The Syndicate

omg my first banner! ty [mention]Long Con[/mention]!

chardonnay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:45 pm I was displeased with my play failing to convince anybody of my towniness. I will have to find a way to pick up the pace next time.

chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:03 am
Tbh thinking about the game while showering I feel more and more like Mac is just town. I Feel less tinfoilly about Hally's motives as well.

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Binary read list:

1612
MacDougall

Hally

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tutuu
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
cassowary

tedxtr
Long Con

At least my reads were actully good this game.

i thought you were towny! or at least not as scummy as lc. it took both mafia voting you to get you eliminated. no shame in that. and yea your reads were really on point!

chardonnay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:40 pm Yayyyy, a town win. Even if its by mech error lol. I take those.

gg chard!

Fatmo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:42 pm I'm happy with my reads this game considering I didn't start at the same time everyone else did and had to develop them in basically one day.

you did great. like i thought your slot was scum before you subbed in but you showed your towniness well. wp!

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:40 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:18 pm i need to get better at putting my reads into words

like i had good reads on lc and fatmo for example but i didn’t really know how to explain them in ways that ppl would get
Mood

I had like perfect reads this game :P

why can’t i ever read you ted. every time i wanted to sr you this game i talked myself out of it. rip

i need to get better at putting my reads into words

like i had good reads on lc and fatmo for example but i didn’t really know how to explain them in ways that ppl would get

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:15 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:57 pm mac v
tutuu v
hally v
ted w
LC naked w

don't ask me to explain any of these reads; it's part of my "experimental new playstyle"
maybe this playstyle has some merit

alison GOAT

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:13 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:07 pm I wish I was as good as you guys.
i mean you managed to survive me trying to kill you for two days. that’s pretty good
I was extremely disheartened all game due to being literally called out as scum on my first post, and then on all my remaining posts as well... while pretty much everyone else correctly called each other out as town while memeing and IDGAFing.

its like that sometimes. but you handled it well and didnt die, which is all you needed to do

cop claims on the syndicate are never real. this is jpic’s law

also sorry nook if i was out of line to you

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:07 pm I wish I was as good as you guys.

i mean you managed to survive me trying to kill you for two days. that’s pretty good

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:06 pm Honestly aside from allowing myself to get tilted by into voting Hally I'm happy with how I played here.

Also nice to finally play a real game with Fatmo and 1612 I like da way u maf.

Also as usual nice to be the only person who can reliably read Nanook.

im sorry i tilted you rip. game was frustrating and i was also really depressed while this game was going on so i wasn’t really at my best

i should just have trusted my inexplicable gut tr on nook rip

i had ted/lc for a bit there d2 at least

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:02 pm I am so embarrassed

I’m actually near the point of actual depression, there’s no way I’m getting best civvie award now

the sad thing is i felt that was fake in the moment but was like whatever

Fatmo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:02 pm Hally I felt like you were seeing the game the most similarly to me on D2. It was fun having someone like that in the only complete day I played.

i got you

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:02 pm I've been under a ton of stress at work lately, and I need to just chill with trying to handle other things competently for a bit.

nw jay, mistakes happen

im glad my reads ended up being good but im still not happy with how i played or conducted myself this game, so i apologize for that

gg everyone, sorry it ended like this

yea we’re gonna lose this game and we really do deserve it

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:56 pm I mean I don’t think it takes THAT much imagination to see why LC would want to wait and try to get through the day without claiming if he can

He didn’t actually peace out he’s clearly been present so

he was gone for like several hours lol

we actually deserve to lose this game if you’re gonna kill me over this claim

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:52 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:48 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:18 am I'm not even catching up on the last two pages. Good luck guys.
this person is not a cop. no cop looks at the vote count, sees they have five votes and posts this instead of claiming

long con is outed mafia
There was plenty of time then for things to change on their own in the thread.
nah that’s bullshit. you would have actually tried to post and defend yourself so you wouldn’t have to claim if you were cop
Really, is that what I would have done? You know me so well.

why is it optimal to let yourself sit with five votes as the cop and not try to get the votes off yourself so you don’t have to claim? please explain to me why you would do that

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:51 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:50 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:47 pm I am a cop. I was hoping to not have to claim.
no you are not. no cop says “im not reading have fun bye” seven hours before eod when they have five votes on them
Well, since I obviously didn't literally "bye bye"...

lc stop. no cop doesn’t try to fight their elimination at all and just peaces out of the thread. you are not a fucking cop

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:48 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:18 am I'm not even catching up on the last two pages. Good luck guys.
this person is not a cop. no cop looks at the vote count, sees they have five votes and posts this instead of claiming

long con is outed mafia
There was plenty of time then for things to change on their own in the thread.

nah that’s bullshit. you would have actually tried to post and defend yourself so you wouldn’t have to claim if you were cop

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:47 pm I am a cop. I was hoping to not have to claim.

no you are not. no cop says “im not reading have fun bye” seven hours before eod when they have five votes on them

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] [mention]MacDougall[/mention] [mention]tedxtr[/mention] get your votes off me jesus christ. lc is not cop

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:18 am I'm not even catching up on the last two pages. Good luck guys.

this person is not a cop. no cop looks at the vote count, sees they have five votes and posts this instead of claiming

long con is outed mafia

long cons claim is bullshit, hes not a cop

if he was a cop he would have claimed several hours ago when he saw he had 5 votes not said “im not reading bye have fun”

that is not someone who has a claim. he literally just made it up. think please

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:54 am This game has more posts than Avatar did already. It stands to reason anyone that posted there is going to have more content here because the game is more active. Stop making bad defenses of someone you're supposed to not know the alignment of. Last time you did that you embarrassed the shit out of yourself Hally.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:55 am The only thing that is holding me back from insisting everyone vote for you is that I am getting anni flashbacks. That's literally the only thing.

ok so vote fatmo. i don’t give a fuck. im voting lc because i think hes mafia and i don’t think fatmo is. if im wrong im wrong. like idk what you want from me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:49 am LC with 5 votes on him right now in a game that has felt conflicted, confused and antagonistic means that he is town. The chances of the town coalescing on mafia in this environment are effectively nil. There is no viable team that contains him in it because if there was one he wouldn't have five votes.

this is silly. he only has one teammate and if its nook he jumped on late so i don’t see how that’s relevant. like nook ks hardly doing anything. he doesn’t have the thread pull to get votes away from lc. he tried to push me and couldn’t get anyone to vote there with him and he sees that i can get votes on lc so hes bussing. why is that not possible?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:45 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:43 am yes but somewhere in between having him in the poe and starting to shield him i actually went and looked at the game where he was scum and compared it to his iso here and saw it was night and day. have you done that yet mac? because you should
Explain why it's relevant. Nothing immediately jumps out at me. He seems scummy here, scummy there. Post volume doesn't count because this game is just always going to be more active because it had me, Tutuu, Alison and you in it so there is more content to react to.

his depth of thought here is greater and he seems way more comfortable to me. and yea i do think it’s significant how much hes posting here compared to posting like ten times over an entire game. that big of a post count jump is alignment indicative. its not even close

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:46 am If one of Nook and Hally isn't mafia I will eat a shoe.

And that means LC is town.

or nook is teamed with lc? why is that not a thing? nook only got on after i started pulling votes onto lc

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:43 am Now Hally is just existing stage left because Nanook is defending himself while I am casing her. Please. Stand your ground please.

mac i have like 7 posts left. i don’t really care about your case. im not getting eliminated

yes but somewhere in between having him in the poe and starting to shield him i actually went and looked at the game where he was scum and compared it to his iso here and saw it was night and day. have you done that yet mac? because you should

ok nook whatever sorry i tried interacting with you

i have ten posts left i think so gonna save them bye

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:24 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:23 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:22 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:15 am Does Hally/Fatmo make sense as a team?
2/3 claims being mafia would be a huge lol

Not impossible but like

I’d have to see more hard claims to believe it tbh
i thought you were 90% sure fatmo is town. what happened to that?
How does this question have anything to do with what you’re quoting

because you are clearly considering fatmo as mafia in that quote which is a change from when you said he was 90% likely to be town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:22 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:15 am Does Hally/Fatmo make sense as a team?
2/3 claims being mafia would be a huge lol

Not impossible but like

I’d have to see more hard claims to believe it tbh

i thought you were 90% sure fatmo is town. what happened to that?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:14 am Like it goes;

Mac is town
Oh it must be Mac/LC/Nook
Mac/Nook are pure town it must be Ted/LC
Not Ted said some stuff so it's LC/Nook

I don't understand the progressions, and I usually do.

And the way she has dealt with Fatmo is totally different. Seemingly just lock towning him for reasons that don't vibe for me. She's shielding him and just shifting around on the other four names hoping eventually one of the places she locks onto will just vibe enough with the rest of us.

And the way that she pushed me to just sheep Nanook's townread on Fatmo felt really manipulative too.

i also lock towned 1612

like mac. read how fatmo was in avatar. he’s not scum. and it makes sense to sheep nook because hes either tmi-ing fatmo to pocket him because they know each other or he’s correctly tr’ing fatmo because they know each other. but like regardless of how you read nook his tr on fatmo is safe to sponge and fatmo independently reads very pure to me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:10 am I am scared that Hally will belittle me for this but I feel like her reads are coming too easy. She's just shifting around. Whenever someone remotely tries she's just townreading them and then moving to the next easy target. Doesn't feel like there is any depth of analysis.

i mean this is true. im just throwing shit out and seeing how it feels and how ppl interact with it. idk what else to do. like im really not having an easy time getting good reads this game

why is this scummy though? like this is not how i play as scum. if anything when im scum i have too stagnant reads. i don’t just change my reads on a whim every five seconds. that kind if turbulence can only come from my town game when im struggling. like iaafr lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:01 am Does it work at KILO?

idk

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:07 am
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:32 am im voting with mac. im confident hes town now

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:34 am its just ted/lc

mac/1612/nook/fatmo is pure town. this is it
How did you get from this.

To this.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:28 pm ok i don’t want ted anymore. back to thinking he’s town. also ted/lc doesn’t make sense to me and if it is that i’d like to flip lc first because ted is townier

[VOTE: lc] aubergine

i also feel like i shouldn’t clear nook for being frustrating and calling me an asshole so im just keeping him in my poe until he does something towny and idc how much he snarks me for it

i liked teds reply and also no longer think ted/lc makes sense as a team. also i just reread teds iso and i think its very towny. nooks is not

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:55 am did you use it yet?

nope. didn’t see the point

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:48 am @Hally does the person you target get notified?

no idea. i assume not?

ill just claim in case this helps in any way at all

twice per game i can target a player at night and they get a half vote added to them the next day. so essentially i would break any tie between the player i target and another player

my role is very weak so i don’t think its impossible it exists alongside a conditional roleblocker and a one-shot doc but it probably means both mafia have some powers too

here’s what we’re gonna do

we’re gonna kill lc. then when lc flips scum fatmo is gonna block nook/ted since they’re next to each other. then we see if theres a kill and go from there

1612 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:20 am Don't see fatmo yet as town just for claiming town roleblocker. Also didn't like them throwing shade on Mac. But that's just me. I do like their solviness fwiw

fatmo isn’t town for the claim, he’s town because he’s different from his scum game. also his vibe is pure

1612 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:18 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Can votes get hammered with majority? I was just afraid of that which is why I didn't vote too early

no maj

yea, after looking some things over im pretty sure the the team is lc/nook. neither of them are towny at all or have genuinely tried to solve the game in any way. and once again i don’t care how much they snark me for saying that. they’re mafia. mac/ted/1612/fatmo are the town because they actually care about solving. nook and lc do not

[mention]1612[/mention] [mention]Fatmo[/mention] can you vote long con? im pretty sure he’s mafia. still not sure who his teammate is but i think lc is more likely a hit than ted and id like us to vote together here since you two are my strongest tr’s

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] why is ted more likely scum than lc? and can you talk about lc, ted and nook? just like as many words as you can about your reads there

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:38 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Idk dude, I’m not good at getting widely townread without mechanics, but I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

I’m sure it’s annoying but it’s better than just letting myself die kek
i mean you bothering to write this post to me indicates that you do care on some level
I can shift to a “don’t talk to mafia” policy instead if you want ig

I care some amount about explaining where my head is at/my approach to the game, that isn’t the same as caring about your read on me. If you’d rather not talk about it that’s fine too, i was just trying to elaborate a bit so it didn’t come across as “I don’t give a fuck about what you say” cause that’s kinda rude and not how it’s intended
ok

have you given any thought to who my teammate could be?
Nope! I’ll think about it if you flip red

ok so never

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Idk dude, I’m not good at getting widely townread without mechanics, but I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

I’m sure it’s annoying but it’s better than just letting myself die kek
i mean you bothering to write this post to me indicates that you do care on some level
I can shift to a “don’t talk to mafia” policy instead if you want ig

I care some amount about explaining where my head is at/my approach to the game, that isn’t the same as caring about your read on me. If you’d rather not talk about it that’s fine too, i was just trying to elaborate a bit so it didn’t come across as “I don’t give a fuck about what you say” cause that’s kinda rude and not how it’s intended

ok

have you given any thought to who my teammate could be?

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