Yeah I think Wilgy was the clear Seanzie was talking about. I don't think Sean got a mechanical redcheck on Kate, he claimed to Kate he would have died if she wasn't a sin to get her to reveal info.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:14 pmI am fairly sure that the simple act of BTSCing you clears you because I think that he said that he got a mechanical redcheck on Kate immediately and he didn't out a red on you and in fact implied he had "a clear" so I am taking you as a clear.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:02 pmConsidering Seanzie had posted that I was removed from the PoE at the exact same time they were shot, this doesn't make sense.Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:06 pm @S~V~S yah I do. falcon, Epi and Jack. Tinfoil- Thunal.
New tinfoil is that Wigly had BTSC with Seanzie was going to outed and killed him in the middle of it. Except that Seanzie said he had outed 2 (Kate/Dennis) and cleared 1 (was it Wigly or was he saying that to get reactions idk bc he never outright said who he had cleared)
Also in one of my previous posts to you you said "I don't really see any questions except for inre: Dennis" but I was just responding to you and giving you my thoughts no questions you are correct.
If my strategy as W was to convince Seanzie I was town and to pull myself out of PoE, I would've waited to ensure I was pulled out before shooting him. There's no way that happened as the death and Seanzie's post were simultaneous.
So if my claim is false
1. Why did I wait to shoot him?
2. Was it luck that I was pulled from PoE upon doing so?
Please give us all your Seanzie info.
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What's BSG?S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:05 pmNo worries, suspect away if you do. It was a good observation, which is why I addressed it. And right now it's the little things, becasue assuming Doe doesn't know who the sins are in advance (and it could go either way, but the framework I'm using for theorizing is BSG), Doe may have also changed his suspicions suddenly. So picking apart peoples posts is a good look, and a smart move.Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:59 pm this is @S~V~S
Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:58 pmDo not be surprised. You are a hell of a player while I *do* believe you are town I cannot be 100% bc you are not fingersplints the only one I am ever sure of but even she can fool me like she did in a recent game when she was bad.Spoiler: show
So no you are not in my POE nor in my tinfoils. That's bc I *think* you are indeed town. Sorry I was reading ISO's and tend to touch on stuff as I do it. I do agree that it was odd that Thunal nor dubz said nothing about it.
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me too!!!!
bad vote pyxxy
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I think that is unpairing. I did miss that SVS post, but I do think pyxxy and SVS are unpaired for a small different reason. From my notes which I posted earlier today:Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:58 pmDo not be surprised. You are a hell of a player while I *do* believe you are town I cannot be 100% bc you are not fingersplints the only one I am ever sure of but even she can fool me like she did in a recent game when she was bad.Spoiler: show
So no you are not in my POE nor in my tinfoils. That's bc I *think* you are indeed town. Sorry I was reading ISO's and tend to touch on stuff as I do it. I do agree that it was odd that Thunal nor dubz said nothing about it.
I’m inclined to think him trusting Kate on SVS was genuine. I feel like if he were scum with SVS this post would make a bigger deal of either him trusting SVS or him not trusting SVS.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 am
any chance you've got a theme/setup/movie-plot-related reason to think this
I watched the first episode of Twin Peaks instead of Se7en without knowing that ep 1 was basically as long as a movie
back on the topic at hand
from what Seanzie said it didn't seem like Kate had a way to win with town
hmmmmmm okay so grain of salt like Seanzie said, but iirc Seanzie said he was posing as a sin? so (heavy fan theories here -->) maybe Seanzie did something like say that he could win alone or with scum, and then Kate went "oh yeah samesies Seanzies"
this might be worth asking Seanzie to speak further on, I don't think it would reveal much and it might help confirm how much to trust point #1
re: #2, after being in a game with Kate and SVS, can confirm they can accurate snipe each other, so if I believe #1 then I'm inclined to believe #2
idk about #3/dont wanna hear about #4 atm
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Yep, which I found out because you made me google it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:08 pm Wait does queef mean something else in America? In Australia it just means like cooking or baking. Like the other day I queefed up a cake.
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He suddenly took me out of his PoE despite us not having a chat which makes me wonder if he used an action on me.Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:11 pm Seanzie's last post:
In the thread he pushed Thunal, falcon, Mac, Jack, Nook, Epi, Wigly.
but he posted this earlier than his last reads list:
The part about Wigly kinda confirms what Wigly has told us.Seanzie wrote:Nook - his recent posting re: Kate and Dennis being outed reminds me more of scum!nook pretending to be disinterested rather than town!Nook actually being disinterested.
Falcon - I read his D1 ISO and was actually thinking about targeting him, but since I expressed sus of him D1 and voted for him, I thought it would be harder to run the gambit I did with him. His D1 ISO did not have the characteristic game-related prods that I associate with town Falcon. I don't remember anything from him D2, which also isn't great.
Wilgy - I don't know. They're behind the scenes in my mind today even more so than usual.
Jack - Spending a whole lot more time messing around rather than scum hunting. I don't think I saw a single solving post at all today.
Thun - I had a bad feeling about her yesterday, but take that with a grain of salt since I always have a bad feeling about her. I also thought about targeting her overnight, but decided against it since I often suspect her regardless of her alignment, especially early game (so y'all should figure her out... or I will eventually).
I like his takes if I am honest. I know he suspected me in his last list but Idc I still like his list.
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My instinct is to believe this, since if it were false someone could CC it. Did you get any info from him worth sharing?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:38 pm Hoenstly, if it helps to just clear me and remove me from PoE:
I was BTSC with Seanzie before they were killed. Seanzie was helping me get into the game while at the same time I shared all my info with them.
Between BTSC Seanzie's PoE went from including me here:To not after sharing data:Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:05 pmIf I had to order the list it would probably be
Nook
Falcon
Wilgy
Jack
Thun
In order of most likely baddie to least likely baddie.I share this as I don't think anyone would counter claim me on being in BTSC with Seanzie and Seanzie wouldn't remove me from the PoE without good reason. If less energy is wasted assessing me, I'd say this is a net positive for the town.
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I said I didn't find anything that points to a specific John Doe. I actually do have a few guesses of who it wouldn't be if pyxxy knew John Doe's identity d2. My initial thoughts when I read his ISO were that SVS and Nanook both were less likely to be John Doe if he knew John's identity. I also thought pyxxy had w/w equity with Rondo initially but now I kind of feel like it's anti w/w. pyxxy talked about Rondo for a few posts d1 but just said "hi Rondo" and otherwise didn't talk about him d2. It feels *too* different from d1 to be w/w and I think pyxxy might have some need to interact with Rondo if they were. After Sean died suspecting Nanook I put Nanook in my PoE and think he could be John Doe since the interaction between pyxxy and Nanook isn't that unpairing and it's also plausible pyxxy didn't know John Doe's identity.Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:53 pmI like your tinfoil inre: Nook. I need to read Seanzie tbh.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:24 pm Roxy i don't care about self meta, i explained my suspicion on Nanook in that post
Also if you don't solve the low posters and you kill them all at one moment you don't have enough mischops if you're wrong about them.
I prefer to give time to people who warm up later in a game.
Wilgy is one of them. Matahari seems focused on solving. Do you think i am pocketed by them?
What do you think about my tinfoils?
@Roxy
Tinfoil inre: Mac. I disagree what does it serve him to do this? If he is wrong on a town then maybe but right now he helped hand us two sins. He was the first to bring up Kate/Dennis *then* Seanzie confirmed it all. I get you believe he gets to end game that way if he is JD but coming out as a Town Tracker with the info on sins would only hurt JD -not- help him. Besides someone could have said hey wait a minute that's my ability and no one has counter claimed.
Tinfoil inre: Thunal - yeah I have it too which I am sure you have read. I am trying to look past and see what she will come up with but so far it is just little things I continue to question for my own ease of mind. Like her saying that she had read pyx and didn't see anything there yet I found the Nook stuff. Or saying we are doing well - we aren't.
Your read of low posters: well I am a champion of low posters as I am usually one myself but this game is so intriguing I cannot stay away like other games.
So for Wigly I see he claimed to get the last btsc with Seanzie before he died no one counter claimed but I still have misgivings where he is concerned.
Mata - I need way more from her she is dragging her feet this game I am getting anxious where she is concerned. She has zero reads? Really having a hard time holding onto a town read for her.
falcon: I have no idea why you think he is normal this game - he isn't. I can read falcon fairly well and I really think he is a sin if not JD.
dubz: well I do not know what to say I keep waiting but so far I have seen nothing that makes me go "oh right that is town". I have not played with them though I did host them (I think) fingersplints has made me cohost way too many Mountainous games lately.
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I don't know what the post restriction actually was. I got a message start of d2 that said "it would be wise to not talk much today".Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:40 pmI would like to know exactly the who/what/where/when/how of this "restriction" please.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:26 amBtw I didn't know what the post restriction was but thought it was plausible I would die if I posted too much so I got in the habit of condensing my posts into walls. I said pretty much everything I wanted to say yesterday. I don't even think Tutuu died for the post restriction, I think she died for the note she got that she said she was going to die.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:47 amI have a tinfoil if tutuu was killed by this methodRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:33 amI mean its the only thing that makes sense and with that in mind Mac is probably dead because he has been forced to be unable to vote for Seanzie
Thunal came into the day with a restriction as well and said she don't want to die if she posts much.
I have no idea how many posts she had that day, but I doubt they're many.
It's like she knew about the death sentence who came for posting over a number of posts and thought the action against her was similar with the action against tutuu.
I disliked the optimistic tone when she said we are in a good spot or something
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I didn't get a gift, I just got a note warning me to not talk much d2.Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:35 pmbut you got a note/gift? Didn't you say you got a warning as well?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:02 amTbf Tutuu also claimed she got a warning that she was going to die so that could be what killed her. I still wouldn't open the gift.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:04 am Tutuu died 38 minutes after the day ended. That's not an end of day resolution that's a during night resolution.
I received my gift 17 minutes after day ended.
I think that Tutuu blew up cuz she opened a gift.
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That pyxxy post is interesting and it does make me wonder if he gave away too much info with it. If this is true then John Doe would have a lot more info than others.Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:34 pmtbf: The last day they did make a point of throwing Nook in their poe at 3:37 and then taking right out of the poe at 3:50.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:58 amYeah, I felt good with a mafia flip since I love interaction analysis and looking at spew but it's not as straightforward as I wanted it to be. I'm less confident pyxxy actually knew John Doe and if he did there's nothing I found that points to a specific John Doe. I feel a bit burnt out now.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:47 amTbf, we essentially outted two wolfs in the same day but the wolves don’t have tmi. It’s hard to wim at forgone conclusions.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:45 am Tbh I am feeling no town wim. Completely forgot about this game too lol.
They were very chummy with Kate in the thread.
then there was this:
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:30 amI think doom could probably do things that we'll never know about*.
*Unless we chop a virtue**/a virtue info dumps which would be inadvisable at this point. Not sure if that might even count as role claiming.
**oh actually also if we chop Sloth, since it's the opposite of Diligence, maybe that role explanation would at least be a clue towards what Doom could do. really not sure it super matters though
I quoted this post because I wondered if (conjectures follow -->) Dubz is the lone scum but scum gets to know who the sins are and maybe can recruit them or something idk
but then Dubz didn't really interact with Dennis is a substantive/pockety way so, eh
Throwing shit out about Dubz which were probs about themselves.
Trying to pocket the shit out of Zenon and it never worked, they ended up saying she was probs a sin bc of the way she treated them.
Note SVS made a reads list with several left off, Pyx was one the ones left off of it. With Thunal and dubz saying she should have a read on them but did not.
I went back into D 1 as well with a couple but with this look I see maybe Nook? I have zero read here and he is not helpful to the town at all. SVS? (I hope not tbh) I do not feel she is bad but I cannot read her like ever.
It very well could be Nook especially with the Sean kill. I don't think it's SVS because Sean said he thought Kate genuinely read SVS as 90% town and she seemed towny on content. I spectated GoC while she was wolfing and she felt pretty different there.
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Mac outed the track before Sean outed his BTSC stuff.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:42 pmThe best question itgDubz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:13 pmI'd be lying if I said I didn't find this post intriguingMatahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:32 pm I have questions. Bear in mind, that I’m an ancient and come from the school of looking for evidence, as solving, rather than just throwing out suspicions willynilly and be accepted as town because of that.
@Epignosis you suggested the first night kill may have been redirection. I’m not sure how you arrived at that, or if it was just a suggestion, like a possibility in a role madness game. Can you clear that up?
@MacDougall I don’t know where to start. I tend to believe you are JD. After outing yourself, it’s logical that JD would want you gone, but you weren’t nk’d. When Seanzie said he was going to check you, you were trying very hard to change his mind. Then Seanzie dies.
Maybe you’re being framed idk. John Doe is supposed to gain mafia partners, but maybe John Doe is supposed to kill the sins, just like in the movie. He’s a lone serial killer who believes he is smarter than everyone else, so I could see that happening. When you said that you tracked Kate, maybe you ‘stalked’ Kate. In other words, maybe you’re just claiming to be a town tracker, but you’re an SK who stalks on odd nights. Idk. Or maybe JD is not supposed to kill the sins, and when you said you tracked Kate to Dennis, you didn’t think about someone else popping up with more info, like Seanzie did, so you had to sacrifice a potential partner.
Or maybe I just don’t trust players who lead the thread, thinking of Golden in the anniversary game here as a great example. I’m trying to be rid of preconceived inclinations, and trying to balance circumstantial evidence with a lot of maybes. It’s overwhelming in role madness games to try and feel sure of anything. But for now, I can’t help feeling you’re the big bad.
@pretty much anyone, what was the sequence of events with the Kate/Dennis outting? Did Mac bring up the tracking before or after Sean outted Kate?
@Thunal33 do you know the answer?
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If Mac were John Doe, would he even know Kate and Dennis were bad? I'm not sure if he would. Even if he did there are better ways to survive than throwing two teammates under the bus.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:39 pmHis claim.
Mac is competent scum, there wasn't a real need to expose Kate and Dennis in one move, he could do something else for town credit.
Tinfoil comes from the fact he saved himself with that move, and that means survivalism.
In a vacuum that's NAI, a good player have to be alive to win as either alignament, but in this game if he is John Doe if he dies it's a blatant loss.
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He is cute!Dubz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:56 amHe's definitely chaos
Spoiler: show
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The problem is we don't even know if John Doe is uninformed. He could be able to genuinely solve for the sins who aren't mafia aligned.Dubz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:14 pm Michelle's push back at Mac early d2 reads extremely towny to me so there's that.
I suspect I'm going to end up with too many town reads because of how easy it would be for uninformed purple dudes to slip into town mindset. But maybe that'll help me find John Doe? Idk.
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I had a tinfoil theory that Nanook thought Sean redchecked him instead of clearing someone and that's why he died. I also wonder if Sean even had a clear at all or if he was just reaction testing.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:36 amNanook is tunneling me as town when I low post because he is convinced I can't high post as scum so there's no other explanation for me to low postThunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:28 amCan you explain on Nanook? It's pretty hard for me to read him partly because I think his reaction posts at EoD2 were exaggerated regardless of his alignment.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am This is for myself, a kind of reads list, but in the poll order
Dennis - outed scum
DrWilgy - low impact, maybe a sin, if not please play @DrWilgy
Dubz - busy IRL, relaxed tone, idk
Epignosis - i liked the analysis of the setup but that's not really AI.
falcon45ca - good tone, low impact, in the upper part of the null
jackofhearts2005 - time will tell, maybe town, not on the chopping block but he should show his towny soul if that’s his alignment
Macdougall - tinfoilable unfortunately. Not today.
Matahari - not very towny, not really scummy. I didn't notice agenda, so I will put her also above null.
Michelle -
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - suspicious
RondoDimBuckle - self confidemt, making a reactionary play, RTs, meh. Idk, hopefully town
Roxy - towny
S~V~S - looked like she is solving but i don't get the Poe except Nook, please explain @S~V~S
Thunal33 - my top town previous days, gives me paranoia for her fear of dying yday, but still town.
I didn't notice a read on me in this game. We were itt in the same time, but he didn't try to talk to me.
That's very weak per se, but I started to add micro elements to it, like the post when he told Mac he has to die because he tunneled/ was wrong on Porscha. In the best case Mac should be voted as wolf/sin not because he was wrong. There are more for sure but I have just this one in memory.
Also it's the fact Sean just started to say he suspects Nook when he died. That's wifom, but we should talk about it
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Can you explain on Nanook? It's pretty hard for me to read him partly because I think his reaction posts at EoD2 were exaggerated regardless of his alignment.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am This is for myself, a kind of reads list, but in the poll order
Dennis - outed scum
DrWilgy - low impact, maybe a sin, if not please play @DrWilgy
Dubz - busy IRL, relaxed tone, idk
Epignosis - i liked the analysis of the setup but that's not really AI.
falcon45ca - good tone, low impact, in the upper part of the null
jackofhearts2005 - time will tell, maybe town, not on the chopping block but he should show his towny soul if that’s his alignment
Macdougall - tinfoilable unfortunately. Not today.
Matahari - not very towny, not really scummy. I didn't notice agenda, so I will put her also above null.
Michelle -
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - suspicious
RondoDimBuckle - self confidemt, making a reactionary play, RTs, meh. Idk, hopefully town
Roxy - towny
S~V~S - looked like she is solving but i don't get the Poe except Nook, please explain @S~V~S
Thunal33 - my top town previous days, gives me paranoia for her fear of dying yday, but still town.
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Btw I didn't know what the post restriction was but thought it was plausible I would die if I posted too much so I got in the habit of condensing my posts into walls. I said pretty much everything I wanted to say yesterday. I don't even think Tutuu died for the post restriction, I think she died for the note she got that she said she was going to die.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:47 amI have a tinfoil if tutuu was killed by this methodRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:33 amI mean its the only thing that makes sense and with that in mind Mac is probably dead because he has been forced to be unable to vote for Seanzie
Thunal came into the day with a restriction as well and said she don't want to die if she posts much.
I have no idea how many posts she had that day, but I doubt they're many.
It's like she knew about the death sentence who came for posting over a number of posts and thought the action against her was similar with the action against tutuu.
I disliked the optimistic tone when she said we are in a good spot or something
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Kate said Dennis was specifically greed though, and so far Seanzie's claims from the BTSC have been accurate. Also If Dennis were the actual John Doe then I don't really think he gives up this easily? He could very easily have been roleblocked or killed at night because he outed.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:58 am No townie claiming the Pyxxy kill makes it even more likely methinks.
Maybe Dennis would just be dying anyway if we didn't flip him. Theorycraft time.
Pyxxy was John Doe. Dennis was Pride.
Pyxxy chose to use the pride role on n1, and chose to roleswap with Dennis. Roleswapping causes you to die one night later.
Dennis gets outed on day 2. He's fine with it cuz he can just roleswap his way out on night 2. So at no point does he give a shit. Kate knows this also because they had BTSC hence why she specifically ate the chop on purpose. So Dennis could get to night and swap out.
If the above were true, Dennis would die tonight and we're completely wasting a chop.
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Wait what if Dennis is greed and the gift giver and his gifts do bad stuff but he's hoping people will be greedy enough to open them?
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Tbf Tutuu also claimed she got a warning that she was going to die so that could be what killed her. I still wouldn't open the gift.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:04 am Tutuu died 38 minutes after the day ended. That's not an end of day resolution that's a during night resolution.
I received my gift 17 minutes after day ended.
I think that Tutuu blew up cuz she opened a gift.
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Someone who shoots someone and the target dies if they're mafia but the shooter dies if the target is town.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:03 pmDefine: desperado?
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- Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:58 am
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]
Yeah, I felt good with a mafia flip since I love interaction analysis and looking at spew but it's not as straightforward as I wanted it to be. I'm less confident pyxxy actually knew John Doe and if he did there's nothing I found that points to a specific John Doe. I feel a bit burnt out now.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:47 amTbf, we essentially outted two wolfs in the same day but the wolves don’t have tmi. It’s hard to wim at forgone conclusions.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:45 am Tbh I am feeling no town wim. Completely forgot about this game too lol.
- Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:53 am
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I think so. afaik I also don't see anyone who really scumread pyxxy. He was in PoEs, but I don't think anyone really took a hard stance against him. I feel like either he did role swap with John Doe or there could be redirection in play.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:54 am 48 hours of my life just to get the guy who was outed yesterday. Such pain. Where you at town day vig.
A thought. The fact Pyxxy died and Dennis didn't makes it fairly likely that town aren't the reason Pyxxy is dead? Like if it was a straight town vig, Dennis would be dead not Pyxxy?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:41 pm
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Then that's a little odd with the theory is you have to do what it says or you die. Voting for someone is clearly measurable, a post count restriction is clearly measurable, but who determines whether something counts as pocketing?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:35 pmThat was me saying thatThunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:33 pmI forget who it was and it would be hard to search for, but didn't someone get a note saying to pocket you?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:59 pm But at least we know that one of the villian's kp is threatening town to do things that aren't good for town and then killing them if they don't do what they're told.
So uhhh... if you get made demands of in this game, respond accordingly.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:40 pm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]
@DrWilgy where are your reads at right now?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:33 pm
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I forget who it was and it would be hard to search for, but didn't someone get a note saying to pocket you?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:59 pm But at least we know that one of the villian's kp is threatening town to do things that aren't good for town and then killing them if they don't do what they're told.
So uhhh... if you get made demands of in this game, respond accordingly.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:25 pm
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Lmao. What kind of game is this?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:42 pmThere is nothing to imply it's the only way Kate could have become mafia though.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:36 pmKate already had the condition that she converts to mafia if 2 people who open her gifts die, and that didn't seem connected to the virtue.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:28 pmWhats there to say?Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:35 pm Catching up -
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:25 pmno my own personal theory that I had yesterday born out by the fact that pyxxy was mafia and not 3pS~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:14 pmWhat do you mean? Does it spell that out somewhere and I missed it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:11 pm So we only need to watch out for the opposite of Diligence and Kindness at the moment. so its technically 3vX+Y
I would like to hear more about this theory and any other please.
Host cant just make it 8v13 we lose instantly, so its gotta be 1+7? and 13 town.
if the host then wants to make the 3p able to join the mafia faction because lets be honest 1v20 is a bit difficult for a wolf he cant just let them switch when they want
So you have to gate it behind an achievement or some such(game theory!) in this situation I believed that Scotty had gated it behind the opposing virtue.
When pyxxy flipped as mafia his virtue was already dead. Kates was not.
So if you follow my logic kate is 3p because Chastity wasnt dead but I forget what pyxxy was but his opposite was dead for a phase and he had joined the mafia faction (Note: this was an optional choice that pyxxy made because as host would you really want to force someone to become a mafia in the event the mafia faction is doomed or got hit day 1?)
If you want to know more ask questions? But I feel like ive explained this three times already
But it is interesting that the track I saw was her "gifting" Dennis. So Dennis opened the gift and received a BTSC as the reward I guess. That's kind of messed up if you think about the roles.
Lust sends Dennis a gift, he's like sure, "Hi son, unwrap me I'm your present".
"Mother noooooo!"
No wonder Dennis has stopped posting. Poor kid probably has unreconcilable trauma.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:36 pm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]
Kate already had the condition that she converts to mafia if 2 people who open her gifts die, and that didn't seem connected to the virtue.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:28 pmWhats there to say?Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:35 pm Catching up -
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:25 pmno my own personal theory that I had yesterday born out by the fact that pyxxy was mafia and not 3pS~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:14 pmWhat do you mean? Does it spell that out somewhere and I missed it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:11 pm So we only need to watch out for the opposite of Diligence and Kindness at the moment. so its technically 3vX+Y
I would like to hear more about this theory and any other please.
Host cant just make it 8v13 we lose instantly, so its gotta be 1+7? and 13 town.
if the host then wants to make the 3p able to join the mafia faction because lets be honest 1v20 is a bit difficult for a wolf he cant just let them switch when they want
So you have to gate it behind an achievement or some such(game theory!) in this situation I believed that Scotty had gated it behind the opposing virtue.
When pyxxy flipped as mafia his virtue was already dead. Kates was not.
So if you follow my logic kate is 3p because Chastity wasnt dead but I forget what pyxxy was but his opposite was dead for a phase and he had joined the mafia faction (Note: this was an optional choice that pyxxy made because as host would you really want to force someone to become a mafia in the event the mafia faction is doomed or got hit day 1?)
If you want to know more ask questions? But I feel like ive explained this three times already
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:26 pm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]
I'm honestly still not sure why Kate and especially Dennis gave up so easily. Afaik Kate wasn't mafia aligned since it didn't say so in her flip so she would have just 100% lost the game by being outed. Why take that risk giving info to Sean then? And Dennis wasn't even completely outed until he outed himself. I wonder if he's trying to shield John Doe and if so, who would it make sense for him to shield?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:12 pm So far none of the three confirmed sins played with much self preservation.
Kate tried to powerwolf but as soon as it fell apart she just went belly up and ate the chop.
Dennis went belly up and literally is not even posting so he's not worried about dying and seems to want to be today's chop.
Pyxxy gave a very meh level effort to appear town.
I am not of the view that the sins consider themselves necessary to achieve the mafia wincon.
Which makes it quite likely that the other players who are just making a very limp effort to play this game are >rand sin. Namely the likes of Wilgy, Epi, Falcon, Dubz, Matahari... frankly a LOT of slots. I want to exclude SVS and Nanook from this list but I can't really cuz they're both kinda phoning it in as well.
If there are town playing like that it is kind of unhelpful. We need townies to separate themselves more.
I guess this is a longwinded way of saying I think that the sins are just sort of along for the ride and if there is a wolf that's really going hard to be deep it's probably only John Doe?
I do think John Doe is probably the most important wolf and he'd have more reason to try than a sin. It's plausible that the sin roles feel they have less to play for especially since they start without a team.
I somewhat trust Kate's SVS clear in her Sean BTSC and her posting is still quite different from when I saw her as a wolf in GoC. There she felt classically wolfy while here she's giving the tone of a reserved town who comes in with insights.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:15 pm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]
Is that how it usually is here?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:13 pm Cause I tend to think “no btsc” = “doesn’t know his teammates” but I could be totally wrong
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:14 pm
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No, I never had chat with him. Desperado was my initial thought after he claimed a day action and died but then why didn't he shoot d2? After Kate and Dennis got outed it would be optimal for him to shoot. He could have had a day cop and then got shot by a baddie, or maybe the whole cop check was a gambit and he didn't have a clear. At the same time I can't shake the feeling that he expected to die today.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:09 pmSeanzie being a desperado seems unlikely to me given he said he had clears but didn't die in the gathering of them. He was the "DA" and it was day 3, so he might have had a n1 and n2 alignment check. But he also said that he is the one who targeted Kate to get the neighbour chat with her so... He said he had two clears and outed a mafia. He outed Kate via mech so basically his role was like a neighbouriser who was also alignment checking or something of that nature. The way he was communicating with Rondo and vice versa makes it likely his night 2 was Rondo who he got a townfirm on. They probably both amped up the tinfoil on me together in a discord chat which is probably why it overwhelmed me.
I don't know how he would have got the second "clear" unless he had a n0? Maybe he had the n0 on Kate and got town clears on n1 and n2?
This is the kind of mech that probably should be surfaced now that he's dead. If you got targeted by Seanzie and had night chat with him that clears you there is probably not much reason to withhold that information from the thread because JD and co. probably have figured it out. When I am mafia in role madness games figuring out the mech of what the town have done/are doing is incredibly easy usually and the main counter to it is the town actually talking about it in the thread usually.
So @RondoDimBuckle am I warm here?
He said he cleared one person and outed two (Kate and Dennis). Did he ever claim to have a second clear elsewhere?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:04 pm
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I still think we should chop Dennis today since he's outed evil who could use a power tonight, but we should focus on finding John Doe. Tbh a good place to start would be trying to find someone who knew pyxxy's alignment d2.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:58 pm Let's talk about how we can actually win this game.
Whether it's recruit or roleswap, we obviously can't win this game as a town while John Doe is alive.
Whether it's my theory and John Doe rotates, or whether John Doe recruits, we have to kill John Doe.
So far we have seen town die in the night twice, and the day once. There is a lot of anti town KP here.
At the speed we are losing town, chopping sins is not going to win us this game. However, of course, the sins have negative PR and probably need to die because if they become mafia they count towards parity, so leaving them alive is also not optimal. But the trick to games like this is to think outside the box. Scotty has designed a mystery thriller. We have to solve the setup. That's what he wants us to do.
If we flip Dennis here, and he's just a sin and flips sin which seems likely, we are likely to then lose another town and be back where we are tomorrow with another town and maybe two town dead.
We need to try to kill John Doe because either that literally will end the game, or it stops the mafia from multiplying. We have to find John Doe, that means we have to figure out what the fuck John Doe is and for that we need townies to share information with each other.
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:55 pm
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I get the feeling based on the way Roxy's push on me is made that she believes it.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:48 pm
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I thought Dubz' early d1 posting was good and more relaxed than her scum game and I think her falling off was purely irl. I don't have anything to hide. When I say they're not worth a cop check in this case I mean that I'd rather have spent it on someone who contributes more to the game than those two. I feel a bit hesitant to push Wilgy because Kate did and afaik she wasn't trying to townside, so I wonder if she did have a townread on Wilgy. Mata feels like a reserved player that sometimes pops out with insights. I think her actual content is decent.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:25 pmthis is so pingalicious I do not even know where to begin.
This is slippery posting. When players slippery post it is very pingy to peeps like me who play on vibe and tone and yours is not good. Are you Mac's puppet today? You can't even speak for yourself in thsi small little question post that you say "well Mac is..." blah blah blah. Slippery.
Why do you town lean dubz?
Wigly tho in the post above does not say anything about outer or inner poe, what does that even mean? Slippery! Again!
Mata suddenly you do not find suspicious and not worth a cop check similar to wigly - Slippery! Again!
It feels like you're treating me with suspicious colored glasses so everything I say is suspicious to you. I'm not Mac's puppet, he happens to have a similar PoE to me and be very likely town so yes I want to work with him.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:45 pm
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I'm kind of weirded out by him and aren't sure what to think tbh. My initial thought was that his direction today was too out there to be wolfy.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:44 pm
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What? I still townlean Dubz, Wilgy is outer PoE and not an ideal cop check imo, and Mata isn't an ideal cop check either and I don't find her that suspicious now.
Like Mac said, you spent so much time defending Mata so why include Mata here?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:31 pm
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Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool and I like all sorts of social deduction games not just mafia. I just think for a mafia game I'd expect a true informed minority somewhat soon into the game.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:27 pmThis is more like a LMS type game with the zest of an added town core and a recruiting baddie faction to deal with. Really the hosts inspiration for this is awesome tbh.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:28 pmI'd guess he does because we know John Doe knows the sin's identity and Kate's role doesn't say anything about not knowing John Doe. I kind of feel like knowing John Doe would be the default. It's also some setup spec that spending two whole phases with there not being a true informed minority isn't even really mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:21 pmYour solution is based on the idea Pyxxy knows who Joh Doe is, talk me through how you came to that?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:20 pmehh I still am not convinced we're in level 1 world and I wouldn't clear Rondo. I've played enough mafia.gg games with lost wolves to know not everything that looks like a signal is one, but I think it raises the odds of him being mafia and I'm a little paranoid at how agreeable and conventionally towny he is compared to Solar System.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 pm We are in World 1
In world 1 everything is just easy and fun
In world 1 the following players are town
Rondo for setup solving
Thunal for wim and hard solving
Nanook for being super towny and probably never killing Zenon
Seanzie for teabagging 2 sins
Jack because he "self confirms" and wolves never claim to do that (do they? lol)
Who else is level 1 AN TOWNIE?
I'd add you and Michelle to the list.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:23 pm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]
@MacDougall while you're here what do you think of the idea Seanzie cleared me and do you see any other plausible people Sean might have cleared?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:18 pm
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You seem different because you're posting more and you have a lot more one-liners. You feel more like you're playing in real time than you felt in both of the other games I played with you. You're also focusing on specifically Mata a lot but that could be because that's where your strongest read is.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:42 pmExpand on how I am different. I tend to change play every game so this should be enlightening.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pmRn from what I've learned from how sins act I think baddies may play in a way that's different from their usual play, even if that difference doesn't translate to TMI. Falcon and Roxy are in my PoE since they both come across as different from their usual game. I had a tinfoil on SVS but I don't think that's true because from what you said Kate had a real townread on her.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:48 pmTell me about your current worldview.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:39 pm Here's some interesting mech info. From Kate's role:
-You will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia.
So if pyxxy's conversion was similar, then he wouldn't have BTSC with John Doe d2. I'm not sure if "a full phase" means day and night cycle or just a day phase.
And I noticed last night that John Doe has a profile in the setup roles spoiler. Here's the only thing on conversion from it:
You start with no teammates. If a Deadly Sin changes to align with you, you will immediately know their identity but ???
So John Doe would know pyxxy's alignment, but would pyxxy know John Doe's alignment? I'd guess so and I'll solve in a world where he does but it's possible he doesn't.
I have a cool theory that might narrow down who John Doe could be. Assuming pyxxy does know the identity of John Doe, he made a post SOD2 saying he thought DOOM was killed for non-setup related reasons. I read into this post as genuine so I think John Doe is someone pyxxy could believe killed DOOM for non-setup reasons. Off the top of my head that means, say, Mac isn't John Doe since I couldn't imagine him killing anyone for non-setup reasons and pyxxy would know that. I'll look into who else fits that category.
Idk that we can trust any of Kate's reads honestly she knows you all are about POE and spew so a player who has been around the block a couple of times would avoid any spew at all, trust nothing imo.
Have you figured out in your theory who you *think* might be JD?
Already answered the John Doe question, and tbh I have no problem with you asking.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:35 pm
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Also I think Rondo's recent posts are a decent look. Him going after Mac now by sheeping Seanzie would just be a bad play if he were. Same with tinfoiling Seanzie being a hero shot, if he's bad why attract that much attention on a far fetched theory that will not be received well?
Rn Nanook, Epi, Roxy, and Falcon are my immediate PoE other than Dennis.
Rn Nanook, Epi, Roxy, and Falcon are my immediate PoE other than Dennis.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:25 pm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]
ngl I was hoping it wasn't me since a clear in the PoE would be really nice to have but it looks like it was.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:21 pm
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After he claimed to have the clear, so I don't think he targeted Mac.
I looked for the possible clear targets and I think Sean targeted me. He doesn't have me in his PoE when he did before and the only thing he said relating to me after he claimed the clear was asking Mac about me which I thought was a little odd since Mac said so many words on me at SoD.
I feel like he knew he was going to die, but didn't know exactly when. His whole "I'm on a rampage" makes sense if it's tongue in cheek and he knows he's going to die from the check/desperado.
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:52 pm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]
Rip Seanzie, you played well.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:52 pm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
I still have this lingering paranoia that Kate and Dennis being outed is too easy. Kate trusted Sean so much she apparently sent him a screenshot of her role and hinted about Dennis. Afaik she played with Seanzie and so would know he does gambits like that so why would she immediately be so trusting? And why would Dennis give up at the same time as Kate when he wasn't 100% outed?S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:58 amI meant to address this earlier, but Fathers Day and anything most people said would have become lost in yesterdays lusty thread. I also know it's moot at this point, but i didn't want to leave it to hang.Spoiler: show
After Hot Dog Fingers, Kate and I decided never to do that again. That game was really stressful because of that, that we were taking alot of flak for being two old friends who *met* playing Mafia being confident on our reads of each other. If I suspect her, I'll make a case, and if I don't I'll put her in a reads list if I make one. And she agreed.
Had she done so, it would have been a huge red flag to me. I was even kind of thinking that was why she didn't make a reads list, she was trying to avoid it. But obvs it was becasue she was bad lol
I already voted Dennis, we need to resolve him. I have tinfoil that he's actually Doe, hence his Mom devoting so much time to thread spamming, to keep his name out of peoples mouths one more day. And while she seemed to inexplicably (Kate is pretty paranoid, I look forward to reading that chat post game to see just WHY she trusted him at all) trust Sean, I am not sure she would have given up Doe to him or anyone else if Doe was her actual son. Giving him another day to gather a team. It didn't say in Kates role that she needed Doe alive to become bad, but having played a similar role, it's a strong possibility imo that that might be the case.
I checked the First Post, and it was not updated to show any baddies other than Doe, I guess we are not being informed of this, so I'm assuming with Pyxxys flip that we're in a regular Mafia game now and there could be more. I plan to do some rereading today with that in mind.
There's a good chance it really is that easy and I'm not focusing on this tinfoil, but it is interesting.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
On the curse thing, I do think it's weird since I don't think anyone else had a forced roleplay or any sort of restriction beyond mine and Tutuu's notes warning us not to talk much yesterday.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:15 amDo we really believe Epi had a curse? What if he was just trying to encourage the sins to signal to him?
Most of Epi's ISO is like, okay in a "this is standard Epi" way but these two posts on day 2 kind of stand out as being awkward for him. @Jackofhearts2005 @DrWilgy @S~V~S you probably have the most experience with him. These posts lack the curmudgeonliness I associate with town Epi. Like he seems a bit more proactive, in a not very good way?Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:44 pmI don't agree. My thinking is a redirection is in play.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Would she necessarily know about it? It's possible she didn't check her discord.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:05 amDubz day 1 in hindsight was like ... kinda meh. Like not wolfy just meh.Dubz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:57 amHi unsure. Haven't read since I mentioned I'd be sparse. Did not expect to be quite as sparse as I have been, this move has been hellish.Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:44 am @falcon45ca where are you today with your thoughts?
@Matahari what be your reads after the last elim?
@pyxxy what did you make of the NK on Doom? Does it affect your reads today?
@Dubz where are you at in your reads today?
@Dennis do you have a rainbow or reads list yet?
I'm going to try my best to catch up tomorrow but no internet at the new place yet so I'll be restricted to mobile. If anyone can give me a rundown on what I've missed so far this cycle that would be neato!
This is their only day 2 post. They received a gift from Zenon night 1 with 3 votes. They did not use it. That makes me think they do not care about who they vote for. I know they were time limited, but I feel like a slanker with a triple vote at least shows some interest in figuring out where to put it?