The Syndicate

actually i have to log off, if i don't get to post and die n1, make sure to kill the low posters tomorrow

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:46 pm how many days do we have to wait before executing maple, or do we just let him win for the half-baked fake cop clear play

To summarize:

Maple claims miller
HK claims "piercing day cop" which goes through miller apparently, and has a green on maple
HK dies immediately without a flip.

am i missing something, because this obviously is totally unbelievable.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:45 pm As an FYI I will be celebrating paying off my most high-interest student loans and my car today and will be getting drunk in the thread tonight.

congrats!

how many days do we have to wait before executing maple, or do we just let him win for the half-baked fake cop clear play

sure i'll bite

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:42 pm ok cool thanks urine

any particular reason there are no votes on him

because that's what happens when you're mafia

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:40 pm Can someone with meta on beeboy help me out with that slot

I've technically played with him in anni and that extra big turbo and a couple normal turbos or something but idk he feels like a big ol blind spot for me

beeboy is mafia.

Like did we actually have a POE halfway through d1? Don't think so.

The distinction between straight POE and sorta-POE is just decided based on whether you want to call the person town or scum right

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:33 pm hear me out the gamer move here is to agree to use hank's ability as a self vig and spend one vote total on the two of them

Yeah I have no idea why so many people are wasting their votes on Hank, but I think that wasting your vote is probably something town does much more often than mafia

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:08 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:07 pm
PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:04 pm 112
Sloonei
cayvie
sheepsaysmeep
Tim
Ephemeral

colonialbob
Epignosis
DrWilgy
Urist

was not directed at me but felt like responding

much more confidence in first 6
are you sheeping maple on the first two or are those your own opinions
my own opinions which were made before maple's post

your top 6 reads are pretty close to my own, but i'd move cayvie to town and put beeboy there instead

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:04 pm 112
Sloonei
cayvie
sheepsaysmeep
Tim
Ephemeral

colonialbob
Epignosis
DrWilgy
Urist

was not directed at me but felt like responding

much more confidence in first 6

are you sheeping maple on the first two or are those your own opinions

Maple wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:58 pm wasnt rej a literal 0 poster or am I mistaken?

Rej posted a few times trying to get people to acknowledge him as town, that's it.

Hank
7
10%

Voters: tedxtr, jumpluff, cayvie, ColinIsCool, Poison Chan, MartinGG99, sheepsaysmeep

Good chance most if not all of these peeps are town ^

ThisIsNotAceMarvel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:19 pm No is the same in Spanish

Maple wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:16 pm @WerewolfHunter @Long Con, @iaafr, @Urist, @AWESOM-O
@DaisyCloud, @Dragon D. Luffy, @Logic, @colonialbob
@nutella, @Urist, @Timsup2nothin, @Adam_, @SilverKeith, @cayvie, @112
@sprityo

Hello, this is your captain speaking. I would like to ask that each of you please see this post, and change your votes.

Thank you for your cooperation.

no you change your vote to eph and xalt thx

beeboy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:34 pm Anyone have any sick read cliffs they want to give me.
Talking about ITAs and roles is incredibly lame.

hot take: martin has no votes on him because he is mafia

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:54 am I do think it is a wolfy role. Not saying it's a good wolfy role that I would want as a wolf, but I sure wouldn't want it as town either, so <shrug>. It, or something much like it, was apparently just used on MU and it was a wolf role there. Not definitive but at least indicative.

Outside that I don't really read Hank as likely anything. His ISO is IMO typical low poster NAI. Not gonna jump up and down shouting "defend your read or pistols at dawn," but if you wanna point out what made you townlean there I will try to listen and learn.

The irritant to me in this whole mess is that I don't really have an inclination to "defend Poison." I hope that if she wins this duel, which I think she will, that Hank flips wolf. Not only because "wolf flip good" though wolf flip is certainly good. But I really don't see any way this is w/w and that would take Poison (for me) from moderately deep in POE to pretty solidly clear and I could stop working on that slot.

By the way Daenarys, I tried to shoot Poison too, which may not have been my finest hour if things go as I expect. In another odd coincidence, when she and I were trying to sort out our differences one of our "we disagree on this read so U R bad" issues turned out to be you, so that kind of added to the amusement when you came along.

I think the most pro-town thing about it is that it adds another kill that is at least somewhat controlled by the town. It's not "banish me or my target" where the most you can gain is using your normal tk on a wolf. It's "kill me or my target" where the most we can gain is killing a wolf for free. That's a *much* more pro-town role.

Although, I could see it being 3rd party. Win x number of duels, type thing. I don't have a read on Hank really, I just suspect that his role and the way he used it is not mafia-motivated. We can at least agree that if he were mafia, his team would have directed him to use it on someone like xalt yeah?

I had no idea you two were fighting over your read on me, I guess it is kind of amusing that I'm attacking your (indirect) defense of Poison.

i need to #slankmore

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:15 am
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:02 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:01 am LOL...yeah, not seeing all that in there.

Yes, you still seem to be whining.

That's okay though.

Do you have any opinion on the matter, or do you just want to talk about my opinion instead?
do you always respond to accusations by degrading the accuser, or only when you're mafia?
LOL...maybe I come from a site where mafia is a bit more rough and tumble, but if you consider my response to have degraded you I apologize. I just think a nebulous "this is a bad post" comment generally merits a one word scoff in response.

We do appear to be making progress though.

You think Hank is town...why? Does seem like a wolf sided sort of role I think? Hank hasn't got anything super townie in his ISO that I can find. So why town?

You think my post aligns me AND Poison, which she says she laughed at for a full minute making me wish I had timed mine. Are you planning to hold onto that alignment read?

Without making you "hedge" do you have an opinion on whether v/w or v/v is more likely here? Do you see any possibility this is some sort of high drama bus action?

I don't get offended generally, maybe degrading is the wrong word. But I'm guessing the intent behind saying I'm whining is to take weight and legitimacy away from my read on you, in the eyes of the other players. That's what I meant.

Why would it be a wolf role? Putting yourself at risk to potentially eliminate one person doesn't seem like a great wolf role. And there are probably better people to pick, if he wanted an easy target. Unless *all* of the wagons with 2+ votes are somehow on mafia, which I kinda doubt. Your points don't add up logically.

I think Hank is likely town, for similar reasons to why you are town-reading Poison. This is another thing I don't like about your post. You townread Poison for following his personal read and ITAing you. But you scumread Hank... for following his personal read and gladiating Poison. What's the difference?

I pulled a Daenarys and kinda forgot about the fact that Poison tried to shoot you. So yeah. Probably not a team there.

Hank/Poison is 100% not w/w. There's not enough passion in the reads to make it scum theatre. It's probably just v/v.

Tell me: do you actually think that Hank is scum, or are you simply defending Poison?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] you forgot meeee

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 am Yeah but I actually have to stay on Hank because people are voting Poison, which is ridiculous.

iaafr and Hank are the only ones voting there... Exalt is dead.

hank is probably town but will be executed anyway, idc, not wasting a vote there.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:01 am LOL...yeah, not seeing all that in there.

Yes, you still seem to be whining.

That's okay though.

Do you have any opinion on the matter, or do you just want to talk about my opinion instead?

do you always respond to accusations by degrading the accuser, or only when you're mafia?

this poll vote thing is not very useful when half the players voting on it are dead

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:43 am
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:38 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:09 am
jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:49 am I wouldn't be surprised if this thunderdome is v/v, unfortunately. Might come down to picking between claims, and Hank presumably just used his role. I did just get trolled by a wolf-aligned reusable strongmanning gladiator-vig, but so did Mac.

Poison obviously a really unlucky pick.
Unfortunately, v/v is possible, but I think w/v is probable. Hank's role has to be forcing, and he had to pick somebody. Obviously, he wants to pick someone he can beat.

Having no way to know vote counts at the time he threw down, but knowing what the count was when I went to bed after ITAs and what it is now...why not pick Ephemeral? Even as a low poster just looking at the poll should have pointed to Ephemeral as the easiest win.

Two theories:
1) Role does not allow him to pick the top wagon, or someone already over X votes, something like that
2) Ephemeral and Hank are both wolves

So with Ephemeral off the table Poison gets chosen because Hank thinks he can win

There is a case to be made against Poison. She has votes on already so he has a head start. Whether he is a villager or a wolf she is a choice that makes sense...but he is not making the available case.

Why not @Hank ? Why pick an opponent that looks beatable, but then not work to win? Can you explain that, and more about your role?
this guy is mafia LOL
probably with poison chan
like jesus christ what a terrible post
Whiner

Saying someone is scummy based on the assumption that another player is scum? Check.
Saying someone is scummy for not using their role in a way you'd prefer? Check.
Tonally accusing hank without actually calling him a wolf? Check.
Hedging by saying it could be v/v? Check.

yes, this is a terrible post.

Maple wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:41 am Why did they target poison

he thought poison was scummy

Maple wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:41 am Announcement

A fight has broken out between Hank and Poison Chan!

Whichever of them ends the day with more votes will be eliminated. This is in addition to the existing two eliminations.
Did anyone claim this

hank did

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:09 am
jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:49 am I wouldn't be surprised if this thunderdome is v/v, unfortunately. Might come down to picking between claims, and Hank presumably just used his role. I did just get trolled by a wolf-aligned reusable strongmanning gladiator-vig, but so did Mac.

Poison obviously a really unlucky pick.
Unfortunately, v/v is possible, but I think w/v is probable. Hank's role has to be forcing, and he had to pick somebody. Obviously, he wants to pick someone he can beat.

Having no way to know vote counts at the time he threw down, but knowing what the count was when I went to bed after ITAs and what it is now...why not pick Ephemeral? Even as a low poster just looking at the poll should have pointed to Ephemeral as the easiest win.

Two theories:
1) Role does not allow him to pick the top wagon, or someone already over X votes, something like that
2) Ephemeral and Hank are both wolves

So with Ephemeral off the table Poison gets chosen because Hank thinks he can win

There is a case to be made against Poison. She has votes on already so he has a head start. Whether he is a villager or a wolf she is a choice that makes sense...but he is not making the available case.

Why not @Hank ? Why pick an opponent that looks beatable, but then not work to win? Can you explain that, and more about your role?

this guy is mafia LOL
probably with poison chan
like jesus christ what a terrible post

Adam_ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:12 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:07 pm
Adam_ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:04 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:03 pm
Adam_ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:59 pm
jumpluff wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:57 pm
Adam_ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:56 pm @jumpluff update: the post to is poop soup and i disagree with all three evaluations
when people say things I find that wrong I tend to think they're a villager because I automatically assume it's just that everyone is more right than me

this is why I asked you
when i look for who i should kill, i often ask you. you're just a silly bun lacking in the confidence department. you give all them wolves the evil
not saying u can or you can but who should I kill? who would you kill? and why? who is not to be killed?

this is not the same as who to be voting on tho. at least I don't think. but who should be voted and why?
try again with max 2 question marks and i swear i'll get back to you on that one
who should be killed? who should not be kill? not saying I can or u can.. and this should be different from voting
should be killed:
112, awesome-o, sloonei, maybe xalt

should not be killed:
jumpluff
punchy
poison chan
maple
nanook (gl with that if you try)
daisycloud prob
thisisnotacemarvel
dragon d luffy
nutella prob
sprityo prob
iaafr for now
hyena prob

someone i don't want to admit should be considered for killing:
sheepsaysmeep

i think i agree with all of this, aside from maybe poison and iaafr.

Logic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:35 pm Me: "I'm lazy. Cliffs?"
Spirit: "Here's the 2% of the game you should read"
Me: "Why those though?"

if you're just going to complain why did you even ask lol

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] before I disappear until d2 should I vote for xalt or iiafr

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:26 pm im buying martins emotions around his shot

would veto killing him

this is a wolfy post

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:23 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:21 pm I don't think I am going to read 3k posts.

Is anyone kind enough to give me the Cliff's notes of whatever is going on?

If you're feeling lazy, this is something i spent 3 hours doing so you wont have to:

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:41 pm
Spoiler: show
So how I see things, and having spent 3 hours+ reading EVERYTHING. this is everyone by post, from Day1 forward until now with posts that are significant in some way to the game.

reading posts out of context is probably worse than not reading at all tho

Adam_ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:22 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:21 pm do we actually have to sit around until deadline orrrr
????? what's your proposed alternative? you have a time machine sitting around? let me shift my votes around first, but..

no i was hoping someone else did

do we actually have to sit around until deadline orrrr

ThisIsNotAceMarvel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:18 pm Sorry Punchy, but I felt that to be extremely personal and upsetting, I don't know Urist, so I won't judge their character or person, but right now, families are being separated, because they speak Spanish, so even as a joke it can hurt someone's feeling, and you know I don't stand for that, and I don't let it pass.

The let's killing SK for speaking Spanish, is not acceptable.

if it makes you feel any better i'd say the same thing if he was speaking french

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:16 pm everyone should just know spanish ldo smh tbqh

i struggle enough with english thx tho

ThisIsNotAceMarvel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:13 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:11 pm sorry, i was asking bc if he actually does not speak English then i'm more fine with him speaking Spanish.
also i can translate ~80% of it, but as someone who goes off tone most of the time, his posts are unreadable from a tonal perspective since i'm not fluent and a translate plugin will butcher that anyway. that's what bothers me and why i'd consider policy shooting him.
but apparently ITAs are not a thing any more so welp
if you need tonal help, I will gladly help, just ask, I will also point that out, if I find a post troublesome.

ok i appreciate that, just point out tonal stuff when you see it and if you flip mafia at some point i'll just cry or smth idk

ThisIsNotAceMarvel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:07 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:03 pm does SK actually not speak English
You are one comment about this from being my main target for the rest of the game.

I offered to translate, you can use google translate, and yet you keep bringing this up.

If it's role related too bad, if it's not have a little compassion, you are now being mean.
Unless it's stated that they are not allowed to speak Spanish, I will support them doing so.

sorry, i was asking bc if he actually does not speak English then i'm more fine with him speaking Spanish.
also i can translate ~80% of it, but as someone who goes off tone most of the time, his posts are unreadable from a tonal perspective since i'm not fluent and a translate plugin will butcher that anyway. that's what bothers me and why i'd consider policy shooting him.
but apparently ITAs are not a thing any more so welp

does SK actually not speak English

ThisIsNotAceMarvel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:59 pm Everyone that's needs help translating SK post @ me I will try my best to translate everything I see, but I might miss some.

Also killing someone for that is low and not fair play, sorry not sorry.

it's perfectly fair to kill someone who is deliberately obfuscating their posts, wtf

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:50 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:49 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:47 pm why is he speaking in Spanish? where I come from such type of posts is like using codes/cryptography and yiu are not supposed to do it.
just ita silverkeith with me tomorrow and the problem will resolve itself pew pew
Derpclear accepted

what's the derp if you don't mind me asking

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:50 pm smh at the dang americans who want to shoot someone just for speaking his native language

i'm canadian remember, yeesh
and i don't speak french in thread

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:48 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:45 pm K I’m just taking maple as an actual green check then
It's actually probably a gambit and Maple is likely mafia with HK but w/e
It crossed my mind!!

Not worrying about that until later tho yeah

the only thing i know about mantichora is from mantis. she tried playing mu champs one year and said something like "they're all in this clique and doing whatever this goon mantichora says, it's impossible to play". so i find it hard to believe that maple was a d1 check.
but hey when we lose to it at least i can say "i told you so"

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:47 pm why is he speaking in Spanish? where I come from such type of posts is like using codes/cryptography and yiu are not supposed to do it.

just ita silverkeith with me tomorrow and the problem will resolve itself pew pew

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:45 pm K I’m just taking maple as an actual green check then

It's actually probably a gambit and Maple is likely mafia with HK but w/e

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:39 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:38 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME if you @ me with top 2 votes ill consider sheeping
Eph by a lot

Probably JPIC after that

JPIC is not votable right?

If you don't have a post restriction, please just post in English [mention]ThisIsNotAceMarvel[/mention]

sheeping nanook bye

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