The Syndicate

i spent hours writing "best practice" documentation at work and it's being ignored by my coworkers
is this how i've been making spf feel???

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:35 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pm I think I'm going to ensure the deletion here.

Give no credit if a wolf and give negative credit if town, but honestly I fail to see BK not getting deleted at some point in this game given their ISO; even if I don't find it very AI overall.

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine
I feel like this is overexplained

unless that's NAI when it comes to Martin in particular I don't think I've played with them

probably only scummy for martin if rej is enclave right

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:31 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:29 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:15 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:20 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 am
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:08 pm i think i know who eldridge is anyway LOL

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 pm here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine
Who did you think it was? You obviously didn't think it was me.
Marmot. I thought his "i won't bother reading c4" was bc he had shot him.
If you think I'm Eldridge, why are you voting for me Urist?
the reason why i didn't vote you at SoD was because i thought you were eldridge lol
now it's kind of clear you aren't so

Technically you did vote me to start the day, that's why I was confused.

I know I'm not Eldridge, but why is that clear to you now?

because alison claimed it........................

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:15 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:20 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 am
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:08 pm i think i know who eldridge is anyway LOL

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 pm here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine
Who did you think it was? You obviously didn't think it was me.
Marmot. I thought his "i won't bother reading c4" was bc he had shot him.
If you think I'm Eldridge, why are you voting for me Urist?

the reason why i didn't vote you at SoD was because i thought you were eldridge lol
now it's kind of clear you aren't so

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:00 pm everyone is trying to anti-tmi themselves by having the worst reads possible?

some of us don't have to try

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:04 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:58 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:48 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:47 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:39 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:37 am who kills wilgy?
Someone with a PR read that was wrong.

Someone who is so deeply embedded in the towncore that they face suspicion if towncore members start dying and they are still alive, so they fake a PR hunt.

Possibly a vigilante, with the Vault City kill blocked by a doctor.
I'm not gonna check but doesn't Vault City have a limited number of factional kills? If so, it wouldn't be out of the question for them to just holster.
Worth considering. This would be a questionable decision imo but wolves are not known for always playing optimally
It’s very possible the two teams just alternate kills each night. Vault City on Evens, Enclave on Odds.
Please read the setup

also this

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:58 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:48 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:47 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:39 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:37 am who kills wilgy?
Someone with a PR read that was wrong.

Someone who is so deeply embedded in the towncore that they face suspicion if towncore members start dying and they are still alive, so they fake a PR hunt.

Possibly a vigilante, with the Vault City kill blocked by a doctor.
I'm not gonna check but doesn't Vault City have a limited number of factional kills? If so, it wouldn't be out of the question for them to just holster.
Worth considering. This would be a questionable decision imo but wolves are not known for always playing optimally
It’s very possible the two teams just alternate kills each night. Vault City on Evens, Enclave on Odds.

no the enclave has an obligatory kill every night

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:34 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:33 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:28 am Anyway my view on the Chop message is that it was very likely copied verbatim, Chop might get modkilled for it (I don't know the exact rules surrounding copying messages), and this does not look like a message that was written as W/W theatre, meaning I don't believe that Chop and Daisy are wolves together. I also don't think that Daisy is this paranoid and attentive to small details if she's scum, which means Daisy is town.
yeah i think i agree on daisy and chop not being paired at this point, and daisy looking townish.
i'm not sure i agree that chop is scum. it still doesn't make sense to me that he'd claim it as scum right after daisy was saying it's a scumslip.
really just waiting on jjj to weigh in re: a potential modkill.
it doesn't make sense to me that chop would forget it as town when he had the names right in front of him. If he's town and is what he claims he's been thinking hard about the names on the wagon, including Esooa. He hasn't provided a satisfactory reason why he forgot it, or why he targeted Daisy at all.

it also doesn't make sense that chop would forget it as enclave when the names are right in front of him.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:28 am Anyway my view on the Chop message is that it was very likely copied verbatim, Chop might get modkilled for it (I don't know the exact rules surrounding copying messages), and this does not look like a message that was written as W/W theatre, meaning I don't believe that Chop and Daisy are wolves together. I also don't think that Daisy is this paranoid and attentive to small details if she's scum, which means Daisy is town.

yeah i think i agree on daisy and chop not being paired at this point, and daisy looking townish.
i'm not sure i agree that chop is scum. it still doesn't make sense to me that he'd claim it as scum right after daisy was saying it's a scumslip.
really just waiting on jjj to weigh in re: a potential modkill.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:14 am I don't see where Esooa is missing from that post.

Urist, Esooa, SPF, Martin, Rej, Alison, Grogu and Sloon.
Now Rej became a late CW so if they are wolf their wagon was most likely town driven.
I trust Urist for now at least so I’ll take him out for now, if you want to keep him in the main PoE it’s your choice but I’m removing him from it for now.
Now with the remaining SPF/Martin/Alison/Sloon/Grogu I think there is definitely at least 1 wolf within there as this wagon I think was at least somewhat scum motivated.

in the last line here he leaves out Esooa from the Bo voters

ChopChop wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:09 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:05 am you probably should not have posted the whole thing
Well what exactly were you expecting?

a summary, which is exactly what i asked for initially

you probably should not have posted the whole thing

choppitychop if you don't tell me what was in your message to daisy i'm just going to vote for you forever

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:51 am can i block chop

why would you block a vt

ChopChop wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:49 am Go find someone else to pocket Tony I already dibs her in scum chat, you even gave me the thumbs up.

can you just do the thing where you summarize your message to daisy

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:47 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:39 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:37 am who kills wilgy?
Someone with a PR read that was wrong.

Someone who is so deeply embedded in the towncore that they face suspicion if towncore members start dying and they are still alive, so they fake a PR hunt.

Possibly a vigilante, with the Vault City kill blocked by a doctor.
I'm not gonna check but doesn't Vault City have a limited number of factional kills? If so, it wouldn't be out of the question for them to just holster.

yes, vc almost certainly holstered.

ngl i'm slowly buying into the theory that chopchop and spacedaisy are both wolves

hi @ChopChop

would love to hear a summary of what you sent spacedaisy last night, and why you chose her.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 am
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:08 pm i think i know who eldridge is anyway LOL

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 pm here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine
Who did you think it was? You obviously didn't think it was me.

Marmot. I thought his "i won't bother reading c4" was bc he had shot him.

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

just going to sleep on this actually

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:23 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 pm here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine
why?

just a hunch

here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

i think i know who eldridge is anyway LOL

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:52 pm We have 4 dead players and 3 are Wastelanders. Do we assume that's the largest faction, or do they just have garbage luck?

wastelanders and enclave are the largest factions according to the mod. wastelanders are all vt.

elbridge should not claim. like wtf.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:29 pm

the only way esooa's defense of mac is AI for him is if he's vault city
in which case it's really not a priority to execute him.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:59 pm so far I am 0/1 on who I thought one of my faction members were

We get it, you're councilman westin, you can stop claiming now

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:55 pm Grogu ghost voted on to BK and did absolutely nothing D1.

Do I have to say anything else?

Grogu is green i.e. town pr

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:50 pm Spf is definitely probably not vault city

Seems likely yes

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:33 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:28 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:27 pm [VOTE: urist] aubergine
That’s a weird way to spell rej
rej can be scum too. i'm just tired of having my read on urist be ignored, especially after he hardtunneled on a town and one of his other hardtunnels (me) was wrong too. i find it difficult to believe that a presumably strong player was 0/2 on d1 than i do to believe that he was just pushing in bad faith like i suspected
i'm not tunneling you wtf
tunnel might be the wrong word, but "extremely overconfident scumread with no visible progression throughout the entirety of d1 while directly dodging my questions while simultaneously calling another flipped town 'outed mafia'" is more accurate

c4 was definitely outed mafia, it's not my fault he flipped town

going to re-evaluate the game later with the knowledge that c4 is town
the fact that chopchop was tied with c4 and bo (both town) for like 24h indicates that he's probably not enclave

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:28 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:27 pm [VOTE: urist] aubergine
That’s a weird way to spell rej
rej can be scum too. i'm just tired of having my read on urist be ignored, especially after he hardtunneled on a town and one of his other hardtunnels (me) was wrong too. i find it difficult to believe that a presumably strong player was 0/2 on d1 than i do to believe that he was just pushing in bad faith like i suspected

i'm not tunneling you wtf

i feel like i may have overreacted at eod yesterday

logging off to make dinner, have fun executing town!

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine
anti-cfd spite vote

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:18 pm The scummiest thing about Rej is Urist complaining about this hot potato.

i did the exact same thing in lion king where i was town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:17 pm Oh rej is probably just mafia isn’t he

Yeah ok

traitor

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:16 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:13 pm but cfds actually are the worst thing to happen to mafia
Why?

it is sooo easy for scum to jump on an eod town wagon with shaky reasoning. the excuse of "i wanted to guarantee an execution / prevent a tie" is kind of carte blanche for them to do anything.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:14 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:12 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:10 pm rej wagon is meh
cfds are shit
This is a pretty poor attitude mister.

Pretty poor indeed
i'm sick and don't remember what it was like to be healthy
Is it a physical ailment, or is it spiritual?

i have a cold

but cfds actually are the worst thing to happen to mafia

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:12 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:10 pm rej wagon is meh
cfds are shit
This is a pretty poor attitude mister.

Pretty poor indeed

i'm sick and don't remember what it was like to be healthy

rej wagon is meh
cfds are shit

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:46 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:43 pm it is unbelievable that c4 is not the leading wagon rn
what's the scummiest thing about him, in ur opinion

the tonal hopscotch he plays going between indignant, joking, & demoralized is very unnatural and reads as 100% fake

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:44 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:43 pm it is unbelievable that c4 is not the leading wagon rn

Sorry, I started another wagon instead of finishing your assignment.

boooo

it is unbelievable that c4 is not the leading wagon rn

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:43 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:32 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:25 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:22 pm as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.
We have 4 1/2 hours.
just saying.
what's your read on kza?
> rand town
Why?

also: why has this become the preferred mode of expressing reads? why is ">/< rand x" preferable to simply saying "town" or "mafia" these days? jargon is dumb and anyone who uses it should be ashamed. Get off my lawn, and while we're at it let's get rid of all these damn clouds.
kza said something at some point that i thought was more likely to come from town. enough to make me not interested in voting there d1.
i'm not at all confident in my read, hence "> rand".

i realize this is equivalent to saying "bc i said so" but i don't really have a better answer right now sorry

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:43 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:32 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:25 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:22 pm as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.
We have 4 1/2 hours.
just saying.
what's your read on kza?
> rand town
Why?

also: why has this become the preferred mode of expressing reads? why is ">/< rand x" preferable to simply saying "town" or "mafia" these days? jargon is dumb and anyone who uses it should be ashamed. Get off my lawn, and while we're at it let's get rid of all these damn clouds.

kza said something at some point that i thought was more likely to come from town. enough to make me not interested in voting there d1.
i'm not at all confident in my read, hence "> rand".

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:33 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:31 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:50 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:47 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:46 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:39 pm Esooa
Daughter
spf
Martin
Alison
ChopChop
Jack
Sloon

Mac
KZA
Dom
Sawyer
Grogu
TSP
falcon
Sd

Nanook
Marmot
Rej
Urist
Wilgy

Poison
Epi
LC
Wait wtf Daughter? That's salady af.
Salady?
As in name salad. You just put the 1-poster as your second top town lolno. [VOTE: Bo] aubergine
Skimming c4's ISO, I like this post and the read around it. Why does c4 have 5 votes?
did you read the rest of his posts?

Nope, should I?

yes.
watch how his tone changes throughout the game. i don't feel that it's a natural progression, especially his interactions with alison and dom in response to their suspicion of him feel unnaturally indignant with the swearing and whatnot. and then changing to this defeatist "oh i should replace out for the good of the town" attitude recently when he's not even halfway to majority. This is a guy with a decent amount of mafia experience btw.
dom and alison both make good points against him tho so you should read those as well.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:32 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:25 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:22 pm as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.
We have 4 1/2 hours.
just saying.
what's your read on kza?

> rand town

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