The Syndicate

Just to make things ever so slightly more interesting.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:55 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:54 pm Could we stack the wagons so that if wilgy unvotes creature, he still gets chopped? I'm not sure what would that mean mathematically
If he unvotes it's gonna be a tie

[VOTE: moto] aubergine

There was also a potential Rico wagon earlier, before the three-way-tie, but it didn't get enough votes and JJJ was against it. Its probably going to be further discussed on d3.

Oh and someone was on Lime Coke too back then but moved off. I forgot who.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:45 pm My vote change does nothing but silence? Are we having two town wagons here?

This EoD has been a bit of a headache considering all the commotion over a three-way tie, when the tie existed between Creature/Wigly/Lime Coke (coke was part of it due to hunger + moto's rope giving double vote; they all had accumulated five votes)

I've largely just laid back for the past hour or so and taking it all in.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:32 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:26 pm Rondo must be also a wolf, right?
Why do you think that
It doesn't look like he has done anything.
Seems probable that Rondo is silenced today. Went from high-poster to zero

No voting capability either it seems. You don't have to post in order to vote.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:22 pm So it's all AtE reads?

Think its more of a tone thing, but otherwise yes.

die_meatbaby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:48 pm Does nobody see a wagon with Martin, JJJ and Tutuu or is this just me?

Rondodimbuckle and I are missing from the poll, where we vote people, if that's what you're referring to.

Everyone else appears to be on there though.

In the off-chance that I die tonight, I do wanna share that on n1 it seems I was hit by some sort of negative utility.

Or my role had a chance to fail that was hidden from me. The fail had a flavorful description to it.

You know what I'll go on Wilgy. Creature is apparently voting there and if Wilgy is a mafia flip I wanna know that instead of flipping Creature first.

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Rico is probably something we can discuss further on the next day. I was writing and articulating more but it seems like finishing that would take awhile and it is EoD.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

or Wilgy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:40 pm Lasagna has been claimed by lasagna.

For a second I thought this was a joke but its real lol.

But yeah AFAIK you were the first to claim it so it should be your name there.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:32 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:59 pm [VOTE: ricochet] aubergine

earlier post

this post

another post

and this post

all have stuff/places where I'm talking about you, though the earlier one is a bit dated and before I've ISO'ed you in an IIOA (in case no one has understood it and didn't ask what it meant, its "Information Instead of Analysis") lens.

I do like that this rule exists. It embraces that the game is sometimes more than just solving/fooling each other.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:38 pm 7) Dead players should post in the {Dead} Red if they are posting in the game thread (off topic only please).

Honestly surprised more sites don't have it.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:39 pm Aside from all that though, if memory serves correctly, hardly anyone was discussing Rico seriously early on for this day phase despite Rico being post-restricted. Which is weird. Its like there wasn't a plan to push Rico at all, and for some reason people don't have much interest in Rico or are silently avoiding the subject by focusing on other stuff.

Correction

There was some discussion but most of that was led by Me + Seanzie in the hours after day start. And rn I find both of those to be town. Tutuu mentioned Rico a bit too but I feel like it was more incidental than anything else.

[VOTE: ricochet] aubergine

I should clarify that is US pounds. Idk if that makes a difference.

Weight is weird in my experience. But I respect people who can change it.

I've been forever floating between 130 and 160 at times over the past 10 years or so, and my eating habits generally don't seem to affect it. I actually sometimes wish I had more weight/fat so I can stop thinking my arms are so skinny lol.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:54 pm Town rarely are given post restriction abilities in general

I agree with that, but I don't agree with the conclusion that whoever it hit is AI one way or another independent of context.

Getting post-restricted is not all that harmful as wolf if you're not getting bussed, and people generally don't want to vote off post-restricted people because they instinctively don't want to vote out someone when they can't fully defend themselves. That in of itself can provide some good tools if the wolves want to start defending their partner if they so wish.

Also, if you're going to post-restrict someone, why do it on a guy who seems to mostly IIOA? Like, Rico's case never really convinced people I think and people mostly jumped on Scotty for their own suspicions rather than any significant part of it being based on something Rico said. If I were wolf I'd probably mute Tutuu or JJJ (or even seanzie) because they all have great potential to impact how the town solves, and Tutuu/JJJ are supposedly immune from factionals. Rico would be pushable regardless of post-restriction, and that was demonstrated by him being a significant wagon on eod1 without it.

Aside from all that though, if memory serves correctly, hardly anyone was discussing Rico seriously early on for this day phase despite Rico being post-restricted. Which is weird. Its like there wasn't a plan to push Rico at all, and for some reason people don't have much interest in Rico or are silently avoiding the subject by focusing on other stuff.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:54 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:47 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:42 pm I agree with this in isolation, but I am worried about how/when the wagon formed.

I've been pushing for Rico pretty hard, and from what I can tell a lot of people have Rico south of null, but then a few people are townreading him for having a posting restriction, which is such an easy narrative for scum to spin. The wagons yesterday easily could have been a Rico save, and honestly I'm worried we're seeing a repeat of that today (I know, I know, I voted Wilgy last night so I am part of the problem, but still).
i dont think a lot of people have rico south of null. i think its you lc and creature. me and jay were townreading rico since day 1, im unsure about others
Martin didn't specifically state a read on Rico, but his Rico ISO corroborated how I feel, so while risking putting words in Martin's mouth, I took him to be in the scum!Rico camp as well.

I feel like there were more people, but I can't think of anyone right meow.

That is correct. I'm probably something like Rico/Creature -> Wilgy-> lime coke currently with what I've evaluated today.

and lime coke I wouldn't be ready to vote off today in any case/situation because I see potential there with some of his recent posts being good.

I don't think I've seen many big proponents of Rico townread? Like if someone did that they didn't really make a show of it despite Rico being a potential chop of EoD1.

I've re-read a few post and apparently Tutuu has rico way up. I don't know how he got there.

on second thought I don't know if that was a transgender thing

I'm completely ignorant in the area and somewhat ignorant in the specifics of human development outside of psychological stuff

I just thought it was silly comment and I hope I didn't offend anyone with that in the off-chance it was serious about something

okay last post for the time being

That has to be one of the weirdest posts to see before leaving a game lol.

Goodnight people. For wherever its night. It's actually just becoming morning for me but I'm typically awake half or longer of the night.

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

I think even if I take Tutuu's point that they forgot to get food into account generously, I still think Creature is more suspect here. I don't vibe with his reasoning on me, and not really the thing he was wondering if he should TR seanzie for.

This is what I got so far. I feel kinda slow for having spent like 9 hours or more on this, but after doing some math I may have read like 850 posts including the posts made while working on it and not including times I've re-read them. So now I feel less slow.

I maaaay be able to finish this before EoD gets super close. Depends on whether I can get my Saturday stuff rescheduled for Sunday. If not, I'll probably have to stop there and just hang around for the times I can for EoD.
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Potato chips were great when I was a child. Nowadays they taste so salty I barely can eat a handful. I've long switched over to Saltine crackers. Much less salt, while still having some. Although they don't taste quite the same as potato chips, but it works.

What's actually nuts is that the U.S. does use the metric system but we have based an entire imperial(...? I think its called) system over it because we were too lazy and unwilling to make the switch. So technically it is a metric system, as every measurement we make can be traced back to some official metric standard, but in practice we just decide to screw it up with the Imperial system because old habits die hard.

cause you're probably just town Zenon

not that I've gotten to actually eval you in full but I've been here while you've been posting for awhile like two separate times across the game and I've not really had any major issues with you

really the only issue I can think of is that I think you're a bit contrarian (such as your earlier suspicions on Tutuu), but I don't think that's intentional (as in, wolfy) and its probably genuine and the way you've gone about those contrary thoughts or ideas has been preety towny imo

like I approve of when you were trying to openly tell people to interact more and ect

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:59 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:47 am lime coke - i wanna trust my townreads jay on martin on townreading him. im personally not townreading lime. then porscha had concerns with him too. so lime might be a bit sussy wussy. ive gotta decide which townread do i trust here
While I've been working on my post or whatever I've been shakier on Lime Coke. From my re-eval on him this post (link) it seems a bit overdramatic because its only been like 6 hours tops into the game and yet after Lime got their rand information. His d2 entry seemed to suggest having a poe of Martin/Vivax/Rico, and said that Vivax dying or whatever didn't change his process. Soon after he mentioned going full-steam on Rico because he had nowhere else to go. Didn't really feel like solving there, and the poe of me/vivax seemed suspect to me because it implies something like seeing one wolf between us before eod. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Zenon however in the midst of our server-hundred-post discussion of offense and feeling noted that Lime had a preety decent post where he backed off on a rico vote because of some other people's reads. I've not deep-dived into it because it was made after my re-eval of Lime Coke but at face-value it was towny to me imo.

So I'm like null, leaning ever so slightly scum. There's a mixed bag about him (yes I stole the term from one of JJJ's isos).

I probably should've just posted my actual re-eval. Its worded better but similar length and has more links. So here it is.

Lime Coke
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tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:47 am lime coke - i wanna trust my townreads jay on martin on townreading him. im personally not townreading lime. then porscha had concerns with him too. so lime might be a bit sussy wussy. ive gotta decide which townread do i trust here

While I've been working on my post or whatever I've been shakier on Lime Coke. From my re-eval on him this post (link) it seems a bit overdramatic because its only been like 6 hours tops into the game and yet after Lime got their rand information. His d2 entry seemed to suggest having a poe of Martin/Vivax/Rico, and said that Vivax dying or whatever didn't change his process. Soon after he mentioned going full-steam on Rico because he had nowhere else to go. Didn't really feel like solving there, and the poe of me/vivax seemed suspect to me because it implies something like seeing one wolf between us before eod. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Zenon however in the midst of our server-hundred-post discussion of offense and feeling noted that Lime had a preety decent post where he backed off on a rico vote because of some other people's reads. I've not deep-dived into it because it was made after my re-eval of Lime Coke but at face-value it was towny to me imo.

So I'm like null, leaning ever so slightly scum. There's a mixed bag about him (yes I stole the term from one of JJJ's isos).

Sheesh its already 3:23 in the morning already for me.

I should continue working on the ISOs if I can. Will probably dump what I have whenever I go to sleep.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:03 am nobody said to numb your feelings, I am saying you don't need to tell someone what to do just because you had an emotion about it because that can be just as emotionally shitty and abusive to someone else. if what they said isn't offensive but you were offended then it isn't on the person who said it

Gotta disagree with that one underlined, there is no single authority that defines whether or not something is offensive since communication is necessarily a two-entity mechanism (for those who have studied it technically, terms like encoding and decoding are often used to recognize that fact).

As a result its generally not on anybody once an initial offense has occurred and that's been clarified. What happens after is what's important, and meaningful nuances can be drawn from it. One example being the one you describe prior to the underline. I could talk about all sorts of examples, including ones which would seem opposed to what you describe there, but to do so it would reeeeaaallllyyyy draw out this conversation a lot more than you seem willing to let it drag out. Also there are some really messy situations in which both people who make it worse for the other, both have some level of right and wrong, which really complicate things and would further complicate any essay I try to make about it.

So unfortunately I'm not going to give as full of a response to that as much as I would like.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:02 am @MartinGG99 Your Erroneous Zones by Wayne Dyer

thanks

I'm disappointed to admit I laughed at the title a tad bit.

Not like I've sought to engage with you, but I'm letting you know I'm here. I'm currently working on something, but if you're looking to kick things into high gear you could literally just ask me anything. I'm not a stone statue forever doing one thing and eternally inflexible.

Porscha why don't you engage with me about anything

you wanted to get the game back on track or something right?

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:41 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:28 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:24 am It is unfair to expect me to simply stop being upset. It is unfair to say that effectively my emotions are my fault and I need to challenge myself to stop having feelings
it sounds unfair but its good for u. i went through that too, it was really helpful to me. i will send you the book later. if you want you can check it out. if you have another strategy of improving, that is fine too. all is calm
I don't think what you are in effect taking me to do is beneficial to me in any way. I in effect spent the first half of my life acting the way you think I should act now. It was supremely harmful to me in numerous ways.

Truth be told, I think this conversation should end because I think Tutuu's argument is perhaps more developed in the book and so trying to talk about it more here just won't generate any new stuff to it. The book may offer better insights, I don't know, but I would be interested in hearing about it so if you tell me the name of it @tutuu that would be appreciated. This has gone on for awhile, and while I've not thoroughly read everything it seems for the past 50 posts or so things have been largely repeated.

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tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:03 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:02 am This response is exactly the problem.

It was an innocent joke implies the feelings weren't valid

People get emotional abs we shouldn't need to coddle them is putting the blame on someone who's feelings are entirely valid instead of ownership on the responsibile party.

Like maybe Belzy doesn't care as much as I do but this response is entirely dismissive and is not okay period.
i used to think this way and i used to throw tantrums every game

i read a book and i stopped thinking that way and i stopped throwing tantrums

im going to send you the book after the game

Since this appears to be discussed for some length, I thought I would share my own perspective on things. Maybe you all will find it interesting and/or has something to learn from. Or maybe some of you will think I'm a fool. Who knows. I generally apply it to only myself though, since I can't really reliably expect others to follow the same behavior.

Personally, I'm of the belief that follows a quote that ends up something like this:

"....now nobody intended it, but that's what happened."

At the end of a day, if someone is in pain then they are in pain, regardless of intention. Someone has to heal things up or nobody will. Now I'm not saying we all should be walking on egg-shells or whatever, but I'm usually of the strong opinion of expressing care after harm occurs unintentionally. That may mean expressing more care the next time such a mistake is bound to happen, adjusting behaviors to make that less likely with said person. That might mean apologizing. That might mean treating that person differently. Ultimately, at the end of the day, something must be done to prevent further harm and (if reasonably possible) to right a wrong. In social contexts though I do think it can be really tricky to avoid the first occurrence of harm without just training everyone to be telepathic mind-readers capable of anticipating every form of offense imaginable.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:37 am thread state was even worse d1. 100 times worse d1

wha

I don't understand how thread state was worse (or even bad for that matter) on d1. It seemed like a semi-typical d1. I don't think today's state is terrible but I do feel it is worse than d1's simply because there is less activity and, honestly, doesn't feel much is happening while I work on my revision of everything. Also doesn't feel like a whole lot of engagement is happening between people at times, or at least it feels like I have involve myself more in order for things to happen.

Zenon I appreciate the posts you've been putting in, even if I haven't gotten around to analyze them all yet.

I'm currently pre-occupied with my big ISO re-eval of everyone but if you want me to interact with anything you can simply just ask. I'm keeping tabs on the thread while I do my stuff.

While finishing my ISO/review on Lime Coke, came across this post that I forgot to respond to but wanted to respond to earlier:

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:42 pm You wouldnt download a car, would you

In a very ironic twist of events, the anti-piracy advertisement which coined that saying had stolen the music that ran along-side the ad. The music was only liscenced for like a one-time outdoor event or something by the same company that produced the ads. Someone decided to stretch that to the ads they produced, and it wasn't until after years of legal fighting and requests by the artist that an exec came to the original artist to try and give back most of what the guy was rightfully owed in exchange for some of it going to the exec for their troubles. The exec was getting nothing though, as that conversation happened to be recorded and that made the artist's legal fight a lot easier. As well as getting the exec into a lot of trouble, both civil and criminal iirc.

I just realized the alphabetizer I used didn't order properly. It went through upper-case and then lower-case.

Meaning I had die_meatbaby much farther down in my to-do list than I should've. Oh well. Its an ordering anyways.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:24 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:21 am sure

what about wilgy makes you want somebody to ask you about wilgy
I"m glad you asked. Have you ISO'D Wigly?

yeah I have, as I've mentioned it before

recently got done with my review on JJJ too

sure

what about wilgy makes you want somebody to ask you about wilgy

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:00 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:19 pm Come to think of it I guess I could ask it now. I was just being weirdly stubborn about getting all those ISOs done and then asking it.

@Creature

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:55 pm Seanzie’s arrival to the game kind of mirrors Creature’s, and I like it in both cases.
You're going to have to elaborate on this. Creature's ISO looks like they've just been complaining about being suspected for not being in the game early, and then naked voting people and pushing me for not being in the game early, and then dipping for the entire second half of the day.

How does this mirror me at all?
Is this worth townreading Seanzie for? Or can he fake that as wolf?
Why would Seanzie fake this? What about it looks good to you that a wolf Seanzie might reasonably fake it for? Give specifics instead of broad answers please.
It looked like genuine indignation. I asked if this is an alright reason to townread Seanzie or it's something he can easily fake as wolf.

I can see that, although given the circumstances that may have been too easy to fake.

That isn't to say I think seanzie is wolf, or that I find his post wolfy. I haven't gotten to him in my re-eval yet (and probably won't be for a few hours since I'm doing my ISO thingies alphabetically). But I do think a wolf seanzie could identify the discrepancy and act or appear indignified.

I'm in the middle of the JJJ iso talking about how he handles Rondo, but its going into a bit of depth and I need to take a 1 hour break to do some minor IRL things (eat food and other stuff). I think when I'm done writing it I'll have a fairly good opinion of JJJ, but its rather nuanced because I don't think less-nuanced reads are something you can be safely confident in when JJJ is one of the most respected and skilled players known (and I don't really know his wolf game). So I may have a slightly different opinion when I've written out all my arguments about it.

I'll be back at it soon.

Come to think of it I guess I could ask it now. I was just being weirdly stubborn about getting all those ISOs done and then asking it.

@Creature

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:55 pm Seanzie’s arrival to the game kind of mirrors Creature’s, and I like it in both cases.
You're going to have to elaborate on this. Creature's ISO looks like they've just been complaining about being suspected for not being in the game early, and then naked voting people and pushing me for not being in the game early, and then dipping for the entire second half of the day.

How does this mirror me at all?
Is this worth townreading Seanzie for? Or can he fake that as wolf?

Why would Seanzie fake this? What about it looks good to you that a wolf Seanzie might reasonably fake it for? Give specifics instead of broad answers please.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:06 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:02 pm I was trying to find a specific "let me google that for you" website where Google does the barrel roll and then pretend that's a back-flip by Google.

But it seems those sites have changed?

Sidenote I've gone through about three ISOs so far. Had to stop a bit already because I totally and absolutely did not forget that I had something to do at 8pm earlier that I just did.
Who did you ISO? Any cliffnotes? (I assume we'll hear more after you do the thing you have to do)

Oh no I've already done the thing I needed to do. It was the really simple (but very important) task of panicking and then the less-important task of opening a thread. Host stuff, which was in the works before I even signed up for this game. I won't discuss it in the future though as then there'll be stuff I have to process as a host and so in theory by even talking about it I would be risking or breaching some sort of integrity.

But w.r.t my mass iso/re-eval of just about everyone I decided to go alphabetical and so that means I'm largely done with Belzy, Creature, DrWilgy and am starting on JJJ now. First one has a bit of a jank tone at times but objectively I don't find any issue with their gameplay. Second I'm holding to a lower level but I found something to ask them about. Third I don't really approve of because of their behavior (or more specifically presence) in the hours prior to EoD and their handling of me at that time. That's what the cliffnotes are.

(8 pm in my time would be almost exactly an hour ago)

I was trying to find a specific "let me google that for you" website where Google does the barrel roll and then pretend that's a back-flip by Google.

But it seems those sites have changed?

Sidenote I've gone through about three ISOs so far. Had to stop a bit already because I totally and absolutely did not forget that I had something to do at 8pm earlier that I just did.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:48 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:17 pm I've been playing (or "interacting" with) some stuff on the Neal.Fun website, as a few days ago it had its ridiculous password creation game go apparently viral which I learned about today. One of the other games it has is the Absurd Trolly Problems, and I got through it with 58 people killed (yay?). The site has some other interesting stuff too that aren't necessarily games.

Aside from that, it seems Rondo is unable to post. Guy has not appeared today at all. In case someone hasn't noticed already.

I'm thinking about doing a re-evaluation / in-depth reads list of (almost) everyone individually because 15 players is feeling smaller than it should be. Something to re-orient my head with and maybe figure something of a world-build (most likely saying X wolves among XYZ or something of the sort, I don't have specific ideas in mind yet).
If that's the case, I retract what I said about Rondo being meh. I'm not sure what to think if they were both removed from the poll and can't post, so they can stay purple.

Come to think of it, he hasn't voted in the poll either.

Could possibly be an extreme case of IRL shenanigans or whatever, as that is quite the combo of mechanics to exist in (I'm presuming combo since I haven't been banned from posting yet have been removed from pool), but on my impression of Rondo and who he is I don't think he would be one to forget about the game for more than 24 hours or whatever.

I've been playing (or "interacting" with) some stuff on the Neal.Fun website, as a few days ago it had its ridiculous password creation game go apparently viral which I learned about today. One of the other games it has is the Absurd Trolly Problems, and I got through it with 58 people killed (yay?). The site has some other interesting stuff too that aren't necessarily games.

Aside from that, it seems Rondo is unable to post. Guy has not appeared today at all. In case someone hasn't noticed already.

I'm thinking about doing a re-evaluation / in-depth reads list of (almost) everyone individually because 15 players is feeling smaller than it should be. Something to re-orient my head with and maybe figure something of a world-build (most likely saying X wolves among XYZ or something of the sort, I don't have specific ideas in mind yet).

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:08 am That Lime Coke post you're claiming has good tone is awkward and wolfy AF. Apparently I misread your post though because for some reason I thought you were saying Rico also had good tone, but you weren't.

Yeah no a big part of the reason I was inquiring about it was the claim that Rico had good tone, while Tutuu had basically nothing going for Lime Coke (whom I thought had actual good tone at times). Rico has dropped off a bit in my evaluation once you pointed out he could be doing IIOA, which could reasonably explain away some of the "pros" I had in mind for Rico's Scotty case.

I don't think Lime's post is wolfy. Its a bit twtbaw I suppose, but really I think its quite upfront and I think wolves don't do that in general. Sometimes as town I too will use the "it is what it is" that lime coke does with

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:14 pm Yeah, you’re right. This is a pretty shallow list. My vote on you isn’t actually a joke vote
It is.

I can't get my mind into this game that much, which is kinda rough.

I'm doing what I can though.

And honestly, I partially read it as towny because it fits my imagination that he's probably unconfident in his reads to some extent. In our champs game about a month ago or so he had heavily TR'ed two wolves (one of them me) and had heavily SR'ed the last wolf but got convinced off of it by people in the game. Heck I suspect he'll have some difficulty with me because of that game.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:08 am I thought 935 and 937 were post numbers, but those are two Tutuu posts (222) that don't seem relevant to what we were discussing.

935
937

With links this time.

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