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:54 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:53 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:52 pm Anyways I hard CC put me over today idc
then vote wilgy
No we should never kill either of us

wtf are u doin pal

omg

just kill wilgy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:52 pm Anyways I hard CC put me over today idc

then vote wilgy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:51 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:50 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:50 pm wilgy faked a BP claim when it looked like he was going down so he could try to read reactions and see who the real BP is

there’s no reason a villager does that
@DrWilgy You need to HARD CLAIM bp if you are one
Aye, fine.

This is the hard claim. I'm it and ther'll b3 2 cycles.

I recended when I saw nook post thinking there's a chance to avoid double night.

nook are you cc’ing? yes or no

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:50 pm I've never been one for derptells.

BUT.

I'm alittle baffled that you'd think a wolf would flub around the hammer like I did day 1.

lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:49 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:46 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:44 pm there’s things wolves do not ever fake and c4 thinking dizzy was softing a red check on me at SoD and soft communicating about it itt is one of those things
Yeah, I don't agree with this.
with respect, i don’t care what you agree with
no need to be like that... wilgy is just wilgen

no he’s open wolfing

wilgy faked a BP claim when it looked like he was going down so he could try to read reactions and see who the real BP is

there’s no reason a villager does that

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:46 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:44 pm there’s things wolves do not ever fake and c4 thinking dizzy was softing a red check on me at SoD and soft communicating about it itt is one of those things
Yeah, I don't agree with this.

with respect, i don’t care what you agree with

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:45 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:44 pm there’s things wolves do not ever fake and c4 thinking dizzy was softing a red check on me at SoD and soft communicating about it itt is one of those things
I've seen tsp fake basically this lol

c4 is not tsp lol

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