The Syndicate

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:42 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:53 am I have a potentially dangerous townread on lucy. Let me write it out and see how it feels

Lucy has shared that she doesn't have high hopes for this playerlist / doesnt perceive it as too elite (when she thinks im one of the best ones, then we know its completely doomed for us all)

She received mere 3 votes, 19 hours before eod. As a wolf, given that shes not afraid of this town, and given that she doesnt think of herself lowly as a scum player, i am led to believe that she wouldnt crumble under pressure the way wolves do. She should know that self vote + ate is not a safe strategy for survival

Now lets assume shes town. She doesnt have high hopes for the list. She believes she is the only way town can win. She receives votes and scumreads, and players arent playing the way she wants to. Its not so hard to believe that she would turn cynical and think "i will show you peasants for not respecting me" (i want to punish you all). Its not a mindset thats hard to believe. I believe it

I would not put lucy in my towncore as of yet, but i do believe she is town
disagreed
why did you disagree with this Syn? I actually think it's sensible. (++ tutuu/lucy -> heh, I am finally getting something ordered to look at. glgl)

i don't think having a meltdown is generally town indicative

also i started playing mafia in an era of cfc mafia where brutally insulting people personally was the go-to tactic for wolfing, to great success, because people get put on the backpedal and they start second-guessing themselves

also also i frown upon anyone who self-describes as a god. simply no interest in entertaining that

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:20 pm Prior to catch-up read list.

Would yeet:
Pyxxy,
Bereft,
LPP,
Sheep,
Lucy,
Syn,

Of course outcome of these yeets would impact greatly who remains on this list.

since you've said twice now that lucy and I are a difference check, why not join us on lucy, doctor?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:32 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:14 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:42 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:53 am I have a potentially dangerous townread on lucy. Let me write it out and see how it feels

Lucy has shared that she doesn't have high hopes for this playerlist / doesnt perceive it as too elite (when she thinks im one of the best ones, then we know its completely doomed for us all)

She received mere 3 votes, 19 hours before eod. As a wolf, given that shes not afraid of this town, and given that she doesnt think of herself lowly as a scum player, i am led to believe that she wouldnt crumble under pressure the way wolves do. She should know that self vote + ate is not a safe strategy for survival

Now lets assume shes town. She doesnt have high hopes for the list. She believes she is the only way town can win. She receives votes and scumreads, and players arent playing the way she wants to. Its not so hard to believe that she would turn cynical and think "i will show you peasants for not respecting me" (i want to punish you all). Its not a mindset thats hard to believe. I believe it

I would not put lucy in my towncore as of yet, but i do believe she is town
disagreed
why did you disagree with this Syn? I actually think it's sensible. (++ tutuu/lucy -> heh, I am finally getting something ordered to look at. glgl)
i don't think having a meltdown is generally town indicative

also i started playing mafia in an era of cfc mafia where brutally insulting people personally was the go-to tactic for wolfing, to great success, because people get put on the backpedal and they start second-guessing themselves

also also i frown upon anyone who self-describes as a god. simply no interest in entertaining that
OK, but I do think tutuu's perspective of lucy!this game is sound still. It's not about AtEers in general, it's about lucy and tutuu. I do concede this can be ww but I guess less probable is how I feel.

let me get this right:

you agree with my poe of lucy + tutuu + wilgy

you believe lucy and tutuu are unaligned

so you believe lucy and tutuu are independently wolfy, but not together? (this is a fine position, just clarifying)

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:45 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:32 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:28 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:13 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:03 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:54 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:36 pm

giggles.

@Neon what had you done that you thought you were obviously out of wolf range?
honestly, in a way I believe the same thing as Neon, but sometimes I will use TWTBAW in short game scenarios just to describe a vibe moreso then actually calling someone TWTBAW literally... if that makes sense
ok. I wasn't giggling because of Neon's view on TWTBAW fwiw. Moreso because they like to be unreadable and won't do a s!%? to improve the situation (this isn't fair to you Neon, u were obv town in goc ), which would be policed by so many players it's not funny. I mean respect yourself and your wolf range, don't be shy, be townie when u actually rand villa (whatever that means for you).
1. do not talk OGI plz
2. I have an okay wolf range but feel like I am overestimated to how good of a wolf I am
3. It means right now, and I am being towny. Get good at reading me
?

That was a general answer to your general comment. Nothing related to this particular game. I already posted u were being townie here. Sorry u took it wrong lol, it really wasn't meant that way.
oh okay i haven't read many of your posts in general but you seem to be in everyone's POEs which from realtiming, im not sure I necessarily see. But alright. I did mean to speak about your neon comment but i didnt have anything to add except for a nod ig
tbh I am in everyone's POE because nobody but Syn here really knows me and lack of time tbh. Woofs prolly think I am a lhf that can be D1ed and townies will go "what awkward?!" when that's a clear sign of village!me. (ofc nvm the last comment since lol self-meta, but it prolly explains my thread-position)

ok buddy you can be in my poe too <3

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:49 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:37 pm
let me get this right:

you agree with my poe of lucy + tutuu + wilgy

you believe lucy and tutuu are unaligned

so you believe lucy and tutuu are independently wolfy, but not together? (this is a fine position, just clarifying)
nah. I don't anymore. I have lucy/tutuu more likely town now. Might iso them now to double check how I feel on these slots (still need to read a good chunck of the thread)

i hate you

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:50 pm that's what town me does, especially as weak doctor

you are the strongest doctor i know, sweetie

i choose chaos

gg on getting n1'd again raskol

anyway let's kill lucy

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:42 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:41 pm @Sheep are you an aopser?
yes

I'm one of the good ones though (haven't been banned from MU yet)

is such a thing possible?

y'all really cheapened the impact of the word "tunnel" in the last year

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:18 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm y'all really cheapened the impact of the word "tunnel" in the last year
If Rondo is not tunnelling right now I'd hate to see your definition.

he made a case and literally everything that has happened since then has acted to strengthen the case

you're not tunneled if you think you're right and pursuing it. that's just playing the game

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:25 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:24 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:18 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm y'all really cheapened the impact of the word "tunnel" in the last year
If Rondo is not tunnelling right now I'd hate to see your definition.
he made a case and literally everything that has happened since then has acted to strengthen the case

you're not tunneled if you think you're right and pursuing it. that's just playing the game
Yeah no. Saying you've solved the game D1 in like 5 posts and conf biasing it with every post and creating worlds based solely on pre flip associations without reevaling with new info is in fact...a tunnel. But you do you.

ok i will

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:28 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:26 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:25 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:24 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:18 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm y'all really cheapened the impact of the word "tunnel" in the last year
If Rondo is not tunnelling right now I'd hate to see your definition.
he made a case and literally everything that has happened since then has acted to strengthen the case

you're not tunneled if you think you're right and pursuing it. that's just playing the game
Yeah no. Saying you've solved the game D1 in like 5 posts and conf biasing it with every post and creating worlds based solely on pre flip associations without reevaling with new info is in fact...a tunnel. But you do you.
ok i will
OK cool.

What's your view on

Me
Cape
Tutuu

town
town
wolf

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:33 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:33 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:28 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:26 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:25 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:24 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:18 pm

If Rondo is not tunnelling right now I'd hate to see your definition.
he made a case and literally everything that has happened since then has acted to strengthen the case

you're not tunneled if you think you're right and pursuing it. that's just playing the game
Yeah no. Saying you've solved the game D1 in like 5 posts and conf biasing it with every post and creating worlds based solely on pre flip associations without reevaling with new info is in fact...a tunnel. But you do you.
ok i will
OK cool.

What's your view on

Me
Cape
Tutuu
town
town
wolf
Expansion on these thoughts would be pretty cool yeah.

but I'm in anti-spew

i wolf-read tutuu for being overly conciliatory and constantly redirecting attention away from pressured cases. they aren't solving; they're just breaking things apart

i also wolf-read their refusal to vote

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:22 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:21 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:59 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:44 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:42 pm

yes

I'm one of the good ones though (haven't been banned from MU yet)
so bereft has a good read on you? (can u link 2 games where he's found you d1)

and what reads do you have, specifically on me/rondo/syn
oh
hm
wolfgames with schweppes
let's see
ah i found one
where
bereft (Osmium_)
said "Oh wait sheep (ad333) is a player in this game"
and then voted me next post
oh and then he didn't talk about me smh (https://artofproblemsolving.com/communi ... nation_frc) for reference
idt there's any more recnet aops games

gah
and there's only a turbo on MU
idk
just trust me

uh
I think you're town?
I think syn's null
Rondo's probably town but also still ignoring him and hoping he dies.
this is not a towny mindset, if you really thought I was town you would work with me to win the game.
people can be town and confident and wrong and I also generally am not the hugest fan of the "solves the game d1" archetype
Correct. I like you.
Rondo has shown signs of being able to reconsider, which is why Syn seems a lot scummier to me

thank you cape very cool

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:26 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:24 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:22 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:21 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:59 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm

oh
hm
wolfgames with schweppes
let's see
ah i found one
where
bereft (Osmium_)
said "Oh wait sheep (ad333) is a player in this game"
and then voted me next post
oh and then he didn't talk about me smh (https://artofproblemsolving.com/communi ... nation_frc) for reference
idt there's any more recnet aops games

gah
and there's only a turbo on MU
idk
just trust me

uh
I think you're town?
I think syn's null
Rondo's probably town but also still ignoring him and hoping he dies.
this is not a towny mindset, if you really thought I was town you would work with me to win the game.
people can be town and confident and wrong and I also generally am not the hugest fan of the "solves the game d1" archetype
Correct. I like you.
Rondo has shown signs of being able to reconsider, which is why Syn seems a lot scummier to me
thank you cape very cool
it's like... you have had static reads all game, have you not felt the need to relook at stuff?

i've read every single post and don't see a reason to change my immediate poe at this time

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:28 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:26 pm
it's like... you have had static reads all game, have you not felt the need to relook at stuff?
i've read every single post and don't see a reason to change my immediate poe at this time

i think me staying solid on lucy/tutuu/wilgy causing such a venomous backlash again and again and again is a sign I'm on the right path tbh

the sheer vitriol, hostility, constant insults and sussing of me because I'm staying the course *chef's kiss* it's going to be amazing

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:07 am
If Syn is town, Syn's likely correct.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:11 am Syn and Tutuu are voting with me, and I feel pretty meh about both of them, but I don't want to move.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:54 am Rondo is voting Syn?

What the fuck lol

it's provocative

it gets the people going

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:59 am
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:58 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:54 am Rondo is voting Syn?

What the fuck lol
it's provocative

it gets the people going
Hey buddy who should die today

i'd be fine with any one of lucinda, tutu dancer, doctor wilgifer, sean zie german, and the neon sign outside 7-11

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:03 am
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:02 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:59 am
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:58 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:54 am Rondo is voting Syn?

What the fuck lol
it's provocative

it gets the people going
Hey buddy who should die today
i'd be fine with any one of lucinda, tutu dancer, doctor wilgifer, sean zie german, and the neon sign outside 7-11
5/12 people eh

mfw i get called out for not expanding my poe

mfw i get called out for expanding my poe

but yeah? we've had no wolf flips. idgi. if you want to call something out, call out that my POE conveniently includes all the aggressive posters and none of the nice ones

ngl forgot there was a hammer

no judgement from me. i love hammering

night night

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:16 am On god between rondo lucy and syn I would vote out syn

this kills the syn

Sheep wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:09 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:07 pm 6v3
no sleep
2 ML’s until we lose
neon was obv doc and rondo town
i’m gonna look for softs by neon
oh no
is this one of those wolf sweep games
also sorry neon for wolfreading you d1

I will continue to not sheep rondo's reads in peace.

this is... not a great post

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:28 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:27 pm syn/pyxxy/seanzie
Certainly sean and pyxxy

hmm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:28 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:27 pm syn/pyxxy/seanzie
Certainly sean and pyxxy
syn is 99% mafia fmpov
Fair. I absolutely think he was pocketing rondo cuz rondo wasnt right on half his reads

hmm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:37 pm I expected to get NK'd cuz I'm not in anyone's poe lmao

hmm

Sheep wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:45 pm mm
i'll just sheep porscha for now because I have a rather annoying lack of wolfreasd atm

hmm

weird posts from porscha and sheep today

lucy can be town

rondo was a wifom kill (I know this because of TMI)

is jaiden underwood an alt of someone btw

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:59 pm NOW you townread me

yeah I'm also going to stop ignoring your posts

isn't this awesome

I didn't like pyxxy's posts on a reread but the odd tag-team by porscha and sheep (and porscha's subsequent "syn is not mafia, but also syn is mafia who pocketed rondo" sequence) gives me pause

i'm fairly still comfortable with a falcon and cape town-read

seanzie... eh... tutuu's slot... eh... i don't know

Sheep wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:04 pm Just so you all know me & Porscha are currently frozen and crying in wolfchat because syn has caught us

this is a weirdly insecure reply

Sheep wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:07 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:06 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:04 pm Just so you all know me & Porscha are currently frozen and crying in wolfchat because syn has caught us
this is a weirdly insecure reply
what can I say I'm weirdly insecure

I mean okay, but you understand how an awkward joke meant to discredit comes across off when the person you're saying it to is someone who was the counterwagon yesterday and has exactly no town cachet of any sort

Sheep wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:17 pm
2) I think the post came across differently than I intended, I wasn't really trying to discredit you. I don't know if you're familiar with the phrase "frozen and crying in wolfchat" but it isn't like something that I made up

i'm new to mafia uwu

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:37 pm
And if you are wolf you did certainly just pocket rondo cuz nobody else would and he ate that shit up for breakfast lunch and dinner

yeah that's why he was voting me until he saw the prospect of a hammer

I'll vote the tutuu slot i guess

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:08 pm I'll vote the tutuu slot i guess

nvm voting seanzie

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:17 pm How did 2 ppl die?

weak doctor dies if they target a wolf

lucy seems sure that neon was doc and rondo was wolf kill

i have done no reading to come to my own conclusion

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:33 am alive players

lucy - lean town
DrWilgy - lean scum
Sheep - lean scum
Neon - town
Cape90 - lean town
tutuu - lean scum
pyxxy - lean scum
Syn - lean town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME- town RondoDimBuckle - town
Seanzie - lean town
falcon45ca - lean town
Porscha - town

this was neon's last reads list. as far as I can read, they didn't change this between the list and EOD 2

the only person they have marked as certainly town is porscha

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:51 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:33 am here is a take

if seanzie is wolf, neon is town
Here is a take we are both town...(maybe)

this post might suggest that neon was going to visit seanzie n2?

idk it's weak

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:47 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:33 am alive players

lucy - lean town
DrWilgy - lean scum
Sheep - lean scum
Neon - town
Cape90 - lean town
tutuu - lean scum
pyxxy - lean scum
Syn - lean town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME- town RondoDimBuckle - town
Seanzie - lean town
falcon45ca - lean town
Porscha - town
this was neon's last reads list. as far as I can read, they didn't change this between the list and EOD 2

the only person they have marked as certainly town is porscha

(I am ignoring rondo being marked as certainly town because they said on D2 they were loosely considering rondo/lucy w/w, which they wouldn't if they'd peeked either)

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:45 pm neon doesn't make sense for a maf kill, rondo was town according to everyone and wasn't in any poe's besides like mine
Neon doc'd sean cuz rondo said that's what he would do if he was doctor
(I just assume she took his advice)
Instead of doc'ing me her lock town read
Works out tho lol

my very quick iso of neon seems to support this read

alright I am setting aside my tinfoil of porscha and assuming she's just clear

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:02 am idk what to make of syns turnaround on me

it's great, don't think twice about it

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:02 am i want to tr it badly, but also he could be pocketing me, gut is screaming

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