The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 6:24 pm Is this the game Syn got green-checked?

no

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 6:27 pm also, @Syn voting yourself is dumb stahp doing it

there's no placeholder vote option

@hollowkatt tell me who to vote

hmm vote too close

[VOTE: Tony] aubergine

marmot obvs

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 10:27 pm brief thoughts on everyone here:

koba/syn: https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 62#p786162

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 93#p786193

^^i'm leaning on the koba/syn slot being a villager primarily because of these posts. the second post is interesting to me because koba shows a willingness to wagon alison but then goes back on that idea within the same post - in theory, i would find this wolfy, but i think that it's a villagery look when contrasted with the fact that koba is the one who brought up alison's inactivity in the first place. if koba is a wolf and they brought up alison's activity as a way to distance/shade them, why does koba fall back like that when the actual possibility of alison being wagoned comes up? my instinct tells me that koba would have tried harder to dissociate themselves and alison if they were going for a ~bussing~ strategy, and if they weren't going for a bussing strategy, then the first post i linked here is wholly unnecessary for koba to make as a wolf

that, paired with syn's posts feeling generally villagery today, has me lean on the slot just being town

I read those two posts and scum-read them tbh

can I scum-read my slot

heh SPF that's like sunscreen

which is to say, I'm just going off of what Gavial said yesterday because I don't have strong feelings about a "better" choice

and I probably won't have feelings for the rest of the day phase

I got vaccinated today. my doctor warned me I'd feel bad side effects and they were right

i don't think it's SPF

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:34 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:30 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:28 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:27 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:23 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
No.
what if yes
It's a no. Remember when I said we should yeet Alison to not lose the GoC?

I'm saying don't yeet LC cause he's town.
I would gladly take the yeet here if it meant we could go back in time and listen to you in the GoC. As it is, Syn, what's your beef?

I think JJJ was distancing when he said for a vig to shoot Tony. [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

No beef, just sheep.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:27 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:23 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
No.

what if yes

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

hello

yes it is but still shoot me

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:41 pm marmot's just confirmed town, SPF I think has to be town b/c if the team was JJJ/SPF they're counting on marmot somehow not shooting at either of them? Also I like SPFs post where she lays out the JJJ posts that she'd have made if she were wolfing.
Kinda like Syn for his acceptance of being POE and the timeline post, which is townie b/c it exists, wolf Syn has no reason to say that

Everyone else getting re-evaluated today, probably starting with TSP b/c I remember his posts the least.

It just makes sense to resolve my slot, tbh. I have the least connection to either side. Even JJJ in his fake casing couldn't come up with anything more than "Well, the dk/Syn slot exists." So while there isn't a specific reason to suspect me immediately, that changes the longer I'm alive. Marmot using his shot on me means there's no possible "Maybe it's just Syn" case D4 or beyond.

I put very little stock in meta reads like that.

Perusing D2, Gavial jokes he'll track LC instead of JJJ, and Marmot says he's shooting SPF.

Of special note with the latter is that Marmot spent some time genuinely casing SPF. And of note about the former is that Gavial's replaced me in the POE with LC after Marmot's claim.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:23 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:21 pm You have another shot, right, Marmot?

Sure do! Would you like a prize tonight?

Sure lol

I'm guessing the new POE will be SPF/LC/me, and I don't have much of an opinion on what order that is in. There's enough mischops to waste one on me.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:23 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:17 pm JJJ didn't sub into the game until after Invictus was caught and gave up.
If you'd like to be pedantic, Gavial says Alison or SPF.

Alison was replaced by JJJ.
Yep, I guess what I'm saying is that slot was afk when everything went down, so only SPF could've truley helped plan it if she's scum. Alison probably didn't.

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Good point.

You have another shot, right, Marmot?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:17 pm JJJ didn't sub into the game until after Invictus was caught and gave up.

If you'd like to be pedantic, Gavial says Alison or SPF.

Alison was replaced by JJJ.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 6:26 pm Plat didn't really get caught or bussed, he got red checked. I have doubt mafia planned for him to die yesterday or intended to bus/catch him

Yes, it was a red check, but his plan seemed to be to spin it as a vig shot and he just so happened to shoot the same person the wolves shot. It got set in stone when SPF counterclaimed and Invic immediately went "A'ight, real vig outed, peace."

Invic defends SPF after the flip. SPF says Nanook is town. Gavial outs red check on Invic at 4:20 (blaze it). SPF replies 4:25. General murmurings about the track. Gavial @s Invic at 5:03. Invic replies 5:16. SPF drops a backread on Invic at 5:17. Gavial says he is going to track JJJ or SPF at 5:21. SPF says she's counter-claiming vig at 5:22. Invic says he's leaving at 5:23. Invic replies to SPF at 5:25, conceding. SPF retracts CC at 5:26.

That timeline leaves an hour, tops, for any would-be wolf plan.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 6:16 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 6:11 pm [VOTE: SPF] aubergine

I still believe she's the final wolf.
cool, nice shot! it looks like the village has more than enough information to pull a victory out of this game as long as we do some work and make sure that we all communicate

i'm gonna admit that i've been struggling in games lately to not care about peoples push on me, regardless of what their reasoning is. your push on me in this game feels uniquely distracting to me because i feel like i should be cleared and spewed as a villager on multiple levels (by making ivicitus hardclaim, by clearly not being partnered with jagged).

so, it's hard for me to resist the temptation to just spend the entirety of today aggressively telling you why you're wrong and why you should be reading me as blatant town if you think critically about the game for more than 5 seconds

even so, i don't wanna be aggressive, and i don't wanna create a negative environment in a game that should be an easy villager win even in a world where i ~do~ get mischopped. so, i will try my best to focus on simply finding the last wolf today

that said, i would ask you to keep an open mind about me too. the reason i have so much conviction about your push on me is because i feel like i should be BLATANTLY spewed town in a million different directions, and i want to convince you to see that if you're capable of having your mind changed today

I hate this post. It's almost exactly what JJJ did yesterday.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 6:20 pm the fact that im not lock town after invicitus outed himself because of my claim is just....hard for me to grasp. it is truly confusing to me. how do we live in a world where i prevented invictius from doing the sole thing that he intended to do (finding the vilgilante), and allowed the vigilante to hide for as long as they wanted, but i'm still not perceived as blatantly town?

how do we live in a world where i did absolutely nothing to shield alison from being in the POE at any point (and no, the exchange with gavial doesn't count) and even outright voiced suspicion against her slot, only for it to be perceived as me having high partner equity with alison?

i dont get it! but this will be the one and only time today that i intend to complain about it

And yet I like this post. Neither Invic nor JJJ tried fancy play, so it feels more likely that SPF also wouldn't try it. But it's also possible that they agreed beforehand that the only way through was to "catch" Invic and hope the deep wolf can take the cred and run.

lol jk no I'm not

I'm counter-claiming Marmot

conf bias hitting me something fierce

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:16 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:12 pm I would humbly suggest that the vig not try to coordinate their kill
Why?

I wrote out an explanation and then realized I was stupid

so never mind me

I would humbly suggest that the vig not try to coordinate their kill

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:02 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:02 pm I thought I was the next target after Marmot and JJJ resolve? Why LC instead?
What's your read on Gavial?
he's a tracker
Agreed. I'm wondering what inspired you to ask Gavial that question

This post of his:

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:36 pm @Long Con
Always go Syn first before Tony when I’m gone.

LC was part of his towncore and he specifically @'d LC to tell him to get me instead of Tony once Gavial's NKed and if the team isn't Marmot/you.

Now LC is your assumed partner after Marmot claimed vig. So LC is no longer towncore and I am no longer the pick, and as far as I can tell, there's no reason why that is.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:02 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:02 pm I thought I was the next target after Marmot and JJJ resolve? Why LC instead?
What's your read on Gavial?

he's a tracker

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 3:56 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 3:53 pm Also, the reason I claimed today is a couple reasons

1) I'm POE'd so I'm just going to get that out of the way.
2) Gavial is already an outed tracker, so the mafia has to either kill him tonight, giving me two shots, or kill me tonight, giving him another track, but giving me 1 shot at least.
Good Job Marmot!
Thank you bro!
Glad you were PoE as PR it helps a FUCK TON!

Now the question remains is if Long Con/JJJ kills me or you tonight.

I thought I was the next target after Marmot and JJJ resolve? Why LC instead?

I don't really have anything to contribute to this and also do not have any issues with the currently formulated plan (yes, even the part where I'm the pick for if the game doesn't end)

marmot are you trying to imply invictius got outed by two separate fake claims lol

[insert monocle emoji here]

bold of you to think dizzy is wearing a shirt

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 1:58 pm feels like he's playing a shirtsleeves game

bro you're banned from MU how can you be bringing new lingo to the table

what is a shirtsleeves game

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:02 am Yeah, Invictius is never the vig here. Shooting fingersplints imo is not a good selection.

I'm glad that's easy for me to believe, it means that Gav is telling the truth.

lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:55 am
Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:57 pm why is invictius/dizzy specifically w/v pocketing and not w/w buddying
Maybe you could try to figure that out?

and read D1?

I'd rather be scum-read

why would spf be outed scum in that world

she immediately rescinded after inv-

oh i see nvm lolz

oh nanook had same thot

do we know there's a vig

why do we think there's a vig besides invic fake claiming and spf fake CCing

why is invictius/dizzy specifically w/v pocketing and not w/w buddying

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:50 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:41 pm okay it sounds like most everyone susses Alison

which is kind of surprising after only one phase

why this
Well let’s see.
Tony is town based on them trying to cover for PR.
Dizzy is town because confirmed mafia clearly tried to pocket them.
Hollowcat is town because their interaction with confirmed mafia and hard case and push towards them doesn’t come from W/W.
Nanook’s reaction towards my check on the confirmed mafia and how they have been interacting with them is pretty unlikely to come from a W/W.
SPF just made a play recently that makes them very unlikely to be aligned with the confirmed mafia.

Leaving Alison, LC, Marmot and You.

I think your slot was sorta Townie but I also can’t see anything that would clear you and nothing that a wolf can’t do that you did.
LC has been decently Townie this game but not enough that they can’t be wolf.
Marmot is Marmot, probably self resolving.
Alison has made a hugh push on me SoD1 and other then that hasn’t really done anything else and there push on me was dog shit.

This sum it up for you?

you're technically clear now... after outing a red check and that you're a PR... so why would someone pushing you D1, before either of those things, be wolf indicative?

okay it sounds like most everyone susses Alison

which is kind of surprising after only one phase

why this

c o n t e n t

shit fuck

why is that so tiny

i don't want to back-read

how can I town tell myself without

c o n t e n t

I GUESS NOT

d1 before kills

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