The Syndicate

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:34 pm look upon my work, ye mighty, and despair

Simpson's game banners?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:28 am Scum https://discord.gg/fs9M43cV

Mason https://discord.gg/aFFdqfaN

The number of jokes made in scum chat about modkilling, and that's how the game was won. Priceless

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:08 pm @falcon45ca I was most worried about you this game. Pretty sure I even said so in the scum chat. I knew I wouldn’t fool you

One day we'll rand Maf together & turn the Town into a mere shanty

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:01 pm I was gonna kill gman and hope for the best

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:02 pm And while it was an unfortunate ending, there was lots of good plays on both sides to be proud of

GG, y'all played well.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:54 pm That sucks.

Maybe we get there on Nook, and maybe we don't, but that's a shitty way to lose a game

you played great. were you and ddl on the same page?

I'll invite you to the discord!

That sucks.

Maybe we get there on Nook, and maybe we don't, but that's a shitty way to lose a game

GG Maf, thanks for the host Urist

Brutal

Whole lotta AtE coming from you LC.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:51 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:44 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:39 pm Ok so you may pick one of me or falcon tonight.

Now nook is restricted according to himself, so he has to pick falcon. So if falcon dies tonight thats's a sign nook is lying.

Meanwhile you can protect me again. So if I die tonight, it means you are lying.

And if nobody or someone from the poe dies tonight, well, good for us!

What do y'all think of this plan?

Only fails if mafia has a strongman, I suppose. Or a roleblocker, though we killed that one so it's unlikely they have two.
Oh.... holy shit that's an amazing idea.

I jail keep you.

Nanook jail keeps Falcon.

Whoever dies with that person protecting them is outing the fake.

Fucking Jailkeep testing!
@falcon45ca

You look at this too. Get on board with this please.

I'm down

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:04 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:56 pm Also, LC you have TSP/Nook as teammates, so yeah Nook's already been bussing TSP and vic versa. Why are you voting beside your scum read?
I literally just explained this. They're going to bus each other to try to avoid being teamed together by voting the unclear villager and losing if one of them is yeeted.

I'm literally going more by preference.

I'd rather kill Nanook because he's going to be a bigger pain in the ass to get yeeted than TSP.

I mean, you have 2 cleared town voting for one of your scum reads.

I'd think you'd be more open to working with town, rather than working with someone you think is scum

We need @G-Man to weigh in

If LC & TSP are Maf, then their gambit is they only need to convince 1 town to vote w/ them.

Also, LC you have TSP/Nook as teammates, so yeah Nook's already been bussing TSP and vic versa. Why are you voting beside your scum read?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:41 pm LC is now voting w/ TSP, whom he just said was Nook's wolf partner. Odd
There's 3 unclears right now since we're considering G-Man to be IC'd due to fake cop's mech. 1 partner is going to bus the other more than likely.

They could gang up on the final town but that just outs them if one of them gets yeeted.

It's LYLO, so I wouldn't be surprised if Maf throws it all on one shot, and you're the CC to Nook's JK claim.

You three make quite the little triangle right now.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:40 pm He is getting CCed by two different people
Who's the 2nd person?
I claimed a role cop on him as not his role which is basically a CC

Who else have you role copped? Have you bread crumbed anything?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:40 pm He is getting CCed by two different people

Who's the 2nd person?

LC is now voting w/ TSP, whom he just said was Nook's wolf partner. Odd

I don't see why Town LC gets this upset

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:21 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:09 pm Nanook not even trying in this and is going to let the masons fuck this one up.
This just tmis me town lmao

Agreed

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:12 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:51 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:12 am Oh my God, so town, how does he do it?:
Lime Coke

Townread:
Falcon - Despite how I felt about him in the early going, I think him widely suspecting and asking questions towards everyone in the game is probably town indicative of Falcon. Even if it's questioning EVERYTHING and at points is pingy as hell, that's just how he is as town.

NotAnAxehole - More of a vibe read but probably in townrange.
Spoiler: show
Granted I don't know what his scumrange is, still decently confident he's town
.

Townlean:
Dragon - I think his assessments are fine? Can see him misreading Falcon if both are town because of playstyle, and as I've said Falcon can just naturally come off as scummy when he's town with his scumhunting style. His read on me looked fine. Decent look so far.
Spoiler: show
Still, fuck them dragons.

Scumleaning:
Gavial - His 2 "catch-up" posts remind me of Baby Mafia where he was mafia, and it was mostly just responding to fluff to have a convo about something and just pinging people for pictures.

DrWilgy - When he was scum during Coffia he was way more aggressive than when I've seen him as town. This game feels relatively the same in terms of just him hard scumreading two players instantly, one of them being me for an intro post that means jackshit.

The rest would be...

Nanook
Sprityo
Dolby
TSP
Sig

These all have content that I can't garner anything on in terms of a read. However if I'm correct on my 2 scumleans it might not be as much of an issue? Would be a nice change for once.

And then FingerSplints and G-Man both have only posted 1 time.
Interesting. He's 100% right on his TR's, and 100% wrong on his scum reads.

All of his nulls are either Town, or current POE
That's called "Having good reads" it wasn't that hard to towncore those people.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:57 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:42 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:21 pm Tsp is always wolfy to me
TSP probably spewed town.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:26 pm For the record I hate these kind of comments regarding “who is online”

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:30 am It’s 6:30 am and fingersplints is online browsing the thread, will you be finally making an appearance fingersplints?
That with subsequent vote on me don’t really sit great with me right now, but not sure if it’s enough to warrant a vote yet.
No idea what to think of this one tbh. Anyone have an idea?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:44 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:10 pm Okay so

BradLand
Wilgy
Sig
Dragon
Falcon
G-Man

That's six town right there.
So with Sig dead-

BradLand
Wilgy
Dragon
Falcon
G-Man
TSP

Still 6 person town core.
If TSP is a wolf, LC's def his partner
It's probably just TSP and Nanook. I already claimed fucking jail keeper why does mafia have a roleblocker for no reason?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:09 pm Nanook not even trying in this and is going to let the masons fuck this one up.
I'm voting TSP, who you're supposedly fine w/ lynching as well, so what exactly is the fuck up?
You literally just said it's me and TSP. What has Nanook done to be removed from the pairing? Existing?

What have you done that's towny lately? This is just a bunch of rage when you're not even my chop this RD

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:51 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:12 am Oh my God, so town, how does he do it?:
Lime Coke

Townread:
Falcon - Despite how I felt about him in the early going, I think him widely suspecting and asking questions towards everyone in the game is probably town indicative of Falcon. Even if it's questioning EVERYTHING and at points is pingy as hell, that's just how he is as town.

NotAnAxehole - More of a vibe read but probably in townrange.
Spoiler: show
Granted I don't know what his scumrange is, still decently confident he's town
.

Townlean:
Dragon - I think his assessments are fine? Can see him misreading Falcon if both are town because of playstyle, and as I've said Falcon can just naturally come off as scummy when he's town with his scumhunting style. His read on me looked fine. Decent look so far.
Spoiler: show
Still, fuck them dragons.

Scumleaning:
Gavial - His 2 "catch-up" posts remind me of Baby Mafia where he was mafia, and it was mostly just responding to fluff to have a convo about something and just pinging people for pictures.

DrWilgy - When he was scum during Coffia he was way more aggressive than when I've seen him as town. This game feels relatively the same in terms of just him hard scumreading two players instantly, one of them being me for an intro post that means jackshit.

The rest would be...

Nanook
Sprityo
Dolby
TSP
Sig

These all have content that I can't garner anything on in terms of a read. However if I'm correct on my 2 scumleans it might not be as much of an issue? Would be a nice change for once.

And then FingerSplints and G-Man both have only posted 1 time.
Interesting. He's 100% right on his TR's, and 100% wrong on his scum reads.

All of his nulls are either Town, or current POE
That's called "Having good reads" it wasn't that hard to towncore those people.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:57 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:42 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:21 pm Tsp is always wolfy to me
TSP probably spewed town.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:26 pm For the record I hate these kind of comments regarding “who is online”

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:30 am It’s 6:30 am and fingersplints is online browsing the thread, will you be finally making an appearance fingersplints?
That with subsequent vote on me don’t really sit great with me right now, but not sure if it’s enough to warrant a vote yet.
No idea what to think of this one tbh. Anyone have an idea?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:44 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:10 pm Okay so

BradLand
Wilgy
Sig
Dragon
Falcon
G-Man

That's six town right there.
So with Sig dead-

BradLand
Wilgy
Dragon
Falcon
G-Man
TSP

Still 6 person town core.
If TSP is a wolf, LC's def his partner
It's probably just TSP and Nanook. I already claimed fucking jail keeper why does mafia have a roleblocker for no reason?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:09 pm Nanook not even trying in this and is going to let the masons fuck this one up.

I'm voting TSP, who you're supposedly fine w/ lynching as well, so what exactly is the fuck up?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:09 pm Nanook not even trying in this and is going to let the masons fuck this one up.

Did you know Nook claimed JK as well?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:42 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:21 pm Tsp is always wolfy to me
TSP probably spewed town.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:26 pm For the record I hate these kind of comments regarding “who is online”

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:30 am It’s 6:30 am and fingersplints is online browsing the thread, will you be finally making an appearance fingersplints?
That with subsequent vote on me don’t really sit great with me right now, but not sure if it’s enough to warrant a vote yet.
No idea what to think of this one tbh. Anyone have an idea?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:44 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:10 pm Okay so

BradLand
Wilgy
Sig
Dragon
Falcon
G-Man

That's six town right there.
So with Sig dead-

BradLand
Wilgy
Dragon
Falcon
G-Man
TSP

Still 6 person town core.

If TSP is a wolf, LC's def his partner

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:12 am Oh my God, so town, how does he do it?:
Lime Coke

Townread:
Falcon - Despite how I felt about him in the early going, I think him widely suspecting and asking questions towards everyone in the game is probably town indicative of Falcon. Even if it's questioning EVERYTHING and at points is pingy as hell, that's just how he is as town.

NotAnAxehole - More of a vibe read but probably in townrange.
Spoiler: show
Granted I don't know what his scumrange is, still decently confident he's town
.

Townlean:
Dragon - I think his assessments are fine? Can see him misreading Falcon if both are town because of playstyle, and as I've said Falcon can just naturally come off as scummy when he's town with his scumhunting style. His read on me looked fine. Decent look so far.
Spoiler: show
Still, fuck them dragons.

Scumleaning:
Gavial - His 2 "catch-up" posts remind me of Baby Mafia where he was mafia, and it was mostly just responding to fluff to have a convo about something and just pinging people for pictures.

DrWilgy - When he was scum during Coffia he was way more aggressive than when I've seen him as town. This game feels relatively the same in terms of just him hard scumreading two players instantly, one of them being me for an intro post that means jackshit.

The rest would be...

Nanook
Sprityo
Dolby
TSP
Sig

These all have content that I can't garner anything on in terms of a read. However if I'm correct on my 2 scumleans it might not be as much of an issue? Would be a nice change for once.

And then FingerSplints and G-Man both have only posted 1 time.

Interesting. He's 100% right on his TR's, and 100% wrong on his scum reads.

All of his nulls are either Town, or current POE

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:56 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:55 pm Hard claiming jailkeeper. My action only works on town. I was on Dragon last night.
So Nook is scum then?
Yea.

Tell us about who you've used your action on plz

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:55 pm Hard claiming jailkeeper. My action only works on town. I was on Dragon last night.

So Nook is scum then?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:44 pm I’m a role cop, Nanook’s a goon

Tell us more about who you've used your role on plz

Cuz I'll be honest, I'm not really buying it

It's either TSP/LC, or Nook/Gman.

Leaning towards TSP/LC

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:16 pm Is anyone else sitting on PRs? Cuz now it's time to claim.

yeah, TSP has something...he said a 'red check' earlier, then a NVM....he's waiting for the Doc claim, which we can assume is Nook

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME tell us a bit about your role, who you've used it on plz

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:13 pm Attn I have a red check I think but I’m waiting for someone to claim doctor

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:13 pm I don’t have a red check pay me no mind

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:14 pm If no one claims doctor night result probably clears a mason

Do tell

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:07 pm Useful result for the baddies. I wouldn’t be surprised if they abstained from the kill to fake us out. The POE remains three, though this result could be manufactured to make those in the POE turn on those outside of it.

A mischop still loses us the game at this point.

My POE remains Lime Coke, Nanook, and Tony. The townie among those three knows the path to victory. Please help sell it to us.

TSP is Maf.

Tho Gman & Nook make sense as a team

I'd really like to see TSP's flip

I have concerns over TSP

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:22 am Should I vote Sprityo for solidarity

Who would you vote for if you wanted to be a dissident?

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:23 pm [VOTE: Nook] aubergine
what's up with the change of mind?

I'm feelin' sassy

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:49 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:39 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:30 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:57 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:52 pm
As such, I can't eliminate from my mind that DDL and Falcon could be running a gambit as the last two remaining mafia. This makes winning the game much harder.
god you and me both
Yeah, but I claimed backup mason before NAA flipped.

How do I do that as Maf?

Also, I never fake claim. Ever
Understandable move for a baddie to make an early claim like that because it 1) allows for a teammate to glom on and use it as a screen later via mason misdirection, and 2) the backup mason status is hard for anyone to refute unless a primary mason (or in this case the mason-enabling role) actually knows the identities of the backups. It's a claim that sticks your neck out there with minimal likelihood that it can be fully contradicted.
It's an insane claim for mafia to make without knowing that there's only one mason lol, cause if there were two masons then they'd be outed after the first one dies.

Pretty much.

And while I may be crazy, I'm not insane

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:57 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:52 pm
As such, I can't eliminate from my mind that DDL and Falcon could be running a gambit as the last two remaining mafia. This makes winning the game much harder.
god you and me both

Yeah, but I claimed backup mason before NAA flipped.

How do I do that as Maf?

Also, I never fake claim. Ever

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:43 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:36 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:53 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:44 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:14 pm Unsure of my direction after some ISO work. There are seven of us left. Two of us are mafia. I know that I am town. That leaves two mafia among the six of you. All I need is a POE of three and we win. If the backup mason duo of DDL and Falcon is legit, then it reduces my POE to four. This would mean I just need to identify one more town role and we will be on the path to victory.

@Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca: explain to me (preferably one at a time) how you know your role to work.
The theory:

There may or may not be one or more masons in the game.

If a mason dies and I'm still alive, I become a mason. If there are any other masons in the game when that happens, I join them in BTSC and get mod confirmation of their innocence. If any other backup masons exist, they also join the same BTSC.

The practice:

Me and falcon are backup masons. NAA was a mason. So his death triggered us both being added to the BTSC chat that NAA originally belonged to.

Normal games may only have townie masons, so I'm 100% sure falcon is town.
Under your premise, NAA (the known mason) did not have a BTSC partner with him in the chat?
He didn't. He could have had, the rules allow for it. But Urist only made one regular mason role.

Meaning town got super lucky since mafia's first NK was aimed at a role that needed to die to become useful.
Until NAA died, did you know that either NAA or Falcon was a fellow mason?

@falcon45ca- until NAA died, did you know that either NAA or DDL was a fellow mason?

No clue.

Found it damn hilarious that NAA was a solo Mason tho

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:29 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:14 pm Unsure of my direction after some ISO work. There are seven of us left. Two of us are mafia. I know that I am town. That leaves two mafia among the six of you. All I need is a POE of three and we win. If the backup mason duo of DDL and Falcon is legit, then it reduces my POE to four. This would mean I just need to identify one more town role and we will be on the path to victory.

@Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca: explain to me (preferably one at a time) how you know your role to work.
Sure.

I was told I was backup mason. After NAA died, I was put into a BTSC w/ DDL, the same one NAA had before they died. He talked to himself a little, and then DDL & I joined and have been chatting since

Under this premise, you are also suggesting that NAA did not have a BTSC partner in his mason chat prior to death?

He did not

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:11 pm and also that I'm not 100 percent on trusting the mason claim but whatever I'm basically 100 percent on it

Why Nook over sprityo?

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:14 pm Unsure of my direction after some ISO work. There are seven of us left. Two of us are mafia. I know that I am town. That leaves two mafia among the six of you. All I need is a POE of three and we win. If the backup mason duo of DDL and Falcon is legit, then it reduces my POE to four. This would mean I just need to identify one more town role and we will be on the path to victory.

@Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca: explain to me (preferably one at a time) how you know your role to work.

Sure.

I was told I was backup mason. After NAA died, I was put into a BTSC w/ DDL, the same one NAA had before they died. He talked to himself a little, and then DDL & I joined and have been chatting since

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:24 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:14 pm ok teams

nanook/gman
nanook/LC (can afford to clear gman)
ddl/falcon
LC/gman
LC/sprit
sprit/gman

and that's it?
any of these seem not plausible?
i mean that's from your perspective, but yes those are pairs of people that are not masons

What do you think of TSPs perspective?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:54 pm Going thru fingers ISO, and it looks like she really only gives alignment opinions on 3 players: LC Town, TSP always wolfy, and sus of sprityo but doesn't feel comfortable to vote

Fixed

Fuckin mobile

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