Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:29 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:26 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:40 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:14 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:36 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:32 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:28 pm
It just felt like a lot piling onto one person in a very short amount of time
Well, I s'pose you could ask those voting Miranda as to their reasons...but you're not doing that.
Why?
Actually this is sort of hypocritical on review. Falcon votes me immediately after this. They’re tasking issue with my saying I’m
uncomfortable with how fast the three votes seemed to pile onto Miranda, and not asking each of the voters for the reasons for their votes.
But then never asks me why I don’t like the wagon.
What’s worse here is I
just noted that it was odd how many votes came on Miranda in rapid succession. But I didn’t use that as an opportunity to wolf read anyone or try to vote them out. Falcon here though did the exact same thing he accused me of doing and used it as an excuse to try and get me misyeeted.
That’s foundationally unsound.
You already said why you did not like the wagon, remember?
Now you're saying you found the speed of the wagon odd, before you clearly said you did not like it. So, is it strange, or is it scummy? There's a big difference.
You're also toning down the phrasing each time...first you say you don't like it, then uncomfortable, then odd. You keep scaling back how you feel about the wagon.
I see you still haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters. Duly noted.
First of all, no, I haven’t said why. I’ve said things about I don’t like but I haven’t stated my primary gripe with it.
Secondly, as part of my issue with the wagon, I originally said I felt like it was happening very quickly. Claiming I only just now have taken issue with the speed is a blatant lie and mischaracterization of reality.
Lastly I don’t need to follow up with the voters at this time. I don’t believe going to each one individually and asking them “why are you voting Miranda?” Like Oliver Twist asking for soup, will yield any relevant information from their catered and crafted answers. That’s not how I solve.
It’s furthermore counterintuitive for you to make such a big todo about how “WhY aReN’T yOu aSkiNg fOr tHeiR rEaSonS?!?!” When you yourself seem wholly uninterested in the reasons yourself.
I have a reason for not asking. But you, who based on your push of me it seems puts an ENORMOUS amount of value on asking people why they’re voting for someone is entirely uninterested in actually figuring out why people are voting for who they are. This is counterintuitive in a way that seems fairly scummy.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Yes, you’re clearly putting in the effort to actually have a conversation about this.
The fact that you didn’t ask what my primary gripe with the Miranda wagon actually is, is telling that you’re wholly uninterested in actually solving.
So, what is your gripe?
For the record, when someone says "I don't like this cuz of X", I will always assume that X is their primary reason.
When you say "I don't like this wagon, cuz it's happening too quickly" I assume you don't like the wagon, cuz it's happening too quickly.
When I asked you why you haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters, and get a whole lotta deflection w/ no real answers, well that doesn't really seem like you care to solve the wagon at all.
The irony of being told by a player who doesn't question players on a wagon he doesn't like that I'm not solving...
