SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:09 pm
@Mayo the Mayo @falcon45ca do you mind highlighting your Creature argument?
I'm sure I read it somewhere but I can't remember, and I don't have any points for Creature in either direction.
Creature's been present, but just barely, and his reasons for...well, every vote I've seen (2?) have been pretty garbage IMO
I'm not great at explaining things but this ain't it.
I expect falcon to be kinda quiet and in the background someone you have to look for and most people will forget about but has posts that are extremely informative if you bother to pay attention
But here he's in the forefront leading and loudly pushing narratives. This isn't what I expect.
I find the few times I've seen town!Falcon fiery D1, it is more inquisitive aggressiveness, whereas here it doesn't really feel inquisitive.
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:36 pm
@Sloonei What do you think of Neon (I think) saying falcon feels OOC?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
I'm thinking about it. Particularly interested in Neon agreeing he's not acting normal. Trying to source opinions from other Syndicats to see their opinions
@Seanzie It's reasonable to assume looking at the way PVS keeps referring back to Neon specifically, and the tone in general, that they're not SR her slot.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and PVS is trying to get a read on Neon based off their read on me? But it doesn't feel that way at all, it feels like PVS is TR Neon, or at the very least has her above null
I don't see what you're pushing here. I agree that I get no vibe of a SR on Neon, but I also don't really get a "townread" vibe. Instead Neon said you're acting funny, and someone who doesn't know you well, and likely assumes Neon does, took that to heart.
They look like they're trying to make a meta-based push on you without having the meta to do so, so they're citing the sources of their meta. Nothing big about this.
Well, maybe that's just a vibe approach difference then to how I see the game..if I'm not SRing, I'm TRing by default
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:36 pm
@Sloonei What do you think of Neon (I think) saying falcon feels OOC?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
I'm thinking about it. Particularly interested in Neon agreeing he's not acting normal. Trying to source opinions from other Syndicats to see their opinions
@Seanzie It's reasonable to assume looking at the way PVS keeps referring back to Neon specifically, and the tone in general, that they're not SR her slot.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and PVS is trying to get a read on Neon based off their read on me? But it doesn't feel that way at all, it feels like PVS is TR Neon, or at the very least has her above null
I think Sloonei and Falcon are unlikely to be packmates anyhow but if Neon has a history of reading Falcon accurately than hmm
Why are you TR Neon? Are you sheeping other player's reads on her slot?
Did I say I'm TRing Neon? SVS said Neon reads you better than SVS does, implying a decent read rate. And neon said you're acting weird. If Zenge is also saying you're scummy, then there's a common denominator.
It's implied you're TR Neon if you're looking for her take on my slot to inform your read, yes
I don't find this to be an accurate take.
Also, who said Falcon feels normal?
Oh? Do you normally ask players who you are SRing to inform your read on a slot?
I ask players who I am uncertain on to inform my reads on a slot.
Do you feel that's how PVS is approaching Neon w/ regards to my slot?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
For fear of raising the wrath of Zenge, I thought Falcon had some points.
I generally have a hard time reading Falcon; coming in here seeing him engage, I thought maybe I was getting a grip on his game. I thought he looked very civvie. And Sloonei i think was not so much defending Falcon as he was explaining someones Meta. I think he was trying to be helpful. I don't know that I think Sloonei would come in Day 1 to defend a teammate in that way, when he could easily be called out by people with more Falcon experience.
BUT Neon does read Falcon much better than I, so I need to see what she says.
I think Sloonei and Falcon are unlikely to be packmates anyhow but if Neon has a history of reading Falcon accurately than hmm
Why are you TR Neon? Are you sheeping other player's reads on her slot?
Did I say I'm TRing Neon? SVS said Neon reads you better than SVS does, implying a decent read rate. And neon said you're acting weird. If Zenge is also saying you're scummy, then there's a common denominator.
It's implied you're TR Neon if you're looking for her take on my slot to inform your read, yes
I don't find this to be an accurate take.
Also, who said Falcon feels normal?
Oh? Do you normally ask players who you are SRing to inform your read on a slot?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
For fear of raising the wrath of Zenge, I thought Falcon had some points.
I generally have a hard time reading Falcon; coming in here seeing him engage, I thought maybe I was getting a grip on his game. I thought he looked very civvie. And Sloonei i think was not so much defending Falcon as he was explaining someones Meta. I think he was trying to be helpful. I don't know that I think Sloonei would come in Day 1 to defend a teammate in that way, when he could easily be called out by people with more Falcon experience.
BUT Neon does read Falcon much better than I, so I need to see what she says.
I think Sloonei and Falcon are unlikely to be packmates anyhow but if Neon has a history of reading Falcon accurately than hmm
Why are you TR Neon? Are you sheeping other player's reads on her slot?
How are you reading Neon?
There's a feisty-ness to her tone in certain posts that I've come to associate w/ towny Neon
Who are you wolf reading other than me?
I actually feel a bit better about your slot...I've gotten into enough dust-ups w/ town before to know some of the signs, so
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
For fear of raising the wrath of Zenge, I thought Falcon had some points.
I generally have a hard time reading Falcon; coming in here seeing him engage, I thought maybe I was getting a grip on his game. I thought he looked very civvie. And Sloonei i think was not so much defending Falcon as he was explaining someones Meta. I think he was trying to be helpful. I don't know that I think Sloonei would come in Day 1 to defend a teammate in that way, when he could easily be called out by people with more Falcon experience.
BUT Neon does read Falcon much better than I, so I need to see what she says.
I think Sloonei and Falcon are unlikely to be packmates anyhow but if Neon has a history of reading Falcon accurately than hmm
Why are you TR Neon? Are you sheeping other player's reads on her slot?
How are you reading Neon?
There's a feisty-ness to her tone in certain posts that I've come to associate w/ towny Neon
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
For fear of raising the wrath of Zenge, I thought Falcon had some points.
I generally have a hard time reading Falcon; coming in here seeing him engage, I thought maybe I was getting a grip on his game. I thought he looked very civvie. And Sloonei i think was not so much defending Falcon as he was explaining someones Meta. I think he was trying to be helpful. I don't know that I think Sloonei would come in Day 1 to defend a teammate in that way, when he could easily be called out by people with more Falcon experience.
BUT Neon does read Falcon much better than I, so I need to see what she says.
I think Sloonei and Falcon are unlikely to be packmates anyhow but if Neon has a history of reading Falcon accurately than hmm
Why are you TR Neon? Are you sheeping other player's reads on her slot?
Did I say I'm TRing Neon? SVS said Neon reads you better than SVS does, implying a decent read rate. And neon said you're acting weird. If Zenge is also saying you're scummy, then there's a common denominator.
It's implied you're TR Neon if you're looking for her take on my slot to inform your read, yes
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:47 pm
@pyxxy you mentioned I was acting weird. Does that make me suspicious or are you just pointing at things and harrumphing?
I'm suspicious that you've got something going on. There is something tbd about your posting that is related to your role somehow. I can feel it from how your big animal+alignment posts.
Doesn't mean your scummy. Doesn't mean we can't win together if you're 3p.
This is one of the most polite role fishes I think I've ever seen
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
For fear of raising the wrath of Zenge, I thought Falcon had some points.
I generally have a hard time reading Falcon; coming in here seeing him engage, I thought maybe I was getting a grip on his game. I thought he looked very civvie. And Sloonei i think was not so much defending Falcon as he was explaining someones Meta. I think he was trying to be helpful. I don't know that I think Sloonei would come in Day 1 to defend a teammate in that way, when he could easily be called out by people with more Falcon experience.
BUT Neon does read Falcon much better than I, so I need to see what she says.
I think Sloonei and Falcon are unlikely to be packmates anyhow but if Neon has a history of reading Falcon accurately than hmm
Why are you TR Neon? Are you sheeping other player's reads on her slot?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:40 pm
@NateTheLesser Why are you voting Zenge?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Game Fast.
14 pages.
Haven't read.
ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?
@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?
His comment on whether Scotty was role fishing seemed like reachy shade for page 1 of day 0 (especially since our animals aren't tied to role/alignment).
But I'm not sure I want to help yeet a SDNer on day one, so I'll see how I feel as I catch up. Dennis also struck me as slightly over-serious during D0.
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
I think falcon has won the most games this past year for good reason and could fool as either alignment
He should probably be yeeted just in case tho
Have I ever fooled anyone into thinking I was Maf when I was Town...
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
I think falcon has won the most games this past year for good reason and could fool as either alignment
He should probably be yeeted just in case tho
Have I ever fooled anyone into thinking I was Maf when I was Town...
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
@falcon45ca Care to comment on your status as a lightning rod and source of division?
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:02 pm
This is a wolf, full stop.
I'd say it looks more like a falcon. This is what he does.
When you say “this is what he does”, it sounds like you’re saying “this is NAI”, is that correct?
Not necessarily. I would lean very slightly towards a town read on him. But, at the very least, he should not be scumread for playing the role of antagonist like this.
I actually think falcon is kinda behaving out of character
falcon is not happy with the results of Meta Maf, and has become the chorus of Manhattan Skyline
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:58 pm
Boy I am angry and exhausted
Mechanically outted
This post deserved some lols.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:24 pm
Well one thing’s for sure- Miranda wagon came out of nowhere and while I don’t think it’s odd, they are not going to be the leading wagon at end of day. Mark my words
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:53 pm
inb4 ‘sounds like you’re defending your partner miranda’
Sure thing
In Midwife’s defense she has a pretty unique play style and cadence that can come off as stiff, and at times people, especially people who aren’t used to playing with her, find it extremely Wolfy despite it being NAI.
So I’d tread cautiously on this one. There’s generally more accurate ways to solve Midwife. She typically doesn’t bus, for example.
a vote on Dennis, whom you likely don't know and some people from TS have expressed suspicion on, but IMO they look fine thus far.
A weird post saying that the first thing that probably actually matters (the 3-vote wagon) wasn't important.
then a lot of questions that don't seem to be designed to go anywhere and hedgy non-takes where you comment on things but the comments are all "This isn't AI" or "that's not enough to form a read".
This looks like an archetype wolf entrance into the game.
I'm not convinced, but if nothing else this push seems very town
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:50 am
@Neon , I was just looking for clarity. AM’s wording could be read either way, and I didn’t want to make assumptions with a person new to me.
Dope
SVS
Sean
Neon
AM
All obv town
Game ez
Could you clarify the Sean village read to me? I'm not sure if I'm getting tilted.
Could you clarify the Sean village read to me? I'm not sure if I'm getting tilted.
So uh Sean is a player who will probably tilt you yes and who defs picks people and hard tunnels them early to "get the game started" and who believes in these tiny little reads that I think are rarely actually right and who will later on probably get so far behind he will just ask people who to vote
Buttttt has very good at what he does and you just have to read into if he believes what he's tunneling and with you I think he does or if he's making it up for a valid reason if he doesn't believe it like to get out of rvs or something.
As wolf I think he tends to hard tunnel with kid gloves and doesn't have the conviction behind it.
^endorsed
he is indeed tilting at times but the way he seemed (imo) to eventually leave this conversation seems towny (imo)
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:00 am
I am excited to finally play a game with you where I am not a wolf.
same!
dyachei/marmot w/t confirmed
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:16 am
Sloonei is prodding in random places, which while I don't think is hard town meta for him to replicate, it does look like his town meta, so I would give him a townlean for now.
Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?
*squints*
Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct
It’s a mixed bag. We’ve got a lot of folks from a lot of different mafia backgrounds here. Some say “mafia”, some say “wolf”, some say “baddies”. They are all interchangeable and depend on who you’re speaking to. JJJ uses mafia.
I am Sporty. This is my fifth WW game and I favor highposters.
Oh we are gonna be best friends
The only thing that was true there is that she is Sporty. This being her fifth WW game and loving high posters were aggressively lies. I’m 76% sure she’s vig shot people for high posting.
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:58 pm
Boy I am angry and exhausted
Mechanically outted
This post deserved some lols.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:24 pm
Well one thing’s for sure- Miranda wagon came out of nowhere and while I don’t think it’s odd, they are not going to be the leading wagon at end of day. Mark my words
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:53 pm
inb4 ‘sounds like you’re defending your partner miranda’
Sure thing
In Midwife’s defense she has a pretty unique play style and cadence that can come off as stiff, and at times people, especially people who aren’t used to playing with her, find it extremely Wolfy despite it being NAI.
So I’d tread cautiously on this one. There’s generally more accurate ways to solve Midwife. She typically doesn’t bus, for example.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:37 am
Don't know 'em well enough to say for sure, but they look like it.
Share with the class
If I recap your ISO, it is
*fluff* then
a vote on Dennis, whom you likely don't know and some people from TS have expressed suspicion on, but IMO they look fine thus far.
A weird post saying that the first thing that probably actually matters (the 3-vote wagon) wasn't important.
then a lot of questions that don't seem to be designed to go anywhere and hedgy non-takes where you comment on things but the comments are all "This isn't AI" or "that's not enough to form a read".
This looks like an archetype wolf entrance into the game.
I'm not convinced, but if nothing else this push seems very town
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:50 am
@Neon , I was just looking for clarity. AM’s wording could be read either way, and I didn’t want to make assumptions with a person new to me.
Dope
SVS
Sean
Neon
AM
All obv town
Game ez
Could you clarify the Sean village read to me? I'm not sure if I'm getting tilted.
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:50 am
@Neon , I was just looking for clarity. AM’s wording could be read either way, and I didn’t want to make assumptions with a person new to me.
Dope
SVS
Sean
Neon
AM
All obv town
Game ez
Could you clarify the Sean village read to me? I'm not sure if I'm getting tilted.
So uh Sean is a player who will probably tilt you yes and who defs picks people and hard tunnels them early to "get the game started" and who believes in these tiny little reads that I think are rarely actually right and who will later on probably get so far behind he will just ask people who to vote
Buttttt has very good at what he does and you just have to read into if he believes what he's tunneling and with you I think he does or if he's making it up for a valid reason if he doesn't believe it like to get out of rvs or something.
As wolf I think he tends to hard tunnel with kid gloves and doesn't have the conviction behind it.
^endorsed
he is indeed tilting at times but the way he seemed (imo) to eventually leave this conversation seems towny (imo)
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:00 am
I am excited to finally play a game with you where I am not a wolf.
same!
dyachei/marmot w/t confirmed
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:16 am
Sloonei is prodding in random places, which while I don't think is hard town meta for him to replicate, it does look like his town meta, so I would give him a townlean for now.
Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?
*squints*
Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct
It’s a mixed bag. We’ve got a lot of folks from a lot of different mafia backgrounds here. Some say “mafia”, some say “wolf”, some say “baddies”. They are all interchangeable and depend on who you’re speaking to. JJJ uses mafia.
I am Sporty. This is my fifth WW game and I favor highposters.
Oh we are gonna be best friends
The only thing that was true there is that she is Sporty. This being her fifth WW game and loving high posters were aggressively lies. I’m 76% sure she’s vig shot people for high posting.
It's just her tone.
But I mentored someone else during her first game, modded her second, and if I did play with her, it was after subbing in on like D2 for someone who was digging themselves a hole.
Edit: meaning I need to refer back to some old games to see if this is legit or not
I guess I missed it, what's her tone diff that you're seeing here?
Sporty voice: tone
Like a Fender vs Gibson kinda thing?
More like a Breedlove vs Seagull thing
hmmmmmmmmmmm
I'm getting a vibe here. Apologies if it's wrong.
[VOTE:
SportPonies] aubergine, explanation in spoiler, and no it's not satisfying
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:12 pm
@miranda920 Are you a Breedlove or a Seagull?
Excuse my ignorance, what is a Breedlove? I am neither
Scotty was pretty close with their guess! I was pretty impressed!
Do you have any thoughts of the game so far?
I’ve been at work all morning so I haven’t caught up really
I feel like Scotty is town, it feels like they really put a lot of thought as to which animals we are
I’m unsurprised that Santy is trying to push me
I feel like everyone always tone reads me as wolfy so, meh
I haven’t looked too much at anyone individually so I don’t have any reads for you ATM
Why is trying to figure out animals village exactly? Also, I think this is the chillest I've even seen you when getting pushed.
Well those were also reads given too, Scotty guess the animal and gave a read
I also am a lot less stressed in my life than I was last game when I was getting pushed. Maybe also just feeling a little better about WW in general, not as insecure.
Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?
*squints*
Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct
It’s a mixed bag. We’ve got a lot of folks from a lot of different mafia backgrounds here. Some say “mafia”, some say “wolf”, some say “baddies”. They are all interchangeable and depend on who you’re speaking to. JJJ uses mafia.
We should change "Mafia" or "Wolf" to simply "JJJ" from now on
a vote on Dennis, whom you likely don't know and some people from TS have expressed suspicion on, but IMO they look fine thus far.
A weird post saying that the first thing that probably actually matters (the 3-vote wagon) wasn't important.
then a lot of questions that don't seem to be designed to go anywhere and hedgy non-takes where you comment on things but the comments are all "This isn't AI" or "that's not enough to form a read".
This looks like an archetype wolf entrance into the game.
All the fluff was from D0. I don't know why you're acting like I've been wasting D1 avoiding any solving.
Which people from TS said Dennis was an issue before my vote? And are you confidently saying he's village when he's barely posted any content? Why does my familiarity with Dennis matter?
Where did I say that any wagon doesn't matter?
You're selectively reading and misinterpreting because the people I said were NAI have posted minimal to zero content. Either you're TMIing them or you're stumbling whole making up reasoning to push me that a full lie. I'm wondering if it's a roundabout way to protect Dennis.
I'm not. I'm just recapping your ISO. Did you not fluff into your Dennis vote?
Don't remember, don't know what this question does to further our conversation though unless you think I'm lying.
My point is that while I could see someone familiar with Dennis possibly seeing something meta-related to justify suspicion at this point, I don't think someone not familiar with Dennis would. If you are seeing something, then please share with the class. If not, it seems like an opportunistic vote.
You didn't say exactly that, but this post IMO feels like discouraging discussion about the first real thing that happened:
Zenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:20 pm
I do not like the Miranda wagon. This is happening too fast
3 out of 24 votes is hardly anything to get worked up about especially with over 47 hours left.
Is this OMGUS I see?
If my vote were a joke, you'd know. Every vote of mine has a reason.
I believe you're misrepresenting so please show your work.
I don't need meta to try and form reads on people. I'm going to ask you something point blank again. Are you village reading Dennis? If so, tell me exactly what's he's done that's outside of his wolf range. I want Dennis to bring the energy I saw him fluffing with yesterday.
Do you agree that Miranda's wagon is suspicious and that it happened too quickly?
What exactly are you calling OMGUS?
I asked you to explain your vote. I am willing to work with you, but right now this seems one sided since when you have asked me to explain, I have done so. Please show me the same courtesy.
Neon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:29 pm
Dennis is a wolf
I am neither scumreading or townreading Dennis.
I believe Miranda's wagon likely has AI info.
I think the highlighted text makes it very clear what I'm calling OMGUS.
I already answered in this very post that you quoted.
What information would you get from a miranda village flip? What info would you get from a miranda wolf flip?
Why did you quote Neon? Also, if you don't have a read on Dennis, why is me pressuring him an issue?
Sorry, I think you need to be yeeted. I feel like you're deliberately talking past me.
You didn't say anything about Dennis, aside from ask me about them. Unless if your reason was "I want Dennis to bring the energy I saw him fluffing with yesterday." which... uhh... you think a naked vote is going to have that sort of effect on anyone?
I don't know what info Miranda's wagon has, but I am shit sure it has info.
You literally asked me to! you asked me to provide receipts, I provided receipts. You're just asking for busy work as a distraction, or what?
Don't put words into my mouth, please. I pointed out that your vote on Dennis could be opportunistic. This has been explained. Why are you trying to go in circles? Just to obfuscate my points?
It has been a trying night. My only comfort in those long hours was the knowledge that you were safely back at home.
Whilst I was in the depths of my despair, I had the most wonderful surprise!
As I am sure you must already be aware, mother has decided to come join me. I was worried she wouldn't recognize me. Time and distance have aged me nearly beyond recognition.
I could sense the trepidation in her face as she first looked upon me, and I must confess, the waters of my soul were near breaching the levees to my sanity when she at first seemed not to recognize my face. Alas, a mother's love does is not yet limited by spacial or temporal boundaries.
The wildlife here is wonderful, but I cannot shake the underlying sense of foreboding whenever I brave the wilderness. Abigail, I hear voices. I see visions.
Terrible visions.
Please keep me in your thoughts as you must know you are in mine.
-Mayo
PS Les voix disent bonjour à maman
Are these kind of posts normal for Mayo?
Do you think such a post is AI?
No, I'm just curious if I'm gonna be reading more of these letters that make no sense to me
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:36 pm
OK, I'm done w/ Zenge for now. I feel he's intentionally bogging down discussion on a single topic, and so!
Moving on
I don’t think so. Answer my question, Falcon.
Why do you believe that my trying to guess how wolves would approach the game, and then looking to see if anyone is doing what I expect wolves to do, isn’t a “Towny Mindset”?
Cuz' you don't follow up or question any of those players that are doing the exact thing you suspect wolves of doing
It has been a trying night. My only comfort in those long hours was the knowledge that you were safely back at home.
Whilst I was in the depths of my despair, I had the most wonderful surprise!
As I am sure you must already be aware, mother has decided to come join me. I was worried she wouldn't recognize me. Time and distance have aged me nearly beyond recognition.
I could sense the trepidation in her face as she first looked upon me, and I must confess, the waters of my soul were near breaching the levees to my sanity when she at first seemed not to recognize my face. Alas, a mother's love does is not yet limited by spacial or temporal boundaries.
The wildlife here is wonderful, but I cannot shake the underlying sense of foreboding whenever I brave the wilderness. Abigail, I hear voices. I see visions.
Terrible visions.
Please keep me in your thoughts as you must know you are in mine.
Literally saying that he suspects that Maf co-ordinated a wagon on LHF player, but also doesn't feel asking anybody on the wagon as to why would help solve anything.
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:34 am
@Zenge did you have an opinion about Miranda specifically, or Moreno the speed of the votes piling on her?
This issue I have with the Miranda wagon is that Miranda is by far the newest player on SDN in this game. Technically sure players like Dr.Wilgy have played fewer games on SDN but they have a lot more experience with forum mafia in general. Miranda on the other hand, I could count the number of games she’s played on one hand probably, maybe an extra finger? Thats games she’s played EVER.
I think it’s reasonable to assume there’s a mix of Syndicate and SDN players in the wolf pack. I think it’s reasonable to assume that one of the first conversations that would have taken place would be to formulate a list of players that would be the easiest to misyeet. From the SDN side, Miranda would have been the TOP of that list.
So when I see the first real cycle open, and within a half hour of a 48 hour cycle, there are already 3 votes on the player who I suspect would have been talked about in wolf chat as the best place to deliver a misyeet, it raises my suspicions and feels rather concerning.
I don’t have a read on Miranda. I honestly don’t believe anyone in this game could have a legitimate read on Miranda at this juncture.
Given that, I find it unlikely that by coincidence within the first half hour of a 48 hour cycle, that three villagers independently claim to have a wolf read on someone who just so happens to be the one player I think would be the most likely choice for wolves to try and misyeet.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:35 am
So, what is your gripe?
For the record, when someone says "I don't like this cuz of X", I will always assume that X is their primary reason.
When you say "I don't like this wagon, cuz it's happening too quickly" I assume you don't like the wagon, cuz it's happening too quickly.
When I asked you why you haven't followed up w/ any of the wagon voters, and get a whole lotta deflection w/ no real answers, well that doesn't really seem like you care to solve the wagon at all.
The irony of being told by a player who doesn't question players on a wagon he doesn't like that I'm not solving...
I gave my response to why I don’t like the Miranda wagon to Marmot.
And I already told you previously that going to each of the Miranda voters and asking them “Why are you voting for Miranda” isn’t something I believe would yield fruit. It’s not how I solve the game. I was more interested it watching them to see how they behaved further. Asking them directly puts a spotlight on them and leads to them likely obfuscating their behavior. You’ve ruined that now.
Your entire argument against me here, is that “I’m not asking players on a wagon I don’t like about their votes.” Despite my telling you my reason for not asking, twice now.
So essentially your reason for wolf reading me and voting for me is that I’m not playing the game within the very ridged confines of how you think I should play the game. I’m not solving the way you think I should solve. Which is a terrible reason to wolf read someone. Everyone has different ways of solving and playing the game.
Lastly I didn’t appreciate your “doth protest too much comment”. It was unnecessarily antagonistic, and certainly not what I would expect from a legitimate villager looking to gather information and solve the game.
