The Syndicate

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:08 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:53 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:58 pm I'm still waiting for Santy to use their own words to explain why I'm a a wolf who kills nanook
Santy literally said the reasons why already, but HK kept retreading during EoD that Santy has to appease specifically him with some random bullshit that doesn't matter. The reason is his reason whether he refers back to mine or says it himself. And this was during a time basically everyone else was realizing Santy was town because his posting was OBVIOUSLY towny. HK didn't care, he was just finding bullshit to try and keep him as the kill
santy goes over without me. It was 4-3 Santy-HK with me on risiinq until 30 minutes or so to EOD. Then I voted santy making it 5-3 AND NOBODY FUCKING CARED
Nobody said "hey that's wolfy", nobody said "hey, lets pivot to HK" which at least would have made sense.

You, santy, and risiinq voted me, everyone else voted Santy. How is it my fault Santy went over? Should I have stayed on risiinq? Would that have made more sense?

Also, in what universe do I kill another HK voter? You're not playing to the skill level I know you're capable of playing, what gives?

I'm not gonna argue it with you

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:09 pm @Esooa

I'm going to bed. Carry the sword on this...

my desire to play mafia isn't that much rn lol I'm prob gonna go for a bit too

I'll try to get to ISO's and stuff tomorrow or maybe later if I'm up to it

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:06 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:01 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:00 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:00 pm I'm not clear. But I'm also not wrong on HK being to die town or scum.
You're not clear but like. Idk if ur wolfing take ur win
how'd you get there from your posting like 10 minutes ago lol
Fishing for reactions as stated

alr

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:00 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:00 pm I'm not clear. But I'm also not wrong on HK being to die town or scum.
You're not clear but like. Idk if ur wolfing take ur win

how'd you get there from your posting like 10 minutes ago lol

Neon is clear because of her posts she's the only person rn I'd say I'm not willing to reevaluate

Maybe I'll need to look at Sabi more tbh I've basically not been reading their posts because I don't like 90% of them lmao no offense

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:58 pm I'm still waiting for Santy to use their own words to explain why I'm a a wolf who kills nanook

Santy literally said the reasons why already, but HK kept retreading during EoD that Santy has to appease specifically him with some random bullshit that doesn't matter. The reason is his reason whether he refers back to mine or says it himself. And this was during a time basically everyone else was realizing Santy was town because his posting was OBVIOUSLY towny. HK didn't care, he was just finding bullshit to try and keep him as the kill

Neon was extremely towny yesterday even if wrong, taking the initiative and her reasons were towny too. HK hid behind Neon's push and was just trying to pull gotcha's on everyone in the game while not doing any solving but apparently that's not who we're supposed to be killing today

I was thinking maybe TSP/HK but I really don't like Lily's posts today

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:44 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:43 pm @Sabiplz vote hk
Why

Because he is a wolf? I've already said why relating to dead townies if you care about that. And so did Santy. And so did Risiinq. And so did Nanook. Pls just don't do some random dumb vote today and tomorrow

if you were so worried about dying maybe don't make up awful reasons to push Risiinq who was the easiest town to kill at that SoD then switch them to even worse reasons to push Santy once Neon changed that

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:43 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:13 am NONE OF THIS IS SUPPORTED BY ANYTHING I LOOKED FOR BECAUSE I LOOKED FOR NOTHING

current votes:

Santy: neon, porscha, sabi, lily
HK: santy, esooa, risiing
risiinq: HK

does it make MORE sense if two wolves are on me saying "hk is wolf and even if not he has to die" or does it make LESS sense?

I think the longer the game goes the more I can't be a wolf, if I don't go over here today and Santy is town I expect the dialog tomorrow to be "HK was protected, kill him then kill on the santy wagon" but like I've shown today that I'm not someone worth protecting. I haven't participated, haven't solved, haven't done much of anything at all.

Partially b/c I'm lazy and bad, partially because I scored a PS5, and partially because it stops the narrative of "HK was protected" because again, haven't done shit to protect, there's no reason. The wolf team, if I am a wolf, should have been busing me from D2 onward, even D1 after my outburst.

which would indicate to me that either Santy is a hit OR Santy is the "protect risiinq" wagon.

Now if Santy is NOT a hit I think it's more likely that risiinq IS a hit AND ALSO that there's a wolf on the Santy wagon, of which Sabi makes the least sense (watch it be sabi), then Porscha, then probs a tossup between neon/lily, neither of which I really have a read on.

If Santy IS a hit I'm torn. On the one hand having a wolf there makes sense, and it might be Neon then. But having a wolf be off wagon is also fine here as the "off wagon" is the policy chop that's been hanging on for days now.

UGH. I don't think you can say anything concrete if Santy is a hit. I think you can if Santy isn't a hit.

If Santy is a hit I do not think there are two wolves on my wagon. Which I said above.

game is hard, mafia is dumb, etc etc
as a reminder, I predicted "HK needs to die today" yesterday AND neon is falling back on "need to resolve D1 wagons"

wow you predicted it, good job, now surely we can't kill you

@Sabiplz vote hk

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:40 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:39 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:38 pm Neon you seem like a wolf getting ahead of yourself. Why is HK a wolf here
how is neon ever a wolf lol
The way she's posting rn is giving me doubts that she's town.

Pushing HK? bruh

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:38 pm Neon you seem like a wolf getting ahead of yourself. Why is HK a wolf here

how is neon ever a wolf lol

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:58 pm I'm still waiting for Santy to use their own words to explain why I'm a a wolf who kills nanook

Kill this

Fuck I just woke up a bit ago and wasn't thinking about it

Wtf bruh I just remembered it's eod

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:10 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:13 am NONE OF THIS IS SUPPORTED BY ANYTHING I LOOKED FOR BECAUSE I LOOKED FOR NOTHING

current votes:

Santy: neon, porscha, sabi, lily
HK: santy, esooa, risiing
risiinq: HK

does it make MORE sense if two wolves are on me saying "hk is wolf and even if not he has to die" or does it make LESS sense?

I think the longer the game goes the more I can't be a wolf, if I don't go over here today and Santy is town I expect the dialog tomorrow to be "HK was protected, kill him then kill on the santy wagon" but like I've shown today that I'm not someone worth protecting. I haven't participated, haven't solved, haven't done much of anything at all.

Partially b/c I'm lazy and bad, partially because I scored a PS5, and partially because it stops the narrative of "HK was protected" because again, haven't done shit to protect, there's no reason. The wolf team, if I am a wolf, should have been busing me from D2 onward, even D1 after my outburst.

which would indicate to me that either Santy is a hit OR Santy is the "protect risiinq" wagon.

Now if Santy is NOT a hit I think it's more likely that risiinq IS a hit AND ALSO that there's a wolf on the Santy wagon, of which Sabi makes the least sense (watch it be sabi), then Porscha, then probs a tossup between neon/lily, neither of which I really have a read on.

If Santy IS a hit I'm torn. On the one hand having a wolf there makes sense, and it might be Neon then. But having a wolf be off wagon is also fine here as the "off wagon" is the policy chop that's been hanging on for days now.

UGH. I don't think you can say anything concrete if Santy is a hit. I think you can if Santy isn't a hit.

If Santy is a hit I do not think there are two wolves on my wagon. Which I said above.

game is hard, mafia is dumb, etc etc
@risiinq- I cant go into detail since Im going to work rn and am late. But the insight here and the fact that them just didnt switch to me rn talk to me about a towny approach being possible here

that post is senseless lmao

The idea that a wolf would be on you, the idea he's getting that Risiinq is a wolf to begin with for the reasons he's given, laden assumption of 1 in Santy/Risiinq, him saying he should have been bussed if a wolf when the flipped wolf literally was pushing him all day 2, that's just from my glance of it because it was not at all convincing to me

risiinq- wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:21 am esooa also disappeared, apparently

dont blame her though. its just. im also not sure about me townreading her rn.

it's been a very hesitant thing and i'm going to be pretty upset if i backtracked on it and it cost

I've been reading posts like once every 8 hours I just literally do not care, HK should be dying and the entire day is for some reason spent on nothing but Santy

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:49 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:47 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:43 am Honestly I am so far out of my wolf range this game. I have 1 game experience wolfing and I sucked. You can check my wolf game and compare it to this one like snow did earlier in this game and see for yourself. I would be frozen and crying in wolf chat lol
You know... you say this but that means you are aware of it and able to change it so that you can say this no?

WIFOM is very WIFOM-y

Also like Mac and probably Santy too (dunno Santy myself) are probably invaluable resources to help you improve your woof game. Mac helped me
Yeah. I'd appreciate if I randed a good wolf team so I could learn.

wolf with me

also after reading more Porscha posts I can agree to her being town tbh don't really think she's actually a wolf

well @ snow if yo wanna comment on it I forgot you did

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:43 am Honestly I am so far out of my wolf range this game. I have 1 game experience wolfing and I sucked. You can check my wolf game and compare it to this one like snow did earlier in this game and see for yourself. I would be frozen and crying in wolf chat lol

oh I thought you did well in that game

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:41 am tsp's posting when he entered the thread was underwhelming to say the least.

I mean he just subbed in to a 6000 post game I'm p sure as either alignment he's fucked

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:28 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:26 am well regardless of this NK discussion I'm going to take this time to point out how HK did nothing today but vote Risiinq for meh reasons then refuse to give reads on other players and should die for it
yeah we get it the esooa agenda is vote off hk today

yes

well regardless of this NK discussion I'm going to take this time to point out how HK did nothing today but vote Risiinq for meh reasons then refuse to give reads on other players and should die for it

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:17 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:15 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:11 am I think the problem is that especially with the jack flip Nanook should've been the most consensus town in the game outside of Sabi who wolves clearly don't want to kill. The nanook kill just makes sense out of context as well. Like idk would nanook be MLed? Maybe people swing to a SR when HK flips V but idk. Nanook is a good player and I don't see who else dies
Nanook is almost always ML'able IMO unless he like obviously kills a wolf just cause he's easy to say he's a wolf when he doesn't post much/isn't very transparent

definitely more so than Sabi for example, and like I said he wasn't really contributing much to this game that wasn't saying HK was a wolf, if wolves don't care about that why do they care to kill him
I guess but he was generally being consensus townread last day phase and I think we all understood the lack of agenda in his HK push. Feel like every other slot in the game can also be manipulated just as much ig. You're probs right though and we just had 2 wolves caught day 2

lmao was he? I thought he was a wagon

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:14 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:33 pm we killed a wolf then we killed the guy who defended the wolf for no reason and pushed a bunch of other people who were wagons against the wolf

It's literally fine
we killed a wolf and then we killed the guy who was more town than at least 3 other players being talked about in a day with no conversation until the last hour of the day

it's literally not fine

true town has never won a game that 2 townies 1 wolf have died

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:14 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:14 am Do we think we had w/w/w wagons day 2?
mac hk and who was third

lmao that'd be funny if it was

It's not like day ended like that tho Ender died that day and imo wasn't really that wolfy

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:11 am I think the problem is that especially with the jack flip Nanook should've been the most consensus town in the game outside of Sabi who wolves clearly don't want to kill. The nanook kill just makes sense out of context as well. Like idk would nanook be MLed? Maybe people swing to a SR when HK flips V but idk. Nanook is a good player and I don't see who else dies

Nanook is almost always ML'able IMO unless he like obviously kills a wolf just cause he's easy to say he's a wolf when he doesn't post much/isn't very transparent

definitely more so than Sabi for example, and like I said he wasn't really contributing much to this game that wasn't saying HK was a wolf, if wolves don't care about that why do they care to kill him

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:11 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:10 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:07 am Did you all think nanook wasn't going to die?
figured one of sabi/porscha but didn't think about it much
Well one is Sabi and one is the 3rd wolf

You think Porscha is?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:07 am Did you all think nanook wasn't going to die?

figured one of sabi/porscha but didn't think about it much

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:06 am If I'm being really I think anyone does the nanook NK. Like the problem is I can see nanook being NKed in favor of HK and to bury HK.

If HK is town then Nanook is contributing to killing a town and not doing much of anything else, and then is ML'able himself. I don't see how Nanook is the wolf teams highest priority in that world ever

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:06 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:19 pm i mean objectively i dont think i nk achro there ever so like if we're talking about nks lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:20 pm I never kill Achro
liars, the both of you

I *always* kill achro

I wasn't serious with it just figured I'd join in on the I'd never kill Achro posting

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:05 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:14 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:08 pm i hate this game and im vote parking on hk
serious question:
do you really, really really think I kill Achro AND Nanook in this game?

Achro has seen my wolf game, he found me in ONE post in our champs qualifier. ONE post. It took literally everything I had to keep him off my back on D1 and then I killed him N1.
Nanook has seen my wolf game, was consistently on me all game long, did NOT have the thread pull to actually get me over the line. Why do I kill him and solidify that read?

I keep him alive, keep him impotent, keep him focused on me, not looking for a partner, not allowing others to go through his posts looking for my partners.

It never ever makes sense for me to be a wolf just by NKA
and obviously snow does that nk instead
ok if it isn't hk or snow then who is it? do you think the kills actually point to hk or is it just the best option you have to choose from that you're hoping makes sense?

Yes I think it points to HK and that he's a wolf, idc the rest of it

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:02 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:01 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:17 pm what does nanook nk point us to?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:24 pm nanook NK is worth looking into though and discussing

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:33 pm i am going to vote hk because esooa did
Like the way this is posted felt a little off to me is all. You were wanting to discuss the Nanook NK, which is valid ofc, and I did, I think it means HK is very likely wolf just on it's own. But after I post that, you don't really think HK is a wolf or you agreed with it, or post anything else about the NK to engage, just say you're sheeping
Do you think that "off" is a disengaged/disinterested lily or a wolf lily? The answer is obvious imo

I think it could be wolf, it's at least worth mentioning

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:17 pm what does nanook nk point us to?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:24 pm nanook NK is worth looking into though and discussing

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:33 pm i am going to vote hk because esooa did

Like the way this is posted felt a little off to me is all. You were wanting to discuss the Nanook NK, which is valid ofc, and I did, I think it means HK is very likely wolf just on it's own. But after I post that, you don't really think HK is a wolf or you agreed with it, or post anything else about the NK to engage, just say you're sheeping

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:58 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:57 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:55 am Good post but 1/2 of it is wrong. Still makes me more comfortable abt u
Your post earlier about just voting HK cause I was I was ehh on is part of it. I thought the stuff yesterday about not really caring and wanting anyone dead was alright but today it kinda feels like the same even though we killed a town yesterday

Maybe more of what you're thinking rn would be nice
It's the same as before. Jack/hk/ris had a wolf. Now it's hk/ris. I will vote with consensus cuz I'm none the wiser of which is the wolf.

You don't have any thoughts as to which?

Porscha I feel like has never really cared about much this game and I asked about the HK AtE thing cause I think I remember her caring more about Mac or HK's AtE stuff but kinda dismissed the Risiinq stuff entirely when imo Risiinq's posts last EoD were rly obvious town and I like a lot of it today too so far, I don't really remember exactly though. That's really all I have on my mind about her and I think other people make more sense in the game as wolves but yeah

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:55 am Good post but 1/2 of it is wrong. Still makes me more comfortable abt u

Your post earlier about just voting HK cause I was I was ehh on is part of it. I thought the stuff yesterday about not really caring and wanting anyone dead was alright but today it kinda feels like the same even though we killed a town yesterday

Maybe more of what you're thinking rn would be nice

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:27 am Like okay Mac was the bait when it became obvious he was going over

Santy is power woofing

Lily is going deep

Santy built a vest of kevlar and pockets Riis but is able to keep safe and the focus is still on Riis. Lily has Esooa pocketed.

Santys behavior completely changes when it becomes obvious Mac is gonna flip at some point suddenly Santy is invested building cases pushing those cases very loudly forward. Insisting that the Mac pelt belongs where it does not. Shading me but never actually pushing me forward.

Lily is disengaged but present but one thing I noticed was the complete discrepancy in the treatment of HKs blow up vs Macs afair. Lily has been pretty safe all game.

I was actually thinking exactly the same thing earlier lol, especially the bolded. I don't really think it's both of them because I'm p sure HK is a wolf but one of those two being a wolf with HK makes the most sense for the OW nk1. So yea, don't rly think it's this exactly but rly towny thought from you. What do you think of HK?

probably HK by virtue of being a wolf

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:09 pm Part of me feels like wolves are tmiing me town because like no one hasn't really tinfoil Ed me.

Like who is genuinely tr and who is tmiing me

if literally everyone is town reading you and there are wolves that exist then yes presumably wolves are town reading you

Does anyone remember if Porscha was clearing HK off EoD1 AtE stuff? During EoD or after

wolves need every ML they can get, and nanook is never really someone who's not open for ML imo. I see him pushed late game a lot. I think the only reason he dies is because he's not going to be an easy ML and that's prob because HK is going to flip wolf before wolves think they can/want to get him over. I don't even think this needs like, "is it wifom or not" consideration because if it's wifom then Nanook is just an available ML later and you don't wifom that off the table. That's what I'm thinking rn

if people are gonna go insane like town is going to lose/they need to die that's how we do so

we killed a wolf then we killed the guy who defended the wolf for no reason and pushed a bunch of other people who were wagons against the wolf

It's literally fine

he posted literally okay thoughts once in 3 days, just cause he actually started playing much doesn't mean it was so incredibly towny lol

I don't really think anyone would be saying he was so obvious town if he was alive rn and being like "that kill was so bad he was obvious town" isn't rly helpful to anything

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:28 pm wait, i didn't realize tmr was lylo if we kill me today

i thought we still hand another mishang :?

:/

bruh

it's not

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