The Syndicate

Can anyone who's suspicious of tutuu lay out why? Are there reasons that make tutuu likely mafia or is it just PoE? This is from my point of view/perspective: 1. Its MOSTLY PoE, however I have had previous concerns as said here for D3: I also didn't like the sheepy-attitude of Tutuu as of late. It ...

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:07 pm well it was too funny to miss out on that one

dont worry i wont hit the pedal to the metal though. i am town

It was a bit funny tbh, even if you aren't scum.

Though I'm currently inclined to think you are regardless of that.

how did tutuu interact with long con? tutuu's early townread on long con on http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?f=273&t=1958&p=674861#p674861 is notable - i still do think this is a towny moment for tutuu, but it loses a little bit of the town equity that i originally gave it in ...

I'm living in the sloonei tutuu world for now tbh GTH that's what I would name the scum team as too but I have this paranoia that it can't possibly be that easy. From my point of view I didn't think it was easy, I feel like if it is Sloonei + Tutuu then some unfortunate or unpredictable events occu...

Sometimes people just don't want to call the generic suspicions as they are just because it feels like little effort has been placed into scum-hunting, and the level of effort into something can be a significant factor within psychology Tbh if anything this may explain myself and some of my interac...

I wouldn't list SPF as an immediate suspect, but is there any reasoning why SPF can't be scum? Do others think we might be clearing SPF too easily? I get that SPF has had towny thoughts/tone all game but I think that's somewhat fakeable. Perhaps I'm being too dismissive of it but my initial thought...

The POE is small enough that for Sloonei not to be scum would mean that there are two deepwolves. I think that's really hard for mafia to have in general, and I think if they did have two deepwolves they would have enough clout to convince everyone not to vote LC. Therefore there's only one deepwol...

Anyways I got to go off for awhile. I wont be as active as I have been for the past 48 hours or so.

I should be able to pop-in for (perhaps 2-3ish) hours in the next 13 or 14 hours.

Okay. I think Thunal33 and Alison's differences or scum-reads on each other were kinda set-up to turn out this way after having early-game differences on play-style or perception. Oh yeah I forgot to [mention]Alison[/mention] [mention]Thunal33[/mention] See the big post that I quoted here. Use the ...

I tried to make this as easy to understand as possible, but I honestly believe Thunal33 + Alison are TvT'ing.

I can't really put it into better words, but I hope the colors helped.

Okay. I think Thunal33 and Alison's differences or scum-reads on each other were kinda set-up to turn out this way after having early-game differences on play-style or perception. I mean, I think the following quotes feel like a matter of play-style difference or differences in viewing the game (as ...

do any of u know if there's a way to hyperlink posts within my own posts, like u can do on mafiauniverse? it's a lot easier than having to directly quote everything i want to reference I think you might have to do it manually, the URL style like this . The post numbers on each post are a link to th...

how do i iso on your home site? Oh yeah here's the link: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3309984 You can either go to the forum list thing and click on "replies" and then click the post-count number of the associated player or just open up the game and advance search fo...

Can relate, I have school now and I dislike that I can't play quite as strongly as I was able to in the summer. Your scum game feels like you committed to honesty at some level and didn't want to lie (at least at the start which is what I read). You were making a lot of honest statements (talking a...

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:21 pm I don't really have a good game to show my current town meta....a lot of it in the past relied on reads analysis and methodical non-gut play.

Edit by way of post.

Can you link to some of your meta? I don't really have a good game to show my current town meta....a lot of it relied on reads analysis and methodical non-gut play. I've been trying to balance it recently with some gut play since I recently had an anonymous game (which I could link but I wasn't act...

I could see the "if I'm town" bits as being similar to "if it's not green vote me out" style ultimatums in Among Us, where you phrase it as an "if" even though you saw green slaughter someone in front of you and know for a fact they are scum. Okay, that does kinda make...

"Nothing has negatively pinged me yet" seems at odds with your characterization of Thunal as being so strongly town you're willing to townclear her and POE out whoever's left as the scum team. Well perhaps I'm using words that have a different set value or meaning to you than it does to m...

The playstyle difference argument explains why it's not necessarily W/V, but it doesn't explain why you're townclearing Thunal. What's the basis of that? Well, to be fair, I am conf biased a little bit from my early town-read on her. But nothing has negatively pinged me when I've glanced at her pos...

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:52 pm why have you decided im town? where did that come from

I mentioned it before, but you + SPF had a preety convincing mind meld in the middle of D2.

Unless you're both mafia I would really doubt either of you are scum.

Why would you rely on my townread on you so strongly but be willing to completely townclear Thunal despite me scumreading her for much of the game? I've been working on that, looking at the posts. Right now I've been working on some sensible way to communicate why I think its a playstyle difference...

Martin, you are relying primarily on my defense on you in your own. What are you going to say now that my townread on you is waning? Nothing. Your soul read was probably right. It never occured me to think about how much I was analyzing, and I think that's already helping me, even if its not really...

Martin, you are relying primarily on my defense on you in your own. What are you going to say now that my townread on you is waning? Nothing. Your soul read was probably right. It never occured me to think about how much I was analyzing, and I think that's already helping me, even if its not really...

What's stopping me is this: Martin is literally an alt of proto. Like I know I've said this before but the resemblance is actually seriously uncanny at this point. Like the part where he gets paranoid I'm scum pocketing him early, and then halfway through the game suddenly transitions to lock towni...

I wonder. If: SPF + Hally + Thunal we all write off as being 100% confirmed town (not really confirmed but y'know)....would it be possible to ensure a town win? There are 7 towns left and 2 Mafia/Scum/Wolves left We have 2 miseliminations left before elo (eliminate correctly or lose), since 2 towns...

I wonder. If: SPF + Hally + Thunal we all write off as being 100% confirmed town (not really confirmed but y'know)....would it be possible to ensure a town win? There are 7 towns left and 2 Mafia/Scum/Wolves left We have 2 miseliminations left before elo (eliminate correctly or lose), since 2 towns...

Martin, you are relying primarily on my defense on you in your own. What are you going to say now that my townread on you is waning? Nothing. Your soul read was probably right. It never occured me to think about how much I was analyzing, and I think that's already helping me, even if its not really...

I wonder. If: SPF + Hally + Thunal we all write off as being 100% confirmed town (not really confirmed but y'know)....would it be possible to ensure a town win? There are 7 towns left and 2 Mafia/Scum/Wolves left We have 2 miseliminations left before elo (eliminate correctly or lose), since 2 towns...

I wonder. If: SPF + Hally + Thunal we all write off as being 100% confirmed town (not really confirmed but y'know)....would it be possible to ensure a town win? There are 7 towns left and 2 Mafia/Scum/Wolves left We have 2 miseliminations left before elo (eliminate correctly or lose), since 2 towns ...

im saying lc was dismissive of the early heat on sloonei in a way that seems odd if w/w. if lc/sloonei are w/w, lc probably wants to start distancing early when everyone is digging into sloonei. instead he calls sloonei town and shrugs at the pressure on him. only D2 does lc’s posture change to one...

Tbh I don't mind putting up sloonei to a vote from me. I just can't easily comprehend the arguments made against him...I've been having some trouble with that since D1 and so I just assumed it was all town awkwardness. That and from where I come from scum isn't usually eliminated or caught on day 1....

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:21 pm I mean, if the posture is obviously w/w then wouldn't it make sense for that posture to be different if there's a possible D1 bus towards the EoD?

Actually I just don't understand this "posture" thing. Haven't heard or seen it used like this.

i just question why that posture wasn’t present from the beginning if they’re teammates Didn't sloonei catch fire early on for the Nutella interaction? I mean, if the posture is obviously w/w then wouldn't it make sense for that posture to be different if there's a possible D1 bus towards the EoD?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:40 pm How do you mention people?

I'm assuming you're on computer:

Type @Mart and then click the box that pops up and says "MartinGG99".

Alternatively, you can do: [ mention](username)[ /mention]

Without the space in the boxes/code.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:40 pm How do you mention people?

I'm assuming you're on computer:

Type @Mart and then click the box that pops up and says "MartinGG99".

Alternatively, you can do: [mention ](username)[/mention ]

Without the space in the boxes/code.

That is something I've been planning to get into, as I said in the QT. If I presume Alison is town then I don't feel comfortable glancing at yours and Alison's conflict as just "TvT" without a closer look. But to answer your question, I may give Alison a leap of faith if I believe her arg...

But Alison already isn't trustworthy from my POV since she's been wrong in suspecting me, and you felt the same way that she was wrong in that suspicion. Do you think only Alison's read on you is trustworthy or do you think her reads in general are trustworthy? That is something I've been planning ...

yeah, like idk, it really sounds like he knows he won’t flip town and is trying to setup alison to take the fall after he flips scum because he knows she’s wrong Well if my argument make you hold off on scum-reading Alison for another day only to see me flip green then HOPEFULLY you can change your...

it's not just the "if" it's that the whole argument doenst make sense and feels like tmi that he won't flip town and alison is wrong. like he contradicted himself in a weird way I have the feeling ("feeling" here not implying fact; I haven't counted) that most people who scum-re...

It won't surprise me if someone scumreads me for my post above -_-

martin, you have avoided giving a read on me the entire game. you keep pushing it off and saying you still need to iso me and look into it it’s D3 now. i just helped eliminate mafia. when can i expect you to have a read on my alignment? Never tbh. I haven't really looked into SPF either since post ...

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:32 pm I wouldn't doubt it unless I imagined a Spf + Hally team.

Which I'm not interested in looking into right now, or at least I don't think there's much reason to.

Maybe someone else will do that for me. I don't have all the time in the world.

If she's mafia then how she reacts to me may be different if I treat her if she's town. I mean if she's town, she may react X way to me appealing to her as if she's town. If she's Mafia, she may react Y way to me appealing to her as if she's town. I don't know what to look for but it might be somet...

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:27 pm "Hey you remember that one orange box that JJJ had? Maybe its true because obviously having ONLY 1 ORANGE BOX TOTALLY DOESN'T DOUBT THE ACCURACY OF SAID BLIND INTERACTIONS SHEET"

*that and LC flipped mafia

If she's mafia then how she reacts to me may be different if I treat her if she's town. I mean if she's town, she may react X way to me appealing to her as if she's town. If she's Mafia, she may react Y way to me appealing to her as if she's town. I don't know what to look for but it might be somet...

If she's mafia then how she reacts to me may be different if I treat her if she's town. I mean if she's town, she may react X way to me appealing to her as if she's town. If she's Mafia, she may react Y way to me appealing to her as if she's town. I don't know what to look for but it might be somet...

fwiw the biggest issue im taking with martin's appeal right now is that he's appealing to hally like he knows that hally is town. scum sometimes have light perspective slips like that when theyre trying to appeal I'm appealing regardless if she's town or mafia. If she's mafia then how she reacts to...

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:17 pm why do you keep saying IF you’re town, IF i’m wrong, etc? what does IF mean? am i wrong or not?

Because its obvious I have to convince people who haven't gotten a "Martin is town" PM from dyslexicon.

Hence the "IF" is mandatory.

Why the hell would it be otherwise?

the post didn't even make sense, he's saying to trust alison if he flips town because they can't be wolf partners? doesn't that mean we should trust alison more if he flips wolf? like idgi it feels almost like a slip it's so wolfy hahahaha Alison has argued that I'm town. If shes wrong on that read...

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:14 pm he’s probably appealing to me that way because he knows alison’s case comes from a villager

Oh, so she's villager but not trustworthy enough for you?

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