The Syndicate

What are the odds the wagon on Dizzy was pure town? Imma say slim to none

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:45 pm I'm at Red Lobster currently. I'll talk to y'all later.

[VOTE: Tess] aubergine

I'll explain why later.

I wonder if your reasons are the same as mine

[VOTE: Tess] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE: Mizery] aubergine] aubergine

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:25 pm are any of yall goign to vote dizzy? Alison? Gira? Lime Coke?
if not then leave me the hell alone

I'd vote Gira, possibly LC

What's your case against LC?

[VOTE: Tess] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:56 pm Tess, Mizery, Gira, Wisp is a fine POE from where I'm sitting
Lol

C'mon, I've told waaaaaay better jokes than that

Tess, Mizery, Gira, Wisp is a fine POE from where I'm sitting

What's the case against Dizzy?

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:21 pm maybe Falcon is a wolf for asking nonsensical questions

Why does it feel to you all the wolves are afk?

If the wolves are afk, it follows that you think the players who are posting are town, ya?

So do you think scum can't come across as town?

Honestly, for a player who's been in the game as much as you have, to only have Wilgy and AFKs as scum is concerning.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:11 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:48 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:47 pm I'm probably not going to be around much tomorrow btw.

I have a job interview in the morning and then after that I'm going camping-- so I'll mostly just be on my phone-- so it's good I'm getting clears.

Let's figure out who wolves are now though
Gluck on the interview.

What're your thoughts on wolves other than Wilgy rn?

If you ignore Wilgy, pick 3 you'd push right now.
Well it's a weird game because it feels like all the wolves must be LHF or afk. Really the only person I'm interested in pushing is Wigly-- there are reasons to not push pretty much everyone else who is semi-active (not including Mizery who falls into the LHF category)-- so my GTH wolf team is pretty much Wigly, Mizery, and then one of Lime Coke/Tess. And it's a pretty slim chance that that is correct-- and so maybe Alison is just a wolf after all but I don't really think that-- although I think that will become more clear pretty soon, and I've never seen your wolf game either so you'll have to tell me what it's like. After that I'm out of guesses.

Why is that?

Surely you don't think scum are incapable of being towny at times?

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:05 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:03 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:02 pm i have again 0 intention of self-isoing myself and telling you why I am town
that is your job
So you can't explain why your actions are townie despite making blatantly obvious anti-town moves.

Got it.
what am I doing that is anti-town?

Can you give us a POE and why?

Who are your scum reads, and who are your town reads?

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:50 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:26 pm man you really want to die on my town flip don't you
Why is he dying on your "town flip"?
it was me rewriting the typical English phrase, "This is the hill u wanna die on"

I'm not sure that saying really applies here.

Maf is all about solving and mislynches and being wrong, and if you get flipped and you're green, I don't see anybody really faulting Ender for SR you. He's not alone in that category.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:15 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:23 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:08 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:49 am Nanook is town, I think as well,
His reads ring clear and true today,
Normal scum Nook will tell,
By playing coy with diplomay
so, like, notably as of this post nanook has given basically no serious reads whatsoever so this is a really weird read
Lmao.

Nanook has expressed in previous games that Gavial's constant requests for people to sheep him are bad for town.

His intentional "LET'S SHEEP GAV" feels like petty Nanook being Petty.

Which is unironically rand!v for him.
I'm not being petty i genuinely want to see what happens

Do you think Gav is town?

Do you just want to see what happens if you 100% sheep Gav, regardless of his alignment?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:56 pm I'm sorry everyone I had to go out and grab something from the store.

I'll start reading through now.

I'm expecting big things from you

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:26 pm man you really want to die on my town flip don't you

Why is he dying on your "town flip"?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:51 pm [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

Sorry diz, the master compels me

Thoughts on Ender's TR of you?

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:10 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:04 pm Wisp,

What are your own thoughts on Wilgy?

Since you're demanding an explanation from me and now voting me over a lack of it, I assume that means that you think Wilgy is villagery?
It has nothing to do with wilgy, I haven't read much of anything in regards, I don't think he's done anything that someone like me without meta can even lean him on, without asking him questions

I expected your read to be less of, "I don't think he should be town, to I don't think he has done much fo anything, to I think he can be a wolf"

You haven't answered my question in my opinion. So there isn't much of a reason for me to believe your vote isn't malicious.

Honestly I'm surprised ender hasn't jumped on you for that, since this is exactly what he pushing in regards to me

Yeah I don't agree with much of anything in this post...you don't care about the alignment of Wilgy re: Luck's vote on them?

You think its a malicious vote, and don't care about the alignment of the player being voted...and then what's your take on Ender?

Cuz it sounds like you TR them, but if Ender is doing as you say, it makes no sense for you to TR them

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:48 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:46 am its definitely a meta clash, but in terms of Nanook
I dont see what you are saying when you say, "He is doing things"
He is doing contrary things.

Nanook is tendant towards diplomatic play when scum.

There is a slight warning bell in that he also likes to establish an early pocket when scum (Lookin' at you Gav) but overall more rand!v

His funniness is appreciated but irrelevant to this impression.

What is Nanook doing that is contrary?

His ISO is extremely limited, and like half if it is about sheeping Gav

@Alison What do you like about Ender's read on Nanook?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:11 am I'm sheeping Ender on nanook. Gira is probably town and just throwing a tantrum.

If we assume Luckbox's meta makes him town (which I'm okay to right now, especially for the purposes of building this world) then the non-clears are Carousel, MIzery, tess, Wisp.

Not sure where Dizzy stands in this situation. I'll take a look after class.

Yeah, but Ender's read on Nanook re: his reads, are pretty shallow since Nanook hasn't really given any and is sheeping Gavs vote on Gav.

Why is Ender town?

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:15 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:07 am So who are your scum reads atm?
i'm voting alison. don't have strong suspicions otherwise. sorry if that's not good enough

Not sure if that last sentence is really necessary, do you?

I mean, for someone who talks about others being inhospitable, you sure seem fine tossing around your own lil comments, eh?

I'm not here to make the game unfriendly for anybody, and if I haven't come across as a friendly player, I apologize.

I'll give you some space, so you can do your thing.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:04 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:48 am
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:43 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:40 am
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:37 am what level of self-awareness are you on to look at the people who are not regulars on this website and decide "yes, these people are the ones who are most likely scum, this is fine process of elimination. i am in no way subject to cognitive biases in my thinking"
Who are you talking to with this post?

You feel you're being targeted because you're new to this site?

What level of self awareness are you on that you think you're being SR simply cyz you're new, and not based off your posts?
your whole POE is people who aren't regulars on the site

seems clear that you're just suspecting people off unfamiliarity while not wanting to vote those you know better

suggests a very biased way of thinking
I've played with Luck several times on this site, I don't consider him new.

As far as yourself & Wisp are concerned, are you gonna pretend I haven't given reasons as to why I'm SR you both?

If it's simply a case of "F the new guys", that's fairly myopic of me, don't ya think? Am I doing that as town, or as Maf in your opinion?
i mean, eah, i think it's myopic but i think you're doing it as town at this point

So who are your scum reads atm?

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:01 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:45 am
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:41 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:37 am
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:35 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:34 am Gira/Wisp/Luck is a fine POE for this RD
genuinely embarrassing
For whom?

And why? I'm gonna assume you're saying you're town here but what about the other 2? What's your read on them and why?
liked luck early, still deciding on wisp, had some good vibes (the post about waiting for ender to drop the poetry so he could scum read him made me laugh), other stuff not sure about yet
What did you like about Luck early on?

As far as Wisp goes, you seem to be basing an unsure TR off him having a funny post.

So how do you scum hunt? Go after the players who don't make you laugh?

I mean you said the POE was genuinely embarrassing, so I thought you'd have a bit more substance to your thoughts as to why the players in it are town.
this is silly but early on, in the very first hour of the game, felt like he was antsy to get things going and slightly frustrated with the slow start where i'd expect scum in that situation to be more okay with just hanging back. that was slight but since then i've felt his posts have all been fine, nothing's struck me as bad

that's not all of what i liked about wisp but like, i felt like that post was a sentiment that felt more likely to come from town, i don't know how to explain it

like, a lot of his post so far have been null to me in that i'd expect him to have this blase attitude toward the early game as either alignment, approach to alison was a little weird but still digging into it. i vaguely remember liking some things he said but that was last night

most of what i feel so far is going off gut, i don't particularly have strong reads especially early day 1 (and i still consider this early). i mostly view people in a grey area until something moves me one way or the other, i won't town clear someone off flimsy reasoning

i don't need to have firm reads to see that there's a clear bias in the way you're thinking that is unlikely to yield success and is really inhospitable to deal with

Am I town, or am I scum?

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:43 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:40 am
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:37 am what level of self-awareness are you on to look at the people who are not regulars on this website and decide "yes, these people are the ones who are most likely scum, this is fine process of elimination. i am in no way subject to cognitive biases in my thinking"
Who are you talking to with this post?

You feel you're being targeted because you're new to this site?

What level of self awareness are you on that you think you're being SR simply cyz you're new, and not based off your posts?
your whole POE is people who aren't regulars on the site

seems clear that you're just suspecting people off unfamiliarity while not wanting to vote those you know better

suggests a very biased way of thinking

I've played with Luck several times on this site, I don't consider him new.

As far as yourself & Wisp are concerned, are you gonna pretend I haven't given reasons as to why I'm SR you both?

If it's simply a case of "F the new guys", that's fairly myopic of me, don't ya think? Am I doing that as town, or as Maf in your opinion?

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:41 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:37 am
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:35 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:34 am Gira/Wisp/Luck is a fine POE for this RD
genuinely embarrassing
For whom?

And why? I'm gonna assume you're saying you're town here but what about the other 2? What's your read on them and why?
liked luck early, still deciding on wisp, had some good vibes (the post about waiting for ender to drop the poetry so he could scum read him made me laugh), other stuff not sure about yet

What did you like about Luck early on?

As far as Wisp goes, you seem to be basing an unsure TR off him having a funny post.

So how do you scum hunt? Go after the players who don't make you laugh?

I mean you said the POE was genuinely embarrassing, so I thought you'd have a bit more substance to your thoughts as to why the players in it are town.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:37 am what level of self-awareness are you on to look at the people who are not regulars on this website and decide "yes, these people are the ones who are most likely scum, this is fine process of elimination. i am in no way subject to cognitive biases in my thinking"

Who are you talking to with this post?

You feel you're being targeted because you're new to this site?

What level of self awareness are you on that you think you're being SR simply cyz you're new, and not based off your posts?

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:35 am came here trying to rehab my town game because i've been unhappy with the way i'm playing, instead i'm going to go back to a primal state and just kill people who annoy me and notcare about trying to figure out if they're "genuine" or not

That's a towny attitude right there

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:35 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:34 am Gira/Wisp/Luck is a fine POE for this RD
genuinely embarrassing

For whom?

And why? I'm gonna assume you're saying you're town here but what about the other 2? What's your read on them and why?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:35 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:19 am The only reason that dissonance exists is because you and ender are playing in a way that makes this game unfun for me to interact with, so my posts are being less about solving and more about being oetty
Meh. If my poetry made it unfun, sorry. Not intended. Was trying to be quirky and fun since my brain otherwise isn't co-operating.

I'll drop it then.

I should vote you for buckling to peer pressure

Gira/Wisp/Luck is a fine POE for this RD

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:22 pm @falcon45ca
Honestly I still don't even think that Lucky claimed a PR nor do I care at this point
I just don't understand why u don't take it as NAI

also if Falcon's wolf game is bad just like their town game, I am more inclined to believe they are making these strings of posts from the perspective of a bad town
is this a bad read? it probably is, who knows

I mean, if you don't care, I don't really know why that matters.

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:02 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:52 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:49 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:37 pm Why is it sus?
also ok boomer
Is it as cool to call people a boomer as it is to call them a snowflake?

Asking for a friend
do people actually still call others a snowflake?
asking for a friend
Funny, I had the same question about boomer
answer my question
also u say that so and so, should see you as town here, why?
idk peoples names and since this site brings up a new window, I don't feel like making a new tab to check
so my second question is, why? is your town and wolf game, so polarized, that your alignment is that obvious?
or am I am reading this the wrong way, because that doesn't seem like the sort of play style to be proud of
Dizzy and I just wolfed & won together in our last game.

Yeah, I'm fairly lousy at Mafia as both Town & Maf actually. I'm not proud of it, it's just the truth.

You're right tho, clicking a button to make a new window is just exhausting.
so what makes you town here then?

You'd be better off asking someone who's town reading me, don't you think?

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:52 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:49 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:37 pm Why is it sus?
also ok boomer
Is it as cool to call people a boomer as it is to call them a snowflake?

Asking for a friend
do people actually still call others a snowflake?
asking for a friend
Funny, I had the same question about boomer
answer my question
also u say that so and so, should see you as town here, why?
idk peoples names and since this site brings up a new window, I don't feel like making a new tab to check
so my second question is, why? is your town and wolf game, so polarized, that your alignment is that obvious?
or am I am reading this the wrong way, because that doesn't seem like the sort of play style to be proud of

Dizzy and I just wolfed & won together in our last game.

Yeah, I'm fairly lousy at Mafia as both Town & Maf actually. I'm not proud of it, it's just the truth.

You're right tho, clicking a button to make a new window is just exhausting.

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:49 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:37 pm Why is it sus?
also ok boomer
Is it as cool to call people a boomer as it is to call them a snowflake?

Asking for a friend
do people actually still call others a snowflake?
asking for a friend

But to answer your original question, it's sus cuz it's a big AtE based off a different game on a different site with different players.

Whole lotta "nobody understands me, but this one time they were wrong and I was right"

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:49 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:37 pm Why is it sus?
also ok boomer
Is it as cool to call people a boomer as it is to call them a snowflake?

Asking for a friend
do people actually still call others a snowflake?
asking for a friend

Funny, I had the same question about boomer

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:48 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:17 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:03 pm Wisp has spent the greater part,
Explaining why we shouldn't,
Townread or begin to start,
A towncore, that we couldn't.
Imma vote you out of mild annoyance if you keep this up
If in effort to dissuade,
You have put those words at me,
My time is spent, I'm afraid,
Rhyming quite gleefully

It is kinda funny

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:37 pm Why is it sus?
also ok boomer

Is it as cool to call people a boomer as it is to call them a snowflake?

Asking for a friend

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:29 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:08 pm

Purple is very close to red, as it's red & blue mixed together.

It ain't green, that's for sure, so my vote stays. You gonna claim your role now, or wait til later?
I'll wait until 1 minute before EoD if I'm the lead wagon.
@Dyslexicon What do you call this? He also mentioned his role being in a different color than green...so yeah, if you don't wanna call this a claim, be my guest. Again, I ain't buying it
"Buying" what? Even if it was a soft claim, it's totally meaningless for Lucky's alignment. He already told you that he would 100% claim a power role as any role in this game, like so many other people would. As I would too.

Why is this scum indicative to you?

None of the statements you're pointing to are direct claims either.
I think it's better to just leave the whole claim discussion anyway.
If you think he could be a power town, it's not in town's benefit to out him, even though I personally don't give much of a fart lol

If Luck's town, I'll find him I'm sure. I'm definitely not gonna take his word that he'd 100% claim a power role...you'd be surprised how often people say 100% and it just ain't so.

At any rate, I'd think after our last game together you already know I'm not scum.

Do you feel you're solving by questioning about this stuff? Would you say you're trying to solve my slot, or are you defending Luck?

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:25 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:27 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
So you like voting Town?
Nice!

Why are you TR me?

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:17 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:10 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:09 pm Wait where I have told people we couldn't town read anyone?
Think he’s referring to the Towncore Dizzy is making.
I don't towncofe people, if others want to do it, fine, but I haven't seen a decent explanation on many of them if any of them have from what I skimmed at work. And if your town core includes a person because they ate dirt or something, that means little to nothing to me.

Not surprised people dislike my playstyle, this happened in my first game on DLP, even though my read list that people hounded me for, had two wolves in my poe, and I was voting one of them. And it got called bad by wolves and town alike. Kek

That whole 2nd paragraph is sus

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:03 pm Wisp has spent the greater part,
Explaining why we shouldn't,
Townread or begin to start,
A towncore, that we couldn't.

Imma vote you out of mild annoyance if you keep this up

Mizery wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:03 pm in other worlds my coffee is now cold but I don't wanna go back downstairs to the microwave and heat it up

Who else is in your scum chat?

To even consider microwaving coffee is basically a crime against humanity

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:04 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:59 pm I'm a baby!

Green baby that is, check my inbox if you don't believe me

Villagers are red in Syn games.

Falcon outted.
Baby is spelt green, and Evil Baby is spelt red.

I'd say you're the one who's outted

[VOTE: Luck] aubergine
My role was in purple.

@Dyslexicon Yeah, that's a claim. I've got green, Evil baby's in red, so what's this to you then?

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:08 pm

Purple is very close to red, as it's red & blue mixed together.

It ain't green, that's for sure, so my vote stays. You gonna claim your role now, or wait til later?
I'll wait until 1 minute before EoD if I'm the lead wagon.

@Dyslexicon What do you call this? He also mentioned his role being in a different color than green...so yeah, if you don't wanna call this a claim, be my guest. Again, I ain't buying it

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:27 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:27 pmI don't see the point of questioning me over questioning an unforced claim.
He didn't claim.

Yes he did.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:27 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Redundant, you've already done this ITT. You gonna make it official, or just fringe some more?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:22 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:20 pmI disagree. If player's want to make claims, then they should make the claim, not soft around the edges.
Also, this is all good and well to say. But people joke claim, cover claim, wifom claim etc all the time. What are you going to do about it? Policy vote and not solve the game? I think not.

It very well could be a joke, cover, wifom, etc etc. I don't know.

I don't see the point of questioning me over questioning an unforced claim.

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:53 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:50 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:47 pm Why would I slide them into my town reads? I don't believe claiming a role in an open setup in the first few hours of the game is towny. Why should I keep quiet? You think Maf didn't notice?
so why was your first response to pressure him to out specifics about his role if you think he's fakeclaiming
Its an open setup, there's only 2 roles possible. He's the one who claimed, under no pressure btw, so he may as well just come clean if he is in fact what he claims.

Why are you acting like it's more complicated than that? Again, your reasoning doesn't really make sense from a town perspective
okay but you just said you don't think it's towny

so why would you care at all

the necessity to "coming clean" implies the perspective that he could be making that statement as town

further, why would specifically outing be necessary at all rather than letting mafia take a guess as whether he's claiming for real or wifoming them

the pressure there from you doesn't make sense

Oh, well you see Town don't have info...they're trying to get info. So asking for more info is what I'm doing, and I care cuz' I'm town.

Yeah, he could be town. That's why I want more info, and that's why I'm pressuring him...for info. Cuz town ya know...don't have that.

[VOTE: Gira] aubergine

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