The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:52 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:50 pm I don't like both of these wagons and it makes me wonder if one or more of Mac/Kate are bad.
Actually my old read on Mac is for his push on me and later some analysis he made was debatable, but I never read all game so why he doesn't have any other vote?

Because he's Mac.

Actually, I did go back and forth on him but I thought his willingness to reevaluate reads like with you and his stubbornness with the Tutuu shield leaned good. Now I think it's plausible he reevaluated you because he had to since you became clear town to anyone who knew you.

Ugh now I'm wondering why tutuu didn't really defend herself against the points I made.

I don't like both of these wagons and it makes me wonder if one or more of Mac/Kate are bad.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:46 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:43 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

I think Tutuu is town. I don't necessarily think Porscha is scum.
I can understand that.
I am not on town teritory with neither of them
Tell me more about tutuu
Why is she nervous if town?

I didn't necessarily get nervous from her, I more got that she doesn't want to die which any alignment doesn't. I think the appealing to Kate is just something town think of way more often and I think her not wanting to CFD because she's going to be resolved anyway leans towny.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:40 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:31 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:29 pm ok ok i g2g i need to code

@Kate KATEY LISTEN TO ME KATEY

i dont want you feeling bad or guilty or nuthin if i flip, bet? i dunno if u know but im extremely calm with getting chopped, i dont bear grudges or nothing. its just a game, i play it for fun, ive had fun. chopping ppl isn't anti-fun or toxic, iss part of the game, sucks to associate negative emotions with it, there shouldn't be any. its all cool

I DONT WANT YOU LOSING CONFIDENCE. i dont want u to feel embarassed and be like "aaa what am i doing, i dont know anything ;-;". YOU ARE STILL ONE OF THE BEST TOWN PLAYERS IVE SEEN IN MY LIFE. and NOONE is infallible. noone has perfect accuracy. just coz u misread me here doesn't mean you can't carry. PLEASE DONT LOSE HOPE, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, KEEP PLAYING AND KEEP HAVING FUN. I LOVE YOU
This is a towny post.
This post is the first of hers to worry me. She isreferring to something very specific that only I would know about and trying to make me feel better about it while simultaneously trying to make me feel better for mislynchung her.

If she's being honest here then I'm a total shit for voting her. If she's lying then she is the most underhanded dastardly wolf I've ever seen.

Nah, it's just a game in both cases.

I think it's something Tutuu would have a way easier time thinking of as town.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:43 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:40 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:35 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:16 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:20 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:18 pm I dunno what I'm apparently missing with tutuu here but I'm seeing normal tutuu lol.
I went back and looked at her day one in Crossover, and it was so so different than this. This looks like OT Discord Tutuu, not like townie baddie hunting Tutuu.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:03 pm I got some yucky feels on wilgy and I'm uber surprised no one else is talking about this.

I'm caught up reading and I feel no better about tutuu.

In summary:
wilgy
Tutuu

Explain yucky feelings? I felt the opposite. You prolly recall, I had a chance to play bad Wilgy and civvie Wilgy pretty much simultaneously in your Meta Game (he was bad) and Hot Dog Fingers. After he killed me in Meta, and I found he was bad, I was able to contrast him clearly in HDF since I had been reading him the opposite of reality. He was only posting in the word 'yes' or maybe 'no' in HDF, but when I did something he didn't like, he was super clear about it. Crystal. His reply (spoilered below) to Pyxxy about his vote 'feels' the exact same way to me.

So tell me what you see that I don't.

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S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:37 pm

@RondoDimBuckle , since you were asking about pee pee this AM, this post makes me feel OK about Wilgy, this is the kind of snappy remark he made to me when I voted for him in HDF for a weak reason. He was doing his Wilgy thing, then he snapped to attention and rebuked me for saying something dopey. Just like this post ^^. As opposed to Meta, where he had me pocketed so hard I'm still picking lint from my hair.

I went back and skimmed Tutuu in Wwerecreatures, because I thought she was similar there, but, nah, I was wrong. She was hard civving there from the get go. Is changing up her game a thing she does? Plus earlier today she was doing that thing that looked like flinging the shit to see what sticks. But we have more than half the day to go, I'd like to hear more from her before I pile on.

I have to go do something for about 45 mins (loving this retirement ) and I'll pull the post but it was under the Simpson on the bus and the falcon is town sign and he spoke about 'TMI.'
I think that was a derp. If he's scum without TMI, I don't think he would believe something is a TMI pocket attempt.
But what if he's a scum WITH TMI?
It's possible, but it's also possible he's town that didn't read the setup.
Mafia can not read the setup as well, especially when is complicated.
That's why derp clears are wrong

I don't think it's a derp clear, just a derp. I don't trust derp clears either.

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

I think Tutuu is town. I don't necessarily think Porscha is scum.

I have very little confidence in my vote right now. If anything this just makes me feel like there are no scum with TMI since if there were I feel like I'd have an actual scumread now.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:35 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:16 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:20 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:18 pm I dunno what I'm apparently missing with tutuu here but I'm seeing normal tutuu lol.
I went back and looked at her day one in Crossover, and it was so so different than this. This looks like OT Discord Tutuu, not like townie baddie hunting Tutuu.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:03 pm I got some yucky feels on wilgy and I'm uber surprised no one else is talking about this.

I'm caught up reading and I feel no better about tutuu.

In summary:
wilgy
Tutuu

Explain yucky feelings? I felt the opposite. You prolly recall, I had a chance to play bad Wilgy and civvie Wilgy pretty much simultaneously in your Meta Game (he was bad) and Hot Dog Fingers. After he killed me in Meta, and I found he was bad, I was able to contrast him clearly in HDF since I had been reading him the opposite of reality. He was only posting in the word 'yes' or maybe 'no' in HDF, but when I did something he didn't like, he was super clear about it. Crystal. His reply (spoilered below) to Pyxxy about his vote 'feels' the exact same way to me.

So tell me what you see that I don't.

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S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:20 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:54 am

ah okay here, let me help you make this kind of post NAI for you

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
Does Pyxxy legitimately think that voting me would suddenly turn a post that should be NAI to a post that should be NAI? How does your voting me ACTUALLY make a difference here?

I wasn't giving you anything AI in the first place.
@RondoDimBuckle , since you were asking about pee pee this AM, this post makes me feel OK about Wilgy, this is the kind of snappy remark he made to me when I voted for him in HDF for a weak reason. He was doing his Wilgy thing, then he snapped to attention and rebuked me for saying something dopey. Just like this post ^^. As opposed to Meta, where he had me pocketed so hard I'm still picking lint from my hair.

I went back and skimmed Tutuu in Wwerecreatures, because I thought she was similar there, but, nah, I was wrong. She was hard civving there from the get go. Is changing up her game a thing she does? Plus earlier today she was doing that thing that looked like flinging the shit to see what sticks. But we have more than half the day to go, I'd like to hear more from her before I pile on.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:31 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:29 pm Nothing more boring than finding concentrations and equilibrium constants

I can't wait to never do chemistry again
I wish i had any reason to take a math or chemistry class.

Go take it if you want, go to your local community college and take courses. I started taking some lit and history classes just for fun. You don't need a reason.

I have to go do something for about 45 mins (loving this retirement ) and I'll pull the post but it was under the Simpson on the bus and the falcon is town sign and he spoke about 'TMI.'
I think that was a derp. If he's scum without TMI, I don't think he would believe something is a TMI pocket attempt.
But what if he's a scum WITH TMI?

It's possible, but it's also possible he's town that didn't read the setup.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:01 pm The best I can say in defense of Porscha and to Zenon's point, is that town Porscha does sometimes take a while to show herself. I have found myself scumreading town Porscha for similar games before but then suddenly Porscha just shows up and it's like okay there she is my bad and I close the book.

That it hasn't happened and we are 1 hour prior to eod1 makes it highly unlikely to happen. Zenon is right that town Porscha can have these games sometimes, but there is too much in common with her common wolf game and nothing like her common town game as it stands, and to say that "yeah she looks like wolf Porscha and not like town Porscha but she can still be town Porscha" is a far too generous argument.

This is why I haven't had much of a read on Porscha - I know I was able to push her as mafia in Solar System for "not being obvious town" and she took awhile to show herself. I don't want to make the mistake of voting a town Porscha that would become obvious town if she had more time.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:00 pm oh yeah final final msg pls dont cfd i dont think its good. i mean i know im town and there might be a chance we hit a non-town but... porscha's wagon is lowkey cfd she didnt have a chance to respond. very few people are here (noone is here who is a wagon contender). so like, ... if we cfd to someone last second, they flip town, this will be torment for me tomorrow lol, it will just be a lot of distraction coz ppl will still be scumreading me and a lot of ppl are like "i dont wanna solve further until my scumread flips" and it just slows down the game. i think its cool if i flip here and tomorrow u guys evaluate and the ppl who are getting pushed ought to get a chance to respond. coz like, ... ive had all the time in the world to respond to my accusators, it didn't sway them, so if i dont get chopped i think i just slow down the game and it hurts town

This is fairly strongly a town thought.

I vote the most likely wolf in contention, CFD or not. It's looking like that's Porscha.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:29 pm ok ok i g2g i need to code

@Kate KATEY LISTEN TO ME KATEY

i dont want you feeling bad or guilty or nuthin if i flip, bet? i dunno if u know but im extremely calm with getting chopped, i dont bear grudges or nothing. its just a game, i play it for fun, ive had fun. chopping ppl isn't anti-fun or toxic, iss part of the game, sucks to associate negative emotions with it, there shouldn't be any. its all cool

I DONT WANT YOU LOSING CONFIDENCE. i dont want u to feel embarassed and be like "aaa what am i doing, i dont know anything ;-;". YOU ARE STILL ONE OF THE BEST TOWN PLAYERS IVE SEEN IN MY LIFE. and NOONE is infallible. noone has perfect accuracy. just coz u misread me here doesn't mean you can't carry. PLEASE DONT LOSE HOPE, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, KEEP PLAYING AND KEEP HAVING FUN. I LOVE YOU

This is a towny post.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:20 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:18 pm I dunno what I'm apparently missing with tutuu here but I'm seeing normal tutuu lol.
I went back and looked at her day one in Crossover, and it was so so different than this. This looks like OT Discord Tutuu, not like townie baddie hunting Tutuu.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:03 pm I got some yucky feels on wilgy and I'm uber surprised no one else is talking about this.

I'm caught up reading and I feel no better about tutuu.

In summary:
wilgy
Tutuu

Explain yucky feelings? I felt the opposite. You prolly recall, I had a chance to play bad Wilgy and civvie Wilgy pretty much simultaneously in your Meta Game (he was bad) and Hot Dog Fingers. After he killed me in Meta, and I found he was bad, I was able to contrast him clearly in HDF since I had been reading him the opposite of reality. He was only posting in the word 'yes' or maybe 'no' in HDF, but when I did something he didn't like, he was super clear about it. Crystal. His reply (spoilered below) to Pyxxy about his vote 'feels' the exact same way to me.

So tell me what you see that I don't.

Spoiler: show
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:20 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:54 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:49 am Wolfy 4th vote on Tutuu.

Have a nice day.
ah okay here, let me help you make this kind of post NAI for you

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
Does Pyxxy legitimately think that voting me would suddenly turn a post that should be NAI to a post that should be NAI? How does your voting me ACTUALLY make a difference here?

I wasn't giving you anything AI in the first place.
@RondoDimBuckle , since you were asking about pee pee this AM, this post makes me feel OK about Wilgy, this is the kind of snappy remark he made to me when I voted for him in HDF for a weak reason. He was doing his Wilgy thing, then he snapped to attention and rebuked me for saying something dopey. Just like this post ^^. As opposed to Meta, where he had me pocketed so hard I'm still picking lint from my hair.

I went back and skimmed Tutuu in Wwerecreatures, because I thought she was similar there, but, nah, I was wrong. She was hard civving there from the get go. Is changing up her game a thing she does? Plus earlier today she was doing that thing that looked like flinging the shit to see what sticks. But we have more than half the day to go, I'd like to hear more from her before I pile on.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:31 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:29 pm Nothing more boring than finding concentrations and equilibrium constants

I can't wait to never do chemistry again
I wish i had any reason to take a math or chemistry class.

Go take it if you want, go to your local community college and take courses. I started taking some lit and history classes just for fun. You don't need a reason.

I have to go do something for about 45 mins (loving this retirement ) and I'll pull the post but it was under the Simpson on the bus and the falcon is town sign and he spoke about 'TMI.'

I think that was a derp. If he's scum without TMI, I don't think he would believe something is a TMI pocket attempt.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:11 pm Gonna miss eod cuz i have to take my daughter to hospital cuz covid/diabetes bad juju wish her luck.

Good luck to her, hope she gets better.

I'm currently reading up. I had the thought that Mac probably thinks Tutuu is town regardless of his own alignment. I don't see 3p/mafia Mac lying about a Tutuu town shield when he actually thinks Tutuu will flip scum since if she does that draws a lot of negative attention to him for no gain.

If EoD is at 7 pm I won't be here for it since I have to leave now. If EoD is at 10 pm I should be around in the last hour or so.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:46 pm Eod is in one hour and 15 mins?

Wait, it does show that. I assumed EoD was at 10 pm since that's when SoD was.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:53 pm I'm caught up now and I think tutuu is likely just a hit for a couple reasons.
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:48 pm i dont think kate scumreading me is malicious too, she did insist i play and as she said she feels bad for voting me but she believes it i think that sounds genuine so she can be town too
This feels like a "get off my back" post on Kate. It took a good bit of Kate outing the "slip" and scumreading tutuu for her to respond at all, and this is what she responds with. I'm working under the assumption that tutuu knows Kate is a very good townie and is often right on her confident reads. Most townies would think Kate tunneling them would raise alarm bells about her or at least question her reasoning.
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:49 pm wow zenon chan unvoting me coz she doesnt wanna be on the villager flip??? now THAT is malicious ...
This and then the general exaggerated suspicion of Zenon feels self pres minded. Zenon's done a lot but there's not much thought put into the Zenon read. Tutuu's initial reasoning for voting Zenon was that she wasn't obvious town out of the gate and then that just didn't evolve even after imo Zenon's approach to the game was towny. I also think it's a disproportionate amount of confidence to what the read actually is.

[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

I think I assigned too much importance to Tutuu shielding Mac when that could be a level 2 scum play to make people get off her. There's a good chance tutuu is a scum and I still think especially the Kate thing is scummy. When Mac was scumreading Michelle, Michelle just didn't believe Mac would scumread her that hard and doubled down on scumreading him which I think is a towny reaction. In contrast, tutuu payed very little attention to Kate, who is also a known very good player tunneling her.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:31 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:30 pm I'm also revisiting tutuu now that I'm doubtful about trusting Mac's reads. Like, does town Tutuu really derpclear literally everyone who didn't read that 3ps can change alignments? That's such an easy clear to fake.
There's no like. Tutuu actually believes that the game is this easy.

Why would you think tutuu actually believes it instead of wondering if she's bad for it? I think of tutuu as a pretty good solver when she tries and I'm not sure if she'd rely on dubious derpclears like that.

Another thing I just realized that looks bad for Tutuu: I know she reads into emotion to tell whether it's real or fake. There's been some this game like Mac's post about being annoyed but she hasn't commented on it. Mac's post doesn't seem like something town Tutuu would ignore while townreading him.

I'm also revisiting tutuu now that I'm doubtful about trusting Mac's reads. Like, does town Tutuu really derpclear literally everyone who didn't read that 3ps can change alignments? That's such an easy clear to fake.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:07 pm Confident town

Dennis
Doom
Dubs
Nanook
Tutuu++
Thunal+

Kinda town

SVS
Kate
Roxy
Jack

Lil bit town

Falcon++

Lil woofy

Rondo-
Epi+
Pyxxy+

Woof

Zenon
Porscha
Michelle
This reads list is made up from my pov

Not only because Mac scum reads me, but because he town reads Roxy who has 5 Nai posts, and has Doom as confident town, etc.

Tbh I'm really starting to think you're town because of you going after Mac and I'm having doubts on Mac for it. I don't think Zenon is scum, I don't think you're scum, I'm not sure about Porscha so I'm not sold that Mac's PoE is any good.

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:17 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:19 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:08 am Falcon is mafia.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:52 pm
I have a fairly confident town read on Falcon. Part of it was him calling tutuu's meme game off because the pic didn't match her description. That's the kind of nitpicky paranoia I think comes way more often from town. Same with him talking about the details with Kate's vegetable list. Even though that one isn't entirely serious, imo it still shows Falcon cares about looking for things that seem off. I think his willingness to sling mud and engage with the thread also leans towny.

While I agree. This is a TMI pocket attempt.
Really? There are 7 3p that I believe are each solo and 1 mafia. I don't think anyone knows anyone else's alignment.
1000% unless Tutuu really did tmi that Sins are in contact.

I don't think that's what Tutuu's "slip" was? She thought the one mafia knew who was a sin and who wasn't.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:33 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:32 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:49 am Michelle
3
16%
Voters: @S~V~S , @DaughterOfOmega , @Thunal33

I am busy irl, if this is pressure, i will not answer until later, so adress me any questuons you have with a ping
@Michelle why do you think Mac should townread you?
He should not, but from no towm read to top scum is a gap unexplained from what I read.
Like I said, he doesn't even try to read me. Put me on Poe and he's happy with it.
And that's very bad coming from him.

While I personally found a couple town pings from him and don't agree with your read, I think this is a response town you would make. It makes a lot of sense to be paranoid of a good player who's scumreading you if you're town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:29 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:56 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:53 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:08 am Falcon is mafia.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:52 pm
I have a fairly confident town read on Falcon. Part of it was him calling tutuu's meme game off because the pic didn't match her description. That's the kind of nitpicky paranoia I think comes way more often from town. Same with him talking about the details with Kate's vegetable list. Even though that one isn't entirely serious, imo it still shows Falcon cares about looking for things that seem off. I think his willingness to sling mud and engage with the thread also leans towny.

Sorry that your read is wrong.
You have slank cover, why aren't you using it
I am. I am doing significantly less than I would otherwise. I still want to find a good vote and target though.

Can you explain your Porscha town read?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:19 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:08 am Falcon is mafia.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:52 pm
I have a fairly confident town read on Falcon. Part of it was him calling tutuu's meme game off because the pic didn't match her description. That's the kind of nitpicky paranoia I think comes way more often from town. Same with him talking about the details with Kate's vegetable list. Even though that one isn't entirely serious, imo it still shows Falcon cares about looking for things that seem off. I think his willingness to sling mud and engage with the thread also leans towny.

While I agree. This is a TMI pocket attempt.

Really? There are 7 3p that I believe are each solo and 1 mafia. I don't think anyone knows anyone else's alignment.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:08 am Falcon is mafia.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:52 pm
I have a fairly confident town read on Falcon. Part of it was him calling tutuu's meme game off because the pic didn't match her description. That's the kind of nitpicky paranoia I think comes way more often from town. Same with him talking about the details with Kate's vegetable list. Even though that one isn't entirely serious, imo it still shows Falcon cares about looking for things that seem off. I think his willingness to sling mud and engage with the thread also leans towny.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:45 am
Derp clearing Mac? Not something I would trust tbh.
You're quite desperate tutuu

I wanted to look at specifically this. I don't understand why Michelle thinks Tutuu is desperate for derp clearing Mac. Wouldn't a desperate tutuu want to case Mac, the other top wagon, so she can live?

I'm not sold on the "slip" being an actual slip btw, especially since there's a 1/21 chance of tutuu actually being John Doe. Town say things that look like scumslips but aren't all the time.

I think Zenon is town from her catchup. The reevaluation on Tutuu looks good and her reaction to my post scumreading Tutuu felt like she was being validated (which is a town ping I also got from her in the art upick).

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:49 am Michelle
3
16%
Voters: @S~V~S , @DaughterOfOmega , @Thunal33

I am busy irl, if this is pressure, i will not answer until later, so adress me any questuons you have with a ping

@Michelle why do you think Mac should townread you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:09 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:05 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:04 pm :/

I'm gonna feel bad if Rondo dies tn because of the last ~30 minutes of the thread :/
Elaborate.
we collectively summoned focused Rondo after a good long while of a fresh new Rondo

that's enough to get a Rondo killed
I don't think I've seen Rondo get night oned by mafia in a game quite literally ever.

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tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:06 pm [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

i dont think shes mafia

Then why are you voting her? We have a lot of time left so vanity votes aren't useless.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:45 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:40 pm Guys I think Tutuu is town can you please unvote her.

@Kate @falcon45ca @DrWilgy @Dubz @RondoDimBuckle
If anyone has cause to disagree with my vote, I would also like to hear why. Not simply that you do, but why. For if you were to say "Guys I think Tutuu is town can you please unvote her." or some variation of that including "why are you voting tutuu she is town", I will roll my eyes and move on with my life.
Tutuu is hyperactively shielding town Mac to the detriment of doing anything else so at worst she is a massively townsiding wolf, more likely just town.
context. Tutuu is 6/21 and she knows it. She wants to not die. She comes calling for to to shield her and you do.

Do you
A) Shield her because she is town and you are too
B) Shield her because she is wolf and you are 3p
C) shield her because you are wolf and she is 3p
D) shield her because she is town and you are wolf
E) Shield her because she is wolf and you are town and wrong
F) Shield her because she is 3p and you are 3p

All of these are actions I can see current mac taking.

Additionally you place tutuu and myself as "little bit town" but you shield her from us but not me from dennis?

In your big wall post you put a big large lyric at tutuu. The title of which is high, in the movie Se7en. There is a lovely scene where a man has been forced to be high for over a year. This man is sloth. So are you signalling to her that you are sloth or she is and that you are her best buddy? Either way after this post Tutuu asks to combine with you. So no. I am not moving. Contextually. You are now 3p and tutuu is either mafia or 3p also. Either way. lovely hits for me.

Dennis is also doing his best to distract me so he can go in your pile too.
Tutuu had five votes on them, you have one. Tutuu is hard shielding me and wanting to work with me, you are not. That is why I am "shielding" Tutuu and not shielding you. You do not need shielding, and I have zero need to be shielding you.

I politely asked people to unvote Tutuu btw. I am not flailing about madly trying to pull votes off her. I don't think she is a wolf, and if she is, I am going to let her Mac side for now, so I am have zero actual reason not to comply with her wishes to "combine" and attempt to help her here.

Not only all of the above, but Tutuu having 6 votes on her right now is just silly. Tutuu is probably one of the best 3 townies in the game and should be given the opportunity to self resolve or be halfway ruled much like me. This wagon state is actually absurd.

I'll join you.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:53 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:31 pm Zenon
Pyxxy
Falcon
Porscha
Epi
Michelle

I welcome explanations as to why the above six players are town, from not them.
I have a fairly confident town read on Falcon. Part of it was him calling tutuu's meme game off because the pic didn't match her description. That's the kind of nitpicky paranoia I think comes way more often from town. Same with him talking about the details with Kate's vegetable list. Even though that one isn't entirely serious, imo it still shows Falcon cares about looking for things that seem off. I think his willingness to sling mud and engage with the thread also leans towny.
Thanks. What about the other five?

The only one of the others I'm inclined to townlean is Epi, and that's not strong enough for me to really object. I thought his abrasiveness about the setup and comment about ruining the game if we eliminated mafia d1 leaned town. Zenon I have mixed feelings on - I townleaned the same confidence that you got pinged by, but I have paranoia that she doesn't actually care about her reads as much as other games. I don't have a real feel on Pyxxy or Porscha yet, and Michelle could very well be scum. I looked at her ISO and she seems more agreeable and having less fire than I would expect. Like her reaction of doubting your alignment felt tame and noncommittal.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:31 pm Zenon
Pyxxy
Falcon
Porscha
Epi
Michelle

I welcome explanations as to why the above six players are town, from not them.

I have a fairly confident town read on Falcon. Part of it was him calling tutuu's meme game off because the pic didn't match her description. That's the kind of nitpicky paranoia I think comes way more often from town. Same with him talking about the details with Kate's vegetable list. Even though that one isn't entirely serious, imo it still shows Falcon cares about looking for things that seem off. I think his willingness to sling mud and engage with the thread also leans towny.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:40 pm Guys I think Tutuu is town can you please unvote her.

@Kate @falcon45ca @DrWilgy @Dubz @RondoDimBuckle

Nice timing.

Actually, I will take this into consideration and look closer at your PoE. I thought your post about not wanting to react emotionally was towny.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:51 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:50 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:48 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:47 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:46 pm i saw avocado first place s tier and i stopped reading

typical white girl haiyaaaaaaaaa....
Avocado is a fruit.
probably yeah

THUNAL IS STILL A TYPICAL WHITE GIRL SHE ORDERS PUMPKIN SPICE LATTE EVERY DAY
Oh no ffs. Thunal say it isn't so.
@Thunal33 put on ur Ugg boots we going to starbucks sis ...

You caught me. I am a white girl who owns Uggs and goes to Starbucks occasionally.

At least I got to catch you as scum in this game.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:48 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:47 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:46 pm i saw avocado first place s tier and i stopped reading

typical white girl haiyaaaaaaaaa....
Avocado is a fruit.
probably yeah

THUNAL IS STILL A TYPICAL WHITE GIRL SHE ORDERS PUMPKIN SPICE LATTE EVERY DAY

noooooo I order smartfood popcorn and smart water so I get smart and kill the scum. Fear me.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:29 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:25 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:12 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:09 pm why dennis? Its pretty straight forward, she had 3 options she chose to take the lowest odd play and call me a mafia. I want to know if she has any actual thoughts behind it or if she is flinging mud. Why would it be a really weird post to follow up on that from my perspective?
omg nerdie i wasnt literally saying mafia excluding the purple guys i was just using it as synonym for evil we dont play with purple guys erryday. and i said evil coz i was agreeing with kate's post that ur post was odd so why would i say town
I don't think I said that. I think Dennis did.
u said rondo's post about threatening thunal to better vote me at eod was odd

I didn't see it as a threat tbh, I saw it as that it would be noted in a suspicious way.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:09 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:07 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:55 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:54 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:50 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:48 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:38 pm

if you're not on tutuu at EOD this will be noted
See now I don't get this, if no.one has bts how could her voting Dennis show anything about her alignment?
rondo could be maf but i suck at reading him so ill hold
rondo could be town but i suck at reading him so ill hold
rondo could be 3p but i suck at reading him so ill hold

3 ways you could have phrased that but you chose the 1/21 option or the 4.8% option, not the 7/21 option or the 33% option. OR the 13/21 option or the 62% option.

Why?
i need a drink
mood

This is a really weird post from Rondo
why dennis? Its pretty straight forward, she had 3 options she chose to take the lowest odd play and call me a mafia. I want to know if she has any actual thoughts behind it or if she is flinging mud. Why would it be a really weird post to follow up on that from my perspective?

You're trending up for me and my initial vote on you was both the scummiest read I had at the time and part mudslinging. As far as Dennis, I wanted to get him to act. I felt like he was holding back in his early posts and I wanted to put some pressure on him so he could react and have readable content that way.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:21 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:10 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:04 pm
Why has epi been so quiet?

What am I supposed to be hunting right now? A one in a twenty-one chance, right?

I'm voting your mom or throwing dice, and that's if I can be bothered to get up and find any dice.
I dunno. It's just unnerving how you haven't said much, when I feel like you're always pushing people
I admire your youthful ambition and wish I had anything of the sort. I did once, but now I'm a husk of an old man playing silly games on the Internet.

What are you looking for today in a lynch candidate?

Kind, funny, and enjoys long walks to the guillotine.

I was shocked when I had 7 notifications but then I saw most of them were about vegetables.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:03 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:14 am Epi civ, Thunal sin, Mac virtue, tutuu massive sinner, DOOM virtue, zenon leaning sin, Kate the one scum, Dubz leaning sin, Scotty leaning host

ttyl
Explain the epignosis townread please
grumpy + ignorant to the setup while talking to dubz who practically spilled setup chili all over the thread carpet

might revise to "not special" but for now, civ

What does "not special" mean in this setup?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:37 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:32 pm Top 10 best vegetables:
https://www.thetoptens.com/food/best-vegetables/

1. Potatoes
2. Corn
3. Broccoli
4. Lettuce
5. Carrots
6. Onions
7. Peas
8. Spinach
9. Cauliflower
10. Peppers
tierlist go

https://tiermaker.com/create/vegetables ... led-504237

I still suspect tutuu but I want to put pressure elsewhere instead of my vote sleeping on the runaway wagon.

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Dubz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:30 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:29 pm Ngl I have some tinfoil that Mac is the one mafia and he was openwolfing like he did in champs so he gets to rub it in our faces after the game.
Damn maybe we should kill him then. Gotta nuke it from orbit to be sure.

The best way to catch good players is to tunnel them every game. Some of the time you're right.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:29 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:23 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:14 am Epi civ, Thunal sin, Mac virtue, tutuu massive sinner, DOOM virtue, zenon leaning sin, Kate the one scum, Dubz leaning sin, Scotty leaning host

ttyl
This list is very bad

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:24 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:41 am im on PC I CAN DO COLORS

I FORGOT MY READS LOL LET ME ISO MYSELF

Jack porscha epi thunal doom michelle

Mac Zenon falcon Dubz
This list is also very bad
What's a good list

Top 10 best vegetables:
https://www.thetoptens.com/food/best-vegetables/

1. Potatoes
2. Corn
3. Broccoli
4. Lettuce
5. Carrots
6. Onions
7. Peas
8. Spinach
9. Cauliflower
10. Peppers

Ngl I have some tinfoil that Mac is the one mafia and he was openwolfing like he did in champs so he gets to rub it in our faces after the game.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:29 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:45 pm I'm pretty confident Michelle is not town.
How come? Your poe is almost all people I thought were towny. Especially me. (Except porscha bc I have never gotten an accurate read on her).
I kinda don't trust that Mac's reads list is real. Mainly cause he's supposedly town reading me and that doesn't seem right lol.

Actually, why wouldn't that seem right?

Dennis is below null for me. So far he feels like he's holding back with his takes which would make sense if he's scum in a game with Kate.

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