The Syndicate

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:35 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:55 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole
Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?

And you think they're both town?
Yes absolutely.
Roles are not AI.
So you do not believe that there are copy roles...1 for Maf, 1 for Town?
I believe mafia can either share the same role with a town or another mafia member therefore someone’s role cannot determine someone’s alignment.

There are 9 roles, based on the classes from the game. Each role has two copies, a Red and a Blue copy. The two copies are identical and have the same abilities.

4 of those copies are part of the mafia faction, the other 14 are town.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:42 pm I mean yeah he’s kinda playing anti town with the 1 scum in Roleblocker when it’s very likely both town but like I expect NAA is the type of player to make wrong reads but yet I see other people make em too so it ain’t far off from normal play so I don’t see any game throwing here.

Why is the RB a role that's exclusive to Town?

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:55 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole
Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?

And you think they're both town?
Yes absolutely.
Roles are not AI.

So you do not believe that there are copy roles...1 for Maf, 1 for Town?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:54 pm Yeah, I don’t need to claim here at all. I got battle continuation.

Look at my record as a wolf. I’m always the last wolf on my team. I bus without mercy, worrying more about my standing than power wolfing. I double bussed at lylo in my most recent wolf win.

Sabie, much as I’m a fan on a personal level, is not much of a tap dancer. As a wolf, I never spend a bunch of time trying to defend her from a D2 red check.

I’m obviously just town here. :emproofsmugcoffee:

Can confirm you have odd strategies as wolf...I played the game where you literally postponed a wolf win for town cred

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:39 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:35 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:16 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm Guillo and Dizzy both flipping Wolf should confirm both me and Sig.
I must have missed a lot lol. Are these preflip associations or did we really catch 2 wolves before I made my first post?
This post is super fake
Meh. It’s reasonable for me to ask for mechanical clarification during catch-up to prevent like….isoing a player that is already red checked….which I did the next day.
Why do you feel the need to address Guillo re: your fake post, rather than LC & his mech outting of you?
Because Guillo actually quoted me and I’m not aware of LC “outting” me.

I’m assuming he’s claiming a block on me or somesuch since my action failed.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:40 pm Like…you get notifications when people quote you

Fair enough.

He is claiming a RB on you, so that's confirmed. What's your role?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:35 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:16 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm Guillo and Dizzy both flipping Wolf should confirm both me and Sig.
I must have missed a lot lol. Are these preflip associations or did we really catch 2 wolves before I made my first post?
This post is super fake
Meh. It’s reasonable for me to ask for mechanical clarification during catch-up to prevent like….isoing a player that is already red checked….which I did the next day.

Why do you feel the need to address Guillo re: your fake post, rather than LC & his mech outting of you?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:21 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am

Marmot
Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?
I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.
So what's with all the drama?
The drama is why are you fucking lying?

I'm not sure I see the relevance.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 am

@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?
Marmot
Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?
I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.
So what's with all the drama?
The drama is why are you fucking lying?

I am a Medic, that's not a lie

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:07 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:53 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole
Ok, so one is town
Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

I don't know that we have confirmation that there's a copy role for town/maf

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 am LC, it’s more likely that the kill got protected last night imo
@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?
Marmot
Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?
I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.

So what's with all the drama?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:55 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole
Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?

And you think they're both town?
There are two of every role

Yes, I understand that. I didn't know both LC & Dolby had claimed RB.

Do you see town as having 2 RBers? I know you SR LC, so I'll assume not

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?

And you think they're both town?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 am LC, it’s more likely that the kill got protected last night imo
@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?
Marmot
Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 am LC, it’s more likely that the kill got protected last night imo
@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?
Marmot

@Gavial

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:04 pm [VOTE: Gav] aubergine
Instead of voting me (and not the players roleblocked.) how about you answer my question and tell me who you “protected” last night.

I already have.

[VOTE: Gav] aubergine

@MacDougall I've gone thru Dolby's ISO, and there's nothing that jumps out at me. GTH he's town

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:31 pm So my biggest issue right now is I don't have any super solid mafia reads.

I'm back and forth on Gullio, his low tunneling on me is a bit scummy and he's not doing much content wise just volume also there's this weird thing with naa which doesn't seem V/V unless I"m missing something? But, he was also pushing sabie for awhile if i recall correctly and Last phase I pegged him as tunneling towny which seems more right.

I think the LC read on jack has some merit, but with the amount of blocks, protects, eCt out there it isn't solid.

I think most likely mafia are laying low, maybe we've got one who voted to save sabie, but doubt it's more than that, and probably one on her wagon? I need to go backk and look at that lay out.

Also beginning to suspect Falcon given his under the radar playstyle and D1 flipflopping vote then avoidance of wagons.

I'm under the radar? You've got fewer than 80 posts, kettle meet pot?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:55 am Dolby Falcon LimeCoke Mac has to contain a lot of wolves.

Why? By a lot, I assume it has to have 2. Why does that list of 4 have 2 Maf?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:47 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:40 am @LinearPoint
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@falcon45ca
@Dolby
@sig
@TonyStarkPrime

Votes onto JackofHearts he's outed mechanically.
Will do. What's the mech?
He blocked Jack, but Nanook was also blocked, Mac and Marmot were also saved. It's quite irrelevant "mech" information.

That doesn't sound irrelevant. It may not be a smoking gun, but to call it irrelevant is...interesting

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:20 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:17 am Honestly, I don't feel like Gav is Mafia.
He's actually way to wolfy to ever be wolf.
You cannot make this read on Gavial... he just got to f3 as mafia doing this exact same shit and only lost because of how much he pissed falcon off Falcon voted him cuz he didn't want to lose to him. He coasted an entire game just openly doing pro wolf chaotic silly shit and bussed his lone teammate.

This game ended literally last week it'd fresh meta.

24% of my vote on Gav was due to my dislike of his play. 76% was reading his actions. You're right tho, no town cred should be given to Gav due to his chaotic play...."wolves wouldn't be this obvs"....it doesn't work on him

I'll say this, you're going back and forth w/ Gav this game like there's a chance he can be rational. Why is that?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:20 pm so I take it you have no read on me?

I actually wanted to respond to this earlier, but the thread was locked.

I do find you pouring on the effort (I think like 90% of your posts happened within a short time frame that day) to be sus. I am still catching up, y'all did 6 pages last night. I'll let ya know if that changes

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:47 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:40 am @LinearPoint
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@falcon45ca
@Dolby
@sig
@TonyStarkPrime

Votes onto JackofHearts he's outed mechanically.
Will do. What's the mech?
He blocked Jack, but Nanook was also blocked, Mac and Marmot were also saved. It's quite irrelevant "mech" information.

OK. Does that mean you doubt it? Kinda sounds that way

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:36 am @falcon45ca @Dolby reads on each other plz

Outside of what I've mentioned re: their switch to Sean's wagon, I don't have a strong read on Dolby. I shall ISO them

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 am LC, it’s more likely that the kill got protected last night imo
@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?

Marmot

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:40 am @LinearPoint
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@falcon45ca
@Dolby
@sig
@TonyStarkPrime

Votes onto JackofHearts he's outed mechanically.

Will do. What's the mech?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:20 pm so I take it you have no read on me?

Not a List worthy read, no.

I don't feel I've seen enough of you to categorize you yet

Nice List: LC, LP, Marmot, Martin, Guillo

Naughty List: Nook, Gav, NAA, Dolby, Jack, Sig, Wilgy

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:57 pm @falcon45ca can you give me a good thorough assessment of your gamestate atm?
Oh cmon Mac, you know I don't do good thorough gamestate assessments and whatnot

Looking into players who jumped onto Sean next RD, and whatever pops up organically ITT
like reads ... who do you find wolfy and who is towny
I like LP, Martin, Marmot

Players of interest to me currently: Gav, Nook, NAA, Dolby, Jack, Sig, Wilgy
Add Guillo to my like list

And LC

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:57 pm @falcon45ca can you give me a good thorough assessment of your gamestate atm?
Oh cmon Mac, you know I don't do good thorough gamestate assessments and whatnot

Looking into players who jumped onto Sean next RD, and whatever pops up organically ITT
like reads ... who do you find wolfy and who is towny
I like LP, Martin, Marmot

Players of interest to me currently: Gav, Nook, NAA, Dolby, Jack, Sig, Wilgy

Add Guillo to my like list

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:57 pm @falcon45ca can you give me a good thorough assessment of your gamestate atm?
Oh cmon Mac, you know I don't do good thorough gamestate assessments and whatnot

Looking into players who jumped onto Sean next RD, and whatever pops up organically ITT
like reads ... who do you find wolfy and who is towny

I like LP, Martin, Marmot

Players of interest to me currently: Gav, Nook, NAA, Dolby, Jack, Sig, Wilgy

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:05 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:01 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:59 pm @LinearPoint when we're in final 3 together, I'm literally going to use that exact argument. And you'll point to this conversation, and I promise it won't matter.
Yeah, unfortunately. I just have to hope the 3rd person is super obviously the last Mafia.
I've been such billboard town on this site it's frustrating. Every single game I've played on site, I've been identified as lock town.

Billboard town eh?

That has not been my experience playing with you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:57 pm @falcon45ca can you give me a good thorough assessment of your gamestate atm?

Oh cmon Mac, you know I don't do good thorough gamestate assessments and whatnot

Looking into players who jumped onto Sean next RD, and whatever pops up organically ITT

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:51 pm I feel like the Falcon vote on Nanook is a weak attempt at distancing btw.

I mean, you're in my POE, so I'd expect nothing less

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm I'd like to just point out that while we are all talking shit Dolby is outed mafia

Yeah maybe

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:32 pm mass claim order will prboably go by role

Fuck it, I'll claim. I've never really been known as plating a role to the full potential anyhow, so why try now?

I am a Medic

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:25 pm yeah 2 hours remain.
Honestly. Yeah I'm debating on to vote Gav or Falcon.
I think one is a Sniper, but not sure which.

Why do you see Gav & I as possible snipers?

I'd think any sniper would be laying low so as not to attract votes

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:03 pm Signle vote wagons are useless and only hurt town.
Mafia Sniper needs 2 votes to be thrown off their aim.
Town Sniper needs 1.
Asking for single vote wagons is just saying to RB all Town vigilantes so only Mafia vigilantes can attack tonight.

Wait, what?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:45 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:36 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:34 am 4 of Sabie, Mac, Falcon, Nanook, LinearPoint, Guillotine, Dolby. That's the winning PoE, calling it now.

If you're taken aback "WOAH, I'm town"... Yes, 42.9% of you are.
Talk to me about Mac, LP & Dolby
No can do daddy-o

Using 50s jargon is cool, but unhelpful in this instance.

Why not elaborate?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:34 am 4 of Sabie, Mac, Falcon, Nanook, LinearPoint, Guillotine, Dolby. That's the winning PoE, calling it now.

If you're taken aback "WOAH, I'm town"... Yes, 42.9% of you are.

Talk to me about Mac, LP & Dolby

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:26 am Im gonna say this. Falcon is treating Gavial like a bad townie, not like scum.

He's part of my POE. I don't feel the need to aggressively pursue anyone in my list til next RD.

NAA, Nook, Gav

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:24 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:23 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:10 am Like look at a readslist in a wolf game of mine and compare it to my town one.

You aren’t even going to respond to what I said before Falcon are you? Your just gonna sit there with a grin on your face and discredit me.

Most of the stuff you have been doing Falcon is what the wolf you would do, why’s that? @falcon45ca
I don't believe you would game solve the same way you normally do as wolf...remember the F3? Yeah you do.

Oh, and I've already said this.

Yes I do.
I planned the entire thing. Does anything I've done look planned to you?

Gav, rarely do the things you do look very well planned to me. You are a roiling ball of chaos.

And again I'll say, I feel you'd play this game differently as wolf.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:10 am Like look at a readslist in a wolf game of mine and compare it to my town one.

You aren’t even going to respond to what I said before Falcon are you? Your just gonna sit there with a grin on your face and discredit me.

Most of the stuff you have been doing Falcon is what the wolf you would do, why’s that? @falcon45ca

I don't believe you would game solve the same way you normally do as wolf...remember the F3? Yeah you do.

Oh, and I've already said this.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:14 am @Jackofhearts2005
Can you be a Prince and give me Falcon’s ISO?

I don't see why you'd bother, facts are the enemy of Gavial!

Just make up your read, and conf bias it like you always do

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:24 am I actually think Falcon’s responses to Gav on my page 29 are kinda wolfy.

Like I can understand being frustrated with the way Gav solves but actually baiting him like that is a thing that wolves have a tendency to do over townies.

I don't think Gav is solving, I think he's scum.

I feel I've mentioned this several times.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:40 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:18 pm Gav!

We all know Sabie is going over this RD!

Your vote is uuuuuuuiuuuse lessssssssssss
So is yours.
Your just being hypocritical at this point.
I'm pointing out your hypocrisy actually.

But again, Gav & rationality...never the two shall meet
How so?
I’m not the one that thinks he’s fucking lock clear if Nanook flips Wolf.

I'm extremely positive I've never said that.

Gav cursing tho...now when was the last time I've seen him do that?

Is it tough...actively changing your scum approach, and still getting sussed?

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:18 pm Gav!

We all know Sabie is going over this RD!

Your vote is uuuuuuuiuuuse lessssssssssss
So is yours.
Your just being hypocritical at this point.

I'm pointing out your hypocrisy actually.

But again, Gav & rationality...never the two shall meet

Gav!

We all know Sabie is going over this RD!

Your vote is uuuuuuuiuuuse lessssssssssss

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:44 pm I think Falcon wolf claimed because he knew I caught him with his shit reasoning and doesn’t wanna say anything because he is frozen.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:35 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:31 pm If you need me to sum it down to doggy level for you Falcon, here I go!

You.
Vote.
Nanook.
Ok, Cool.

There.
Is.
No.
Other.
Option.
Then.
Sabie.
That.
Is.
Going.
To.
Go.
Through.
Today.

Your.
Vote.
Doesn’t.
Mean.
Shit.
TL,DR
If you can’t read that, you either don’t read a quarter of the posts
in FM Games, you hate periods or your wolf.

Which one is it?

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