The Syndicate

They better pitch low and inside. I want action

Rondo and HK already at the pitchers mount. I'm taking 1st

Lean town team on that hot take. Guess there's a world where dolby is wolf, but I'm not going down that road yet, and won't explore it until I really have to.

Oh nice. D1 VC added to OP

DDF, Sloon, Nook and Creature voted Werewolf.

Seems brazen to all pile on, but WIFOM blahblahblah something something
Never know

Dolby wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:35 pm I’d be willing to vote Nanook or creature tbh

Just

Wagons

I'm good with either. I'm suspicious of creatures vote there being a distancing act. Would be interesting to see what happens if we can get that wagon tied up to DDL.

DDL's spew posting yesterday was really weird. Not sure how to digest it because I dont know the player, but it didn't really read like frustrated town to me, more flailing wolf, but I'm not totally sure.

[VOTE: ] aubergine

Dolby wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:27 pm Yeah sure

I am ngl I am just… meh to the ddl stuff, he’s just w/e

I do however think that Michelle’s death could mean that there are scum among those who professed doubt towards her. That’s like, Rondo and Nanook I think idk I’ll backread later

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Yeah the nook lean is why I asked falc about how big a pain in the butt Michelle is. Touched on that a but earlier [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Can we get a good counter wagon going to DDL?

I'm fine to sheep on the sloon reads and vote there, I'm scum reading creature, but voting the nook slot could be interesting.
Or people could vote creature with me..

We do need a wagon race though. Without an actual record of votes last NF, we could use some wagon info y'kno

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:25 am Voted Flanders for making me go to horny jail.

Why is DDL the lead wagon in 10 words or less?

Thanks bb

Dolby wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:12 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:43 am No idea why Dolby and falc want this guy dead. Michelle didn't like him either.

Asked falcon if Michelle was the pain in the ass type, because I get the feeling sloon is a stonewall type wolf who will try to use twtbw as an actual wolf tactic when they decide to be lazy.

Wonder what creature's had to say about sloon

Tldr he’s been present without doing anything. Kinda same as Nanook though Nanook also had the push against Michelle which I didn’t like

I was being sarcastic.. my tone is often lost in text

Porscha is here. Hi porscha, wussup?

No idea why Dolby and falc want this guy dead. Michelle didn't like him either.

Asked falcon if Michelle was the pain in the ass type, because I get the feeling sloon is a stonewall type wolf who will try to use twtbw as an actual wolf tactic when they decide to be lazy.

Wonder what creature's had to say about sloon

I don't know about the rest of you, but typically I remember who I townread, and who I'm sheeping.
It's not like last night I was townreading falcon, but now today, I'm only sheeping Dolby's town read.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:30 pm I don't know how I feel right now. I think I only really townread Dolby, Stupid Sexy Flanders and falcon45ca. I'm sponging the Michelle townread.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:26 pm I'm stumped. I know arogame123, DrWilgy and Porscha all have barely posted anything to be decently read. So that leaves 9 readable players out of 12 and it feels like we're trying to tell how many wolves are within those 9 readable players (between 0-3).

I believe Dolby is town. I'm sponging his townread on Stupid Sexy Flanders. I believe falcon45ca to be town for now. I'm tempted to lean RondoDimBuckle for their twilight rebel posting. I know I'm town. So that leaves Dragon D. Luffy, hollowkatt, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME and Sloonei.

So yesterday you were townread me and "sponged michelle", now you're just sponging Dolby tr.

I don't like this inconsistency, reads like you're gonna sponge me dead next.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:15 pm [VOTE: Sloon] aubergine

Hey, so is Michelle a BJ type pain in ass when you're mafia type?

Sure
[VOTE: sloon] aubergine

Falc pulling the Kaiser Souzai?

Classic. What a motherfucker

Give falc his 30cents?

Couldn't even begin to count my dues for "Dirty Birds Theory". Could retire on that payout

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:19 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:45 pm ADVANCED ANALYTICS FAIL TO ACCOUNT FOR INTANGIBLES AND NEED TO COMPLIMENTED BY THE GOOD OL FASHION EYE TEST.

Canucks fans know this better than anyone.




I'd like your thoughts on Sloon, HK & Rondo plz

Kill em all and let your god sort em

Guess I'd keep HK around because I vaguely remember them posting stuff.

Sorry for yelling.

ADVANCED ANALYTICS FAIL TO ACCOUNT FOR INTANGIBLES AND NEED TO COMPLIMENTED BY THE GOOD OL FASHION EYE TEST.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:09 pm I'm just explaining how I made my mafia meta look like my town meta.

Because people (who don't know my town meta) are saying i'm a wolf because I'm looking like my scum meta rn.

Guess you're in quite the jam then eh.

Four votes on Dragon and they throw in the towel. Gg

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:03 pm My timeline of playstyle goes like this.

2014: DDL starts playing mafia at Naruto Forums.
2014: DDL has a really great start partly because NF is full of potatoes playing mafia. He gains confidence as a townie and starts calling people scum early and strongly. Though he still sucks as scum.
2015: DDL joins the Syndicate.
2015/16: DDL loses 10 consecutive games in a row in the Syndicate mostly as town. His confidence takes a permanent blow.
2017: DDL does some soul searching and realizes he just can't read people so he adopts a position of always double checking himself, which to this day he still has. he starts winning games at Syndicate.
2017/2018: DDL starts understanding what about his town meta makes people like him when they do, and learns to mimic it as scum. He also realizes his new town playstyle of self-doubt is also really useful for a scum playstyle. He starts winning wolf games at NF, and one year later, at the Syndicate.

I don't get it. Confession?

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:19 pm Did anyone record the vc from d1?

Sorry, posted last before reading new posts.

There's no actual link to previous VCs?

Where do I find the D1 VC?

No I'm definitely voting creature again.

Lots of null. Lots and lots of null

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:07 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:45 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:40 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:37 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:03 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:57 pm

I mean yeah, how people react when pushed, how pushers react when pushed back on, how people address mech questions, which is one of the reasons I like Dolby.

Judging reactions is all meta reads though. Players all react differently to being being pushed. Also if you're aware of your meta, to either hide, or ignore, or omgus, or whatever that typical reaction is, it's really easy to just do the opposite.
My home community is pretty small though, and we're brutally cruel to each other.
Speaking of, what's @falcon45ca doing?

Kinda quiet bud. S'up?

I am not quiet, I am hungover.



It's quite loud inside my brain right now

:huggybear:

Never fear, I know the remedy!



I keep a bottle of Jack Daniel's around for just such an emergency

Oof straight to the jack eh.. gah.
I'm a morning ceasar guy, jack would make me hurl for sure.

You're an animal

I am a man of refined & discerning taste when it comes to alcohol.



Basically if it's not gasoline, I'm good to go.



Got some reads bruv?

Nothing substantial. Creature's entrance felt off, picked up on that, and there was some beef between you yoo as well.. can't say it's very memorable.
Interesting though, I shook the ol SS "kill the slankers" tree last night, and it looked to me like creature bit and ran the hardest with it. Votes were tied at the time, so it looks kinda sus to me. I'm ok to leave my vote on him them.

Haven't played in a while so I'm a little slow on the uptake rn and have forgot how to play my angles to some extent. Not being familiar with the roster is making it difficult to trust other reads rn. Finding myself a bit paranoid. Kinda feel like dolby could be deep wolfing as their play hasn't really challenged any players, but high activity and appears to be towning, but not really a hunter per se.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:45 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:40 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:37 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:03 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:57 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:22 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:19 pm

cause I don't think he's a wolf.

but really it's just tone and overall vibe

Outside of tone and overall vibe, is there really ever anything to go off D1? Outside of a hard line meta read of course.

On my homesite we rely on meta too much imo, especially early. But some guys just can't escape who they are and how they react no matter how many times they've been busted.

I mean yeah, how people react when pushed, how pushers react when pushed back on, how people address mech questions, which is one of the reasons I like Dolby.

Judging reactions is all meta reads though. Players all react differently to being being pushed. Also if you're aware of your meta, to either hide, or ignore, or omgus, or whatever that typical reaction is, it's really easy to just do the opposite.
My home community is pretty small though, and we're brutally cruel to each other.
Speaking of, what's @falcon45ca doing?

Kinda quiet bud. S'up?

I am not quiet, I am hungover.



It's quite loud inside my brain right now

:huggybear:

Never fear, I know the remedy!



I keep a bottle of Jack Daniel's around for just such an emergency

Oof straight to the jack eh.. gah.
I'm a morning ceasar guy, jack would make me hurl for sure.

You're an animal

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:37 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:03 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:57 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:22 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:19 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:14 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 10:50 pm I think creature is town

why

cause I don't think he's a wolf.

but really it's just tone and overall vibe

Outside of tone and overall vibe, is there really ever anything to go off D1? Outside of a hard line meta read of course.

On my homesite we rely on meta too much imo, especially early. But some guys just can't escape who they are and how they react no matter how many times they've been busted.

I mean yeah, how people react when pushed, how pushers react when pushed back on, how people address mech questions, which is one of the reasons I like Dolby.

Judging reactions is all meta reads though. Players all react differently to being being pushed. Also if you're aware of your meta, to either hide, or ignore, or omgus, or whatever that typical reaction is, it's really easy to just do the opposite.
My home community is pretty small though, and we're brutally cruel to each other.
Speaking of, what's @falcon45ca doing?

Kinda quiet bud. S'up?

I am not quiet, I am hungover.



It's quite loud inside my brain right now

:huggybear:

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:57 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:22 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:19 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:14 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 10:50 pm I think creature is town

why

cause I don't think he's a wolf.

but really it's just tone and overall vibe

Outside of tone and overall vibe, is there really ever anything to go off D1? Outside of a hard line meta read of course.

On my homesite we rely on meta too much imo, especially early. But some guys just can't escape who they are and how they react no matter how many times they've been busted.

I mean yeah, how people react when pushed, how pushers react when pushed back on, how people address mech questions, which is one of the reasons I like Dolby.

Judging reactions is all meta reads though. Players all react differently to being being pushed. Also if you're aware of your meta, to either hide, or ignore, or omgus, or whatever that typical reaction is, it's really easy to just do the opposite.
My home community is pretty small though, and we're brutally cruel to each other.
Speaking of, what's @falcon45ca doing?

Kinda quiet bud. S'up?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:02 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:51 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 pm Like yeah if the host doesn't modkill inactives we probably have to yeet them (though vigging is WAY better for them). But if the host is not modkilling inactives, the game itself has a bigger issue.

Agreed, ideally a vig (on host) takes care of the dead weight. I don't see a vig in the setup, or a min post requirement.

There are vig items but they seem expensive.

Oh yeah.. hm. I skimmed the night store items, guess I didnt read closely enough.
Guess we should all just shhh about what was or wasn't purchased

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 pm Like yeah if the host doesn't modkill inactives we probably have to yeet them (though vigging is WAY better for them). But if the host is not modkilling inactives, the game itself has a bigger issue.

Agreed, ideally a vig (on host) takes care of the dead weight. I don't see a vig in the setup, or a min post requirement.

Was most interested in getting info on the zero posters, as opposed to running one down rn. Interesting that creature kinda jumped onto it as a push at one rn, when the big picture for me (at least) was getting help to identify which of the slankers are operating within their town meta, and those that aren't.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:52 am

Alignments of characters will be randomized, and mafia will receive cover roles.

This seems important.

Also

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:16 am

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:45 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am

Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm

Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?

No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.

Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it

Zero actives need to be resolved one way or another, and in a game without town specials, it's not a huge loss to potentially mischop early if a player has a history of being a useless townie / slanker.

Michelle, out of all the inactives right now - who has the least potential to be at all useful?

You want me to guess whom from the zero posters can be useful?
I honestly can't figure.

So you'd say the entire heap of slankers are useless townies even at the best of times?

No sir, what I want to say is that they can't be all wolves and chopping them at random is not a good tactic.
They are not town for me, but they are not scum either.

I would prefer an analysis between the actives

You dodged the question, I was asking about the players themselves.

Do you find them (the slankers) to be helpful townies when they're engaged in the game, or are they just net zero no matter when they actually need to be solved?

I'm asking because I don't know the players on this site, and insight from people who actually play here is valuable to me

RUDE

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:16 am

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:45 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am

Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:10 pm I think DrWilgy not posting anything so far surprises me the most. WerewolfHunter is a resident slanker and the other two slanking names (arogame123 and Rondo) I have no idea who they are.

Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?

No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.

Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it

Zero actives need to be resolved one way or another, and in a game without town specials, it's not a huge loss to potentially mischop early if a player has a history of being a useless townie / slanker.

Michelle, out of all the inactives right now - who has the least potential to be at all useful?

You want me to guess whom from the zero posters can be useful?
I honestly can't figure.

So you'd say the entire heap of slankers are useless townies even at the best of times?

If I wasnt new here I'd probably push something super reckless just to test the slank pool.

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:04 am it's basically just killing people for a lack of activity, and are they ~rand and i don't like that and that's the last ill say on the matter. I'd rather just yeet the most sus active poster

That's fine for now, I'm just posing the dilemma though. In a 14er we should expect 3, maybe 4 mafia. A really easy place to hide is in the inactives if you've got a few useless townies who always slank in there. Let town eat itself then cop some bs "I've been busy" bs once stronger town players have been MK'd and chopped, then steer the town right off a cliff.
It happens on my home site fairly often.

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:54 am i dont believe in chopping 0 posters on principle

What principle is this? I don't see a min posting requirement in the OP. would you be ok to let zero posters coast to F5 after countless town mislynches?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am

Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:10 pm I think DrWilgy not posting anything so far surprises me the most. WerewolfHunter is a resident slanker and the other two slanking names (arogame123 and Rondo) I have no idea who they are.

Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?

No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.

Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it

Zero actives need to be resolved one way or another, and in a game without town specials, it's not a huge loss to potentially mischop early if a player has a history of being a useless townie / slanker.

Michelle, out of all the inactives right now - who has the least potential to be at all useful?

Oh crap, I just read the night store stuff for the first time.

Why?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:19 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:14 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 10:50 pm I think creature is town

why

cause I don't think he's a wolf.

but really it's just tone and overall vibe

Outside of tone and overall vibe, is there really ever anything to go off D1? Outside of a hard line meta read of course.

On my homesite we rely on meta too much imo, especially early. But some guys just can't escape who they are and how they react no matter how many times they've been busted.

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:27 pm I think "sloonei I'll assume is town" is a really lazy read and not all lazy reads come from mafia but I also dislike the michelle vote, I persnoally think she's town but I recognize sample size (postcount) is small.

do you think Michelle v?

Also creature, where do you think that SSF was solving? not to diss him but calling me and michelle town is kinda the expected thing to be done in the game

Whoa now, don't get ahead of yourself. I put Michelle as a lean solely based on her tone, and for you it revolves around good intent at explaining mech, but I did say I dont like focus on mech and wanted to see you explore the game more. Mech focus is an easy way blend.

That said, as far as the real meat of the game goes, your presence is known, feels pretty natural and honest. However you seem to be asking a lot of questions of everyone, but not offering much for me to bite into and think about.
It's early game, I know one player here and have no meta reads on anyone but falc. I touched on that a bit earlier.. I'm null on him atm. There's good stuff - light, breezy, seems comfy, and cracking jokes. And other stuff I'm unsure how to read - his lack of teeth, hasn't really rattled any cages.. but it is early and I have to be careful about expecting too much from the my boy. I've built little boxes for him before, he didn't fit in, but was still town.

Well I understand this much: we have 24hrs before voting closes. Unless I'm even more stupid than my name would indicate.
Also, not my fault we lost. The ump was brutal. Just sayin

For calling themselves warewolfhunter and doing absolutely no hunting. SIRENS

Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:05 pm It's a bit hard to tell the gamestate when four players haven't posted yet.

Suggesting hammering slankers eh... not a bad play considering I don't think we have town specials.

Le sad

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 6:40 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 6:38 pm We want a pitcher
Not a belly itcher

you're literally pitching rn lol

We want a batter
not a broken ladder

I KNOWWWW
FLANDERS IN SHAMBLES

We want a pitcher
Not a belly itcher

Cmon ump! Get some glasses ya blind fool