The Syndicate

thanks

i don’t know how to read epi

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:38 am Hey look my one proper contribution to the game was correct. Thank god.

Sorry to everyone for my activity and the distraction it caused.

you showed up when it counted

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:16 am Lmao

Shot for TRing the vig smh

have worse reads next time ldo

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:20 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:20 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:17 pm I still can't believe I caught Made off a freakin' jib-slip

I mean y'all caught him for other reasons, but I had a townlean on him before that :P
and then i did the same thing to lc. we made good use of the “search user’s posts” function this game
I will slap your palm for that one

i didn’t even know it existed until you used it this game! had to try it for myself

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:17 pm I still can't believe I caught Made off a freakin' jib-slip

I mean y'all caught him for other reasons, but I had a townlean on him before that :P

and then i did the same thing to lc. we made good use of the “search user’s posts” function this game

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:05 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:34 pm i swear to god i was so terrified this entire day that i was making some huge mistake

every time i saw @nutella watching i was thinking to myself “god she probably has the game solved and is just roasting me rn”
i was convinced you were mafia most of the time lol

was only skimming tbf

lol. classic

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:56 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:50 pm Congrats town! Excellent use of your cop check jules! Had you pegged as town 5 posts in Queen !
Ty dunya - I just want to point out tutuu and Marmots jib thingy got us Made and Hally led the group in nailing LC! And Sean was the one who convinced me to check Epi. It was a real team effort!

yea, the entire town played well and contributed. was a great team effort

is there a spec chat @JaggedJimmyJay?

i swear to god i was so terrified this entire day that i was making some huge mistake

every time i saw @nutella watching i was thinking to myself “god she probably has the game solved and is just roasting me rn”

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:20 pm Thanks for playing folks. I may add some final flavor a bit later.

The civilians played a fantastic all-around game. The mafia had little margin for error after losing one of their own on Day 1, and then juliets nailing her only ID put them in a shit sandwich. This could have easily gone the other way; so it goes with cops. Long Con and Epignosis were well positioned.

thanks for the game jay, was fun!

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:17 pm gg, gj on catching long con, i dont believe i would have misyeeted hally in f3 but i was pocketed by lc

gg toot toot, sorry for being frustrating at the end

good game everyone

the epi red check was huge. wolves could have pulled this out without that tbh

im not terrible at mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:15 pm Just kidding town wins!

i hate you

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:14 pm The game is not over.

eh?

oh cool

lc what were the bicycle images about? was that you guys?

nah if it’s a real concession jay will just end the game when he gets online

good game lc, super well played

god what a relief

i can’t believe i was actually right

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:00 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:59 pm don’t be trolling me lc. that would be so rude
I don't know LC that well, but it reads genuine. I think we just won?

i think so too

don’t be trolling me lc. that would be so rude

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:54 pm No, it's true, that was the point that I pretty much gave up trying to win this game. Good game, town. I won't waste your time. I needed Marmot to go down to stand a chance, and it had become obvious that wasn't going to happen.

wait, seriously?

i have searched all of lc’s posts for things like “good luck guys” and “good luck civs”

when he makes a post like that in a deflated tone and then nopes out of the thread as he’s getting heat he’s way more likely to be scum. i’m not going to quote every example pf this but it seems to be >rand scum for him

scum!lc in the 7th saga as the tides turn on him:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:18 am I'm not even catching up on the last two pages. Good luck guys.

can you name a town game where that happened so i can go look?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:44 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:15 pm scum!lc after the tides turned against him in grasslands:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:58 am Ok cool. That may be the last time you ever see me try. Good luck!
lc after the tides turned against him this game:
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:18 pm Ok, you guys play the game. Good luck, I hope we win.
does lc ever respond this way as town?
LOL as though that's the only two times I've ever said something like that. It's a pretty regular thing.

do you remember a time you said something similar as town?

scum!lc after the tides turned against him in grasslands:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:58 am Ok cool. That may be the last time you ever see me try. Good luck!

lc after the tides turned against him this game:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:18 pm Ok, you guys play the game. Good luck, I hope we win.

does lc ever respond this way as town?

fair enough

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:01 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:57 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:52 pm The wagonomics of EoD1 will make perfect sense once the game is over.

At this point I think it's clear it's a bowl of WIFOM.
well fypov marnot was voting a villager EoD1. how likely do you think he is to move to you as wolf with made and epi as his teammates?
I've given marmot little thought tbh, and haven't re-read EoD1 in awhile so I forget the exact timings of it.

When I left the thread it was 6-5 Made-Guillo, though personally I definitely felt like a viable flash wagon choice and half-expected to wake up to that. w!Marmot would definitely have been better off on Guillo if he wanted to save Made, though. There wasn't that much time left, so flash wagoning me was risky.

I don't think it clears Marmot, but optics look better for him here than not, imo.

yeah

i mean, epi wan’t even there and was voting made. so it’s not like w!marmot has any help if he’s trying to save made. all he can do it hope that in the last seven minutes i think it was that a random villager who is not even in the thread at the time he voted will randomly pop in and vote guillo. does w!marmot leave it up to chance like that just for the small chance that will happen and made will be saved? is that small chance worth risking looking bad if made flips anyway and losing the cred he would have gotten? i don’t think it is, because however big the chance is that made is saved, there is also an at least equally big chance a random villager pops in and hammers made instead, which is obviously what happened. and where does that leave marmot?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:52 pm The wagonomics of EoD1 will make perfect sense once the game is over.

At this point I think it's clear it's a bowl of WIFOM.

well fypov marnot was voting a villager EoD1. how likely do you think he is to move to you as wolf with made and epi as his teammates?

if anything marmot’s vote on radishes made made (lol) less savable than if marmot had stayed on made. because in voting radishes he got sean and made to follow him, which destabilized guillo’s wagon. and guillo was clearly the most viable counterwagon to made, so destabilizing it amd starting a third wagon means made’s chances of getting eliminated go up, not down. but it’s arguable that marmot wouldn’t be thinking this deeply about it in the moment

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:31 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:27 pm i also stand by my read that it’s unlikely for a wolf to bus a teammate that hard only to move off at the last second when their teammate really isn’t even that savable and tank all the bus cred they were going to get from the flip
Why wasn't Made that savable? It was 6/5/2 Made/Guillotine/MR when Marmot moved from Made to MR (making it 5/5/3). You moved almost immediately afterwards bringing it back to 6/5/2 again, and I think you sealed Made's fate, but idk how you can see Made's death a foregone conclusion at that point. If you wouldn't have been around to move, it very well could have ended at 5/5/3, or someone else could have moved, swinging the vote in Made's favor.

well if marmot was trying to save made, why does he vote radishes who only has two votes and not guillo who had five? what does voting radishes get him really? in my analysis of the EoD movement i noted how the only people there who could have followed him on radishes were you and made, and you were both on guillo not made. so even if he gets a radish wagon it would be instead of a guillo wagon not instead of a made wagon. that doesn’t save made. sure, someone could have popped in randomly and voted guillo to save made for him (instead i popped in and did the opposite) but the reality is that when he voted radishes nobody was there to do that. everyone but you, him and made wasn’t there. does he move to radishes just hoping someone who isn’t there comes in and randomly votes guillo? why? isn’t it better for him as a wolf to go for the sure thing and bus made for the cred than to risk switching off to a vanity wagon and having made go over anyway? what do you think a wolf is more likely to do?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:25 pm I wish I could answer the question of why Made moved from Guillo (town) to MR late in EOD1.

that’s a good question. dizzy seemed to think it reflected badly on radish. i think the opposite because of the lead up to the vote. made was actively trying to get votes onto radishes before he voted there (even pinging people directly asking them to vote radishes). i don’t know why he needs to do that to a teammate as a wolf when it’s easier to just get more people on guillo, but i guess you could also ask why he wouldn’t try to get more people on guillo if radishes is town

i also stand by my read that it’s unlikely for a wolf to bus a teammate that hard only to move off at the last second when their teammate really isn’t even that savable and tank all the bus cred they were going to get from the flip

marmot did make perhaps the most detailed scum case on epi i think N1. it’s debatable whether he pushed it as hard as he could have after that though

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:53 pm Oh. Hi, Martin!

Guillo/Radish is still my top guess. They may be harder to place with others than each other.

Tony and Nanook should be suspects, I guess.
Epi’s Made vote is weird. It really is.
Hally is my favorite tinfoil, as custom will have it. But don’t act on that.
I’m ok following Tutu on a town read on LC.
Marmot really should be town.
Tutu, Jules and Sean lock town.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:59 am I think I’m at this -

Town:
Tutu
Jules
Epi
Sean

Probably town:
Hally

Could go both ways:
Guillo (feeling town)
Nanook (feeling town)
Marmot

Direct PoE:
Radish
Tony
LC

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:09 am Here’s the people I think it makes sense to take out of the immediate PoE:

Tutu - Doesn’t bus with all that thread presence. Is also just town.
Jules - Refuse to believe they replace in to just bus a teammate.
Guillo - Was the target of Made.
Marmot - Grabbed quotes that helped hanged Made. Unnecessary if scum.
Sean - Was the only town read of Made. Looks TMI/buddying.

Should investigate: LC, Epi, Radish and Tony probably.

i mean, if it’s marmot pretty much every villager throughout the game has been wrong on him except you. so lol us if so

i truly don’t get how you’re so sure it’s marmot or how you apparently cannot see him as town, because i don’t think it’s difficult to make an argument for him being town at all. he was instrumental in pushing both wolves. does that make him town 100% of the time? no. but i also don’t understand how it could be so bonkers to you that i think he probably is. but lolme if he’s actually the wolf and me and tutuu are both wrong. not like it’s impossible

if it were up to me i wouldn’t chop radishes, but tutuu wants to and dizzy also wanted to. so i’m not standing in the way of that and am going to hope i’m wrong about him. then if i’m right about him it’s going to be F3 and i may or may not be alive and probably one of tutuu or i will have to decide between you/marmot. i will likely vote you if i’m there. i don’t know what tutuu will do, but i’m sure she’s open to being convinced on marmot if she’s wrong on radishes. i also will obviously read everything you say about marmot too. i don’t know what else to do. i’m just being honest about what i think rn, but maybe it will change

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:51 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:14 pm i’m just living and dying with a radishes/lc poe. if it’s wrong it’s wrong. i can’t put any more thought into this game
How is Marmot not in your POE, that's completely bonkers.

because not everyone can be in my poe. we only have two chops to find one wolf. i cannot have a poe of three

accurate

i’m just living and dying with a radishes/lc poe. if it’s wrong it’s wrong. i can’t put any more thought into this game

i’m clearing tutuu. and if radishes is gonna be the chop next day i’m clearing marmot too because i don’t have enough chops to really consider him. and then i’m voting lc in F3 if i’m alive. there you go

i’m not gonna stop people from killing radishes

but if he ends up being town i’m voting lc in F3 assuming we’re both there

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