The Syndicate

i'm actually ok with dunya dying if she flips wolf i want full credit ty

pls kill tsp

afk bbl
i'd be happy with killing either tsp or wilgy atm.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:36 pm[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

bad vote

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:35 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:34 pm Sorta think Urist has most wolf equity on the player list
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THKNG
well, not specifically wolf equity, more than I don’t hAve a reason to TR him

if you ever TR me it means i'm probably mafia.
@dunya can confirm

wait why is tsp being elimmed now?

ok leaving now

yes we probably should have killed scotty or dunya d1, creature was a bad choice.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:55 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:31 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:06 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:23 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am And Dunya absolutely positively uses ATE as scum while insisting it isn't ATE. It's arguably her go to wolf play. That she doesn't do that as scum is just a silly assertion.
i've asked for confirmation / evidence of this and nobody responded
My bad. But she does.
do you have an example of a game where she did this?
viewtopic.php?p=410194#p410194
thanks, just wanted to confirm you weren't just making up the read / echoing syn.
Urist: I think Dunya is town because I don't think she'd use ATE as scum.
Jack: She totally would.
Urist: Prove it!
Jack: Here is her using heavy ATE as a scum
Urist: Okay, I was just testing you. I will not change my townread on Dunya even though my reasoning for townreading Dunya was proven wrong

Totes not wolves together, folks.

i'm sorry if i represented the AtE thing as a major reason for thinking dunya is town. it never was.
the main reason is peoples' treatment of the wagon. especially marmot, who has been going back and forth a bunch between voting her for info, calling her mafia, trying to spearhead the wilgy yeet for her, then going back to calling her mafia.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:51 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:41 pm can we stop talking about information and just yeet wolves pls
I'm trying so hard to do that just freaking follow me.

There's a group of players that are just super resistant to yeeting Dunya and it's hard to tell the wolves from the pocketed (Scotty being a wolf, aside) so stop freaking being pocketed.

i'm not pocketed lol, i had her as mafia until this morning.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:47 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:42 pm I targeted dunya last night with druid level 2
hot take

this is a reason to kill dunya

what? no.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:31 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:06 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:23 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am And Dunya absolutely positively uses ATE as scum while insisting it isn't ATE. It's arguably her go to wolf play. That she doesn't do that as scum is just a silly assertion.
i've asked for confirmation / evidence of this and nobody responded
My bad. But she does.
do you have an example of a game where she did this?
viewtopic.php?p=410194#p410194

thanks, just wanted to confirm you weren't just making up the read / echoing syn.

@LinearPoint switch back to tsp ty

can we stop talking about information and just yeet wolves pls

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:27 pm i switched my vote to TSP because i think he has a better chance of going over.
i do think that marmot has more wolf % in him though

source: ancestry.ca

i switched my vote to TSP because i think he has a better chance of going over.
i do think that marmot has more wolf % in him though

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:06 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:23 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am And Dunya absolutely positively uses ATE as scum while insisting it isn't ATE. It's arguably her go to wolf play. That she doesn't do that as scum is just a silly assertion.
i've asked for confirmation / evidence of this and nobody responded
My bad. But she does.

do you have an example of a game where she did this?

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:04 pm You made a triangle. That ain't a linearpoint.
Though to be fair I'm also 90% sure with my knowledge of math that is impossible.

what is a point, if not a line we're looking at from the wrong direction?

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:00 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:59 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:57 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:56 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:53 am
I'm actually honored to finally be in one of these but I must admit that I don't know who everyone represents
You’re the one in the middle
can I get like actual unironic who is what for the corners and Alice?
actually I only know myself, marmot, urist, and tsp here and don't know the rest

hollowkatt, marmot, NAA
dolby, xxxx, dunya
urist, linearpoint, TSP

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:50 am what's the thread take on marmot

marmot is an enigma
the fact that nobody's been talking about him one way or another is >rand scum.
even in the talks about "who looks bad for pushing dunya", marmot's name doesn't come up.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:42 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:19 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:16 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:08 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:07 am let's not kill dunya
Because you had a vision in your dreams last night?
Why not dunya
wagon economics, partly. i think there have been enough lulls / chaos where if she were mafia, her partners could have stepped in to save her. instead, she's still a leading wagon while the wagons on everyone else have mostly disappeared. i think this is indicative of her being town, with wolves pushing her. specifically, i think at least two wolves are in the list of people currently voting her: Voters: Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy, TonyStarkPrime, Marmot, hollowkatt
aside from that, i was thinking last night about her behaviour this game, particularly the AtE that she insists isn't AtE, and I don't think that's the sort of thing she'd pull as scum.

I do think this is a reasonable take, but do you think we can actually elim any of those players who are actually wolves while dunya is alive?

That reminds me, could you answer this question Urist.

i mean yes, i don't think anyone on that list is particularly unyeetable.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:38 am ftr dunya flipped her lid at start of d2 after she got a few votes.

TSP and jack have been hard going for her since then. If dunya flips wolf, I contend that this was a hellbus ploy the whole time for cred

i agree with this. jack and tsp look bad for the dunya push regardless of her alignment.

i'm part irish so i don't have a lot of time today. i'll try to be around for deadline but it's doubtful i'll be able to do anything more than place votes.

my preferred kills today are marmot > tsp > jack

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:32 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am If Dunya or LP flip wolf I actively would want Wilgy alive

I also think that if Dunya flips town Scotty looks good from EoD1 wagon dynamics surrounding the rising of the Dunya flashwagon. Dunya is probably a reach wagon for wolves if that flash wasn't pure and they'd instead probably would concentrate on just saving Scotty rather than creating Dunya's wagon

I firmly believe Dunya and Lp are aligned
i don't think your logic holds up. i often shield my competing wagon as mafia, to a) look town, and b) not spew them town if i flip
I don't think that the Dunya wagon gets created if Creature/Scotty are v/w AND Dunya v.

Could be a town created flash but idk who started the wagon lol, just when it started

i was specifically talking about your last point that dunya and LP are always aligned.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am If Dunya or LP flip wolf I actively would want Wilgy alive

I also think that if Dunya flips town Scotty looks good from EoD1 wagon dynamics surrounding the rising of the Dunya flashwagon. Dunya is probably a reach wagon for wolves if that flash wasn't pure and they'd instead probably would concentrate on just saving Scotty rather than creating Dunya's wagon

I firmly believe Dunya and Lp are aligned

i don't think your logic holds up. i often shield my competing wagon as mafia, to a) look town, and b) not spew them town if i flip

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:24 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:23 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am And Dunya absolutely positively uses ATE as scum while insisting it isn't ATE. It's arguably her go to wolf play. That she doesn't do that as scum is just a silly assertion.
i've asked for confirmation / evidence of this and nobody responded

The only wolf game I've seen from dunya in the last year or two was MtG Mafia, so that's the only one I could point you to to check out.

I don't recall if there was any AtE there.

pretty sure there wasn't.
the question was more for jack / syn to support their statements that this is dunya's wolf meta.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am And Dunya absolutely positively uses ATE as scum while insisting it isn't ATE. It's arguably her go to wolf play. That she doesn't do that as scum is just a silly assertion.

i've asked for confirmation / evidence of this and nobody responded

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:08 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:07 am let's not kill dunya
Because you had a vision in your dreams last night?
Why not dunya

wagon economics, partly. i think there have been enough lulls / chaos where if she were mafia, her partners could have stepped in to save her. instead, she's still a leading wagon while the wagons on everyone else have mostly disappeared. i think this is indicative of her being town, with wolves pushing her. specifically, i think at least two wolves are in the list of people currently voting her: Voters: Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy, TonyStarkPrime, Marmot, hollowkatt
aside from that, i was thinking last night about her behaviour this game, particularly the AtE that she insists isn't AtE, and I don't think that's the sort of thing she'd pull as scum.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:07 am Oh also HK is town never rescinding

correct probably

let's not kill dunya

hard on sheeting

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:32 am Like holy balls TSP is the 5th highest poster and I don’t remember anything he’s said besides ‘dunya is bad’
This is honestly part of why Tony is always town, here.

As a wolf, I feel like Tony meanders a lot, blending in by not being blendy, if that makes sense. He's focused, here. He truly thinks he has correct reads on Dunya and myself. Wolf Tony doesn't have those surefire reads, especially on two players that are notoriously hard to yeet, where the flexibility of his vote could make a big difference in how the day goes.

tmi, but not on tsp

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:47 am Someone: but you know, a wolf wouldn't be the top poster in the thread on day 2

Me: points to Highway Heist Hally

nobody said this

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion
ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today

nope

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:10 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:08 am This game is frustrating me to no end

you're a bad person

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am i associate dunia's wolf game with ... b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

Do you have an example of this as her meta? I was actually thinking the opposite last night, that she's still salty from Mac's play in space invaders and would steer away from AtE-like things as mafia.

hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:53 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:41 pm i think LP has done and said a lot of things that don't make sense as either alignment. i think that makes her an easy target if she's town.
Arguably everything either makes sense as both alignments or as neither alignment.

i think it's a scale, and that determining where a person's actions as a whole lie on that scale is the only way to scumhunt sans meta.
ftr though I wasn't giving a town read on LP, just saying what i think is the case if she is.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:51 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:40 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:37 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:35 pm hey @Urist hows it going? how do you feel about the game? Do you think we're on the right path or the wrong path?
why should we kill drwigley?
i'm literally just waiting until an hour before dl to share my thoughts because doing otherwise has proven ineffective on a site that doesn't allow hammers
that seems like a great way to not be impactful.
i'll answer your question about wilgy. i think dunya made a good point against him waffling between myself and dunya, saying multiple times that there's prob one scum there. if we're both town, it's a way to posture himself to vote either / both of us.
also his main gripe he has with me seems to be something dunya said early in the game, that something i said sounds like something i'd say with a smirk in VM. afaik wilgy hasn't played VM with me so i don't see why that would be a compelling argument from his PoV.
How does it make you feel about me if Wilgy flips mafia?

well then obviously you're scum with tmi

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:40 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:37 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:35 pm hey @Urist hows it going? how do you feel about the game? Do you think we're on the right path or the wrong path?
why should we kill drwigley?
i'm literally just waiting until an hour before dl to share my thoughts because doing otherwise has proven ineffective on a site that doesn't allow hammers
that seems like a great way to not be impactful.

i'll answer your question about wilgy. i think dunya made a good point against him waffling between myself and dunya, saying multiple times that there's prob one scum there. if we're both town, it's a way to posture himself to vote either / both of us.
also his main gripe he has with me seems to be something dunya said early in the game, that something i said sounds like something i'd say with a smirk in VM. afaik wilgy hasn't played VM with me so i don't see why that would be a compelling argument from his PoV.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:41 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:40 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:37 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:35 pm hey @Urist hows it going? how do you feel about the game? Do you think we're on the right path or the wrong path?
why should we kill drwigley?
i'm literally just waiting until an hour before dl to share my thoughts because doing otherwise has proven ineffective on a site that doesn't allow hammers
look at the wilgy wagon, for example. if dunya had waited until dl to suggest it, he might have gone over. instead he hit 6 votes earlier today and probably won't get anywhere close to being killed again until endgame.
Did you like my Wilgy wagon

ya it was so huge

i think LP has done and said a lot of things that don't make sense as either alignment. i think that makes her an easy target if she's town.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:37 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:35 pm hey @Urist hows it going? how do you feel about the game? Do you think we're on the right path or the wrong path?
why should we kill drwigley?
i'm literally just waiting until an hour before dl to share my thoughts because doing otherwise has proven ineffective on a site that doesn't allow hammers

look at the wilgy wagon, for example. if dunya had waited until dl to suggest it, he might have gone over. instead he hit 6 votes earlier today and probably won't get anywhere close to being killed again until endgame.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:35 pm hey @Urist hows it going? how do you feel about the game? Do you think we're on the right path or the wrong path?
why should we kill drwigley?

i'm literally just waiting until an hour before dl to share my thoughts because doing otherwise has proven ineffective on a site that doesn't allow hammers

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:31 pm and despite putting ppl at l-2 all day, thread has clearly stated intentions to elim only lp

this is objectively false

@LinearPoint what do you think of the people voting you?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:34 pm @Urist Above post is the answer to your question, just reviewed Scotty.

k, i think i know what the tell is anyway

jack is the fun police

memes aside i would actually prefer to kill dunya

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:27 pm oh is LP a cfcer?

is that why dolby knows how to read her so well?

don't think so

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