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- Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:37 am
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Thanks for the host @JaggedJimmyJay , thanks @Seanzie, always a pleasure to scum with you.
- Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:00 am
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- Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:58 pm
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[VOTE:
mr] aubergine
- Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:43 pm
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This does not look like you feel MR's push is insincere, in fact it reads the opposite
- Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:40 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 3]
[VOTE:
svs] aubergine
- Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:39 pm
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S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:13 am100% self defense. I got so derailed by day one, by taking so much suspish over something so silly, that it OMGUSed me up. I think I'm a fairly polarized player, my bad game is so much more controlled, that it can be hard for me to see pushes for saying something that was kind of a thoughtless throwaway remark, which I almost never make when bad. So now I am fairly blinded by defensiveness towards those that suspected me for something so trivial.
This is my failing, no one elses. I apologize to the host and to the other players for being so absent. I've become so blinded by my own defensiveness that I'm useless to town.
Gonna stick with my gut re Radishes, they kept up with the "Hrm, what about SVS" pretty much the whole game. Of all the suspish I took, that felt the most insincere to me.
[VOTE: Radishes] aubergine
It feels like you've stopped hunting. Do you have something more specific beyond gut feels on MR?
Imma check your ISO
- Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:37 am
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 3]
@Epignosis What's your read on MR right now?
- Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:31 am
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Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 9:10 pm Master Radishes hasn't voted (and I believe said that wouldn't happen).
That was the underwhelming Day 1 vote.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:15 pm [VOTE: SVS] aubergine
This is fine I guess. I have no strong opinion but others seem to.
Hmmmm...underwhelming as in the reason MR stated, or the wagon itself?
- Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:18 am
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 3]
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:52 am@falcon45ca did you look at this yet?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:57 amMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:53 amEpi went after SVS pretty hard in D1. It felt unpaired to me.
Your point on his choice of target is a good one. Maybe I'll look again at how his suss on her developed.
I've not independently iso'd SVS yet (I'm wasting time from life admin stuff right now) so will get back to you on her.
I'll take a look as well...perhaps I'm misremembering, but I feel Epi somewhat piggybacked off others sus of SVS slot.
That's partner distancing 101 IMO. Imma take a look
You're partially right in the sense that Epi was 3rd onto SVS (you first, then Linear). If I'm uncharitable, his case was nitpicky, though I guess D1 cases often are.
But also he rode his sus on SVS for the rest of D1 and into D2. There were available exits (Guillo, cat) and Epi is certainly not afraid to create his own new case himself.
And most of all, with just 6 minutes left in D1 he re-voted SVS, putting her at 4 votes and therefore making SVS set to be eliminated. Linear's mech meant that Cat was elimmed instead, as we now know, but Epi basically doomed SVS with that last minute vote. I guess you could argue Epi somehow saw Linear's hint and understood it, or that he and SVS agreed he'd bus her out and ride the cred to the end, or something. But the simple answer is that Epi was responsible for SVS near-elimination in D1, and that just feels very unlikely to be partnered.
If Epi is scum, it's not with SVS, imo.
I have not, but I have time this morning.
Tho Epi switching to SVS in the dying minutes of D1 doesnt look partnered, cuz I looked at LPs hint and I find it hard to believe anybody would take that to mean they controlled the lynch.
With other viable wagons, I don't see Maf Epi bussing his partner.
- Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:57 am
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Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:53 amEpi went after SVS pretty hard in D1. It felt unpaired to me.
Your point on his choice of target is a good one. Maybe I'll look again at how his suss on her developed.
I've not independently iso'd SVS yet (I'm wasting time from life admin stuff right now) so will get back to you on her.
I'll take a look as well...perhaps I'm misremembering, but I feel Epi somewhat piggybacked off others sus of SVS slot.
That's partner distancing 101 IMO. Imma take a look
- Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:50 am
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 3]
Level 1 reads say it's either MR/Sean, or SVS/Epi teams
- Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:49 am
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Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:40 amYou fit with everyone as a partner. Then I read your iso and didn't find the obvious scum agenda and now I don't know what to think.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:36 am Wait, yer voting me?
MR says he & I are designated game-losing lylo chop...after he's received a vote, then he votes for me w/o having expressed any SR that I've seen...hmmmmmm
I want to vote SVS more right now, but haven't done my homework on her yet.
Talk to me about SVS & Epi.
I'm not sure what to make of Epi's choice, and frankly on the surface it appears a blatant attempt to remove 2 players from lynch contention this RD
- Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:47 am
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Why SVS?
Given LPs vote ability, there was a very good chance they'd take the NK, why wouldn't you hoosegrow them over SVS?
- Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:36 am
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Wait, yer voting me?
MR says he & I are designated game-losing lylo chop...after he's received a vote, then he votes for me w/o having expressed any SR that I've seen...hmmmmmm
MR says he & I are designated game-losing lylo chop...after he's received a vote, then he votes for me w/o having expressed any SR that I've seen...hmmmmmm
- Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:31 am
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 3]
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:36 am @falcon45ca If you're town, you and I are the designated game-losing lylo chop options. Come do towny things!
Alright then.
I'm used to being mislynch bait, so this is familiar territory
- Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:41 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
- Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:15 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
I'm back in the land of wifi, what I miss?
- Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:19 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
Prolly Maf, def not towny
- Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:18 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
I'm at the lake, so limited data service
[VOTE: guillo] aubergine
[VOTE: guillo] aubergine
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:14 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:48 pmI no longer scum read them and also Im not interested in wasting my time pursuing a lynch that one player will overrule with their ability yet again. If you want them out, then this time you will havebto lynch them, you are getting zero support on that slot today.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:10 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:03 pmI will not let you get away with playing the i dint know card. I specifically said yesterday that i wanted SvS dead first because if he was scum then it'd mean that cat probably was trying to dave SVS, that is the reason i wanted SvS lynched over cat.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:51 pmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:48 pmI disagree, I'm pretty sure it was my call.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:24 pmBecause it is not your call to decide the lynch for us.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:58 pm
Question. Why not use your Cop check on me then and out SVS? You were already putting SVS at the top of your wolf reads end of yesterday. I killed another one of your wolf reads.
My alignment is not really contingent on SVS's alignment. If they are a wolf then I could easily be a mislead Town or their Mafia partner
I do not agree that if i were a Mafia Doublevoter I would out today or even entertain the idea I could be one. I would just have staid silent and made it seem like SVS was a Doublevoter.
I think that, from the perspective of a Parity Cop, going for me over SVS does not make a whole lot of sense. Why go after the Power Role claim? When Power Roles are great people to check as a Cop of any kind and I don't see how you refuse to entertain the idea I could be Town who accidentally saved a wolf.
It was obvious there were double voting shenanigans and maybe you thought that playing along makes you look goid because scum wouldnt do that, that is why you'd perceive it'd work.
I believe that if yoy are a wolf, you saved SvS to associate him with you. So no, if you are scum SvS is actually town.
Jokes aside, I understand your frustration of not having your vote preference go through, but at the end of the day somebody was executed and I was quite clear I did not agree with the "consensus". It was only a very slim majority of 1 vote anyways, so it's really not like I was going completely rogue and trying to execute someone that nobody was wolf reading.
I personally treat the ability as if I dayvigged Cat and there was a forced no execution because of it. We still have the votes of yesterday and I think that's more than enough to draw conclusions from.
Guillo had Cat as a SR, there's no reason for T Guillo to care about their flip.
It reads like manufactured outrage
You dont ride a horse without the saddle.
Why aren't you voting SVS?
How did that read develop?
If you really feel this way, why are you even bothering to vote?
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:10 pm
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:03 pmI will not let you get away with playing the i dint know card. I specifically said yesterday that i wanted SvS dead first because if he was scum then it'd mean that cat probably was trying to dave SVS, that is the reason i wanted SvS lynched over cat.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:51 pmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:48 pmI disagree, I'm pretty sure it was my call.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:24 pmBecause it is not your call to decide the lynch for us.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:58 pmQuestion. Why not use your Cop check on me then and out SVS? You were already putting SVS at the top of your wolf reads end of yesterday. I killed another one of your wolf reads.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:51 pm I was not questioning cat getting yeeted organically but if you had something to do with it through mechanics, you must get killed even though cat was in my poe.
My alignment is not really contingent on SVS's alignment. If they are a wolf then I could easily be a mislead Town or their Mafia partner
I do not agree that if i were a Mafia Doublevoter I would out today or even entertain the idea I could be one. I would just have staid silent and made it seem like SVS was a Doublevoter.
I think that, from the perspective of a Parity Cop, going for me over SVS does not make a whole lot of sense. Why go after the Power Role claim? When Power Roles are great people to check as a Cop of any kind and I don't see how you refuse to entertain the idea I could be Town who accidentally saved a wolf.
It was obvious there were double voting shenanigans and maybe you thought that playing along makes you look goid because scum wouldnt do that, that is why you'd perceive it'd work.
I believe that if yoy are a wolf, you saved SvS to associate him with you. So no, if you are scum SvS is actually town.
Jokes aside, I understand your frustration of not having your vote preference go through, but at the end of the day somebody was executed and I was quite clear I did not agree with the "consensus". It was only a very slim majority of 1 vote anyways, so it's really not like I was going completely rogue and trying to execute someone that nobody was wolf reading.
I personally treat the ability as if I dayvigged Cat and there was a forced no execution because of it. We still have the votes of yesterday and I think that's more than enough to draw conclusions from.
Guillo had Cat as a SR, there's no reason for T Guillo to care about their flip.
It reads like manufactured outrage
You dont ride a horse without the saddle.
Why aren't you voting SVS?
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:51 pm
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LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:48 pmI disagree, I'm pretty sure it was my call.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:24 pmBecause it is not your call to decide the lynch for us.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:58 pmQuestion. Why not use your Cop check on me then and out SVS? You were already putting SVS at the top of your wolf reads end of yesterday. I killed another one of your wolf reads.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:51 pm I was not questioning cat getting yeeted organically but if you had something to do with it through mechanics, you must get killed even though cat was in my poe.
My alignment is not really contingent on SVS's alignment. If they are a wolf then I could easily be a mislead Town or their Mafia partner
I do not agree that if i were a Mafia Doublevoter I would out today or even entertain the idea I could be one. I would just have staid silent and made it seem like SVS was a Doublevoter.
I think that, from the perspective of a Parity Cop, going for me over SVS does not make a whole lot of sense. Why go after the Power Role claim? When Power Roles are great people to check as a Cop of any kind and I don't see how you refuse to entertain the idea I could be Town who accidentally saved a wolf.
It was obvious there were double voting shenanigans and maybe you thought that playing along makes you look goid because scum wouldnt do that, that is why you'd perceive it'd work.
I believe that if yoy are a wolf, you saved SvS to associate him with you. So no, if you are scum SvS is actually town.
Jokes aside, I understand your frustration of not having your vote preference go through, but at the end of the day somebody was executed and I was quite clear I did not agree with the "consensus". It was only a very slim majority of 1 vote anyways, so it's really not like I was going completely rogue and trying to execute someone that nobody was wolf reading.
I personally treat the ability as if I dayvigged Cat and there was a forced no execution because of it. We still have the votes of yesterday and I think that's more than enough to draw conclusions from.
Guillo had Cat as a SR, there's no reason for T Guillo to care about their flip.
It reads like manufactured outrage
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:36 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:24 pmNo, this is mafia and you have been in larger gamesfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:22 pmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:45 pmJust because I said I agree the two roles are mechanically indistinguishable doesn't mean I'm claiming it. I mean if we really are being pedantic SVS could have been a role that redirects the execute away from them.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:32 pm@Master Radishes tjey didnt bother to contest itLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:32 amThat's a fair take. I'm fine if people want to put me down as a Doublevoter instead. It's pretty much mechanically speaking not different given I decided not to go with a vanity wagon.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:11 am I have a bit of tinfoil that LP is something like a double-voter rather than just controlling the elim, but the way they were telegraphing at EoD yesterday doesn't fit super well with that. In a mafia!LP world though, the fact that they went for Cat strongly suggests one of SVS or Guillo would be their partner, and looking at their ISO, they took both SVS and Guillo off the table, so meh, I guess that makes sense.
But honestly I wanted my top suspicion dead and I would rather be conflated with a Doblevoter than have voted on something like SVS or Guillotine and just be assumed to have been a Vanilla by burying my ability to make it impossible to tell something was up. Especially since, if it's not obvious, my ability goes away after day 1 and I'd have no way to even attempt to try and prove I was at any point a Power Role (baring Town Role Cop which is almost never actually added to games).
JJJ did not state any reason why Cat was executed other than they just were.
I think there is enough evidence that I'm not a Doublevoter with the game flavor being based on civilization, a king-like role makes sense and I thought was thematically quite funny. Also the fact I was very much saying that I had full faith Cat was going to be executed day 1. But I really do not think it is important to debate or speculate over what exactly I did day 1, so that's why I'm fine being called a Doublevoter. Regardless I have only a single vote today so it quite literally makes no difference in my eyes.
I would rather you attempt to push me out of a genuine scum read though and not just because I "went against the majority" when my ability quite literally tells me to go against the will of the majority to maximize it's value. As I said I think my decision was a good one, you even agreed at the end of day 1 that Cat was in PoE. I do not think you are in a position to criticize me for killing Cat because as far as I am aware I more or less had permission since Wilgy was the only one I saw speaking out against the possibility of Cat being evil.
Stop using so many words, I need it condensed or my brain melty
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:25 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 1]
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:20 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:15 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:51 pm I was not questioning cat getting yeeted organically but if you had something to do with it through mechanics, you must get killed even though cat was in my poe.
wha?What dont you understand? It is in Englishfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:16 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:49 pmMy scum read on you is genuine, i voiced it yesterday. I still dont trust you, my gut sensirs say you are evil so im gonna get you killed or be killed, it is as simple as that so i guess if you want to survive you are also goona have to vote me out.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:45 pmJust because I said I agree the two roles are mechanically indistinguishable doesn't mean I'm claiming it. I mean if we really are being pedantic SVS could have been a role that redirects the execute away from them.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:32 pm@Master Radishes tjey didnt bother to contest itLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:32 amThat's a fair take. I'm fine if people want to put me down as a Doublevoter instead. It's pretty much mechanically speaking not different given I decided not to go with a vanity wagon.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:11 am I have a bit of tinfoil that LP is something like a double-voter rather than just controlling the elim, but the way they were telegraphing at EoD yesterday doesn't fit super well with that. In a mafia!LP world though, the fact that they went for Cat strongly suggests one of SVS or Guillo would be their partner, and looking at their ISO, they took both SVS and Guillo off the table, so meh, I guess that makes sense.
But honestly I wanted my top suspicion dead and I would rather be conflated with a Doblevoter than have voted on something like SVS or Guillotine and just be assumed to have been a Vanilla by burying my ability to make it impossible to tell something was up. Especially since, if it's not obvious, my ability goes away after day 1 and I'd have no way to even attempt to try and prove I was at any point a Power Role (baring Town Role Cop which is almost never actually added to games).
JJJ did not state any reason why Cat was executed other than they just were.
I think there is enough evidence that I'm not a Doublevoter with the game flavor being based on civilization, a king-like role makes sense and I thought was thematically quite funny. Also the fact I was very much saying that I had full faith Cat was going to be executed day 1. But I really do not think it is important to debate or speculate over what exactly I did day 1, so that's why I'm fine being called a Doublevoter. Regardless I have only a single vote today so it quite literally makes no difference in my eyes.
I would rather you attempt to push me out of a genuine scum read though and not just because I "went against the majority" when my ability quite literally tells me to go against the will of the majority to maximize it's value. As I said I think my decision was a good one, you even agreed at the end of day 1 that Cat was in PoE. I do not think you are in a position to criticize me for killing Cat because as far as I am aware I more or less had permission since Wilgy was the only one I saw speaking out against the possibility of Cat being evil.
I said yesterday thatnif was not kill i would do an 180 on my reads, i lied.
Im making no 180s until one of you flips scum.
huh?
I understand the words individually, but when I put them together I can't decide if you're obscenely Maf or absurdly Town
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:22 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:45 pmJust because I said I agree the two roles are mechanically indistinguishable doesn't mean I'm claiming it. I mean if we really are being pedantic SVS could have been a role that redirects the execute away from them.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:32 pm@Master Radishes tjey didnt bother to contest itLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:32 amThat's a fair take. I'm fine if people want to put me down as a Doublevoter instead. It's pretty much mechanically speaking not different given I decided not to go with a vanity wagon.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:11 am I have a bit of tinfoil that LP is something like a double-voter rather than just controlling the elim, but the way they were telegraphing at EoD yesterday doesn't fit super well with that. In a mafia!LP world though, the fact that they went for Cat strongly suggests one of SVS or Guillo would be their partner, and looking at their ISO, they took both SVS and Guillo off the table, so meh, I guess that makes sense.
But honestly I wanted my top suspicion dead and I would rather be conflated with a Doblevoter than have voted on something like SVS or Guillotine and just be assumed to have been a Vanilla by burying my ability to make it impossible to tell something was up. Especially since, if it's not obvious, my ability goes away after day 1 and I'd have no way to even attempt to try and prove I was at any point a Power Role (baring Town Role Cop which is almost never actually added to games).
JJJ did not state any reason why Cat was executed other than they just were.
I think there is enough evidence that I'm not a Doublevoter with the game flavor being based on civilization, a king-like role makes sense and I thought was thematically quite funny. Also the fact I was very much saying that I had full faith Cat was going to be executed day 1. But I really do not think it is important to debate or speculate over what exactly I did day 1, so that's why I'm fine being called a Doublevoter. Regardless I have only a single vote today so it quite literally makes no difference in my eyes.
I would rather you attempt to push me out of a genuine scum read though and not just because I "went against the majority" when my ability quite literally tells me to go against the will of the majority to maximize it's value. As I said I think my decision was a good one, you even agreed at the end of day 1 that Cat was in PoE. I do not think you are in a position to criticize me for killing Cat because as far as I am aware I more or less had permission since Wilgy was the only one I saw speaking out against the possibility of Cat being evil.
Stop using so many words, I need it condensed or my brain melty
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:19 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:52 am The book I've been reading lately suggested that Minoan women may have ruled their society. Early (male) archaeologists dismissed the idea despite there being some evidence that the assembly spaces uncovered had associations with goddesses and a ceremony about menstruation. (I may be misrepresenting this, as I'm not double checking my book, only going off memory of what it said when I read this section a few days ago.)
What the fuck book club have you joined?
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:18 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:31 amYour intro to today looks very staged frankly.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:34 am Those two kills point at me as having motivation to kill them as they both pushed me together.
Which means scum went for WIFOM route.
This is gonna be my assumption if the vig shot is not claimed.
In my opinion Linear is scum with TMI and I don't think Linear comes here saying all wagons are were town in an organic way but it spews SVS town.
So the remaining scum is out my PoE from yesterday.
1) It's painfully obvious how Cat died.
2) The kills don't point to you at all, if anything they point to MR.
3) WIFOM makes no sense. There was 2 outed Town Power Roles, I don't see why Mafia would WIFOM in that situation. They only WIFOM in the world where you are Mafia, know that the other Power Role was legit and were worried they'd be protected by a Doctor over you.
4) I don't think you know what TMI means. I'm actually not confident you know what WIFOM means either given the context you just used it in frankly.
It's quite hard to imagine a world where you aren't just Mafia who failed to notice the reason for Cat's death and made a poor night kill choice because of it. And now just trying to argue it was WIFOM because you want to save some face.
How did Cat die?
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:16 pm
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Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:49 pmMy scum read on you is genuine, i voiced it yesterday. I still dont trust you, my gut sensirs say you are evil so im gonna get you killed or be killed, it is as simple as that so i guess if you want to survive you are also goona have to vote me out.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:45 pmJust because I said I agree the two roles are mechanically indistinguishable doesn't mean I'm claiming it. I mean if we really are being pedantic SVS could have been a role that redirects the execute away from them.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:32 pm@Master Radishes tjey didnt bother to contest itLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:32 amThat's a fair take. I'm fine if people want to put me down as a Doublevoter instead. It's pretty much mechanically speaking not different given I decided not to go with a vanity wagon.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:11 am I have a bit of tinfoil that LP is something like a double-voter rather than just controlling the elim, but the way they were telegraphing at EoD yesterday doesn't fit super well with that. In a mafia!LP world though, the fact that they went for Cat strongly suggests one of SVS or Guillo would be their partner, and looking at their ISO, they took both SVS and Guillo off the table, so meh, I guess that makes sense.
But honestly I wanted my top suspicion dead and I would rather be conflated with a Doblevoter than have voted on something like SVS or Guillotine and just be assumed to have been a Vanilla by burying my ability to make it impossible to tell something was up. Especially since, if it's not obvious, my ability goes away after day 1 and I'd have no way to even attempt to try and prove I was at any point a Power Role (baring Town Role Cop which is almost never actually added to games).
JJJ did not state any reason why Cat was executed other than they just were.
I think there is enough evidence that I'm not a Doublevoter with the game flavor being based on civilization, a king-like role makes sense and I thought was thematically quite funny. Also the fact I was very much saying that I had full faith Cat was going to be executed day 1. But I really do not think it is important to debate or speculate over what exactly I did day 1, so that's why I'm fine being called a Doublevoter. Regardless I have only a single vote today so it quite literally makes no difference in my eyes.
I would rather you attempt to push me out of a genuine scum read though and not just because I "went against the majority" when my ability quite literally tells me to go against the will of the majority to maximize it's value. As I said I think my decision was a good one, you even agreed at the end of day 1 that Cat was in PoE. I do not think you are in a position to criticize me for killing Cat because as far as I am aware I more or less had permission since Wilgy was the only one I saw speaking out against the possibility of Cat being evil.
I said yesterday thatnif was not kill i would do an 180 on my reads, i lied.
Im making no 180s until one of you flips scum.
huh?
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:15 pm
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:51 pm I was not questioning cat getting yeeted organically but if you had something to do with it through mechanics, you must get killed even though cat was in my poe.
wha?
- Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:15 pm
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I am hungover & have stuff & things this weekend
Time for maximum effort
Time for maximum effort
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:20 pm
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- Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:03 pm
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Why not self pres on Cat? You said you're being tunneled by them, why SVS over Cat?
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:56 pm
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LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:53 pm I feel a lot older after this past hour. Which is weird because the votes have not changed at all somehow.
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:52 pmThatbis precisely why you have to pick on things and adk questions! Lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:50 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:48 pmExactly. But i told you that keep voting me is throwing, implying i believe you are town, why didnt you questioned me on that?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:46 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:44 pm @falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?
I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.
The same reason I didn't ask about the color chicken. I have no idea what's going on inside your brain.
Ya, but I can't ask questions that don't occur to me. Maybe falcon2.0, but this version doesn't have the technology
I just asked you for TRs and SRs, and you directed me to read your ISO. Why not engage me now, and answer in real time?
Talk to me about Cat & LP plz
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:50 pm
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:48 pmExactly. But i told you that keep voting me is throwing, implying i believe you are town, why didnt you questioned me on that?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:46 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:44 pm @falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?
I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.
The same reason I didn't ask about the color chicken. I have no idea what's going on inside your brain.
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:46 pm
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:44 pm @falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?
I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:45 pm
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:42 pmAnd im the only one “kicking and screaming”.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:38 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:29 pm 30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.
They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m
You are kicking and screaming, this is the opposite of dead air dead villager.
If you're actually town, why would you reveal your role, and then go into some detail on how it works?
If you don't get lynched, you quite likely will be NKd
What's your actual legacy? TR & SRs plz
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:42 pm
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[VOTE:
cat] aubergine
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:38 pm
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:29 pm 30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.
They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m
You are kicking and screaming, this is the opposite of dead air dead villager.
If you're actually town, why would you reveal your role, and then go into some detail on how it works?
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:17 pm
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:15 pmPlease compromise on one of the leading wagons except mine of course.
The vanity wagon does not contribute to anything and could lead to my elimination
I don't think you're a PR, I think you are Maf.
I do not see any reason whatsoever to out the way you did, nor reveal anything about your role
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:14 pm
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Actually, fuck that
[VOTE: guillo] aubergine
I don't see an actual PR dropping that info
[VOTE: guillo] aubergine
I don't see an actual PR dropping that info
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:12 pm
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[VOTE:
epi] aubergine
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:12 pm
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Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:54 pmIs the description in the link below an accurate description of your role?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/da ... rity%20Cop
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S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:51 pmThat one post, where she was like, "Gee I wonder why people are voting for SVS" that sounded a bit TMI to me, yeah, like she knew I would flip town. So I could see this vote, although the rest of her posts seem fairly nuanced to me. (Do you know how hard it is for me when quoting you to NOT delete some of those spaces in your post lol).
@LinearPoint lol, I asked you who you'd suspect when I specifically flip wolf. You listed me in your list, so maybe I wasn't clear about that. What do you think town would learn from my very vanilla death? Who looks bad from me flipping town?
I went back to my first game, The Simpsons, and as it turns out...
I've been doing it since the beginning
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:32 pm
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Ya know what?
[VOTE: cat] aubergine
[VOTE: cat] aubergine
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:54 pm
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[VOTE:
svs] aubergine
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:24 am
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cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:54 am I don't see what people see about SVS so i will stay off.
To me reading Michelle posts actually seems more like baiting discussion than actually slipping something, she came back from work, started talking to people and trying to rile them up, unlike Guillotina who did nothing to start and start flailing when they get called out... I don't know the attentiveness of th people here but i'm pretty sure directly talking to people is more likely to create actual discussion then ignoring them. I won't give pointers since im a reactionary player myself but if you want to get people to talk about you it's much better to do something else than make the entire thread suspect you by saying something bland or generic
Why does it feel like you're content sitting on the sidelines, w/ commentary, but no real reads that I can see?
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:21 am
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[VOTE:
Guillo] aubergine
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:20 am
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:54 amAre we playing different games? Guillo's openly advised they are tunneling and they've been hyper fixated upon me/michelle while at the same time svs is scum but didn't say anything about that one?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:40 pm Guillo's prolly town, he's swinging at anything he finds sus
Some of this just aligns w/ how I've come to expect T Guillo to play, he tunnels all the time, but his soft claim is sus AF IMO
What's your take on his claim?
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:17 am
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:39 am Game ends in 14 hours, if in 4 hours momentum has not changed, i will have no choice but to claim.
Dude, you just did.
I don't understand this at all if you're town, what's the point?