The Syndicate

it was my first scum game doe

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:04 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:00 pm also, c4, you replied to something earlier affirming spfs meta read on me
can you explain the meta you have on me a little?
My experience with you was one scum game where you were pure af but also had an absurd amount of agenda, and one town game where you had good reads. Apparently that was your first scum game so it might not hold as well anymore, but it seemed like an accurate meta read.

arhbjursfgy yeah I remember pushing you and holy flare that game hard and neither of you thought I was scum for it

maybe it'll be helpful to why you think that's towny for me or other things

also, c4, you replied to something earlier affirming spfs meta read on me

can you explain the meta you have on me a little?

I found it a little weird of all my posts you picked that one to explain your town read on me

I'm still trying to figure out if it's wolfy or towny to do that

rej not the

yeah the/chop are really scummy lol

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:43 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:40 amtsp town lean
have not seen anything yet that makes me retract my scumread of him early because he was jumping all over the place without much thoughtfulness in the way he does when he's scum trying to mimic his twitchy town style (see mysterious universe)

didn't really read day zero posts but I'll iso him tomorrow and see

tsp town lean

ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:17 am Hey Dom!
Your signature is too far!
Make it skinny!

ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:17 amFat*

I think ChopChop coming into thread only to post this then leave was a bad look

I'm pretty happy rn cause sloonei is a really good town and I feel like we've had a very similar approach to this game

bit of a break from that*

btw @staypositivefriend my motivation for posting the thing about wishing I could just know your alignment is uh

I'm having fun parsing through and questioning everything in thread

but it's exhausting

so knowing your alignment as a little bit of a bit from that would be cool

btw, my particular concern right now is that scum!jess might think I'd take it as a TMI read if she town reads me too early, when she hasn't typically town read me so early before

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:41 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa
can you explain this a bit more
my understanding is that your scum game is fairly rigid and focused on asserting specific agendas/narratives within the thread - i haven't felt at all like you've been trying to reinforce any specific narratives with your approach in this game. you made a post defending me and then immediately made a post pointing out something about me that you find suspicious. you came into the game w/a slightly aggressive push on sloonei, and then your tone toward him subtly softened after you had an exchange. you've been pushy about getting people to acknowledge your long con read, but in a way that feels more like it stems from the frustration of being unheard and not because you want long con to perceived in a specific way

it just feels agenda-free, and i usually take that as a good sign for you. this post made me re-skim your iso, and i will say that viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736533#p736533 made me a little nervous lol - made me wonder if that post was a roundabout way of trying to pocket me, by playing up your concern about me
can I ask what differences between Sloonei and myself causes the difference in confidence between a town lean and a town read?
i feel that i have a stronger baseline for how sloonei approaches the game as wolf vs town (since i played in 2 champs games with him and then wolfed in one game with him), whereas my read on you is partially predicated on meta that is mainly guesswork

what did you use to form the basis of that guesswork?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa
can you explain this a bit more
my understanding is that your scum game is fairly rigid and focused on asserting specific agendas/narratives within the thread - i haven't felt at all like you've been trying to reinforce any specific narratives with your approach in this game. you made a post defending me and then immediately made a post pointing out something about me that you find suspicious. you came into the game w/a slightly aggressive push on sloonei, and then your tone toward him subtly softened after you had an exchange. you've been pushy about getting people to acknowledge your long con read, but in a way that feels more like it stems from the frustration of being unheard and not because you want long con to perceived in a specific way

it just feels agenda-free, and i usually take that as a good sign for you. this post made me re-skim your iso, and i will say that viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736533#p736533 made me a little nervous lol - made me wonder if that post was a roundabout way of trying to pocket me, by playing up your concern about me

can I ask what differences between Sloonei and myself causes the difference in confidence between a town lean and a town read?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 am i got the reactions that i wanted. it felt a little mean to continue hiding my reads when my refusal to out them had become a focal point of conversation, and when it was directly annoying someone that i had started townreading from it (foresight)

are you wolf that's piggybacking off of sloonei's argument

this one? It's kinda meh, but I don't really scum read it

btw, can you say why you asked me?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:28 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 am i've been a little defensive/cagey about it in the last page or so because i've felt that i've been answering the exact same questions for the last 7 pages. it's a point that feels so nitpicky and semantic to me, so for it to be a heavy focus for multiple people is a little bit grating, especially since i tend to get overly focused on the pressure on me in the early game (which tends to make the situation worse, lol)

i asked you that question because your progression toward me rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. you came into the thread with a piggyback of a suspicion that sloonei had already outed - but then you misunderstood the reasons for his suspicion, and then still doubled down even when you got corrected. when i paired that with the fact that i felt i had already gone into detail about that progression already, it made me concerned that your scumhunting was coming from a shallow place. it wasn't an actual scumread though - moreso just me getting pinged in the moment and wanting to see how you reacted to shade
by the way, Jess (spf) being sort of destabilized in a sense from the game because of getting pressured as town is a real thing. She's mentioned it as town a ~couple times before, so definitely could do it again as mafia to sort of level her play/say a "towny" thing ig, but the fact she's not under any, kinda, *real* threat here makes me feel like it's not just an excuse/attempt to get pressure off herself, but a real statement

Unsure how confident I am on this
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this.
idk how to explain it succinctly

basically; the fact Jess is explaining herself in the way she is, makes me feel like her emotions are genuine, rather than an attempt to get pressure off herself

Mostly because she's not really under enough pressure for me to believe that scum!Jess would need to give what amounts to AtE to get that pressure off her, and rather it feels like town!Jess expressing how she's actually feeling
You seem to know spf better than I do.
What do you think of her accusation of me?

well, don't take this as me having a god read on her, but we are dating

I'm not sure, let me re-read it

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:28 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 am i've been a little defensive/cagey about it in the last page or so because i've felt that i've been answering the exact same questions for the last 7 pages. it's a point that feels so nitpicky and semantic to me, so for it to be a heavy focus for multiple people is a little bit grating, especially since i tend to get overly focused on the pressure on me in the early game (which tends to make the situation worse, lol)

i asked you that question because your progression toward me rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. you came into the thread with a piggyback of a suspicion that sloonei had already outed - but then you misunderstood the reasons for his suspicion, and then still doubled down even when you got corrected. when i paired that with the fact that i felt i had already gone into detail about that progression already, it made me concerned that your scumhunting was coming from a shallow place. it wasn't an actual scumread though - moreso just me getting pinged in the moment and wanting to see how you reacted to shade
by the way, Jess (spf) being sort of destabilized in a sense from the game because of getting pressured as town is a real thing. She's mentioned it as town a ~couple times before, so definitely could do it again as mafia to sort of level her play/say a "towny" thing ig, but the fact she's not under any, kinda, *real* threat here makes me feel like it's not just an excuse/attempt to get pressure off herself, but a real statement

Unsure how confident I am on this
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this.

idk how to explain it succinctly

basically; the fact Jess is explaining herself in the way she is, makes me feel like her emotions are genuine, rather than an attempt to get pressure off herself

Mostly because she's not really under enough pressure for me to believe that scum!Jess would need to give what amounts to AtE to get that pressure off her, and rather it feels like town!Jess expressing how she's actually feeling

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 am i've been a little defensive/cagey about it in the last page or so because i've felt that i've been answering the exact same questions for the last 7 pages. it's a point that feels so nitpicky and semantic to me, so for it to be a heavy focus for multiple people is a little bit grating, especially since i tend to get overly focused on the pressure on me in the early game (which tends to make the situation worse, lol)

i asked you that question because your progression toward me rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. you came into the thread with a piggyback of a suspicion that sloonei had already outed - but then you misunderstood the reasons for his suspicion, and then still doubled down even when you got corrected. when i paired that with the fact that i felt i had already gone into detail about that progression already, it made me concerned that your scumhunting was coming from a shallow place. it wasn't an actual scumread though - moreso just me getting pinged in the moment and wanting to see how you reacted to shade

by the way, Jess (spf) being sort of destabilized in a sense from the game because of getting pressured as town is a real thing. She's mentioned it as town a ~couple times before, so definitely could do it again as mafia to sort of level her play/say a "towny" thing ig, but the fact she's not under any, kinda, *real* threat here makes me feel like it's not just an excuse/attempt to get pressure off herself, but a real statement

Unsure how confident I am on this

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

can you explain this a bit more

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:44 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:47 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:09 pm im gay
You are my friend :3
??? At Dom's focus of me saying a positive thing about him when he did the same thing for the same reason here

@Dom does the fact you did similar things to my "buddying" change your mind about it at all? I saw you make friendly comments towards both myself and spf for saying this so I figured I'd return it

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:25 pm I’m the only civilian in this game. Y’all can stop hiding.
Fuck
[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

little bit of a weird meme but I don't think it was a response to pressure really

That being said he has a few off things in his ISO. Mostly, I disagree his response to SPF was towny. It felt overly emotional in a performative way, similar feeling I've gotten from a couple of his other posts. I've played with c4 a couple times but tbh never paid particular attention to him (lol at this because I do remember the most previous game he said people don't pay him much attention), so I'll probably read those some time to see if he's normally overly emotive but I don't remember him being so day 1?

Also didn't like the way he responded to my question of "if you care about thread discussion so much why didn't you ask me about my read;" he said it was obvious and he didn't need to question me about it, then said he thought the read I was talking about was on Falcon not KZA and to give him a sec, then never actually talked about it again

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:05 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:01 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:00 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:58 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:56 am I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc
what is vault city and why is LC that
Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him
lol I see

You're that confident on c4?
He was clearly incredibly anxious under the slightest bit of pressure, selfvoted and then quickly changed it to another "joke" vote, and is just saying generally silly maf-indicative things like "u accuse me but ur not voting me!!!1!"

I didn't even realize he self voted lol

lemme ISO him and see that

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:05 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:04 am Seems people don't realize why LC acting serious is weird and I'm kinda annoyed no one cares to wonder *why* I actually found it weird

He is, as has been pointed out, basically never serious, and especially not, from what I've seen, at SoD1

don't think he's certainly scum for him, but the stark playstyle change to his town games I've seen, makes him decently >rand scum imo
There is nothing that LC never is.

it's the impression I've gotten from playing 3 town games with him

Could be wrong but I don't think my interpretation is generally inaccurate

Seems people don't realize why LC acting serious is weird and I'm kinda annoyed no one cares to wonder *why* I actually found it weird

He is, as has been pointed out, basically never serious, and especially not, from what I've seen, at SoD1

don't think he's certainly scum for him, but the stark playstyle change to his town games I've seen, makes him decently >rand scum imo

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:00 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:58 am
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:56 am I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc
what is vault city and why is LC that
Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him

lol I see

You're that confident on c4?

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:56 am I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

what is vault city and why is LC that

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:47 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:09 pm im gay
You are my friend :3

??? At Dom's focus of me saying a positive thing about him when he did the same thing for the same reason here

claiming mason with the mayor of gaytown person

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:19 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:17 pm I wish I was a cop so I could just know Jess's alignment so I can just be her buddy all game assuming she's town I don't want jess to be mafia I don't want to have to figure this out
i am mafia, but buddy anyway and let me take you to endgame

if you told me this in private I unironically would let you end game just to keep you around and it would make me not worried

not me realizing people are gonna read that post as lamist while it's sending

I wish I was a cop so I could just know Jess's alignment so I can just be her buddy all game assuming she's town I don't want jess to be mafia I don't want to have to figure this out

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:53 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:51 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:46 pm

nah sadly, it was in the ballpark, but it wasn't The Thing

i actually do think his concerns are towny though
Has anyone revealed themself to be a mafier yet?
not particularly - i feel that finding the scum in a 26 player list on d1 is like finding a needle in a haystack, but finding the town is a much more achievable and realistic goal

ive primarily focused on collecting townreads and then working backwards from there to get scumreads
Who are the town reads?
you, foresight, long con

other names (tonystarkprime, esooa) pending
I can never get a real town read Q-Q
you're like, suspiciously towny. i'm weirded out by how quickly i townread you lmao

PLEASEE

well I guess c4 has one on me but I've been ignoring it cause I'll be heavily biased to town read him back for it ashshwnwksk

I can't win

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:51 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:46 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:41 pm @staypositivefriend Sloon said the thing. Was it the right thing?
nah sadly, it was in the ballpark, but it wasn't The Thing

i actually do think his concerns are towny though
Has anyone revealed themself to be a mafier yet?
not particularly - i feel that finding the scum in a 26 player list on d1 is like finding a needle in a haystack, but finding the town is a much more achievable and realistic goal

ive primarily focused on collecting townreads and then working backwards from there to get scumreads
Who are the town reads?
you, foresight, long con

other names (tonystarkprime, esooa) pending

I can never get a real town read Q-Q

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:33 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:28 pm what's your read on me?
Unsure. I feel like your reasons for being wary of me make sense from a civilian perspective, but your responses to my questions have felt like you are trying not to extend yourself too much, playing it a little hostile rather than just answering the questions I am asking. But sometimes my questions just do that to people, so I'm not going to commit to a read on that just yet.
I've tried answering the best I could. Tbh I'm kinda hostile as a default which isn't good, so I've been trying to not be that. You asking me why I decided to participate in a conversation you prompted felt really *icky* to me so I probably was more hostile there but I was actively trying not to be if it helps lol
I get under people's skin when I do this routine and I think the expectation is that I am trying to be more difficult/interrogative than I actually, so yeah, it is understandable to have those feelings.

I appreciate you putting up with me and your more recent answers have been reassuring. My goal with these sort of questions is to reach a place of better mutual understanding, and I feel like that's happened. At least it has on my end.

it's helped a bit

and yeah I know they're for mutual understanding and that's the best way to do things imo, which is why I've been trying to be less sorta

aggressive and more discussion focused

so I don't mind it at all

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:34 pm Epi's posts are not the least bit difficult for me to read on mobile.

we probably don't have the same phone lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:33 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:28 pm what's your read on me?
Unsure. I feel like your reasons for being wary of me make sense from a civilian perspective, but your responses to my questions have felt like you are trying not to extend yourself too much, playing it a little hostile rather than just answering the questions I am asking. But sometimes my questions just do that to people, so I'm not going to commit to a read on that just yet.

I've tried answering the best I could. Tbh I'm kinda hostile as a default which isn't good, so I've been trying to not be that. You asking me why I decided to participate in a conversation you prompted felt really *icky* to me so I probably was more hostile there but I was actively trying not to be if it helps lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:30 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:28 pm
I'm not reading any of these
Why not?

I'm on mobile and it's too small to read without going through the trouble of making it bigger which meh

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:23 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:14 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:12 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that

past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously
I meant your own reads, or reads in general.

When you say "for me" do you mean the reads that I have stated? Why? What is your perception of me? I think this is our first game together, or maybe our second.
need to do stuff for a few minutes so a quick response then will answer more later

I meant I treat my current read on you as not very serious and likely to change pending what you do later
Isn't that true of all reads?

maybe? Not all, but I said that as in, "it's likely to change;" or, I wouldn't be surprised if it changed, because my read as of right now isn't very strong

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:28 pm

I'm not reading any of these

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:15 pm need to do stuff for a few minutes so a quick response then will answer more later

I meant I treat my current read on you as not very serious and likely to change pending what you do later
Noted.

The reason I asked is that you seemed to be assigning more weight to my Long Con and spf reads than I am myself. I believe in the reads I have expressed in them so far, but I do not consider either of them to be even remotely close to solid. They are my initial impressions on the game.

There is not much more to the LC read than what I have said: I thought his attitude when he joked about being masons with me looked like a happy and carefree LC. The whole "claiming masons is easy" thing is not a line I'd apply to LC in particular: he's an old school Syndicat. The trend of claiming masons on Day 1 is a strange new custom we're not used to here. So I don't look at it as a routine thing for him to do. I just thought the post suggested he was coming at the thread from a place of ease, not straining to integrate himself. A vague impression, but an impression nonetheless.

I thought his response to the suspicion was snarky but laidback. I didn't mind. Scum LC doesn't get rattled by early Day 1 pressure.

if that's why then okay; that makes more sense

I figured you were saying it was towny because of something along the lines of masons are a town only role.

I still think his response was bad. It doesn't have to do with being rattled, it has to do with what was imo an unnatural change in behavior when I pointed it out

as for how seriously I'm treating your reads; I don't expect you to strongly town read LC, but I do expect your (less serious) town read to have valid reasoning, which I didn't see before

what's your read on me?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:14 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:12 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that

past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously
I meant your own reads, or reads in general.

When you say "for me" do you mean the reads that I have stated? Why? What is your perception of me? I think this is our first game together, or maybe our second.

need to do stuff for a few minutes so a quick response then will answer more later

I meant I treat my current read on you as not very serious and likely to change pending what you do later

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:12 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that

past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously

unless you mean how seriously I treat your reads

I think they're valid to criticize and base reads off of

for how much weight I give that refer to my last post lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:12 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that

past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?

depends on the player. For you, not very seriously

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:08 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:04 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"

I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be

but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
the fact you literally asked for it
I am not criticizing you for engaging in discussion. I am asking what is motivating you. You have taken a stance that is distinctly defensive of SPF/critical of me. Why?
my motivation is the fact I wanna post in thread cause I like talking about mafia

you asked for discussion about your read, I disagreed with the read. I gave my reasons as to why
How do you read me right now?

your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that

past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:04 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"

I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be

but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
the fact you literally asked for it
I am not criticizing you for engaging in discussion. I am asking what is motivating you. You have taken a stance that is distinctly defensive of SPF/critical of me. Why?

my motivation is the fact I wanna post in thread cause I like talking about mafia

you asked for discussion about your read, I disagreed with the read. I gave my reasons as to why

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"

I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be

but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
I have a theory: she doesn't like that I correctly called her out as scum, and is motivated to get discussion moving elsewhere, with her as the towny discussion motivator.

you're right I had an interest in not talking about your read. Mostly because it was bad and annoying me

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"

I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be

but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?

the fact you literally asked for it

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