I don't recall any progression on that read, either.
Something something progression cases are bad, thanks c4, leave me alone.
Paying attention to such a thing is admittedly towny, but this post came after alexa's read, not before it.
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I don't recall any progression on that read, either.
Paying attention to such a thing is admittedly towny, but this post came after alexa's read, not before it.
Alexa's progression on many of these reads is odd to me.
This actually isn't terrible.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:05 am Currently in Esooa/Wiml/TSP/Nanook right now.
Pending stuff from Wiml.
Why does Coke want towncred from someone when they don't know that person's alignment? It really reads like appeasing a villager. I know this was a joke, but.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:53 pmIs there a deadline to this? If I call Mac mafia too late do I get no towncred?Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:52 pmIt's a good read. If Mac is scummy and people call him out as scum, they are likely to be town.alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:51 pmoh maybe i spoke too soonTranscend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:50 pmparticularly thisTranscend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:49 pmok this kinda sucksAlison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:47 pmI think Alexa is townie. EnderWiggin is null which might actually be concerning because he usually makes a big splash when he is town. I have been on board with Esooa and Nanook's reads of Mac and I don't think he's a target they would try to either misexe or bus if they were scum which means they are most likely town. LC as explained is self resolving. I think Transcend is slightly scummy because I don't understand any of his reads, but he seems committed to towncoring me which means he will dig himself into a whole if he is scum attempting a pocket.
but may still be town
Genuinely find this post wolfy because asking about the postcap feels like "how many times do I have to post." Might be a dumb read but idk.
Might have found the post she was nightkilled for?Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:47 pmI think Alexa is townie. EnderWiggin is null which might actually be concerning because he usually makes a big splash when he is town. I have been on board with Esooa and Nanook's reads of Mac and I don't think he's a target they would try to either misexe or bus if they were scum which means they are most likely town. LC as explained is self resolving. I think Transcend is slightly scummy because I don't understand any of his reads, but he seems committed to towncoring me which means he will dig himself into a whole if he is scum attempting a pocket.
I feel like I'm out of the loop on something and not just the posts in this game.
Incredibly good post. No bad faith, no agenda, no opportunism, no OMGUS, actual evaluation of alignment while preaching a point I agree with and find villagery to preach in this situation.ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pmlmaoooAlison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:15 pmNo, which was why I didn't call it hedgey. I called another of your posts hedgey.
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
Are you having fun reading this or? Any opinions?
I totally don't hold this opinion because of what happened to Esooa in DragonVale over on MU.Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:39 am I mean, I'm reading the posts in real-time as well, so technically I did read something from today?
This is also why I asked if I was the default yeet today, because if the answer is yes, then I'm not going to bother. Backreading a game as large as this and trying to solve it, only to get yeeted regardless and have my legacy likely forgotten, isn't the most productive use of my time.
Agree. I don't think that's wolfy from Esooa but I do think she should know better, if that makes sense.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:31 pmWhy? There's zero pressure at this phase in the game, wolves don't have any incentive to act.Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:12 pmMy town read on Wiml is because he's a lot more casual than I'd think he would be as a wolf
Not very sure on this one though, but this post is the best example
I'd expect him to be more a more proactive wolf, basically
There's this clash of what makes sense for LC's meta and what doesn't and I can't make sense of it. What is LC's meta, anyway? Do I know them? Some people are calling them a 1/10 wolf, while others like Alison are claiming LC's an obvious villager when they rand V (and that they aren't villagery here), yet there are also some townleans on the slot from people like Alexa. If LC's an obvious villager like, for example, nutella, shouldn't basically everyone who knows them be on the same page here?
Hot take: this post is somewhat unlikely to have been written by someone who killed Alison night 1, unless something changed later in the day.
More villagery nuance of thought from illario. At this point it's becoming consistent, and that's a great look. Moving illario further up the townlist.
Every post alexa writes looks like she's trying to preemptively prevent scumreads on her, like she's pandering to everyone who'd tried to read her so far and/or found her scummy. Her opener was an obvious joke regardless of alignment, but she's actually playing like this all the time and I'm not sure if it's a personality thing anymore. Also, I'm not even sure why she finds this take scummy (or rather, sees potential for it to be considered scummy)? I think it's a somewhat reasonable take, even though it's been proven wrong. Why would she think it's scummy? From a villager POV, she can be correct here, and then it's towny in hindsight, isn't it? This sounds like she already knows she's tying two villagers together.
Lime Coke wants to have good rapport with everyone, but isn't making any actual reads outside of presenting meta analyses that several players in this game already know.
I really hate this rapid read switch. It feels like alexa took advantage of illario's take to shove Transcend into the PoE.
And this looks pockety toward Lime Coke, defending them from Alison, who is also the night 1 kill.
Exactly. This progression reads like "don't look at Lime Coke for (whatever reason), Transcend might be a wolf instead, illario said so too."
How? The last part is slightly villagery, but not really something I'd say a wolf couldn't write. It's wolfer if LC's W, but nothing significant.alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pmthis feels like a villagery thought as wellEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.
But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv
I'm not a hyperposter, so you probably won't get 100.
Especially the bolded parts are super villagery because of their perspective.ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:12 pmThis was the quote btw
looking back It’s not as bad as I initially remembered, but at the time I felt like your response was very sassy here in a way that didn’t align with the tone from the rest of your posts where you seemed more relaxed and jovial. It just felt out of place at the time. In the context of you being annoyed by building pressure, then I suppose I can imagine why you would feel this way? But yeah at the time I wasn’t even aware you were being voted. Also you tend to give lots of snap reads like essoa did just there so I wasn’t getting why you were so bothered when someone else had done it.
The other thing I didn’t like was when you were saying that brad was reading you better than me. I mean that could be true, but It felt like you were trying to guilt trip (?) me into changing my read on you at the time. That’s what I meant when I said ur reaction felt preemptive since it was only 3 pages in and I made the read after a very quick 5 minute skim, so imo it shouldn’t be that much weigh so ur reaction to it confused me. That and the fact that you know that I tend to change my reads a LOT throughout the game.
That explains a bit, it's NAI for Lime Coke though because I assume this player has experience with her. Unless the entire thing is a lie, but several players here should be able to call that out if it were so, and I don't think anyone did? I assume people would be talking about this if they did.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:20 pmI've explained 1 thing about her meta, when she's going to certain people (Illario, Esooa to an extent this game) trying to get them to townread her it's typically in her town meta. She works extremely hard on getting townread early and then solves. People have called it LAMIST but that's just what she does.Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:15 pm due to my ridiculously high scum flip ratio idek if i've played as town with either ilario or alexa so this would be my first time sorting them in a forum setting lol
i've specced games w/ both of them as scum and they usually make it p deep if not endgame
She'll use her vote multiple times but it's gonna be hard to track with this site. She's been verbally saying her votes though so basically treat it like EM forum games.
There's a few other things. Like, I've found her as town quickly in numerous games. She's not a hard town to find.
The continued self-awareness is killing me, but I'm starting to think it's a personality thing and not AI.alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:47 pm ah, makes sense
well i will say the games that illario has read me the most uncharitably have been his scum games historically. if i were him i wouldn't take the approach toward me right out of the gate as wolf so i'm a bit hesitant to call him scum, in my gut i actually feel he may be town because i kept expecting him to not townread me immediately in a game (and he doesn't always but he never has outed a SR me on this except when he was scum), and i feel like i'm approaching this game similarly as i would as wolf so i could see it, but in addition to what brad's saying i can't townread him yet
The conglomeration of emotions here actually feels quite villagery, to be fair.alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:35 pmit's whatever.
this happens at the start of every single game i'm used to it by now
all i can say if i'm town, im p sure brad and esooa are town so if you're town too, this game shouldn't be that difficult and you should know i do really badly with pressure (i was literally so excited for this game because it's been days since i played and i had this thing in my mind that i was going to be completely reformed then the second it starts i feel myself just falling back into old habits of getting emotional when matt first voted me even tho it was rvs i need to play under an alt for real) , but yeah i know i start off games terribly but the pressure makes it really harder for me
And I assume if LC flips V then we're re-evaluating tomorrow, and if LC flips W then we're finding the partner?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:28 amso basically i'm town alexa and ilario are hard townclearing each other and nanook well we're calling him towny today for reasons (nobody can read nanook but i think it's a good reason)Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:19 amIf LC's a wolf then lolme townreading him already when I didn't know they were outed (?)TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:17 am fwiw if you're town you should vote for LC because nanook /will/ (probably) hammer and if you're town that's like ~always~ a hit
if you're a wolf you should do it too but idk
How are they outed and how does it relate to me being town?
so like
numbers
But?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:26 amyeah butVulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:25 amEngaging the alexa tunnel, this feels very performative in response to a read made within the first 3 pages of the game.alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:06 pmi am confirmed townEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:05 pm Alexa with the two early scumreads.
Let's see if she can turn this around cotton.
if i was wolf literally no one would scumread me i am a good wolf
Engaging the alexa tunnel, this feels very performative in response to a read made within the first 3 pages of the game.alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:06 pmi am confirmed townEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:05 pm Alexa with the two early scumreads.
Let's see if she can turn this around cotton.
if i was wolf literally no one would scumread me i am a good wolf
If I don't have a solid reason not to vote LC by EoD, I'll vote LC and blame the other villagers if it flips V.ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:21 am
LOLLLL
Oh btw to fill u in quickly, your slot has been in contention to be voted out on most days. If I had to take a gambit on who I thought today’s wagons would come down to by eod it would probably be your slot vs LCs
If LC's a wolf then lolme townreading him already when I didn't know they were outed (?)TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:17 am fwiw if you're town you should vote for LC because nanook /will/ (probably) hammer and if you're town that's like ~always~ a hit
if you're a wolf you should do it too but idk
Oh, so that's the situation.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:11 ami agree tbh and said as much whenever ago but Alexa was reevaluating on lime (don't know how that's going)NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:54 am Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo
So yeah I say we hammer and go from there
I'm not seeing where she's getting that from. I know it's gut, but still.
It feels like Lime Coke is just agreeing with everything alexa is saying, no matter what it is. And sure, Lime has a townread on alexa already at this point, but the complete and utter agreeability is... odd. Especially since I don't even find alexa towny judging by her posts until then.
…Sure. Kinda villagery? The mindset presented isn't something I see wolves fake very often, because it's dumb and wolves ~usually~ don't want to sound dumb.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:41 pmYes, and everyone that is townreading you that's not me has TMI.
I will then tunnel those individuals, and then complain about them once they flip town and take 0 blame.
Then proceed to lead town into an L.
I dislike the phrasing "my hedgy thought" for the self-awareness. Also, who's Matt?alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:52 pm My hedgy thought coming into the game was basically that Matt is town for the energy (I know he was worried about wolfing against this table and I know the last time I wolfed with him he was nervous AF) but also he’s a very capable wolf and not out of his wolf range so I’m nervous to out a read there until he says more, I enjoyed his entrance though
Town.
Town.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:08 pm Sup boyos I'm the jester and I'm here to troll the shit out of this game
Town x2.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:09 pm No hammer on d1 so I'll see you lot at eod where ill naked vote mafia (hopefully)
I probably would’ve voted him for this opener if it wasn’t my slot. The slot’s town, by the way.
I know this is like, 105 pages back, but.