The Syndicate

i skimmed seanzie's ISO overnight and came away feeling negatively about both cape and pyxxy

what gives me pause about the cape association is that cape gave a spirited go at directing attention away from seanzie, but seanzie gave up rather quickly after engaging with me, all the while another wolf elected to stay out of it

i feel it's more likely that seanzie was either bussed or ignored, and the other wolves didn't try to save him

pyxxy/jaiden feels level 0 but also maybe correct

@katze poll is closed nerd

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:06 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:04 pm pyxxy/jaiden feels level 0 but also maybe correct
off the top of my head i don't think it's pyxxy tbh

ok so who

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:07 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:06 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:04 pm pyxxy/jaiden feels level 0 but also maybe correct
off the top of my head i don't think it's pyxxy tbh
ok so who
falcon

would wolf!falcon give his vote to me, put it onto his partner, and then bail the rest of the phase?

pleasure doing business with you, sheep

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:22 pm Syn passed the test and is now in towncore, congrats

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:25 pm Well, did you see Syn going on falcon when he was handed the vote off?

I sure did not

couldn't seanzie/falcon/me just be w/w/w and I saved the one who wasn't basically mechanically outed

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:42 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:39 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:37 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:25 pm Well, did you see Syn going on falcon when he was handed the vote off?

I sure did not
couldn't seanzie/falcon/me just be w/w/w and I saved the one who wasn't basically mechanically outed
wait seanzie was mech outed
why did nobody tell me
actually tho

are you fr

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:50 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:48 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:42 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:39 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:37 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:25 pm Well, did you see Syn going on falcon when he was handed the vote off?

I sure did not
couldn't seanzie/falcon/me just be w/w/w and I saved the one who wasn't basically mechanically outed
wait seanzie was mech outed
why did nobody tell me
actually tho
are you fr
yes

this means you outright ignored like 70% of D3's posts

but also I know you're lying

Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:37 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:29 pm new logical recipe just dropped:

Sheep wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:45 pm mm
i'll just sheep porscha for now because I have a rather annoying lack of wolfreasd atm
plus

Sheep wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:04 pm Just so you all know me & Porscha are currently frozen and crying in wolfchat because syn has caught us
=

Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:24 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:00 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:53 am Regardless of Porscha's read on Falcon and whether I believe it or not (I think I do).

I still want to pressure him into getting into the game more involved like. And that's why I'm voting that over anyone else rn.

I'm also interested in seeing what Jaiden Underwood has to say about this game. Perhaps it can sanity check me on their alignment since idk
Here is the deal I tutuu. If you truly believe tutuu was aware of neons softs, which I think is a good catch on your part, then the wolves would have directly killed neon last night. And if neon was for sure the doctor, there would have only been 1 kill no matter who neon went on. So I'm of the belief that you think the wolves did not know who wolf was and therefore tutuu is not a wolf, unless, and only unless, you are willing to consider rondo was the actual doctor who went on sean and neon was the standard nk. So let me know how you feel about that
Rondo explicitly said he wasn't going on me. You are full of agenda.

I am really starting to think it is either Rondo!Doc ->Porscha!wolf or Neon!Doc -> Porscha!clear as others have said, and yeah... this is really fustrating.
Do you have any read on porscha?
(emphasis mine)

um?

@Sheep What was the purpose of this question? Was it mostly to get Seanzie's view, or are you wavering on your town lock Porscha read?
??
I think if you're like "this person could either be mechanically confirmed town or wolf" it's probably best to like form a read on that person and have that influence it somewhat instead of just trying to solve mech

especially when that player isn't somebody who's been historically super hard to read.

I'd personally much rather lose because I actually thought porscha was town than because I misread who the doctor is and I'd asssume the same for seanzie.

not 100% sure if i made this clear

Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:24 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:00 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:53 am Regardless of Porscha's read on Falcon and whether I believe it or not (I think I do).

I still want to pressure him into getting into the game more involved like. And that's why I'm voting that over anyone else rn.

I'm also interested in seeing what Jaiden Underwood has to say about this game. Perhaps it can sanity check me on their alignment since idk
Here is the deal I tutuu. If you truly believe tutuu was aware of neons softs, which I think is a good catch on your part, then the wolves would have directly killed neon last night. And if neon was for sure the doctor, there would have only been 1 kill no matter who neon went on. So I'm of the belief that you think the wolves did not know who wolf was and therefore tutuu is not a wolf, unless, and only unless, you are willing to consider rondo was the actual doctor who went on sean and neon was the standard nk. So let me know how you feel about that
Rondo explicitly said he wasn't going on me. You are full of agenda.

I am really starting to think it is either Rondo!Doc ->Porscha!wolf or Neon!Doc -> Porscha!clear as others have said, and yeah... this is really fustrating.
Do you have any read on porscha?

sheep these posts are so gross

Sheep wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:03 am
Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:59 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:57 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:46 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:26 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:54 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:40 pm nice wagons tbh
like
jaiden's not getting voted today because just subbed in (unless they start openwolving)
falcon's not getting voted today because this isn't the time in-game to hang somebody of that postcount

my wagon best obv

the other 3 I'd say like lucy>syn>seanzie in order of towniness but i don't wolfread any of 'em so that's kinda a problem this might fix unless you guys CFD jaiden underwood and hammer
hello sheep i would like to inform you that this reads list leaves a POE of sheep, cape, and pyxxy
oh no
(tbh idk why you associate "not getting voted today" with me not thinking they're a wolf)
generally speaking it is very cool to chop people you think are wolf
I mean yeah

in thos specific cases it was more of a thread read tbh

but also I feel like there's sometimes a diference between the two in general idk how to describe it
idk how to explain this
and not just because i don't have a lot of wolfreads

but like while votes can go with a wolfread you can still wolread somebody who you're not voting, or vote somebody who you're not wolfreading ig

I mean idk how to explain this to myself so i doubt i'll convey it to ya'll

the above, plus: ignoring the mech talk, asking people about reading porscha independent of mech, trying to tie up wagons at EOD because of "DADV" and "boring," constantly hedging his reads and mostly trying to pressure/chop slots that won't/can't defend themselves

does wolf!sheep flounder like this after waking up into a day where a wolf partner is afk/subbed and seanzie is sunk by lucky mech play?

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:28 pm jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

no they don't

why would you ISO cape and make a bunch of hem-hawing posts about "people misreading cape but idk he's probably town ig" when you're now admitting you simply did not read most of D3?

why were you asking pyxxy and seanzie questions about what was happening if you didn't know what was happening?

you say that you aren't hedging your reads but in the process of putting together a POE of three, the list you came up with had to include yourself because "idk i just don't wolf read anyone"

when pushed to go somewhere, you say pyxxy (but avoid actually pushing them) or fall back on the trusty falcon push

Jaiden Underwood wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:33 pm the moment someone starts hitting the "????" they are either the main character or just scum
and idk sheep aint looking like the main character to me

someone made this read about rask lol (he was town)

maybe rask was the main character........

Jaiden Underwood wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:34 pm i have a feeling my more esoteric reads wont be appreciated here very much

fuck it we ball

Jaiden Underwood wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:38 pm hey syn youre not just scum right

probably not

Jaiden Underwood wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:45 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:40 pm
Jaiden Underwood wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:38 pm hey syn youre not just scum right
probably not
youre trying too hard. sorry

thank you chloe very cool

sheep disappears coincidentally when jaiden appears to distract me from cornering sheep

hey babe new POE list just dropped

sheep -> jaiden -> pyxxy -> cape -> falcon -> lucy

Jaiden Underwood wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:33 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:21 pm sheep disappears coincidentally when jaiden appears to distract me from cornering sheep
a coordinated attack to delay pressure on sheep just doesn't make logistic sense, it would pair us pretty easily for barely any benefit
especially when said "distracting" started with me putting more attention on sheep

towny post though. this would be a very confident move which i think would have more volume if you were scum

this never happened btw

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:29 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:30 pm why would you ISO cape and make a bunch of hem-hawing posts about "people misreading cape but idk he's probably town ig" when you're now admitting you simply did not read most of D3?

why were you asking pyxxy and seanzie questions about what was happening if you didn't know what was happening?
because
I read posts where people were saying cape was town
and I didn't think the reasoning provided was very good

I was asking pyxxy & seanzie questions
about things based on what I had read?
?????

asking questions that you expect to be relevant requires awareness of what is going on

you were asking questions pertinent to the thread state

ergo ipso facto wingardium leviosa, you cannot simultaneously claim ignorance of the bulk of D3 while also claiming you were ISOing someone and putting in work questioning players

also can't claim ignorance about mech when you directly quote seanzie talking about mech and ask him about his read on porscha

katze wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:09 am eod2 postcounts

obligatory "200 postcap" reminder

ah yes

cape

the low poster

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:45 pm neon doesn't make sense for a maf kill, rondo was town according to everyone and wasn't in any poe's besides like mine
Neon doc'd sean cuz rondo said that's what he would do if he was doctor
(I just assume she took his advice)
Instead of doc'ing me her lock town read
Works out tho lol

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:48 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:51 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:33 am here is a take

if seanzie is wolf, neon is town
Here is a take we are both town...(maybe)
this post might suggest that neon was going to visit seanzie n2?

idk it's weak

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:45 pm neon doesn't make sense for a maf kill, rondo was town according to everyone and wasn't in any poe's besides like mine
Neon doc'd sean cuz rondo said that's what he would do if he was doctor
(I just assume she took his advice)
Instead of doc'ing me her lock town read
Works out tho lol
this is what i think but i was gonna wait until seanzie posted to say it out loud

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:50 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:45 pm neon doesn't make sense for a maf kill, rondo was town according to everyone and wasn't in any poe's besides like mine
Neon doc'd sean cuz rondo said that's what he would do if he was doctor
(I just assume she took his advice)
Instead of doc'ing me her lock town read
Works out tho lol
my very quick iso of neon seems to support this read

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:54 pm one part of me wants to go seanzie

the other part of me wants to go tutuu/pyxxy because outed wolf seanzie isn't someone i wanna go immediately

we only have 1 Ml to spare, the second and we just lose, and we don't have doctor anymore

(you were in thread and posting while these posts were happening btw)

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:38 pm This push feels weird tbh.

because you're being exposed as a liar after every single reply?

will I be sheep's first certain wolf read except no-poster falcon? purely out of OMGUS?

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:43 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:40 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:38 pm This push feels weird tbh.
because you're being exposed as a liar after every single reply?
No, because you're acting like I'm being exposed when all of my actions are really logical
and so on the one hand if you're town I'd expect you to not be making such a weird push
but also as wolf i wouldn't expect you to be this aggressive

logical is certainly a word one could use

it's not the right word, but it is a word

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:42 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:38 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:45 pm neon doesn't make sense for a maf kill, rondo was town according to everyone and wasn't in any poe's besides like mine
Neon doc'd sean cuz rondo said that's what he would do if he was doctor
(I just assume she took his advice)
Instead of doc'ing me her lock town read
Works out tho lol

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:48 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:51 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:33 am here is a take

if seanzie is wolf, neon is town
Here is a take we are both town...(maybe)
this post might suggest that neon was going to visit seanzie n2?

idk it's weak

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:45 pm neon doesn't make sense for a maf kill, rondo was town according to everyone and wasn't in any poe's besides like mine
Neon doc'd sean cuz rondo said that's what he would do if he was doctor
(I just assume she took his advice)
Instead of doc'ing me her lock town read
Works out tho lol
this is what i think but i was gonna wait until seanzie posted to say it out loud

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:50 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:45 pm neon doesn't make sense for a maf kill, rondo was town according to everyone and wasn't in any poe's besides like mine
Neon doc'd sean cuz rondo said that's what he would do if he was doctor
(I just assume she took his advice)
Instead of doc'ing me her lock town read
Works out tho lol
my very quick iso of neon seems to support this read

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:54 pm one part of me wants to go seanzie

the other part of me wants to go tutuu/pyxxy because outed wolf seanzie isn't someone i wanna go immediately

we only have 1 Ml to spare, the second and we just lose, and we don't have doctor anymore
(you were in thread and posting while these posts were happening btw)
Ah well
I don't remember seeing those posts so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But like
as mafia what am I doing faking not knowing seanzie was outed mafia
1) That EoD
2) You asked "are you serious" giving me an out I could easily have taken and I continued

What do you think I secretly read all of the posts in thread but didn't post about them because ... ???

I don't see why I would do your work for you here, so not answering that lol

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:46 pm Also
since you seem to be chill with me wolfreading there are a few things you haven't done that i'd typically assocaite with "Sheep has been caught in 4K doing MAFIA activities" pushes from town

ah yes, secret hidden tells that are no doubt perfect, trust me bro

nobody is here for me to tell to vote you

also there's still like 36 hours left

WHO IS JAIDEN

oh they joined fol after i stopped playing mafia

ok that makes sense

sorry for calling you katze and chloe (derogatory)

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:06 am hey @Syn

re: your post here
Spoiler: show

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:17 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:03 am
Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:59 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:57 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:46 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:26 pm

hello sheep i would like to inform you that this reads list leaves a POE of sheep, cape, and pyxxy
oh no
(tbh idk why you associate "not getting voted today" with me not thinking they're a wolf)
generally speaking it is very cool to chop people you think are wolf
I mean yeah

in thos specific cases it was more of a thread read tbh

but also I feel like there's sometimes a diference between the two in general idk how to describe it
idk how to explain this
and not just because i don't have a lot of wolfreads

but like while votes can go with a wolfread you can still wolread somebody who you're not voting, or vote somebody who you're not wolfreading ig

I mean idk how to explain this to myself so i doubt i'll convey it to ya'll
the above, plus: ignoring the mech talk, asking people about reading porscha independent of mech, trying to tie up wagons at EOD because of "DADV" and "boring," constantly hedging his reads and mostly trying to pressure/chop slots that won't/can't defend themselves

does wolf!sheep flounder like this after waking up into a day where a wolf partner is afk/subbed and seanzie is sunk by lucky mech play?

cite your sources
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:02 am the solve being seanzie/sheep/tutuu-Jaiden would be kinda wild ngl

I'm willing to entertain this world

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:09 pm I am accepting applications for sweet reads I can sheep

vote jaiden

he's not

nobody is lol

except me uwu xoxo gossip girl

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:55 pm sigh
I'm now pretty sure syn thought i was like
trying to get towncleared by falsely claiming ignorance of seanzie being mech outed

which
I mean
certainly is a theory

I'm not sure how to disprove it atm
uh
like
I wouldn't make that kill as mafia if i'm trying to be towncleared

what is "that kill" meant to refer to here

porscha?

kinda sucks that half the player list has just stopped playing

trying to reduce that quote wall to just what I'm responding to will take forever, so @pyxxy:

@Syn you made a move towards sheep today, I approve of attempting to solve, does this D1 interaction in this spoiler make you feel anything either way?

sheep just asking seanzie about his read on the player in the limelight reminds me of d3 when he did the same thing but about porscha (which you also quoted in your wall)

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:27 am trying to reduce that quote wall to just what I'm responding to will take forever, so @pyxxy:

@Syn you made a move towards sheep today, I approve of attempting to solve, does this D1 interaction in this spoiler make you feel anything either way?
sheep just asking seanzie about his read on the player in the limelight reminds me of d3 when he did the same thing but about porscha (which you also quoted in your wall)

just spent a few minutes skimming sheep's ISO and he only asks this question twice all game, both to seanzie

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:34 am
anyway this all ties into why I said the Sean/Sheep interaction should either clear or condemn Sheep

I do like being town cleared

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:39 am
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:32 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:28 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:26 pm
it's like... you have had static reads all game, have you not felt the need to relook at stuff?
i've read every single post and don't see a reason to change my immediate poe at this time
i think me staying solid on lucy/tutuu/wilgy causing such a venomous backlash again and again and again is a sign I'm on the right path tbh

the sheer vitriol, hostility, constant insults and sussing of me because I'm staying the course *chef's kiss* it's going to be amazing
syn was also displaying no real gusto to suspect seanzie day 2 either from what im seeing

he had made it onto a POE at some point but I never really pursued it afair. it was mech and ISO that made me put all my focus on him

anyway

consider the nk of rondo with the assumption that he was killed to enforce a thread state the wolves thought was guaranteed because of wilgy's dying breath being that lucy and I were a proverbial difference check and rondo and I leading the lucy polarization train. the thread was also quickly turning on neon. everything pointed to town sinking itself in tremendous fashion due to toxicity and ill-placed confidence

they were unlucky that seanzie was implicated by both possible doc options, because he was perfectly positioned to get town cred off of lucy and my's conflict. he spent a good portion of d2 publicly involving himself in it under the guise of mediation but actually prolonging it.

this is why I switched my read dramatically on lucy. i don't think that would be the plan if lucy was a wolf. it wouldn't be great to tie a wolf's fate so closely to someone they know is town. it would make wilgy's prediction true and guarantee the death of one of their own for, at that time, no good reason

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:09 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:09 am chatgpt is coder's best friend man this thing is saving my ass. im literally asking it like im a baby and its explaining to me in plain english how to set up my coding shit. absolute godsend

here to play a bit. responding to old stuff

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:40 am Cape
Pyxxy
Rondo
Sheep

Is my towncore atm

(Please dont ask me to explain it will be very difficult for me)
I'm gonna need you to explain
cape was posting a lot and they were good posts

pyxxy i had a gut townread on due to him being awkward with cape

rondo was just blatantly town by rondoing all over the thread

sheep i had a strong gut feel is town, cant rly explain
Q for the thread:
Does tutuu struggle to scumread people as wolf?

i am realizing now i'm not sure if I've ever seen tutuu wolf

i would probably guess not though.

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