The Syndicate

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:41 pm Honestly I'd vote ted if they were viable I mean they've been extremely wolfy today

I agree tbh but the voice in my head thinks these are not w/w:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:23 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:06 am i’m pinged by ran saying 4 people were “abysmal” cuz it actually feels like nobody is being actively wolfy to me, but maybe im just hard disconnected from the game /shrug
Yeah I’m still kinda pondering that

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:34 am why are you so bent on abi being wolf though?

i was thinking it’s possible it’s gira / ran / x, where x is one of my lazy voters

No I'm not claiming anything. I'm staring at the wagons and wondering whose AtE i'm falling for.

[VOTE: dizzymade] aubergine

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:32 pm i'm going to just assume at least some of the townreads on tsp are tmi on his alignment and take him as town because usually when someone is getting defended and i don't really see it that's what's going on. i just don't know who is doing it as of right now

this post is why I've believed Gira is town. seems incongruent with the rest of earlygame where gira/tsp pretty consistently attacked one another.

We've been talking about Ted, Ted/TSP have very few interactions but Jack thinks they look unpaired. leetic stonks also up.

day end is in 2 hours.

Awake due to noise, big headache, conferring with Hee Homeboys industries.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

I'm gonna try and get some sleep. Should be back around a couple hours before eod. Small chance I miss it because there is some irl stuff goin on.

Abi wagon is bad. Other than that... I'mma sleep on it.

Hm. Thanks.

Made wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:45 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:16 pm Everyone should maintain an appropriate work/life balance. Disco balls do not encourage this. ~ not Bereft
is it general consensus that bereft was a PR/acted on by a PR?

leetic claims to have tracked them nowhere n1. other than that no, they've said a lot of weird soft claimy stuff but nothing concrete.

yeah bereft is schweppes apparently.

Made wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:03 am sure! their world view aligns mostly with mine seemingly in thread, but that could change in iso. you got a tldr/thesis statement i should keep in mind while reading?

I have not really been able to understand their mindset or why or what they're doing. TSP directed people off them d1. Mac said he saw effort towards solving but I've never been able to glean much other than "dizzy good, ted bad," the reasons are murky. I tried to translate their metaphor stuff a couple of times and they got upset at me for doing so which is... I don't understand. Just seems to have information they should not have.

What's up Made. Any questions for me/can I get you to take a look through Bereft?

I miss Wind. Schedule shift is making things rough here but there isn't much I can do about it given the holiday week.

anyone can case leetic at any time because leetic is punishing bird

Agree
If posts are signed and everyone just metas it anyway what's even the point

hydra games suck

no offense to my hee headmate

The personal solving I am most proud of in recent memory would be... the FoL catgirls game where I was a spectator, but spec chat could vote on reads to be shared daily and there was a medium who could talk to us more directly

I figured out that the medium was a wolf because they were not solving at all, and then tried to communicate this by having them relay a message to Hyena who had played in a syndicate game that had had a similar role and tell them "the situation is the same as on day something of this game, look it up and you will see what I mean and why I can't help you further"

it was amazing

except hyena didn't look up the game and it ended up not having an effect. but it was still a cool thing.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:38 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:36 am oh downward trend i see
what's this about lying for reactions though?
I dont have a +1 vote. Only person to comment on it was leetic afaik

Bruh

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:37 am Can I ask who definitively started the push on Robyn? Like, people ended on her but who do people think started it?

Mac pretty clearly

oh downward trend i see
what's this about lying for reactions though?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:33 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:11 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:09 am anyway can someone cliffs me?
it's from my pov and raw but sure if this is a thing you want.

Spoiler: show
---- day 3
wind dead, roleblocker
#3233 leetic roleblocked, tried to track ted
#3245 pyxxy votes me and wants to dome
#3284 gira believes bereft slipped vt
#3328 leetic says rondo looks good from eod duh
#3334 leetic points out tsp was PR yeah
#3348 gira says i am not responsible for tsp going over??
#3373 porscha says ??????????????????? about pyxxy outing leetic's soft. or maybe leetic asking why out the soft.
#3386 porscha has little faith tutuu flips wolf
#3425 ted comes in, says he was a 2x watcher that can't detect kills, was roleblocked again last night, attempted to watch wind... oh then says was not roleblocked last night. tried targeting mac n1.
#3444 ted no further explaination for the one thread post. mmrrr.
#3450 abi thinks tsp wagon was pure
#3453 porscha thinks pyxxy attempt to dome me is bad/twtbw
#3471 abi thinks leetic pushing "wolf in dizzy/abi if pyxxy town" and pyxxy's math class response is yucky
#3503 abi calls ted's "i woulda bussed" a perspective slip?
abi proposes me/rondo/her masonry, i'm already there...
pyxxy calls out ted/dizzy team potential
#3545 made entry reads: pyxxy/leetic/ran town, abi/bereft not sure, ted/gira mafia, rondo not sure town if vote good
#3556 gira thinks tsp/abi maybe w/w.... votes abi??
#3568 made puts gira to null abigail to scum, says ted>pyx>dizzy feels like a scum roadmap
#3579ish ted thinks pyxxy's progression stinks, leetic town, does not think tsp/abi w/w. says ran has a goldmine of posts that look bad from tsp's flip??
#3660 bereft thinks gira gets cred from flip
#3667 abi townreads gira/made, though if either is a wolf it's made
#3669 pyxxy vca.
#3690 rondo wanted a tie at eod
#3734 pyxxy says tsp was guaranteed dead after i moved. thinks leetics reality distortion field too strong to be wolf.
#3747 pyxxy throws out a robyn quote extravaganza, bad look for bereft good look for me/leetic/gira
#3779 bereft says g2h pyxxy v
#3784 leetic votes made, made suspects leetic
#3786 rondo vote snapshot
#3794 rondo leaning voting dizzy because of dizzy's abi push?
Delta removed from the game
Gira has a phantom vote
#3808 leetic making full game lists
#3831 made: town because reads gira/leetic, town via dizzy ted/bereft, town by votes me/rondo, poe abi pyxxy
#3837 leetic says made is "c"
#3852 leetic reads: gira/rondo, bereft/ran, ted, abbi, dizzy/pyxxy
#3855 made votes pyxxy
#3915 abi says pyxxy is john madden
#3939 abi self votes to bait a vote out of leetic then unvotes...
#3948 leetic says abi will have to self pres at eod
#3967 rondo has a phantom vote
#4035 abi reads: town lock me, rondo, dizzymade ?! gira close to town core, leetic/ted PRs.
#4038 pyxxy crossposts voting bereft with me
#4060 pyxxy says ted scum on meta? or is sussing pyx for no reason
#4072 pyxxy calls "solving" the smoke monster

holy fucking notes batman

#3690 rondo wanted a tie at eod - No I just wanted to present the idea that I wanted a tie at the end of the day.

#3967 rondo has a phantom vote - Oh yeah lol, I was all "What the fuck?! When did I get a phantom vote?!" Then I remembered I lied about it for reactions and got none

... what

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:27 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:07 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:55 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:54 am @RondoDimBuckle
Would like to talk to you if you have some time.
well, as you can see I am here but currently devoting what little brain I have left to what I promised WWA
You have a unique position in the game right now so I kind of want your... everything. Full reads list with reasons would be ideal. But especially your thoughts on:

- Abi
- Pyxxy
- Bereft
- Who was trying to kill you, what were their reasons in your eyes and where have they gone?
fuck it, this iso is killing my brain.

Abi I refuse to elaborate on I think I have made my position clear
Pyxxy I am leaning one of him and dizzy scum.
Bereft I have seen gimmick posting into low posting into almost no posting which is such a townward trend after TSP's death I cant help but now want to vote him. Does anyone know anything about his meta? Would a wolf kill D2 as wolf murder his wim as wolf?

The only people trying to kill me were Gira / Tedxter / Leetic who have all promptly just kinda... fucked off.

I have transitioned to the point of the game where I cant be scummy to get reactions (as evidenced eod yesterday, not a single person tried to push me for being so chaotic with the wagons) so now I actually have to engage brain and work for it. I am still of the opinion that one of the people pushing me was a wolf but leetic has claimed, ted has claimed so I have been keeping an eye on Gira which I didnt really want to say out loud

Thank you <3
Why do you think Bereft's lack of posting is a townward trend though?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:11 am everyone link me to the best solving you've ever seen and/or done

everyone besides rondo, whose KotH game I guess I should go read

I'm entirely serious

good night

I have way too much history to pick a best of all time and the top candidates are things that aren't easily linkable because they're from years or decades ago or not in forum form but

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... vitational

Silverkeith throughout the game, Arete on the final day, absolutely exquisite. Best towning in recent memory. I was okay too, and Robyn and Wisdom, though the hells catch was unusual for me and I was only somewhat coming around on Alison before death, but still feel like I set the earlygame up well to the point where we chopped 3 straight slankers and then were still able to come back for the win.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:09 am anyway can someone cliffs me?

it's from my pov and raw but sure if this is a thing you want.

Spoiler: show

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:55 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:54 am @RondoDimBuckle
Would like to talk to you if you have some time.
well, as you can see I am here but currently devoting what little brain I have left to what I promised WWA

You have a unique position in the game right now so I kind of want your... everything. Full reads list with reasons would be ideal. But especially your thoughts on:

- Abi
- Pyxxy
- Bereft
- Who was trying to kill you, what were their reasons in your eyes and where have they gone?

@RondoDimBuckle
Would like to talk to you if you have some time.

Also the reeval on me is like
if pyxxy was a wolf here he would push dizzymade and he's not doing that. this is a complicated tangle of thought lmk if you want a big unwind.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:40 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:35 am Ok so now I am home. What the fuck is happening with these polls? Does anyone actually have a case or is everyone just flinging shit?
Spoiler: show
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robyn's read on schweppes + general absence today + GTHV read on me felt shallow + I've spent like 6 hours today staring at VCA and re-reading ISOs and the more the day passes the more it's clear who's not having the conversations that push the thread forward and who is

idk ran's reasons

GET OUT OF MY HEAD THERE'S ALREADY SOMEONE HERE

Bereft has done nothing today except say "g2h pyxxy town" while everyone's talking about pyxxy and dizzymade (and a side order of ted and a small fries of me) and quietly back Gira's imo terrible takes. Pretty much has done nothing all game. My hee homeboy agrees from what he's read.

And the thing is... I am coming to agree g2h pyxxy town. I still don't understand the mindset at sod, but he's playing the game and nobody really seems to be trying to save him or bus him. I see a LOT of people pushing "must be one in pyxxy/dizzymade" and I really am not sure that is true, in my eyes "one in dizzymade/bereft" is the play. And more and more I'm leaning towards the bereft side of that.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:28 am here, talk about this instead, literally anything else besides you two sniping at each other, it's miserable

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

what the unholy

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:27 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:23 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:22 am Still want my reads ran?
Yes please
Town Lock (I'm usually only wrong on 1 or 0 tbh)

RondoDubzBuckle
Ranmilia
DyslexiMade

Close to Town Core but not

Gira

Claimed PR

Leetic
Ted

So I'd like you to talk about this as well, in that case.

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

to be fair the poll vote regs are broken by the setup including invisible phantom votes anyway

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:22 am Still want my reads ran?

Yes please

leetic is punishing bird

that is all

Abi/anyone else have y'all played Lobotomy Corporation/Library of Ruina?

FTR I've read a few Abi games but I'm not confident in meta reading her. My confidence in her here comes from TSP interactions, general attitude and protown gameplay.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:29 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:01 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:59 am [VOTE: Abbi] aubergine

This is a protest to the oppressive no self voting regime.

I'll move it at EoD probably
yo please don't do stuff like this
Mmm y tho

It's against the rules. And against wincon. And against our newly founded masonic traditions. And also would kill confirmed town Porscha.
[ate rant redacted]

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:59 am [VOTE: Abbi] aubergine

This is a protest to the oppressive no self voting regime.

I'll move it at EoD probably

yo please don't do stuff like this

I am a girl and I'm sipping a cup
sippy sippy cup
sippy sippy cup

where you at gamewise though

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:28 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:26 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:25 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:24 am
Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:23 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:18 am
Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:48 am
probably just going to always vote her out this game now lol
this post garnered this reaction from you? why?
i'm feeling iritiable and that manner of defense rubs me the wrong way
but that's like

abi 101
As both alignments, to be fair
oh, when did you play a game with scum abi? link pls :3
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/deceiv ... /6232/4193

Nearly got her D1 too, if only town wasn't stupid enough to lynch the vig. My username is Oricorio on the site and I was in the "OriceliSoworio" hydra while Abby was in "Miku"

! you're Oricorio. didn't know that.

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:26 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:18 pm In my neighborhood I am explicitly told that I am not informed of his alignment and I’m given the post info etc
Lol is that actually a thing.

This is indeed a thing

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:33 am
Made wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:30 am okay let’s run it back

town because reads:
Gira
leetic

town by dizzy inheritance:
ted
Bereft

town by vote record:
ran
rondo

poe:
abi
pyxxy

i feel pretty good about that.

@tedxtr why did you vote pyxxy yesterday?
Why are you still holding onto Dizzy's reads when they basically admitted they weren't paying attention? It feels like an excuse to not read those slots. And what's with "town by voting record", RDB I understand but what about Ranmilia's voting record precludes them from being a wolf?

Everything. In my eyes this is an easy game to read me in, if I'm a wolf with TSP I have no reason to ever even slightly endanger him. People sure seem eager to try and strip credit from me though. Maybe because timezones and people glossing over stuff, maybe because I play with intent and push for votes, and that always makes people nervous and prone to "omg everything ran does could be powerwolfing" takes. If folks have concerns lmk and we can talk through it.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:46 am Anyway, anyone disagree with DizzyMade/pyxxy/Abby being the three most pertinent people to flip?

Abi even being in contention here is wild to me. The TSP interactions gira was quoting and thinks looks bad is the exact stuff I think looks very good for her. My three would be pyxxy/dizzymade/bereft.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:07 am I'm here but the thread doesn't need me to keep posting rn

Vote someone por favor. Who do be wolves if not you?

I do not have a phantom vote. Which is probably obvious because I have a jack in my head but just for the record.

test...? where'd everybody go?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:16 pm Alexy
Bereft
Cape90
DarlingMonroe
Delta
DrWilgy
Gira
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
leetic
Lime Coke
Long Con
MacDougall
Made
nutella
Porscha
potentialsheltervet
Princess Abigail
pyxxy
Ranmilia
robyn
RondoDimBuckle
Scotty
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
tutuu
WindwardAway

The current state of play

DarlingMonroe's name should be green. For Reasons.
The other thread apparently had 14 players. Dunno illario's exact role.
Delta was also bottom tier scummy in the eyes of the town, along with tutuu; I therefore assume Delta to have been a scum or 3p flip.

@Bereft Who wolves?

gn pyxxy. thanks for thoughts.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:40 am the wolves have no reason to kill me this game

yeah this.

I... have thoughts on this but am not sure it's protown to share them. I think we have different definitions of self resolving though.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:19 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:16 am Dizzy/ted is... kind of gross with d1. When TSP makes his "get off bereft" post, bereft is obviously top wagon but dizzy/ted are the two counterwagons, with bereft voting ted, ted voting dizzy and dizzy voting robyn.

... not that those are where TSP is directing wagons though, looks like he was directing mainly towards robyn. but still... mm.
and ted theoretically self-resolves, before or after leetic, depending on if we can psych out the scum team about which we suspect and which we believe*

*this is irrelevant if they're actually both PRs and ftr I believe leetic

Why does ted self resolve now?

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