The Syndicate

Big win Town! Nice end game.

GG Maf! Very well played. Thanks for the host!!

obscurity wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:11 pm I've been busy pray but I'll make sure to be on before day end to read Porscha's stuff and make a final decision

@falcon45ca can you answer the question I asked Porscha and Wilgy: what are you most proud of about your play this game and what is your biggest regret?

I'm not proud of anything I've done this game really....like, if I have to say something, it would be reading Jack's ISO & noting how it was too polite....but I GTH TR him anyway, so I biffed it in the end zone.

My biggest regret is just not being able to get me feet under me from the get go. I feel like I barely even understand where we're at right now or how we got here

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:10 am Porscha & Nook is my solve. Legacy it beeches, cuz I'm a fried green potato town.

Is this one of my finest games? Hell nah. But it is one of my town games, believe 'dat
it's fried green tomato................. really scum slipping on your fried green produce there, falcon

I

Am

Town.

Book it.

[VOTE: Nook] aubergineFor what it's worth, Porscha's tunnel on me feels like my tunnel on Neon in Champs...that is, done with the best of intentions despite being wrong.

Porscha & Nook is my solve. Legacy it beeches, cuz I'm a fried green potato town.

Is this one of my finest games? Hell nah. But it is one of my town games, believe 'dat

But I'm Town...if you feel you did a lot of work building a case against me, it was work only for Maf.

Who would be cleared after I'm gone? I am town, the game will continue. So who's clear town based off my flip?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:50 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:48 pm Yes we've established that I'm alive because I've been a loud voice defending mafia. Basically the 5th wolf. That's why I'm literally carrying out the strongest part of the will of all the recent dead people. Neon being mafia makes no sense here. Neon was Mac's strongest townread and no one dead wanted Neon to die. Pyxxy literally died going at Porscha why would you ignore that Wilgy?
This line of thinking completely ignores that Neon has been a loud voice against Wilgy...they parked and left the RD, why does Wilgy leave them alive?

Your whole premise here is negated by that fact
idk don't really like this from falcon irt wilgy here kinda feels like a weird defense of wilgy when oscar's post wasn't even directed at falcon

But surely it couldn't be an example of provocation & ideas of which I haven't had this game?

No, no...it couldn't be that.

Follow up more on Obs and I'm discussion, see what you find about how I read Wilgys slot

I find it strange that Porscha is not voting me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:42 pm Wilgy TRs me, his teammate, in his legacy reads? Really?
I thought wilgy was obviously in anti spew wowee
I mean, you're either Maf or just hoping the answer is the easiest one right?

And I guess his anti spew is to repeat his TR on my slot?

For a fella who doesn't want to talk to me about his SR on my slot, you do pick some interesting posts to chime in on
Yeah the ones I can be snarky to

Well, we all have our moments. I've been known to have several at the same time, if you can believe it

If I'm lynched this RD, the game will continue. Anybody who wants my flip should start looking at what their scum reads are beyond my slot

obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:37 pm finished Wilgy ISO

basically, Wilgy is soft pushing Falcon all game

then, does an ISO of falcon after Jack dies, switches, says Falcon looks spewed town, rides on this - also says porscha and anne look bad from jack spew

this is probably not a great look for Falcon, because a "powerwolfy" mindset which Wilgy did seem to have would point more towards Falcon being a wolf partner than Porscha.

NANOOK/Neon I'm still very set on being town.

i need to reread Porscha ISO and organize some of my questions/see if the stuff i was confbiasing from her is as bad as i originally thought

I will flip green.

What does your worldview look like then? Is it just Porscha, or what other possibilities do you realistically see?

Of the remaining players, the only ones that get next to zero mention or discussion from Sabi are Nook & Porscha.

I searched on mobile, so I'd like someone else to double check plz

obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:27 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:23 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:05 pm jack/wilgy definitely didn't distance much
We should also look at how Wilgy & Jack interacted with their other teammates
i mean there's only Sabi which is low on content/already analyzed

I just did a quick search, and it looked to me that Sabi never mentioned Wilgy or Jack, not even once. Their names pop up from quotes of other players.

Of the remaining players alive, how many were never once mentioned by Sabi?

obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:27 pm there's like, quite a few times wilgy votes someone else and mentions falc is also acceptable

I'm always acceptable. I am a known ML commodity

obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:05 pm jack/wilgy definitely didn't distance much

We should also look at how Wilgy & Jack interacted with their other teammates

We do need some.other voices in here, ir it'll just sound like an echo chamber

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:42 pm Wilgy TRs me, his teammate, in his legacy reads? Really?
I thought wilgy was obviously in anti spew wowee

I mean, you're either Maf or just hoping the answer is the easiest one right?

And I guess his anti spew is to repeat his TR on my slot?

For a fella who doesn't want to talk to me about his SR on my slot, you do pick some interesting posts to chime in on

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:42 pm Wilgy TRs me, his teammate, in his legacy reads? Really?
he also tr'd nook

"Wilgy SR's me, this teamamte, in his legacy reads? Really?"

see i can do it too
Yeah, he also softeded off you as well, when he was pushing Neon & Ruri, so no you can't do it
yeah wilgy also hard defended you all game with no second thought and I don't recall you ever questioning it, so no you can't do it either

When you are Maf, how do you go about distancing from your teammates? Do you usually TR them, SR them, or ignore them?

What does good partner distancing look like to you?

I am going to have a nap, for as the French say I am le' tired

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:42 pm Wilgy TRs me, his teammate, in his legacy reads? Really?
he also tr'd nook

"Wilgy SR's me, this teamamte, in his legacy reads? Really?"

see i can do it too

Yeah, he also softeded off you as well, when he was pushing Neon & Ruri, so no you can't do it

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:38 pm I'm sorry, but look at any wolf game of mine I've ever played, none of the plays this game point to scum falcon in any universe ever
alright so if i'm town and you're town then who am I supposed to believe isn't? neon? that she hard bussed both sabi and wilgy to be spewed town? I just have a harder time seeing that world but I'll try not to confbias myself too hard onto you for now falcon

Why is Nook town? Why are you only considering Neon?

It's insane that there's such a seemingly high bar for my town game re: infinite ideas and provocation, yet such dunce plays as Maf are totally normal for me

Wilgy TRs me, his teammate, in his legacy reads? Really?

I'm sorry, but look at any wolf game of mine I've ever played, none of the plays this game point to scum falcon in any universe ever

With Wilgy being a wagon for several RDs, is it optimal Wolf strategy to have both Wolves on the CW?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:35 pm idk who was actually on my wagon at eod I wasn't even logged in when I read the eod I had missed I just saw I ended with 3 votes

Wilgy, Nook & I

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:59 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: ruri] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
Falc, what's in your head re Neon vs me?
1 of you 2 is Maf

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:42 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
AND YET??
Oh don't act like my votes don't change.

And if 1 of the 2 is Maf, well then there's still another Maf out there
yeah ruri or wilgy are maf

*votes porscha umprompted*

"oh dont act like my votes don't change"

>ends up voting me by eod instead of wilgy

My POE was very clearly defined, and frankly I'm pretty sure I was voting Maf at EOD

Nvm, I misread your post. Disregard

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:14 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:50 pm like town falcon has infinitely more thoughts and provocation even when slanking. the falcon we have been seeing is hardly flying
This is such a weird take
it literally isn't and you know that. lol
No, it's a lazy & soft read on my slot, that's trying to use my slank D2 as a springboard read on my entire game play.

How have I not had provocations? Give me some examples plz
you've been slanking like all game not just day 2 imo. this is a meta read and unless I go find games to compare them to I'm not gonna quote post all of your one-two liners where you ask half ass questions or say "hmmm" on repeat

You literally just told Obs I've been townier than you the last few RDs, so this is demonstrably false

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:24 pm Falcon has spent 7 days voting town lol

That should lock me as Town, Maf falcon is not afraid to bus, he does it a lot

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:14 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:50 pm like town falcon has infinitely more thoughts and provocation even when slanking. the falcon we have been seeing is hardly flying
This is such a weird take
it literally isn't and you know that. lol

No, it's a lazy & soft read on my slot, that's trying to use my slank D2 as a springboard read on my entire game play.

How have I not had provocations? Give me some examples plz

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:50 pm like town falcon has infinitely more thoughts and provocation even when slanking. the falcon we have been seeing is hardly flying

This is such a weird take

Why is Nook town?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:26 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:25 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:14 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:54 pm When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think.
like there is no way we are w/w when wilgy was hard trying to get me flipped over him yesterday
to me it felt like he wasn't really trying to get you flipped until i sort of forced him into it..

i mean every time he pushed on you he ended up backing off

i may need to reread some of the interactions but "witty theater" still registers.
yesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
Well, he had little choice, wouldn't you say? He made lots of soft sus on other slots as well, including Ruri & Neon
okay, sure, oscar thinks he forced wilgy into trying to flip me, and you think wilgy had no choice but to try and flip me. do either or both of these point to me being his wolf partner today?

In and of themselves, no, but that's not the primary reason for sus on your slot.

Let's say you are town, talk to me about your current TRs & SRs plz

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:14 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:54 pm When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think.
like there is no way we are w/w when wilgy was hard trying to get me flipped over him yesterday
to me it felt like he wasn't really trying to get you flipped until i sort of forced him into it..

i mean every time he pushed on you he ended up backing off

i may need to reread some of the interactions but "witty theater" still registers.
yesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?

Well, he had little choice, wouldn't you say? He made lots of soft sus on other slots as well, including Ruri & Neon

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:20 pm "Who do you think the easy answer is" is just a silly question while my vote is on you lol, the answer is obvious

Are ya putting any actual thought into that read? Cuz' it's like pulling teeth here to get ya to talk about it.

Imagine I am town. Who else do you have as a scum suspect?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:16 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:50 am Hoping it's the easy answer
What's the easy answer in your mind?
You, obviously lol

I don't see how that's obvious in the least bit.

Why am I scum?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:22 pm Also food for thought.

If it is Porscha, Neon isn't a wolf I think.

Porscha's defense of Neon is either from Porscha being wrong or Porscha having TMI on the slot.

However if Porscha does have TMI on the slot and argued that Neon/Sabi was absolutely not a thing, idk why Neon is still alive outside of 'I like Neon pushing Wilgy'.

Hmmmmm

Wilgy was clearly in anti-spew mode for much of last RD. Anyone care to take a gander, and see what they think?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:50 am Hoping it's the easy answer

What's the easy answer in your mind?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:50 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:43 pm I believe I can only post once more. I intent to stick with my vote for many reasons but have no qualms with flipping Porscha either.

Appreciate the work you're doing regardless, Wilgy. I think the biggest thing that would confuse me if you're town is why Wilgy died with a 0/3. Like that's partially why I kind of would expect v!you to push at me a bit.

The only scenario I have to explain that is exactly Porscha wolf since she also focused on Porscha POE a fair bit as did Pyxxy.
But I just don't see you as W

Like the chance of W Obs is FAR less likely than I think than W Porscha/Ruri/Neon even Falc at this point.

Again, I do think Lucy and Pyxxy kills served a double purpose of sussing me while outing Porscha opposition. Porscha's immediate going in on me and then reactionary dropping off on me reflects this as well.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:54 pm When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:55 pm I think my legacy should hold good assessment.

TR Nook, no takesy backsey.

Hmmmmmm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:41 am I don't disagree clearly just want to see where your head is at.

What's your scum read on me?

Well, we should have some discussion, no?

obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:06 pm Wilgs did really well. You can't imagine my relief last night my mom literally had to ask me if I was okay irl I couldn't stop smiling just happy I put my ego aside.

This is the cutest thing I've read all week

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:04 pm In a world where me and Wilgz are TvT

What is the likelihood of something stupid like Porscha/Falc?

Tin foil time.

Porscha is POE.

Something stupid tinfoil-y would be like, Obs & Ruri

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: ruri] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
Falc, what's in your head re Neon vs me?
1 of you 2 is Maf

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:42 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
AND YET??

Oh don't act like my votes don't change.

And if 1 of the 2 is Maf, well then there's still another Maf out there

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: ruri] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
Falc, what's in your head re Neon vs me?

1 of you 2 is Maf

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