The Syndicate

Thanks for the host @chardonnay!! GG Maf, well deserved victory.

Told you turkeys I was town. I wouldn't lie about that kinda stuff, next time you'll believe me

Go get em' town

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:45 pm
chardonnay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:58 pm Day 3 will end 11/19/20 9:45pm EST time.

Math seems off is my vote actaully needed right here for a tien wagons doesn't look like above and i don't wanna accidently have a hammer happen.

Why do you care about a hammer happening on me? I've been one of your top scum reads since you OMGUSed D1

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 pm marmot tomorrow and sorry if i was wrong

FFS, she's already apologizing for my green flip.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:56 pm My concern is that town might get yeeted instead of mafia and there are 4 hours or so left im the day

Untrue, since I'm town & you don't seem to care. More like you're concerned actual Maf will get lynched cuz' they're your teammates.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm I wish mac had actually explained why they thought long con, wilgy, and fg were town

Then you shouldn't have MKd him.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:08 pm your first mistake was admitting you're canadian

no one likes canadians

[VOTE: TS Acct] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:19 pm Day 1:

Tutuu and Alison claimed to be Masons

fg and ts claimed to be Masons

Day 2:

Alison and Mac claimed to be Masons

Tutuu claimed vanilla townie

Mac claims nutella was his Mason target, and she's scum

Day 3:

Mac and Alison are dead Masons

ts claims they were the Masons target

The timing is far too convenient.

That's some fresh hawt garbage. TS is lying

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:26 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:42 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:17 pm wilgy, please vote falcon
Boring.

What are your thoughts if wrong about Falcon my friend? Same about Marmot?
We arent wrong mac also had the same reads

If we are wrong the game goes on and u guys can still win

Pls kill falcon and marmot first

This is actually pretty scummy, and it's def making me rethink my town read on you.

This is twice you've referenced Mac having a scum read on me as well...I wasn't red checked, and it seems like you're hanging your scum read on me based off Mac's read...almost as tho you're giving yourself someone to blame when I flip green.

Mac was wrong about me, and it def seems like you're using his death & mason status as a lock that I'm scum. So, you're of the mind that Mac got all 3 scum with his reads? The guy had no scum reads on anyone else, you think he's batting a thousand eh?

Also, what's with the "if we are wrong, game goes on and u guys can still win"? Seems like a strange perspective if you're actually town.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:15 pm Sorry pushed this to the back bunred a bit much.
As i said multiple times i think Falcon has to be wolf here Mac had the same read as well.

Funny is unlikely.
TS is still possible but also unlikely.

Also yeah hammer exsisits whats the number to hamer?

This is a quality post. No reasons for her reads on TS or FG.

Please hammer me. I'm looking forward to flipping for you potatoes

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:19 pm FTFY
I have no clue what that stands for.

Fixed that for you

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:12 pm I looked at tutuu's #943 post on Marmot (viewtopic.php?f=273&t=1967&p=686504#p686504)

And I think I would agree with it so long as Falcon flips mafia

when falcon flips town then I would review it tbh since its based mostly on Nutella + X player having bad interactions

Rather than anything on Marmot specifically.

FTFY

So when I flip Town, and I will, TS & FG would be the best places to look IMO.

Quick ISO of FG, and I don't see anything even remotely close to game solving in her posts for the majority of her posts. She has more posts about poker, the weather, and bowel movements than anything.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:44 am i haven't read the thread but i already know beyond any reasonable doubt that falcon45ca is SCUM i am surprising even myself with my scum hunting skills at the moment

fear me

This will go down as 1 of the Top 5 Worst Posts of the game...possibly all time.

Tutuu has at least been scum reading me for a bit, same with TS. What's your reasoning?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:44 am i haven't read the thread but i already know beyond any reasonable doubt that falcon45ca is SCUM i am surprising even myself with my scum hunting skills at the moment

fear me

This will go down as 1 of the Top 5 Worst Posts of the game...possibly all time.

Tutuu has at least been scum reading me for a bit, same with TS. What's your reasoning?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:35 pm I appreciate y'all. Carry it home.
Take your name out of my list and read my list. Not hard you fake scum guy.
You can Mea Culpa when we see each other in DPS, I forgive you.
Dude I ain't read shit, this is just POE and Alison's reads. No need to get your knickers in a twist.

Are you quoting the right person?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:35 pm I appreciate y'all. Carry it home.
Take your name out of my list and read my list. Not hard you fake scum guy.

You can Mea Culpa when we see each other in DPS, I forgive you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:35 pm I appreciate y'all. Carry it home.

Give us some legacy reads that don't include me as scum.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:44 pm Hey falcon, I appreciate the Tool reference in your sig.

Thanks dude, I'm a bit of a fan.

TS, TL, Dr Wilgy is my PoE.

It may feel that way, but you are wrong. My energy levels in this game right now are related to IRL stuff. I'm not Maf, and I'm not gonna spend a lot of time defending against the accusation.

I'm gonna sheep Alison and go after TS.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:28 am And by terrible i mean scummiest by my perception, not, like, dislikeable

How so?

If you think I'm scum, that's fine. You are wrong tho.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:01 pmmarmot + falcon

Nah, I'm not Maf.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:27 am So what were Marmot, Nut and Falcon doing as Nook was dying?
Better question, what was Enrique doing?

Not seeing anything in Nut's defense that makes me doubt Mac's failed mason recruitment [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:27 am So what were Marmot, Nut and Falcon doing as Nook was dying?

Better question, what was Enrique doing?

Tutuu's reads have movement & progression, and they're def coming from a game solve mindset. Wrong read on me, but they're a town lean for me.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:30 pm Alright, so Dr Wilgy & MacD are wolves.

I love that MacD called me out as a high scum read in one of his early posts, then shortly thereafter calls me bad town that he'll shelter. Cuz that makes sense.
It can't be the case that both me and ts are telling the truth.

Apologies, I'm not sure I follow?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm Alright. I'm caught up at this point.

I heavily agree with Tutuu and Alison.

Mac/Enrique has some weight in being FG/TS's third. Maybe Falcon as well?

LC and TL I find a town lean.

Gut reading a scum Martin, but I'm not sure why.
This is how scum post. Hes all caught up, and has 4 small sentences which give no rationale behind the reads. Look at the last sentence...gut read, and then he's not sure why....

Guess what? All gut reads are because you dont know why...cuz if ya did, it wouldnt be gut read, it would be a cognitive read.
This is a pretty listless push. You sure you aren't mafia?

So, you're defending Dr Wilgy? How do you know I'm not pushing scum? You've already said he could be scum...why does it seem like you're defending him?

Especially since I could just have a shitty read? You don't know...if you're town, and he's not your scum bud that you're defending now, while mild sussing him earlier

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm Alright. I'm caught up at this point.

I heavily agree with Tutuu and Alison.

Mac/Enrique has some weight in being FG/TS's third. Maybe Falcon as well?

LC and TL I find a town lean.

Gut reading a scum Martin, but I'm not sure why.
This is how scum post. Hes all caught up, and has 4 small sentences which give no rationale behind the reads. Look at the last sentence...gut read, and then he's not sure why....

Guess what? All gut reads are because you dont know why...cuz if ya did, it wouldnt be gut read, it would be a cognitive read.
This is a pretty listless push. You sure you aren't mafia?

Why is it listless?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm Alright. I'm caught up at this point.

I heavily agree with Tutuu and Alison.

Mac/Enrique has some weight in being FG/TS's third. Maybe Falcon as well?

LC and TL I find a town lean.

Gut reading a scum Martin, but I'm not sure why.

This is how scum post. Hes all caught up, and has 4 small sentences which give no rationale behind the reads. Look at the last sentence...gut read, and then he's not sure why....

Guess what? All gut reads are because you dont know why...cuz if ya did, it wouldnt be gut read, it would be a cognitive read.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:18 pm Falcon can be our resident wrong town that I shield all game

Shortly before this he said I should be turboed. Who sees this turn as towny?

Alright, so Dr Wilgy & MacD are wolves.

I love that MacD called me out as a high scum read in one of his early posts, then shortly thereafter calls me bad town that he'll shelter. Cuz that makes sense.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:57 am Votes that are posted in thread around EoD (can't look back otherwise)

falcon
Enrique
Martian
Trust Worthy
Ts account
Falcon jumps off (Noting this cause while i should)

Oh these
Falcon gives no case and lays a bear vote against a ts vote. Note: this is before funny came in and defended ts and people were looking at moving.
Enrique asks who to vote funny said maybe nanook and they voted saying nothing
Martian didn't like the town read which was also why funny disliked them (Most reason posted out of everyone one yet a concern they should have been more forward with earlyier as town)
Myself (TL) voted in order to not have tied votes it was at the time i wrote my post and changed it i think martions actially broke the tie but i rathered not mason last second.
ts account hammers it in for self pres saying its bad.

Falcon tries to jump off after EoD taking this as trying to seem more towny then they are/ still a top sus read for myself.

LC is around and didn't take a side except that no case on Nanook (Which is ture) but i honestly don't know where their vote laid.

Take this as
Mikey(TS) and Funny COULD be masons same as Alison and Tutuu am fine with letting them resolve and explain why they acted as they did cause your not all four townies.
LC needs to give reads and push them very passive Day 1. Same for Enrigue .

Thats some level 1 reads at 2am with trusty

This read on me is so bad, I think TL is town

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:56 am Imagine CFD'ing a townie while I'm asleep

It happened. Care to take a look at the wagon movement at EoD, give us some thoughts?

Enrique looked horrible jumping onto Nanook after I did.

When I jumped onto Nanook, I believe ts had 6? Nanook 2? I didn't jump off ts, but where was Enriques vote before his jump? I'll have to check.

Anyways, his jump at EOD with no thread participation leading into it? Put Nanook at 4 to ts 6, possibly 5 if Nanook jumped from that wagon.

Scum. Book it.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:50 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:32 pm SHIT EOD IS IN HALF AN HOUR

okokok
You posted twice previous to this post.

Anyone else see this panic as contrived?

3 ok's, eh? Alright, alright, alright
if one more person hones in on an insignificant detail like this one more time I'm actually going to throw up ugh

In on an...3 words with 2 letters...

3×2 = 6...6...6

Oh.my.god. You're satanic scum!

You can go puke now, but don't swallow. Trust me, it's not good

[VOTE: Enrique] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:49 pm Were they the real deal? funnygurl had responded correctly to the mason check, corroborating ts account's claim. It seemed likely that the claim was either real, or that they were wolves together.

If they were wolves, and ts survived, then surely we would be tipped off when the nightkill failed to take one of them out. They would be exposed.

The 2nd bit looks a clever way to setup a future mislynch.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:32 pm SHIT EOD IS IN HALF AN HOUR

okokok

You posted twice previous to this post.

Anyone else see this panic as contrived?

3 ok's, eh? Alright, alright, alright

[VOTE: Namook] aubergine

The wagon on ts is a little too easy methinks

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:32 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:18 am alright so martin is good, falcon is too trigger happy and i don't know what to make of it. leaning sus atm though

my reads
Who have I pulled the trigger on that made you the most sus? Pew pew pew
i don't remember off the top of my head but it was like 2 people in a row and like not everyone can be scum. but i also don't know your playstyle well really

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:05 am i dream of becoming a stand up comedian
LMFAO WHO ARE YOU

Hi. I'm Vanilla Town, and it's D1.

I know that not everyone I sus is scum, and I'm ok with that. Cuz town make mistakes, bad reads, etc, as we don't have much info, especially this early on.

If even 1 of the players who I found scummy based off their entrance is a wolf? I'm more than ok with that.

Where's Enrique, having a siesta? He seems content to post some derp clear, I'm not sure what's happening style stuff, but has seemed largely absent since.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:21 pm it's a scum tell and I would lynch them for it

Agreed it's scummy. It makes it more difficult to communicate, and can be easily used to avoid directly engaging with other players, as well as obfuscate responses.

It's not a lynchable offense for me ATM, but it does set of my spidey sense

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:07 pm I disagree fundamentally with your statement that wolves often have awkward first posts
only bad wolves do

anyway this is probably becoming irrelevant to the game

Some players are not comfortable being wolves. It's pretty well documented that people who have more information than they're allowed to show can have behaviors & interactions that can be categorized as awkward.

You're right tho, this is a convo best had outside the game.

How do you feel about LongCon's 3rd person limited omniscient posting?

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:50 pm saying wolves' first posts are awkward is super reductive and implies that rolling wolf would have an adverse affect on most or all people who roll it

you're never going to find wolves by lynching off first posts

I said often awkward, and then described the progress after said awkward wolf entrances.

You certainly can find wolves based off entrance posts, and again that's not exactly what I was saying, as outlined above and in the original post.

I'm not advocating to lynch exclusively off awkward first posts, it's simply one of many tools that can be used while scum hunting.

You've never caught scum off entrances? I have, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:31 pm 1st post by wolves are often awkward
yes wolves are bad at mafia always

Not what I said. Interesting that's what you took out of it

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:31 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:14 pm I'm still curious... To anyone who wants to answer. What's the case on TL again?
People disliked my first post was the main case cause i said a word twice
getting busyier now so will try to keep an eye around for questions
That's not why I scum read your intro. It read like a wolf trying to act casual entering the thread. 1st post by wolves are often awkward, with odd jokes and a je na sais quoi element, as it's hard to enter a discussion with more info than everyone else and act the same. It becomes easier as the conversations develop of course, and your posting since your entrance certainly fits the bill.

Yeah, I'm still scum reading you. Do you have a reason for sussing me, outside of OMGUS? If OMGUS is all you have, that's cool, no hard feelings.

I also find your scum list too short and your null list too large.
2 Scum reads D1 is 2 more then i usally have

Well shit, then you're off to a hawt start! Nicely done superstar

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