The Syndicate

Hi everyone

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:55 pm The flash wagon onto Dunia is incredibly bad.

dunya is mafia so no

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:47 pm NAA and Urist both post at the same time that they want to switch from Scotty to Dunia, both switch votes in poll silently, both do this after Creature considers voting Scotty and tying the vote

um actually i announced it right before your post so there

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:44 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:42 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:39 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:27 pm here's a thing to think about that just occurred to me.
If creature is a wolf he's doing a fantastic job of spewing dunya town and I don't think creature is the kind of wolf to spew someone as capable as dunya town, so then I have to think are they paired and if so today has been full of theater. and if that's the case probably we're kinda fucked.

In the vein of not wanting to be kinda fucked I'm going to say creature and dunya aren't w/w together, and that creature, being not a dumb wolf, is not spewing dunya town, making creature town. Dunya otoh may not be town but we can't discern that from this threadstate.
why do you think creature is spewing dunya town?
no no that was the original starting point: If creature is a wolf he spews dunya town by dying as a wolf.

Then from there I took off and determined that creature isn't a wolf b/c he's not dumb.
so your argument is that creature would just not get caught as a wolf? or if he did get caught, that he would make sure it would be by someone incompetent?
kinda, but more like his vote has been parked on dunya for eons, so if he flips wolf here dunya is hard spewed town. I don't think creature is an incompetent wolf, far from it. So why would a competent wolf leave their vote parked there even after gaining some suspicion. It's more the vote state creature has left for himself than anything that tells me he's town.

ok i misunderstood then
and yeah i kind of agree, his play doesn't feel pro-wolf.

i voted dunya

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:44 pm I have found a game where I would have incorrectly scum read Scotty D1 based on my tell (of course it's a town tell, so he doesn't necessarily always do it day 1).

I would give Scotty another day maybe... For science.

this is what i was saying yesterday

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:39 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:27 pm here's a thing to think about that just occurred to me.
If creature is a wolf he's doing a fantastic job of spewing dunya town and I don't think creature is the kind of wolf to spew someone as capable as dunya town, so then I have to think are they paired and if so today has been full of theater. and if that's the case probably we're kinda fucked.

In the vein of not wanting to be kinda fucked I'm going to say creature and dunya aren't w/w together, and that creature, being not a dumb wolf, is not spewing dunya town, making creature town. Dunya otoh may not be town but we can't discern that from this threadstate.
why do you think creature is spewing dunya town?
no no that was the original starting point: If creature is a wolf he spews dunya town by dying as a wolf.

Then from there I took off and determined that creature isn't a wolf b/c he's not dumb.

so your argument is that creature would just not get caught as a wolf? or if he did get caught, that he would make sure it would be by someone incompetent?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:39 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:36 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:28 pm I don't really have the energy today.
you should probably self-pres
I'm not even sure if LP or Scotty flip wolves

fwiw i would prefer dunya as well buuuut it isn't happening so

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:27 pm here's a thing to think about that just occurred to me.
If creature is a wolf he's doing a fantastic job of spewing dunya town and I don't think creature is the kind of wolf to spew someone as capable as dunya town, so then I have to think are they paired and if so today has been full of theater. and if that's the case probably we're kinda fucked.

In the vein of not wanting to be kinda fucked I'm going to say creature and dunya aren't w/w together, and that creature, being not a dumb wolf, is not spewing dunya town, making creature town. Dunya otoh may not be town but we can't discern that from this threadstate.

why do you think creature is spewing dunya town?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:28 pm I don't really have the energy today.

you should probably self-pres

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:26 pm just wanna say, before night falls upon us, it's been a fun day 1 and i have enjoyed it so much that i feel THIS is what got me into mafia.

nerd

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:23 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:22 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:21 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:19 pm creature voting for dunya means he's either town or the wagons are w/w
either way there's not much reason for killing him over scotty rn
i've felt glimpses of real emotion and solving that I've felt was legitimate from Scotty. Creature I'm just meh on
i agree with the emotion part but not what it means LOL
he looks frustrated that he's getting caught by a dumb meta tell. things like "Next game i'm gonna read YOU with a meta tell and see how you like it" do not inspire me to townread him.
eh I felt it was very towny in the 200s-300s

you realize that was 800 posts ago right

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:21 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:21 pm this avatar might be the worst i've used
the avatar is incredibly powerful are you kidding me

reality is whatever i want it to be. i'm gonna get real weird with it.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:22 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:21 pm this avatar might be the worst i've used
i agree, it makes it hard to take you seriously

yeah usually it's just my posts that do that

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:21 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:19 pm creature voting for dunya means he's either town or the wagons are w/w
either way there's not much reason for killing him over scotty rn
i've felt glimpses of real emotion and solving that I've felt was legitimate from Scotty. Creature I'm just meh on

i agree with the emotion part but not what it means LOL
he looks frustrated that he's getting caught by a dumb meta tell. things like "Next game i'm gonna read YOU with a meta tell and see how you like it" do not inspire me to townread him.

this avatar might be the worst i've used

doesn't jack typically post more as scum?
also can someone give me the reason for killing lp?

creature voting for dunya means he's either town or the wagons are w/w
either way there's not much reason for killing him over scotty rn

posting that ^ in case other people are feeling the same way

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:24 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:21 pm Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.
I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

hmm. i think i'm affected by recency bias. he was pretty miserable in his scum chat in rings of power and made it abundantly clear he hates playing scum in mech-heavy setups. i didn't consider that he might just be grumpy in general.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:58 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:11 pm OK, I'm going to post my Scotty read.

Each of these numbers corresponds to what I think about a recent Scotty game:

184.794668
68.86444669
106.2587678
200.3094828
73.20672036

He was mafia in 2 of these, town in 2 of these, and one of the numbers corresponds to the current game. Yes... It's a math read... And I'm not fully explaining, but now you have the answer, you can backtrack it to figure out what the read is.
Number of characters per post?

if this is the case then this game is 106. which... considering the other numbers, i don't know why naa would be confident about that.

i just wasted a bunch of time trying to figure out what the scottynumbers mean, AMA

i'm having an incredibly difficult time trying to understand what dolby is saying in his long post above

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:11 pm OK, I'm going to post my Scotty read.

Each of these numbers corresponds to what I think about a recent Scotty game:

184.794668
68.86444669
106.2587678
200.3094828
73.20672036

He was mafia in 2 of these, town in 2 of these, and one of the numbers corresponds to the current game. Yes... It's a math read... And I'm not fully explaining, but now you have the answer, you can backtrack it to figure out what the read is.

thank you! this is very helpful

creature's iso does read like he randed wolf again though

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:59 pm I actually kinda lowkey think that the readslist is weird bc me/urist/wilgy I think are all LHF for this game but also the response is kinda ??? I don't think Rask scumread me really? Or NAA or Wilgy?

i'm not LHF

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:01 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:55 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:39 pm Yeah, going to try to spot read here and there but work ends near EoD for me so I'll probably just be behind afew hundred posts today. If I do read them I likely won't be able to parse them completely.

In this wagon state, I'm likely to save Scotty. We were melding earlier and what I've seen from creature doesn't feel like his lazy t, more like rand w.

Urist and LP being on scotty makes me spooked.

My gut read of Wolfmot has faded. Was probably just knee jerk, but Dunya and Marmot being on Creature fills me with doubt.

Someone tell me as to why I'm wrong on Scotty. Like what's the solid case?

Still think there's a W in Urist/Dunya.
NAA has a solid tell on scotty and is saying he's scum.
I'm ngl i would not trust NAA having a "solid tell" to be more than 50% accurate

even 50% accurate is still way better than rand sooo

half the players are voting on competing wagons and there's still a whole 4h left until deadline
this might be a syndicate record

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:39 pm Yeah, going to try to spot read here and there but work ends near EoD for me so I'll probably just be behind afew hundred posts today. If I do read them I likely won't be able to parse them completely.

In this wagon state, I'm likely to save Scotty. We were melding earlier and what I've seen from creature doesn't feel like his lazy t, more like rand w.

Urist and LP being on scotty makes me spooked.

My gut read of Wolfmot has faded. Was probably just knee jerk, but Dunya and Marmot being on Creature fills me with doubt.

Someone tell me as to why I'm wrong on Scotty. Like what's the solid case?

Still think there's a W in Urist/Dunya.

NAA has a solid tell on scotty and is saying he's scum.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:47 am If I'm lynched please lynch/kill dunya right next because this is exactly how wolves push me when I'm town.

why didn't you vote dunya then

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:30 am people who are salty about past games need to forgive and forget.

it's a new day, a new game.

unless your name is urist. if your name is urist, you have a lot of crimes to pay for.

now THIS is slander. the only crime i ever committed was stealing your mom's heart

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:44 am I think we can all confidently say creature has sadly rolled wolf.

His wolf tell don't lie.

what is creature's wolf tell?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:47 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:39 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:49 pm Someone look at any of TSP’s 10 posts in his iso and tell me he looks town.
he looks very town probably like if you were to rank his games by how towny he looks this would be around 85th percentile
no man lol, you look downright wolfy... like this is the only post that i even struggle to see you making as a wolf

scum post

btw for anyone wondering, my avatar is Manshoon from the forgotten realms setting

postgame when y'all are thinking about nominating dunya for best mafioso
just remember that she's not playing well you're all just playing bad

dunya ignoring my read on her now that i've given it
totally a townie thing to do.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:04 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:00 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:59 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:52 am switching to scotty in the interest of wagonbuilding, still down for killing either dunya or mac.
What are your thoughts about the other wagon in creature?
i have none, i'm just trusting naa's read.
You have..no thoughts on the other prominent wagon?

to be fair to me, i haven't read any of the pages where creature has posted

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:00 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:58 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:42 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:41 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:29 am i find it hard to believe that a town urist actually thinks im mafia here.
@Urist why
what, are you wanting me to convince you?
no, i wanna know your reasons for not reevaluating me. you talking about me makes me determine if you're bullshitting or serious. it's a way to better read you.
you've TMI'd me. you're trying to make me think you're town who always reads me wrong. you think that wolf-reading me is what you'd do as town.
if you were town you would either be townreading me or doing what NAA is doing and avoiding giving a read on me. saying i'm mafia just because you've been burned by mafurist too many times doesn't make any sense unless you're specifically doing it to elicit a town read from me.
This reads like a townUrist thing to say. Maybe that’s level 1 but idgaf

having insightful reads is a towntell for me yes

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:59 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:52 am switching to scotty in the interest of wagonbuilding, still down for killing either dunya or mac.
What are your thoughts about the other wagon in creature?

i have none, i'm just trusting naa's read.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:42 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:41 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:29 am i find it hard to believe that a town urist actually thinks im mafia here.
@Urist why
what, are you wanting me to convince you?
no, i wanna know your reasons for not reevaluating me. you talking about me makes me determine if you're bullshitting or serious. it's a way to better read you.

you've TMI'd me. you're trying to make me think you're town who always reads me wrong. you think that wolf-reading me is what you'd do as town.
if you were town you would either be townreading me or doing what NAA is doing and avoiding giving a read on me. saying i'm mafia just because you've been burned by mafurist too many times doesn't make any sense unless you're specifically doing it to elicit a town read from me.

switching to scotty in the interest of wagonbuilding, still down for killing either dunya or mac.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:29 am i find it hard to believe that a town urist actually thinks im mafia here.
@Urist why

what, are you wanting me to convince you?

Is there any point in me reading the last few pages?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:10 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:07 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:12 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:03 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:08 pm @NotAnAxehole what are the odds that townscotty doesn't drop the tell d1?
I think it depends on a couple factors, I'd guess probability is generally low, but not impossible.
I'll say one thing @Urist , it's harder to tell in games where Scotty is incredibly active since we're looking for occurences of a bug, there's more logs to sort through an the potential of false positives.
I'm really curious about what it is now.
The thing is, I don't think Scotty is a priority. He's not the type of person who will be able to kill off a couple of people and then coast to endgame, like dunya or Mac. Scotty can wait a day or two.
have i ever wolfed against you?

Yes, in mtg. My read on you is not meta-related though.
Well it is, but not like that.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:12 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:03 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:08 pm @NotAnAxehole what are the odds that townscotty doesn't drop the tell d1?
I think it depends on a couple factors, I'd guess probability is generally low, but not impossible.
I'll say one thing @Urist , it's harder to tell in games where Scotty is incredibly active since we're looking for occurences of a bug, there's more logs to sort through an the potential of false positives.

I'm really curious about what it is now.
The thing is, I don't think Scotty is a priority. He's not the type of person who will be able to kill off a couple of people and then coast to endgame, like dunya or Mac. Scotty can wait a day or two.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:02 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:15 pm less than 22h until deadline, people on vanity wagons should start moving to real ones soon thx
said noone ever

i say it like every game

less than 22h until deadline, people on vanity wagons should start moving to real ones soon thx

@NotAnAxehole what are the odds that townscotty doesn't drop the tell d1?

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:56 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:54 pm Dunya is mafia
This is posted at the top of the page so you know it's accurate
tactic thief

I was kinda hoping you'd steal my post, would have been comedy gold

Dunya is mafia
This is posted at the top of the page so you know it's accurate

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