The Syndicate

i’ve decided to employ the revolutionary tactic of “wait for alison to post more”

truly elite, i know

meh, i dunno

i probably shouldn’t underestimate the kind of WIFOM alison can do as a wolf

but she has no issues bussing a slot like gavial’s so she would really have to be banking on getting villa read off this line of thinking, and that doesn’t really feel right to me

but i don’t really like her other posts either, not just re: gavial so i dunno

i don’t really think alison and gavial are w/w

just doesn’t make sense

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:10 pm I don't feel like people are fairly listening to what I have to say about Gavial. At several points in this conversation I have felt as though my words have been distorted or that the meaning I'm trying to get through isn't getting through. Nor do I have confidence that I'm going to sway you on this.

So let's talk about something else. I raised a read on Visor being townie because he seemed to genuinely believe that my read on nutella's wagon was truly nonsensical, when if he was scum he would know deep in his heart that it made sense. It didn't get much attention and got buried by the Gavial stuff. Can you talk to me about that/Visor in general?

i didn’t really get your read on him

i’ve never seen him wolf but i would be surprised if getting indignant about something he thought was nonsensical is out of his wolf range

i get you’re saying “would he get indignant if he knew i was right because he’s a wolf?” and my take is still “yeah, probably”

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:07 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:06 pm i finally gave myself a custom undertitle
How do you do that?

you need to be staff or ask for staff to give you one

i finally gave myself a custom undertitle

mfw when i’m trying to bus gavial and alison won’t let me

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:33 pm I think alison is wolfier than gavial

i wouldn’t go that far lol

Amy wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:29 pm to play devil's advocate:

for alison to have TMI that seth is a wolf, see THAT iso, and decide that she can pass it off as "indistinguishable from his wolfgame" in a manner that would get us to back off of him here requires alison to either think we're REALLY dumb or for her to somehow not see the difference despite having tmi

i guess it could be the sort of outlandishly brazen claim that i've heard w!alison likes to make? dunno. never seen her wolfgame

but on the surface it's such an obtuse point in seth's defense that i'm tempted to call it unaligned as a lv1 read, just because in what universe does that ever work?

(on the other hand if gavial does somehow wind up a villager i kinda just wanna park a vote on alison and go afk for 47 hours 59 minutes)

pretty much, yeah

i have a hard time believing alison would genuinely think she could keep the wagon off gavial if they’re w/w so this would have to be some bizarre wifom play where alison makes herself look so aligned with gavial that when he flips wolf we level ourselves into v reading her

that or gavial is actually a villager somehow and alison has TMI

i dunno, i also don’t like her read on me and felt like it was TMI-ish and as others have pointed out, her take on nutella’s wagon was bizarre

i’m not really used to being baffled by the things alison says regardless of her alignment so i dunno what to do with all this

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:22 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:21 pm alison's a wolf lol
I'm not I promise.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:17 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:06 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:55 pm I think Marluxion and Vulgard are both town. outed wolf's outrage over my take on nutella's wagon is I think genuine indication that he feels it was legit. I find Amy null but am willing to sheep thread consensus on her for today. nutella is lock town. That leaves the rest of the game in the POE. If I wanted to stretch I could give Hally a townread on tone as well.
i don’t think my tone has been villagery and if anything i’m coming across more flat than usual because i’m really tired today

plus tone is a bad way to read me in general because i have good tone as a wolf

so this read on me is a bit weird
I did say it was a reach.

But I was referring to the way you responded to Arete accusing you of claiming wolf as wolf. It felt like you were genuinely trying to get across to them and make sure you two are on the same page rather than lean hard on your meta to wipe away the accusation or push them for having sketchy reasons to suspect you.

Call it a gut read if you want.

i really have a hard time believing you’d v read me for that post but alright

also sorry, my last post to you re: gavial may have been a bit harsh

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:16 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:09 pm can you link a game where he was a villager and was “indistinguishable” from his wolf game?
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 276&t=2101

i just skimmed the first two pages of that game (not his iso) and like, are you joking? he’s playing nothing like there

he’s one billion percent a wolf

fwiw i think the general consensus that i’m meh at best and wolfy at worst is a fair assessment of my play so far and that v reading at this point would be kind of absurd

if anything i’m more sketched out by alison wanting to v read me for “good tone” and i don’t really believe she believes that

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:03 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:59 pm i.e. perfectly fine things that don’t really go anywhere and are easy to say
I haven't played with Visor at all apart from Stardew Valley where he posted mostly in GIFs and was in a hydra anyway.

What are your thoughts on my argument that his mindset wrt the nutella wagon has TMI-ed himself as town?

run it by me again? i didn’t really get it

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:01 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:58 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:56 pm I don't know how to put this gently so I am just going to ask if you are all aware that Gavial is Seththeking and that being anti-town is NAI for him.
im aware and am not voting him

im trrying to determine if he's a wolf because he's supposed to be relatively easy to read
My take on Gavial's meta is that when he's town half the time he's really obvious town and half the time he's indistinguishable from his wolf meta.

Some people have proposed that if his logic is too sound or if his reads aren't wacky and weird enough he's scum but I don't have a big enough sample size to affirm that (and I have used that very "tell" as a way to frame him when I was mafia and he was town).

I think when Gavial is falling into that segment of his meta where he's indistinguishable from his wolf meta he's actually not very easy to read, and he certainly is in that place right now. I think Gavial is like ~rand atp and the votes on him for being anti town are kinda lazy.

can you link a game where he was a villager and was “indistinguishable” from his wolf game?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:58 pm dya v for thinking the scumreads on them are unfair

dya would have that reaction as a wolf too

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:55 pm I think Marluxion and Vulgard are both town. outed wolf's outrage over my take on nutella's wagon is I think genuine indication that he feels it was legit. I find Amy null but am willing to sheep thread consensus on her for today. nutella is lock town. That leaves the rest of the game in the POE. If I wanted to stretch I could give Hally a townread on tone as well.

i don’t think my tone has been villagery and if anything i’m coming across more flat than usual because i’m really tired today

plus tone is a bad way to read me in general because i have good tone as a wolf

so this read on me is a bit weird

Amy wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:49 pm i think nutella is a villager regardless of hally's alignment

i don’t know if this is because “hally wouldn’t be wrong on nut regardless of their alignment” or not but in case it is, i don’t really like when people sheep my reads on nutella or anyone really because then i feel more pressure to be correct and start second guessing myself even though realistically i’m probably correct on her

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:43 pm
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:42 am few things:

1) think nutellas knee jerk reaction (and it is a knee jerk imo - seems obv and the justification locks it in) to a tangrowth push is probably the villageriest thing she has going for her. spf is obv right on nutellas posts earlier (just wanted to note this for posterity). i understand the emotion reads but i feel they are kinda lame and assume that nutella cant get annoyed as a wolf.

2) gavial votes, my understanding of their play means they (votes) seem fine but obv see how it plays out

3) dont think the tangrowth push by arete is wolfy and i understand how someone could get there, i entertained a brief push there earlier but i believe it is more likely to be tangrowth getting into ww after being out for a bit regardless of alignmnet (though i dont fault anyone for not buyin that)

4) go rams

5) if that alison post is real and not just haha faking xd its bizarre. like just straight up you cannot believe that as a villager
I think this post is decently townie.

that was the visor post that gave me “reasonable wolf” vibes

i.e. perfectly fine things that don’t really go anywhere and are easy to say

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:40 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:34 pm dya’s posts don’t seem as wolfy as the org game but i don’t think they’re villagery either
you didnt think i was villagery on d1 of CoV either

right, which is why i’ve mostly been leaving you alone and letting you do your thing

outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:19 pm hallys posts are wolfy

so they must be a villager imo

i mean, you’re not wrong

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:06 pm I forgot gavial but I sort of touched on it in my reply to dizzy. gav is playing an antitown game at minimum but I'm not really sure what that means for his alignment

i don’t really think he’s being anti-town? or at least not actively so. that would require him to be doing something

how much experience do you have with him? why is he “anti-town” as opposed to “wolfy”?

fwiw i have nutella as pretty much lock villa at this point

and yes, this is TMI

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:04 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:59 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:55 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:52 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 pm it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me
there's not much to say and i don't want to get into a fight about it, you just don't seem like town dya so far I doubt you will go down today while Gav exists, if you're town I should get there in time.

what are your three strongest reads in either direction?
alison most wolfy - have talked about her

towniest is probably tangy. I had them as sort of towny before but I liked their wall, too. I just think there was a lot of detail in there that wouldn't be if he were a wolf?
I didn't care for alison's posts either, but I know from past experience with her as v/v (admittedly small sample) that I find a non-trivial part of her approach to the game somewhat alien. She's also barely posted and it was all on page 1/2 iirc, hoping to get a better handle on her when she returns.

interesting, I did like tangy's wall and possibly am being unfair with her. lol maybe i'm just used to getting an extensive sampling of 500 posts where i can immerse myself in her mindset and see the villagy POV

any thoughts on amy, nutella, or gavial?
i have amy as probably villa. It's kind of a feel thing with amy

nutella actually feels wrong to me. I know I was fucking around with you guys when I said her posts aren't bad yet...but they haven't been good either. I'm not getting that v nutella tone I'm used to seeing. She kind of feels like she did in the game where she was 3p

didn’t you make this read almost word for word D1 of CoV?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:03 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:00 pm sunbae’s whole sequence re: spf’s guide was villagery
Can you be villagery?

No.

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:02 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:00 pm sunbae’s whole sequence re: spf’s guide was villagery
where's your head at hally? feel like i've seen you townread a bunch of people and wolfread seth, any other people you think are worth looking into as possibly being of the lupine persuasion?

generally i think most people are varying degrees of fine and the only person i really wolf read is gavial, yeah

not inspiring but shrug, i didn’t expect to get wolf reads easily in this playerlist

dya’s posts don’t seem as wolfy as the org game but i don’t think they’re villagery either

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:02 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:59 pm @dyachei What is your read on me?

Can you talk about how Alison is your top scum read when she has only 7 posts in the game? I'm not saying it's wrong, and I you probably have talked a lot about it, but if you would restate, I'd appreciate. I did read Alison's ISO btw.
I really like tangy's read of you. I think you've come into the thread with low expectations and have outperformed them to a ridiculous amount. I don't really agree with you on gavial because it seems like he's being antitown at minimum if not outright wolfy. But i think your process feels right to me

i also know that you can be a scary wolf. So i'm calling you light v but I've got the fear

i dunno why but the bolded line feels wolfy to me

just seems kinda fake and like you’re saying stuff you think you should say

but now that i write out this post i don’t really feel strongly about it, meh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:54 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:34 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:28 pm @Hally Make a read on me, do it for science!

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:30 pm What’s your cases on me?
@Hally
@staypositivefriend
you seem like a wolf

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:32 pm Wait lol, Hally and SPF are voting what used to be a 4 post Gavial. LOL

@Hally @staypositivefriend I'm going to crush your dreams if any or both of you are mafia and I get to ever read this game. Terrible votes!
i’m pretty happy with my vote, actually
>> rand scum

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:59 pm why is arete town?

I just get the sense they're the reasonable sounding wolf who is not actually that villagy once you step back and think about it

it’s possible i was too quick to call arete villagery for that one post, dunno

where are you at on visor? some of his posts gave me those “reasonable wolf” vibes but others seemed fine

outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:49 pm also can yall pls give your opinion on amy once this conversation has run its course

please and thank u

i think she’s villagery but i’m not sure i feel as strongly about it as i did yesterday

do you have concerns?

sunbae’s whole sequence re: spf’s guide was villagery

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:45 pm Arete, Hally, and Gavial all currently have votes of those in my POE. I'll vote Hally.

[VOTE: Hally] aubergine

how’d you go from saying i was the person in your PoE you felt best about to voting me? did i misunderstand something?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:28 pm @Hally Make a read on me, do it for science!

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:30 pm What’s your cases on me?
@Hally
@staypositivefriend

you seem like a wolf

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:32 pm Wait lol, Hally and SPF are voting what used to be a 4 post Gavial. LOL

@Hally @staypositivefriend I'm going to crush your dreams if any or both of you are mafia and I get to ever read this game. Terrible votes!

i’m pretty happy with my vote, actually

vulgard seems like a villager

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:35 am What’s villagery about that Arete post, Hally?

i think the first paragraph re: you responding to arete and apologizing to them as though you had TMI that they’re a villager is a villagery thing for arete to think

it’s not unfakeable and i have no idea what their wolf range is, but it struck me as genuine

Arete wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:05 am
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:56 pm
Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:54 pm
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:52 pm I'm sorry you think my questions are filler.
why are you apologizing to me

(this is a serious question, to be clear)
Calling someone's questions filler implies that you think they're meaningless, and I don't like the idea of failing to contribute to a game, it's a disservice to the other players.
mrr

your post sort of felt like you were approaching it from the perspective of knowing that I'm a villager (as opposed a wolf trying to get you misexe'd) with the apology in particular feeling like you were trying to appease me

but your perspective basically makes sense from the perspective of you believing that (regardless of your alignment) I think you're being filler-y?

do you believe my push on you to be alignment-indicative?

(also to be clear I wasn't trying to imply that you shouldn't ask those questions if you are town and asking them helps you solve the game)

this post feels villagery to me

Arete wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:16 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:09 am

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:48 pm also just for the record I moved my vote off Hally but I still think their opener sucked a lot
why?

I guess technically it wasn't literally your opener but I disliked your early response to Nutella calling you a wolf

Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:43 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:39 pm I'm apparently very good at analyzing data patterns, strong intuition and providing actionable insights

So anyway hally is a wolf
it’s all true

Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:47 pm [VOTE: hally] aubergine

in my experience wolves are more likely than villagers to respond to pressure by being like 'yes you caught me I'm a wolf' because they don't know how to effectively respond to it and resort to joking about it to try to play it off, whereas villagers are less likely to respond by wolfclaiming because ... why would you

it's a bit of a level one read but it's >rand to be accurate

that’s what figured. well fwiw my response is NAI for me. i wolf claim and self-vote for the memes as either alignment, but lol self-meta

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:19 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:09 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:47 pm I think nutella is town and the wolves are trying to shove through a cheap misexe on someone who is normally difficult to misexe.

This points towards mafia on her wagon, which is to say sunbae/bronana/outed wolf. Probably bronana for overexplaining his vote and trying to pocket the other two by saying they're the pillars of the town.
i don’t really understand this read. why are you assuming that nutella is getting pushed by wolves as opposed to villagers who are wrong and/or don’t know her well? what specifically about the pushes is wolfy? i feel like i can see where zack and spf are coming from even though i disagree

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:48 pm also just for the record I moved my vote off Hally but I still think their opener sucked a lot
why?

—————

i had similar thoughts to arete as i was reading tangy’s catchup but decided to withhold judgment and observe her more. not sure where i’m at on her atm. @staypositivefriend why did you like tangy’s posts?
tangygrowth burst into a relatively tense thread and immediately became a beacon of positive energy. her primary concern wasn't to ~blend in~ or spew out a bunch of takes, but rather, to change the atmosphere of the thread and to make sure that everyone was still having fun. even as she was doing that, she zero'd in on nutella for a little while and made a point of outing a read on her (which i found villagery, or at least indicative of tangy trying to gradually get more comfortable with the game by focusing on someone that she already knows)

the strong tone paired with the lack of posts that felt focused on an agenda made me think that she was most likely just a villager. typical caveat that this read will change if tangy's trajectory doesn't go where i anticipate it will go

alright, thanks. i think tangy’s energy is more her personality than AI but i’ve never seen her wolf so i could be wrong. i do know she has a reputation as a very good wolf though

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:47 pm I think nutella is town and the wolves are trying to shove through a cheap misexe on someone who is normally difficult to misexe.

This points towards mafia on her wagon, which is to say sunbae/bronana/outed wolf. Probably bronana for overexplaining his vote and trying to pocket the other two by saying they're the pillars of the town.

i don’t really understand this read. why are you assuming that nutella is getting pushed by wolves as opposed to villagers who are wrong and/or don’t know her well? what specifically about the pushes is wolfy? i feel like i can see where zack and spf are coming from even though i disagree

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:48 pm also just for the record I moved my vote off Hally but I still think their opener sucked a lot

why?

—————

i had similar thoughts to arete as i was reading tangy’s catchup but decided to withhold judgment and observe her more. not sure where i’m at on her atm. @staypositivefriend why did you like tangy’s posts?

i think amy and nutella are villagers

zack, c4 and spf generally seem alright

dunno about anyone else really

[VOTE: gavial] aubergine

sbpc

spf, the short answer is nutella’s response to pressure has a fierceness and edge to it that she doesn’t have when she wolfs

ask me again in 12-24 hours if you still think nut is wolfing and i’ll go into more detail if i still v read her

there’s more to it than what i said but i don’t want to defend her too much right now because i’m not 100% sure and regardless of whether i’m correct i know people find meta reads like that unfun to play with

i’d rather let the game develop naturally

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:54 pm i mindmeld with you spf for whatever it's worth

fwiw i think spf’s interpretation of nut’s posts and everyone’s concerns w/her are perfectly valid and i was actually considering voting nutella earlier

but now i think she’s probably a villager

nutella is a villager

i get where the people pushing nutella are coming from but i dunno, i think she’s probably fine or at least find myself wanting to reserve judgment a bit

wolfy hedge m’lord

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:25 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:18 pm might be a sucker but i kinda doubt w!amy dumps on zack first thing

i don’t think w!her sees zack as a viable push early on
the thing is, i dont think that amy would view zack as a viable push regardless of her alignment. i dont think that amy as town or amy as a wolf would be gunning for zack to get chopped right now

so the argument that you're making here is actually closer to: "amy would not throw shade on zack (while at the same time not voting for him) early in the game" than "amy would not see zack as a viable push", and i feel like the former is a lot more flimsy than the latter

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:26 pm (i actually do sort of townread amy because i think that occam's razor points to her suspicion about zack being genuine)

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

i’m confused why you even made the first post if you’re essentially villa reading amy for the same thing

also why is c4 v and why are you voting nutella?

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:43 pm
sunbae wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:42 pm Well that was not the emote I selected lol
which one?

wolfy question, obviously the fish

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:25 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:18 pm might be a sucker but i kinda doubt w!amy dumps on zack first thing

i don’t think w!her sees zack as a viable push early on
the thing is, i dont think that amy would view zack as a viable push regardless of her alignment. i dont think that amy as town or amy as a wolf would be gunning for zack to get chopped right now

so the argument that you're making here is actually closer to: "amy would not throw shade on zack (while at the same time not voting for him) early in the game" than "amy would not see zack as a viable push", and i feel like the former is a lot more flimsy than the latter

sure, fine

“i don’t think w!amy would open the game throwing shade on v!zack” is a better way to say it

and of course it’s flimsy, we’re on page 2

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:26 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:23 pm
outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:19 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:18 pm might be a sucker but i kinda doubt w!amy dumps on zack first thing

i don’t think w!her sees zack as a viable push early on
dont wanna marsh your mellow but its an insignificant push early on in the game, i dont think anything of it. i doubt w or v amy expect to go anywhere with it (and zacks perfectly pushable cmon. just look at that face)
perhaps

i’m making that read with the context that zack was the main pusher of w!amy in the voxx 9er before she N1’d him, so i would expect her to be more fearful or placating of v!him

could be a premature read but gotta start somewhere
ok my last post was a joke but i actually do find it a little weird that your townread of me presupposes that zack is a villager

well yeah, the caveat of “unless they’re w/w” is implied

the alternative is w!you is doing early distancing but early on i pretty much assume stuff isn’t w/w just for my own solving and then see if i have a reason to think w/w later

and IF it’s not w/w it’s a vaguely good look for you

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:20 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:18 pm might be a sucker but i kinda doubt w!amy dumps on zack first thing

i don’t think w!her sees zack as a viable push early on
thanks for TMIing zack town, nerd

well if you’re w/w feel free to keep busing him

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:19 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:18 pm might be a sucker but i kinda doubt w!amy dumps on zack first thing

i don’t think w!her sees zack as a viable push early on
dont wanna marsh your mellow but its an insignificant push early on in the game, i dont think anything of it. i doubt w or v amy expect to go anywhere with it (and zacks perfectly pushable cmon. just look at that face)

perhaps

i’m making that read with the context that zack was the main pusher of w!amy in the voxx 9er before she N1’d him, so i would expect her to be more fearful or placating of v!him

could be a premature read but gotta start somewhere

might be a sucker but i kinda doubt w!amy dumps on zack first thing

i don’t think w!her sees zack as a viable push early on

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:55 pm 100 with no lift is gonna be hard

I might have to *gasp* gather multiple thoughts into a single post

unthinkable

Arete you already mixed up zack and nl gg

Sunbae's entrance meh, others basically ok

Don't like c4's reaction to the votes

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

am i not a wolf anymore? and what’s bad about C4’s reaction?

[VOTE: hally] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:39 pm I'm apparently very good at analyzing data patterns, strong intuition and providing actionable insights

So anyway hally is a wolf

it’s all true

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