The Syndicate

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:31 pm If you need me to sum it down to doggy level for you Falcon, here I go!

You.
Vote.
Nanook.
Ok, Cool.

There.
Is.
No.
Other.
Option.
Then.
Sabie.
That.
Is.
Going.
To.
Go.
Through.
Today.

Your.
Vote.
Doesn’t.
Mean.
Shit.

TL,DR

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:20 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:03 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:53 pm Nook switched onto Seanzie at some point and I can't find a reason why. Does anyone know?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:57 pm Dolby's switch onto Sean...feels like it could be a wolf move, get on an ML CW early enough that it's not overly questioned, but perhaps that's too much tinfoil
Falcon/Nanook team can make sense.
In a world where Nook & I are scum, why am I pushing his wagon over other players who CFD onto Sean?
Because Sabie is Redchecked?
Lol.
I don't see what one has to do with the other, but I'd be a fool to expect a rational answer from you

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:07 pm Like that’s like you being on Mars and you telling me that at least you aren’t at another planet like the rest of the explorers when the rest of them are still on earth.
Discrediting me now? Nice!

I gave you the example, if you read and pay attention you’ll understand what I’m saying.
Although if your wolf I don’t really expect you to give a shit about much of it.

No, that's not what I'm doing.

You can't discredit a crazy person

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:03 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:53 pm Nook switched onto Seanzie at some point and I can't find a reason why. Does anyone know?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:57 pm Dolby's switch onto Sean...feels like it could be a wolf move, get on an ML CW early enough that it's not overly questioned, but perhaps that's too much tinfoil
Falcon/Nanook team can make sense.
In a world where Nook & I are scum, why am I pushing his wagon over other players who CFD onto Sean?
Because Sabie is Redchecked?
Lol.

I don't see what one has to do with the other, but I'd be a fool to expect a rational answer from you

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:53 pm Nook switched onto Seanzie at some point and I can't find a reason why. Does anyone know?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:57 pm Dolby's switch onto Sean...feels like it could be a wolf move, get on an ML CW early enough that it's not overly questioned, but perhaps that's too much tinfoil
Falcon/Nanook team can make sense.

In a world where Nook & I are scum, why am I pushing his wagon over other players who CFD onto Sean?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:12 pm So I read a little bit and see Sabie is red checked which should clear me tbh cuz I wanted to kill her ass and do nothing else before the red check was a thing.

Aaaaanyway TSP, NAA and Nanook can just get it.

I also want Gavial, Guillo and Martin to die.

Thoughts on Dolby's move to Sean?

sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:27 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Because he said something I haven't heard town say yet about Gavial's play.
Okay he did vote for me based only really off the fact I civ read Gavial and how i civ read him. Which seems like a bizzare reason to vote someone, but it was day 1 so whatever.

Totally a false narrative to say Dizzy was heavily scum reading me, if anything it was typical probing and searching meaning Gullio is just continuing his bizarre tunneling and now using Dizzy to do so.

So are they both town? Which one is Maf?

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:35 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:26 pm Not enough jokes tbh
Then be more funny Jack.

Be the change you want to see in the world

Might be scum theatre here.

I don't do theatre, I do reality

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:53 pm Nook switched onto Seanzie at some point and I can't find a reason why. Does anyone know?
Ask him i guess

Don't get fresh with me young man

Dolby's switch onto Sean...feels like it could be a wolf move, get on an ML CW early enough that it's not overly questioned, but perhaps that's too much tinfoil

Nook switched onto Seanzie at some point and I can't find a reason why. Does anyone know?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:26 pm Not enough jokes tbh

Then be more funny Jack.

Be the change you want to see in the world

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:44 pm Whoever sheeped NotAnAxehole to chop Seanzie needs to get chopped.

NAA had no thread presence whatsoever, he was just voting and it only took him proposing Seanzie as a wagon to get traction.
So if it was up to me I’d start killing people who voted right after NAA called out for a Seanzie chop until we find a wolf (besides Sabie).
If it turns out it was pure, we dont deserve to win if we are gonna play like that.

Surely they can't all be scum.

Let's try and sort the opportunistic wolves from the foolish town

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:46 pm The more i read that EoD the more disappointed and mad i get.

What makes you the most upset about it?

NAA seems like a worm on a hook...lots of wriggling about

OK, Gav prolly town

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:18 pm To be fully transparent, sabie visited Dizzy last night, and I saw no one else there.

Well there ya go

sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:46 pm @falcon45ca can you explain your vote for me a bit more vs one of the wagons. Or is it just that you think I dipped and wanted to switch.

I found your dip scummy, and I still do.

I found Sabie's wagon a bit sus, but given how EOD turned out I want that flip

[VOTE: Sabie] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:13 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:10 pm I don't recall seeing your vote on them prior to the EoD, I only remembered seeing Dolby's.
But you still are also very low posting and haven't done anything which is fairly out of character for you.
I voted for Seanzie about 3 hrs into the day and didn't change it. I also made no case or effort it was just an RVS vote and I got busy. If you're going to sus me please fact check your bullshit first.

I'm allowed to gave a low effort game and sussing me for it is crap.

OK, EOD shenanigans doesn't reflect poorly on Mac

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:49 pm Who all jumped on that Sean wagon?
nanook, naa, sabie, one or both of TSP and Macdougall. Tbh I don't remember which of the two was a previous voter

me if you count voting an hour before the CFD jumping on

If Mac jumped on, that's scummy AF. Not sure I'd he was there before tho

Who all jumped on that Sean wagon?

Who all jumped on that Sean wagon?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 pm @falcon45ca

When you get on let me know your full thought process on Gavial.

I feel I've outlined my feelings on Gav's slot pretty clearly. Do you have a specific question in mind?

I'd put Gav at 72% scum

When's EOD?

Like, if I'm Maf, and a player says they won't be around til EOD, if even then, I would find a reason to join that wagon

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:38 pm [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

Feel opportunistic on Sabie
Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?
I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.

My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.
If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

I don't put nulls into my POE until later in a game, not D1.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:47 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:42 pm Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.
It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

OK, I see what you're talking about.

Still, given they did mention prior to this when they voted Marmot they'd try and make EOD, the sudden push on Sabie makes me pause.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:38 pm [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

Feel opportunistic on Sabie
Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.

My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:36 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:31 pm I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook
Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.
Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?
Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

Can you show me where they commented on their wagon?

I do see them mentioning trying to be here for EOD, which would indicate they wouldn't be around for awhile.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:31 pm I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook
Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:17 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:07 pm Has Sabie been scummy enough to warrant 7 votes atm?
Not really, but what 'cha gonna do?

Take a look at the wagon, and see who looks opportunistic?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:13 pm Do we know what roles are in the game? I thought this game had some kind of cartoon theme. lel

Derp clear denied

Has Sabie been scummy enough to warrant 7 votes atm?

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

I feel as tho Sig has dipped after getting D0 heat

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:36 am What's the case against Jack?
I'm voting him because his "oh haha I'm here" with an added "wait, did scum already flip?" seems performative, as the kids says. I also think he was asking questions to Gavial that he didn't care much to get the answer from. Like, he made conversation, but I don't think he cared to do anything else than just get some posts out. I didn't like it. Jack is hard to read, but I've done well doing it in the past. But yeah, not a very confident read either way tbh.

Was his approach to Gav partnered? Is that why he sounded like he was just making conversation?

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:54 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:08 pm I think Gav is Town. I know he likes to make mountains out of mole hills and has some bad case of tunnelvision.
But he does legitimately try to fish for other people to give their reads.
If this were a Mafia Gav I feel like he'd be trying to engage people less and focusing more on just running the game with his conspiracy theories.
The fact he is even wanting others to give opinions on who is Mafia is telling that this is Town Gav.

That being said if he flips Mafia he 100% TMId a lot of things from the fact that there is exactly 1 Mafia in Sean, Guillotine, Falcon to various people being Town with no reason for the town reads.

I don't think he's Mafia though.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:32 pm I still am having trouble deciding between Marmot and Gav.
The more I look at it the more likely I see a Gav-Falcon team. Falcon is right, i haven't seen Gav not hard push Falcon day 1 as a policy lynch so it seems like something is making him not want to which implies Maf buddies.
Gav was also confident in imediately throwing out that 1 Mafia in Gullio, Sean, Falcon. Falcon also seems a bit unsure if Gav is Town or Mafia which makes it look a bit more like a 2-way Mafia street.\
While Marmot is flaky i don't like Sabie's vote seeming to be opportunistic and I've already said Marmot being completely OK with being lynched doesn't quite seem Mafia to me when it wasn't like Marmot was really the top lynch.
It also feels weird to me Gav was so quick to claim with slight pressure when he was Town, but he's not here. I think I just need to see this flip honestly.
I would prefer Sabie though atm, but seeing as that's not a wagon I'll go with Gav as my gut for most likely Mafia of these 3.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
What? You think I'm hedgey on Gav?
a bit yeah.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:07 pm Gav could very well be Maf. He had an odd entrance re: my RNG POE, claiming later he liked the list (save LP)...it's a RNG list at the beginning of the game, there's nothing to like. Most of the player list hadn't even posted.

Then Gav said he'd sheep me. Now he has me as a null read, which is something that Gav rarely does w/ anybody, let alone myself. To date, in no game Gav & I have played has he ever had me as null. It's either town or scum, there's no in between w/ Gav

He's been soft on my slot, very out of character. I've made mention of it already. Gav is not really in his town range IMO. Definitely could be scum
This just kind of read to me as a possible Mafia who didn't want to say their partner was Town, but also didn't want to vote them in case they could somehow survive the day.

Ah, so it's my lack of vote on Gav here that makes you think it's hedgey?

I don't vote everyone I think is scum all at once, I can only do it 1 at a time ya know

It's D1, of course I'm not sure if Gav is Maf.

I feel my thoughts on Gav are pretty clear, and to categorize them as hedgey or soft is pretty disingenuous IMO.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:08 pm I think Gav is Town. I know he likes to make mountains out of mole hills and has some bad case of tunnelvision.
But he does legitimately try to fish for other people to give their reads.
If this were a Mafia Gav I feel like he'd be trying to engage people less and focusing more on just running the game with his conspiracy theories.
The fact he is even wanting others to give opinions on who is Mafia is telling that this is Town Gav.

That being said if he flips Mafia he 100% TMId a lot of things from the fact that there is exactly 1 Mafia in Sean, Guillotine, Falcon to various people being Town with no reason for the town reads.

I don't think he's Mafia though.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:32 pm I still am having trouble deciding between Marmot and Gav.
The more I look at it the more likely I see a Gav-Falcon team. Falcon is right, i haven't seen Gav not hard push Falcon day 1 as a policy lynch so it seems like something is making him not want to which implies Maf buddies.
Gav was also confident in imediately throwing out that 1 Mafia in Gullio, Sean, Falcon. Falcon also seems a bit unsure if Gav is Town or Mafia which makes it look a bit more like a 2-way Mafia street.\
While Marmot is flaky i don't like Sabie's vote seeming to be opportunistic and I've already said Marmot being completely OK with being lynched doesn't quite seem Mafia to me when it wasn't like Marmot was really the top lynch.
It also feels weird to me Gav was so quick to claim with slight pressure when he was Town, but he's not here. I think I just need to see this flip honestly.
I would prefer Sabie though atm, but seeing as that's not a wagon I'll go with Gav as my gut for most likely Mafia of these 3.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

What? You think I'm hedgey on Gav?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:11 pm Hmm I guess Marmot's disinterest is odd and could be mafia? If he were then he hasn't provided much interaction with anyone so he wouldn't be worried about giving away teammates if he gets voted off. I can never get a good read on Jack. If Jack is mafia he's better to get out earlier rather than later. Does gavial have a different playstyle when town or mafia? He always seems kinda all over the place.
Throwing a vote on marmot for now. Hoping to be able to come back later before EOD.
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Odd post. The question mark at the end of your 1st sentence makes it seem like you don't believe it.

It seems like you're putting a vote on Marmot w/ the plan of removing it later

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:08 pm I think Gav is Town. I know he likes to make mountains out of mole hills and has some bad case of tunnelvision.
But he does legitimately try to fish for other people to give their reads.
If this were a Mafia Gav I feel like he'd be trying to engage people less and focusing more on just running the game with his conspiracy theories.
The fact he is even wanting others to give opinions on who is Mafia is telling that this is Town Gav.

That being said if he flips Mafia he 100% TMId a lot of things from the fact that there is exactly 1 Mafia in Sean, Guillotine, Falcon to various people being Town with no reason for the town reads.

I don't think he's Mafia though.

He just lost as Maf in an F3 w/ that same strategy. I'd expect him to switch it up a bit if he randed wolf this game.

It feels like he's "trying" to post like town, he does not feel like town Gav IMO

Gav could very well be Maf. He had an odd entrance re: my RNG POE, claiming later he liked the list (save LP)...it's a RNG list at the beginning of the game, there's nothing to like. Most of the player list hadn't even posted.

Then Gav said he'd sheep me. Now he has me as a null read, which is something that Gav rarely does w/ anybody, let alone myself. To date, in no game Gav & I have played has he ever had me as null. It's either town or scum, there's no in between w/ Gav

He's been soft on my slot, very out of character. I've made mention of it already. Gav is not really in his town range IMO. Definitely could be scum

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:52 pm I'm just saying marmot has a pretty easy out which I think a Mafia would want to take asap.

Agreed

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:46 pm Maybe, but there is a pretty good chance Marmot doesn't die today.
There are 3 wagons that are pretty close to being tied.
Not to mention there is like 4 players with vote manipulating abilities.

That makes Marmot's attitude even easier for a wolf then I'd say

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:41 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:36 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:20 am Where did this sneaky Marmot train come from?
I’m still waiting for @Marmot to make an actual move.

I don't have time to make any moves unfortunately. Have fun on the train y'all.
But see this attitude of giving up seems to come more from Town than Mafia though so I don't even know.
Fuck all these day 1 wagons.

I can also see Maf doing the same thing if they got a wagon on them quickly & didn't have time to address the game.

The attitude is NAI IMO

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:36 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:20 am Where did this sneaky Marmot train come from?
I’m still waiting for @Marmot to make an actual move.

I don't have time to make any moves unfortunately. Have fun on the train y'all.

Gimme 3 reasons to think you're town

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:32 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:21 am @DrWilgy
Why are you voting Mac who is more then likely town?
Mnf mnphnph Mh mhr mph mnhphn Mfhph mph.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:30 pm I can possibly see a world where Jack is Mafia and Guillotine's vote on Gav being a desperation move to 50/50 the lynch so a Mafia isn't offed.
For now I'm going to switch to Marmot, but if people don't get on so we can actually decide a lynch instead of randoming it I'll throw my vote onto one of the other wagons.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Whoa, check the time stamps

Towny mindmeld

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